@@awkwardashleigh You're about to hit the meat and potatoes of the series. These episodes were primary to give a glimpse into their lives. The next 4 episodes are considered the best of the series by most of the fanbase.
"Damn your inevitable betrayal...". - Wash - Pilot of Serenity 😅 Reavers started out as humans then were altered. Think Texas Chainsaw Massacre. All spacers know Reavers are bad news. Some think they are just a myth...until they run into some. 😮
"What are the Reavers" is one of the main themes of the show. You are meant to be in the dark about them at this point and scared of them. You always need to remember the line from Zoe a couple eps back. "If they take the ship, they'll r*** us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins into their clothing - and if we're very, very lucky, they'll do it in that order."
@@LordVolkov I get that the Reavers are an important part of Joss' universe, and I understand WHY, but personally, I think they were a mistake. They entered a horror show element into what could have otherwise been a satisfactory sci-fi- action-crime/ caper-exploration show. Just my humble opinion.
Alan Tudyk ( Wash) improvised his interrogation response. He went on for several minutes, more explicitly and suggestively, trying to break the other actor. It's in the deleted scenes. Great fun.
Mal is so weirdly puritanical about sex and almost nothing else. Inara seems perfectly comfortable being a companion. Mal really needs to work out his own sexual hang ups internally and stop taking them out on her. This whole storyline was such an early red flag for all the stuff that came out about Joss Whedon later. Don't get me wrong - I still love the show, I just hate Mal's constant unwarranted disrespect and shaming of Inara.
@@LoganBluth Well Mal is religious in the first five minutes of the series, prior to his faith being shattered by losing the war. He initially embraces the crucifix in the pilot episode and later in the same show tells Book that God isn't welcome on his ship [anymore]. I've always been anti-religious myself, so I don't understand the allure of being puritanical in the first place, but I observe that many formerly-religious people are oddly idiosyncratic about what they hold onto and what they don't. In that way, I don't think he's a poorly written character. To your other points, though, I agree -- it does say a lot about Joss, and it does irk me whenever Mal follows in kind.
@@extantsanity Oh, I agree. He's not poorly written, I just hate how Whedon always portrayed Mal and Inara's interactions as flirtatious banter, even when Mal was being massively sexist about Inara's profession. When Mal and Inara are verbally sparing about Mal being a petty criminal and Inara being condescendingly superior, that's all fine, those are both actual faults they each have. However, whenever Mal insults Inara for being a sex worker, it's still depicted as fun, flirty banter, not the unwarranted, puritanical misogyny it actually is.
@@LoganBluth You seriously think someone who treats sex as a financial transaction (with a lot of pseudo -spiritual trappings thrown in for the gullible) gets to climb on a high moral horse over a person who just accurately describes their business so it upsets them? She may pay rent, but it's still his ship. Mal is obviously attracted to Inara, but he knows she's financially independent of him. He doesn't really understand why she's even aboard Serenity, but having her aboard is often useful and he feels beholden to her, which throws him off balance because he obviously HATES being beholden to anybody, except perhaps his crew. To Mal, and most people who THINK, rather than FEEL, it's degrading to have the most intimate thing connecting a man and a woman get reduced to "did your credit check out?". He doesn't like seeing Inara "degrade herself" because he does care for her, but he knows she owes him nothing but the rent on the shuttle, and she can obviously do as she likes. So he just exercises his OWN right to make his disapproval as clear as she makes her statements of independence. As he points out more than once, she's free to leave anytime she likes. And he knows he'll just be left with her absence to add to everything else he's lost. As River "reads" in his mind later: "It doesn't mean a g-d damned thing."
@@yoshienverde My thougt to. The cenobites and reavers do have their similarities. I also see some resemblance between the Yuuzhan Vong from Star Wars Legends and Reavers. Just less civilized. :)
@@raggarbergman I have better nerdier analogies, but those would be very spoilery if somebody read them and checked the sources, so I'll keep them back (there's a certain relatively known niche comic, and a Korean film derived from said comic, that come to mind pretty quick, for example) Jeez, seeing the Yuuzhan Vong mentioned makes me feel old XD
Jayne got into his line of work with no illusions about the risk of getting beaten up, shot at or arrested and dumped in prison. Reavers, though... nobody signs up for reavers.
One danger of River coming out is that of Badger might have recognized her as someone wanted by the Alliance, and possibly turned them in for a reward. But River read Badger like a book and schooled him. :)
Not only did they air out of order, they kept changing when it was scheduled to air, which killed any chance of building a fanbase while the show was running.
I think I remember an interview where Jewel Staite (Kaylee's actress) states she doesn't actually like Strawberries, but because of this show everyone keeps gifting them to her
Everyone falls in love with the Kaylee character. So happy, optimistic, cheerful. Everyone who watches Firefly is automatically loving and protective of Kaylee.
Ashleigh, don't forget this tiny, key bit of dialogue from ep.3.... Jayne: "Reavers ain’t men." Book: "Of course they are. Too long removed from civilization perhaps. But men."
Do you know the origin of the line? Basically, in one of the early scenes, Nathan Fillion split his trousers. After which, the entire cast started calling him 'Captain Tightpants.'
Don't really even blame all of Fox, it was really just the executive in charge of programming, the one who replaced the guy who gave Firefly the green light. She didn't like the show, so she sabotaged it in order to get it canceled quickly.
@@DeathsjesterKMNP they didn't want the show but had to honour an agreement with Joss so they did everything they could to sabotage it and justify canceling it.
34:02 it seems like you missed a key line in that scene. Mal : "I might not show respect to your job, but he didn't respect _you._ That's the difference."
@@sirmoonslosthismind Not exactly. You can love the person and hate their job. Or vice versus, you can respect the position and have nothing but disrespect for the person holding it. You'll sometimes hear people say, "respect the office, not the man" in relation to the President. Mal doesn't like that Inara is a Companion because he's jealous, he doesn't want her being with other men for any reason. Her vocation being respectable or not has nothing to do with it.
@@Falcun21 Friend of the family was a cop in Internal Investigations. He always said "Never disrespect the uniform, but don't hesitate to disrespect the asshole wearing it."
@@sirmoonslosthismind I disagree, simply because people are more than their jobs. Atherton saw Inara only as what her job was. Mal might disrespect her job, but he knows that she is more than her job.
Adam Baldwin, who plays Jayne, is just a fantastically fun actor. He really shines on the show Chuck, which is a big commitment for a reaction, but you should definitely watch it sometime, on camera or not.
I’ve liked Adam since I first saw him in Independence Day. I love his characters, whether he’s playing hero or douchebag 😁 Like Bill Paxton, he went from a Hey, it’s that guy! actor to one of my favorites 😊
Poison Ivy with Michael J. Fox.. Won't say it made me his fan but I remembered his punchable face for decades.. lol.. took this and Chuck for me to actually appreciate him as an actor.
I think Jayne is low key an important character. The fact that Mal believes that he needs to keep a guy like Jayne around informs us on how dangerous their world and occupation are.
Was waiting with anticipation for the reaction of Kaylee's dress. Mark Shepard, "Badger", worked with Summer Glau, "River", on her English cockney accent, which she did an outstanding job.
@@BigDamnHero74 Or perhaps the "scrupulous" alignment from the Palladium RPG's? "Generally good, but willing to bend a bit to get the job done" kind of thing.
@@BigDamnHero74More Chaotic Neutral. He'll do good when it suits him and bad when it suits him. Chaotic Good will not do bad, they'll just do Good or Neutral acts. Mal is just as likely to do a stand-up job as a criminal one, which is the very essence of neutrality.
@@Falcun21 yeah, but Mal does have a sense of morality and 8 times out of 10 will choose to do what’s right even if it puts him out… CN doesn’t really care.
Great reactions. I love the interrogation scene with the crew. It shows their personalities. Shindag is a fun episode. Jewel hated the dress. It was difficult to get in and out of. She couldn't sit down and she needed help to use the restroom. Mark Sheppard helped Summer on getting the accent down.
The issue with how Malcolm treats Inara is explained in this episode, but it's very easy to miss. Right after the 'whore academy' comment, when Inara (and the viewer) is getting mad, he says: "I might not show respect to your job, but he didn't respect *you*. That's the difference. Inara, he doesn't even see you." This also helps explain the tension. Malcolm likes Inara, but he doesn't want a companion. Like most people in the outer planets he grew up on a farm where a wife is a partner. Glad you're enjoying the series!
Atherton's mentality of Companions only being Companions & nothing more is one issue, Mal's issue is the opposite: while he knows that Inara isn't just a Companion, he fails to see that being a Companion is part of who she is. Inara chose & continues to choose being a Companion. If she didn't get some sense of fulfillment from it, she could easily choose a different career (being such an educated woman & all). Disrespecting her choice of career is disrespecting her in the process. As a Companion Inara might not always be able to be a business partner (as farming couples often are), but it wouldn't stop her from being a life partner & Mal usually does his best not to involve Inara in any of their criminal enterprises anyway. I'm not sold on that being the problem. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
"You had this on wrong." "You didn't know, don't let them make you feel bad." Just an FYI...you put a space-suit on wrong...and space will probably kill you for it. So...really Kaylee is trying to make sure he doesn't die next time.
@@Metzwerg74 Couple of 'em. He got to spend time with Kaylee, and Kaylee got to inform him of how not to die in space when he'd be in the suit again a short while later.
You can't "hate" Jayne.......Well, maybe you can, but the scenes where each crew member is being interrogated give you a good little view as to each character's personality. Zoe is very tough and tells the Alliance guy that her personal life is one of his business, then switch over to Wash who is telling him everything about his personal life! Jayne is just sitting there and not saying anything, defiant. Although we know that if he is offered money, he may just talk after all. He's a cool character to have.
"Maybe he decided to take a swim and see how fast his blood would boil out of his ears". In the vacuum of space, your blood begins to boil despite getting colder if you're in deep space (far from a sun). It would cause hemorrhaging at the ears, nose, mouth, and eyes. This show doesn't shy away from the grizzly realities of space, but still manages to throw in some western charm!
The lower the atmospheric pressure the lower the boiling point of any liquid (space having zero pressure), which is why blood/water etc boils away. On the top of Mt Everest the boiling point of water is only 154F, not 212F like at sea level.
@milesbartlett Fun fact! On the top of Mount everest you can't boil an egg! This is because the temperature water boils at that elevation is lower than what you need to denature the egg proteins.
@@billhutchinson6318My dad grew up in sight of the Tetons in Wyoming and said that when his Boy Scout troop would go camping in the higher elevation areas that you could boil an egg all day and it'd never cook, and that was only like 9000-ish feet. I dunno if he ever actually tried it or was just telling a story, but he made it sound like it was something they tried so they could see if it would work or not.
The prevelance of the wildly misleading 'boil' is what bothers me. Boil implies heat, while in space there is no heat and liquid simply evaporates due to lack of pressure.
The sword fight choreographer for Shindig is actor & stuntman Anthony DeLongis. He;s also the guy who taught Harrison Ford how to use a bullwhip in all of the Indiana Jones movies, and the same weapon to Michelle Pfeifer in _Batman Returns_ and Anthony Hopkins in _The Mask of Zorro_ .
Considering how many sexual jokes Ashleigh was making about Kayleigh and Inara, I was thinking her sense of humor was a lot like Jayne's. Of course, that was right before Ashleigh said that she hated Jayne.
The really funny thing with Kaylee and her circle, they are all old guys that are only there to make an appearance, because that's what their standing demands. Usually they are bored to death as they don't fit in with their own 'crowd'. But as in any age where such balls happen, the old guys have their own small circles, be it about cars or, in this case, spaceships. For them Kaylee is someone they can talk and she brings a new perspective as she knows what she is talking about because that's what she lives for. Reavers... let's put it this way without spoiling anything, but spare you some confusion. Biologically, they are human. Which makes them far scarier than most if not all alien possibilities, considering what they do to people as told in the first episode. At least in my opinion. And they made the poor guy watch what they did to everyone else on his ship. To his acquaintances, friends and family.
Heh. Down here on 21st century earth, Kaylee would be the adorable and charming country girl holding court about cars with all the old men in one corner of the same party, with half of them wanting to introduce her to their sons, and the other half thinking she was the son they never had even though they had sons. LOL
You know what? She will have to wait until she gets to it. Why don't you tell her the rest of the plot while you're at it? Nobody cares about your opinion but you. Get over yourself and QUIT POSTING SPOILERS! Dumbass. 🙄
Why don't you tell Ashleigh the rest of the plot of episode 8 while you're at it? I'm sure that will make everyone think you're really smart. DON"T POST SPOILERS!
The people who made this show also made "Titan A.E.", an animated movie set in the future after Earth has been destroyed. It has a lot of the same feel and humor. One of the creators, Ben Edlund, is the guy who created The Tick.
So to explain the Reaver situation; when they say that Reavers "aren't men", it just means that you can't think of them like as people, though they are still technically human. The way it's described is that being stuck in the furthest reaches of space; cold, empty, nothing around; it slowly degrades away at the mind; at any sense of humanity. The people there become more and more feral and primal as being at the edge of nothingness takes over; until it gets to the point that the only thing that drives them is pain. They continue to live only to inflict agony, as it has become the only thing they can comprehend. And when they don't have other people around; that agony instead gets inflicted onto themselves, stapling their own skin together and then tearing it open just so they can do it again; standing around unfiltered radiation that slowly cooks them from the inside out. Thats what it means to become a Reaver; it's to go from a person with thoughts, values, desires, but by experiencing the darkest things in the universe; you transform a creature that is torture incarnate.
This morning, I happened to stumble on an old episode of Steve McQueen's 1950s TV Western 'Wanted: Dead Or Alive'. The weapon McQueen uses in that is called 'The Mare's Leg' (thank you, Timothy Lockard) and it's very famous -- in fact, it's the same weapon that Jayne is holding at 3:30 in this video. Not a similar one: the same one!
I love the idea that the cargo was cattle. Like, driving cattle is such a western cowboy thing, and they’re doing it in space. I mean imagine bringing a herd of cattle between planets? No wonder that other guy was willing to pay under the table for it, shut must be expensive
But cheaper in the long run than tractors that don't make little tractors, and which break down easily and then need spare parts you don't have. Cows don't need spare parts or repairs and they make little cows. Plus the milk and eventually meat, obviously.
Hey Angela, loved your reactions on this show as well! So fun to see folks get introduced to this shiny ‘Verse and by the end, donning on either their brown coats or Jayne’s hat… 😊 This is my favorite show ❤️
Also, the main company in Firefly is Blue Sun, which is an US / Chinese partnership which ruled the Earth before it died. When the character’s speak slang, they are speaking Chinese.
In the first episode Zoe says "The Reavers, will rp us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins into their clothes and if we're very very lucky they'll do it in that order." Reavers are scary, very scary.
I can not even choose a favorite character, they all just really grow on you. I couldn't imagine a show where one of the crew was gone. So glad you're enjoying yourself.
Context explains a great deal. The trick is carefully paying attention. A great many reactors are too concerned with making pithy commentary and so the miss a great deal.
Basically, "Reavers" are the "Boogeyman" of the Firefly universe. (the "'verse") Think evil "Space Zombies". And yeah, at the party EVERY fan of Firefly LOVES that Kaylee went from abused (by the 'mean girls') outsider to forming her own clique! (and being quite popular in it)
I have the compendium for Firefly, it is sooooooo much fun to read the scripts along with watching it. You get all the nuances and you see where they "edit" things out. Also great back story on props, music, actors, characters and my favorite COSTUMES!!! you need to come to a comic con and meet the rest of the "Browncoats".
Kaylee is the heart of the ship! Shindig is such a fun episode, but there are so many fun episodes in the series! This series had no bad main characters, but Kaylee was the highlight!
@@Iymarra well, if you’d like, check out on here Michael Rosenbaum’s podcast “Inside of You”… he just interviewed Mark and he told all about what happened in a very funny and heartfelt way ❤️
And now I'm imagining Jayne getting drunk with Maniac from Wing Commander. (which is one of two Movies That Shall Not Be Named in my house, Matthew Lillard gave a better performance than it deserved.)
@9:40 How vicious, aggressive, and human-less reavers are was already described in the first or 2nd episode Ashleigh, I remember you talking over it and thinking "i don't think you've completely grasped the tone and feeling of what the pilot's wife had said about reavers"
Late 90s, early 2000s had the best sci-fi shows, especially when it comes to space. Babylon 5, Farscape, Battlestar Galactica, Firefly, Space: Above and Beyond. That last one was my jam, and it got canned too, after 1 season, but man I loved it, watching every episode when it aired...
Jewel Staite (Kaylee) is such a darling, and awfully cute too. She's also my favorite character. The show was cancelled after a season so sadly, a lot of questions will remain unanswered but that's why the movie was made a few years later. Even with the missing links it's still a very enjoyable show and yes, do watch it till the end. Nathan Fillion (Mal) later played in a long running crime-mystery tv show (Castle) and in several episodes he makes subtle references to Firefly and in some even has members of the show in guest roles (like Jewel Staite, Gina Torres and Adam Baldwin)
He even dressed up as a space cowboy for Halloween one year, though his daughter slammed him since he'd been that 6 years prior...... He also briefly spoke Chinese in one episode, saying he'd learned it from a TV show he loved.
My favorite part of Shindig, particularly their conversation towards the end, is Mal pointing out that while he has trouble respecting her job, that doesn't mean he doesn't respect her. Atherton Wing didn't respect her as a person. I am LOVING your reactions to this and I can't wait for more. Kaylee is, I think, most people's favorite character. Idk if she's mine, but she's definitely up there. I think Wash might be my favorite.
Point of trivia: There is actually nothing in the hold at the end of Shindig. Turns out cows won't walk on grates (or even something painted with a grate pattern), so they had to be edited into the shot.
Love how much your enjoying this show. Just wait though, the movie will make clear so many things. Loved your reactions to both the dresses and the “married time”. Good stuff all around
So glad you are loving this masterpiece show. Episode quality may vary, but there is no such thing as a bad Firefly episode. Some Thoughts on the episodes: "BUSHWHACKED" Kaylee - "You had this on wrong". Good thing the space suit wasn't needed. If it was then the doctor would be dead. That last survivor was turning into a Reaver. Mal figured it out. Reavers are humans driven to madness and mutilation. Remember what Zoe said about Reavers in the pilot. Zoe: "If they take our ship, they'll [R @ P3] us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins into their clothing. And if we're very, very luck, they'll do it in that order." "SHINDIG" This episode highlights the differences between the social classes in the Firefly Universe. You will notice that Badger is very focused on his social standing. He is the catalyst that ties the story together. Mal's feelings for Inara combined with his disapproval of her career choice is also a strong component to the story. Mal was being hurt by Kaylee's praise on Inara's career choice - causing Mal to lash out at adorable Kaylee with the insult. " ... I cannot abide useless people." Perfect line. I love it. Atherton only wanted Inara as his latest "Rich Man's Toy". He never had any respect for her as a person. Mal doesn't like Inara's career choice, but as a person ... well ... you already know how he feels about Inara. "Sad little king of a sad little hill" Somehow, the "unstable" River knew how to handle Badger better than the rest of the crew could. She copied his accent perfectly. Badger was so charmed he didn't even want to hold River at gun point. He had no clue that Simon and River were brother & sister fugitives with a big fat reward over their heads.
No one could ever accuse Whedon of being a bad director or writer. I loved Buffy and Angel, and he did my one of my favorite movies "The Cabin In The Woods" as well.
@@Clownboy15 Yeah, I remember reading a interview with Alyson Hannigan (I think) and her saying that Joss did not allow ANY improv work on the show. The script was to be followed TO THE LETTER, and the few times improv ended up in the show, it was accidental. She wasn't complaining, mind you, there seemed to be a pretty good dynamics between Whedon and the cast members. I met James Marsters a few times, and at one of those meetings I gave him a lighter. He loved it, and said "I'm going to try to get this one the show!" A week or two later was the episode where Buffy finds Spike's lighter in her couch. There wasn't a close up of it, so I couldn't see for sure if it was the one I gave, though I like to think it was. Oh, and at that same meeting, I went to give James a peck on the cheek, and he turned his head and gave me a peck on the lips! They had to get a ladder to get me down from where I was floating on the ceiling, LOL!🥰James Marsters is one of the nicest celebs I've ever met!
Having been there since you started the channel, I ADORE all the pop culture quotes, quips, and references you are making yourself now! You’ve come a long, darlin’!
Why did you think it was necessary to say that? Do you think it makes you look smart? Well, It doesn't take intelligence to watch an episode or movie before someone else, but it does give a feeling of superiority to weak-minded people, who think they need to flaunt it like you just did. DON'T POST SPOILERS!
The Fox execs were not used to a show that told a story throughout a season. Firefly was one of those early shows that needed to be shown in order unlike a show such as Law & Order which can be viewed in any sequence. Also loved the reuse of the costumes from "Gone with the Wind" in Shindig. MGM has since sold these to collectors so its unlikely to ever see such use again.
😂😂😂 "Can't wait to see this gala that whatshertits is going to" ... You and this franchise were made for each other. Please give Jayne a chance. He's a bastard, sure... But he's OUR bastard. You'll see.
You'll find out most of what you'd want to know about Reavers when you watch the Serenity movie. The actor (in the bowler hat) who plays Badger also does a fun job as Crowley through most of the 20 or whatever seasons of Supernatural. (Also a good show.) If you want to dance like that, you should check out a local contra dance; it's somewhere between ballroom dance and square dance. No so much with the gowns and tuxedos though.
Glad you're liking this. It only gets better the rest of the way. Because it was shown out of order it made it really hard for people to get into at first and understand who these characters were. Many of us who watched it when it aired didnt really think it jelled until what I think will be episode 6 for you. Then it was terrific until the end.
I'm so glad you're loving this! They're all amazing characters with reasons to love them/hate them/root for them! The tension between Mal and Inara is just delicious tho.
You have to remember that the network was moving the show around and they played them in the wrong order... So the recap was VERY necessary for new viewers.
One of the things I like most about this show is the fact that they kept the Reavers a mystery for so long. River, on the other hand, isn't kept as such a deep mystery.
New battle cry: "Well, it's go time I reckon"
I agree
I'll be in my bunk
That’s more of a preamble than a battle cry.
@@awkwardashleigh You're about to hit the meat and potatoes of the series. These episodes were primary to give a glimpse into their lives. The next 4 episodes are considered the best of the series by most of the fanbase.
"Damn your inevitable betrayal...". - Wash - Pilot of Serenity 😅
Reavers started out as humans then were altered. Think Texas Chainsaw Massacre. All spacers know Reavers are bad news. Some think they are just a myth...until they run into some. 😮
My favorite Mal line: “Mercy is the virtue of a great man. (Stabs him) Guess I’m just a good man. (Stabs him again) Well, I’m alright.”
My absolute favorite Mal line..
Greatest line ever written for television, in my opinion. 😂
🤣🤣🤣 One of my all-time favorites!
Close second for that episode: "I might not show respect to your job, but he didn't respect *you*."
Jane Espenson is such a great writer. All of her Buffy episodes were equally as funny. ❤
"What are the Reavers" is one of the main themes of the show. You are meant to be in the dark about them at this point and scared of them. You always need to remember the line from Zoe a couple eps back. "If they take the ship, they'll r*** us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins into their clothing - and if we're very, very lucky, they'll do it in that order."
Except they are never mentioned again after Bushwhacked... The Reavers are dropped like a hot potato.
@@LordVolkov I get that the Reavers are an important part of Joss' universe, and I understand WHY, but personally, I think they were a mistake. They entered a horror show element into what could have otherwise been a satisfactory sci-fi- action-crime/ caper-exploration show. Just my humble opinion.
@@LordVolkov the Firefly movie does tie up those loose ends, if you're interested
@@cacklebarnacle15 I know, I just think it's funny that everyone makes a big deal about the Reavers but they are only mentioned in 2 episodes.
@@LordVolkov I'm sure they had planned to show more of them before the show was cancelled.
Alan Tudyk ( Wash) improvised his interrogation response. He went on for several minutes, more explicitly and suggestively, trying to break the other actor. It's in the deleted scenes. Great fun.
Alan is a national treasure.
That really doesn't surprise me about Alan.
"I may not respect your job, but he doesn't respect you. That's the difference." Such an underrated line.
YEP. Ashleigh commented too soon, and missed this line completely, which puts the "Whore Academy" line into a whole new context.
Mal is so weirdly puritanical about sex and almost nothing else. Inara seems perfectly comfortable being a companion. Mal really needs to work out his own sexual hang ups internally and stop taking them out on her. This whole storyline was such an early red flag for all the stuff that came out about Joss Whedon later.
Don't get me wrong - I still love the show, I just hate Mal's constant unwarranted disrespect and shaming of Inara.
@@LoganBluth Well Mal is religious in the first five minutes of the series, prior to his faith being shattered by losing the war. He initially embraces the crucifix in the pilot episode and later in the same show tells Book that God isn't welcome on his ship [anymore]. I've always been anti-religious myself, so I don't understand the allure of being puritanical in the first place, but I observe that many formerly-religious people are oddly idiosyncratic about what they hold onto and what they don't. In that way, I don't think he's a poorly written character.
To your other points, though, I agree -- it does say a lot about Joss, and it does irk me whenever Mal follows in kind.
@@extantsanity Oh, I agree. He's not poorly written, I just hate how Whedon always portrayed Mal and Inara's interactions as flirtatious banter, even when Mal was being massively sexist about Inara's profession. When Mal and Inara are verbally sparing about Mal being a petty criminal and Inara being condescendingly superior, that's all fine, those are both actual faults they each have. However, whenever Mal insults Inara for being a sex worker, it's still depicted as fun, flirty banter, not the unwarranted, puritanical misogyny it actually is.
@@LoganBluth
You seriously think someone who treats sex as a financial transaction (with a lot of pseudo -spiritual trappings thrown in for the gullible) gets to climb on a high moral horse over a person who just accurately describes their business so it upsets them?
She may pay rent, but it's still his ship.
Mal is obviously attracted to Inara, but he knows she's financially independent of him. He doesn't really understand why she's even aboard Serenity, but having her aboard is often useful and he feels beholden to her, which throws him off balance because he obviously HATES being beholden to anybody, except perhaps his crew.
To Mal, and most people who THINK, rather than FEEL, it's degrading to have the most intimate thing connecting a man and a woman get reduced to "did your credit check out?". He doesn't like seeing Inara "degrade herself" because he does care for her, but he knows she owes him nothing but the rent on the shuttle, and she can obviously do as she likes.
So he just exercises his OWN right to make his disapproval as clear as she makes her statements of independence.
As he points out more than once, she's free to leave anytime she likes. And he knows he'll just be left with her absence to add to everything else he's lost.
As River "reads" in his mind later:
"It doesn't mean a g-d damned thing."
Very excited for Ashleigh to learn Kaylee’s backstory 😂
"She likes engines"
Back story.. I see what you did there. How else was she gonna get a good look at the engine?
Low-key spoiler, but also come on, let's be mature here
Backstory. I see what you did there! 😂
"What in the Hellraiser is this shit?" Great line.
I found it to be specially poignant, considering what reavers are XD
@@yoshienverde My thougt to. The cenobites and reavers do have their similarities. I also see some resemblance between the Yuuzhan Vong from Star Wars Legends and Reavers. Just less civilized. :)
@@raggarbergman I have better nerdier analogies, but those would be very spoilery if somebody read them and checked the sources, so I'll keep them back (there's a certain relatively known niche comic, and a Korean film derived from said comic, that come to mind pretty quick, for example)
Jeez, seeing the Yuuzhan Vong mentioned makes me feel old XD
Ashleigh about River: When is she going to become a help?
Me: Hehehehe....
No power in the 'verse can stop me.
Just don't axe about the issue, yet.
I aim to misbehave.
@@Calaban619 I aim to misbehave.
Boy oh boy is she in for a SURPRISE !
"Jayne, you'll scare the woman" is a gentle insult like "You throw like a girl." Rough and tumble Jayne, who fears nothing, is terrified.
Yes; Jayne, who is normally not at all fazed, is terrified of the Reavers.
@@Caseytify Reavers Aint human.
Jayne got into his line of work with no illusions about the risk of getting beaten up, shot at or arrested and dumped in prison. Reavers, though... nobody signs up for reavers.
"That is so dark, yet hillarious " 100% perfect description of the entire Firefly series and Serenity movie
The old man who saves Kaylee from the mean girls in Shindig deserves a medal!
You mean "Dr. Giggles"??
I've liked Larry Drake since he played a mentally handicapped man in LA law. Great character actor
@@gypsygirl3255 also Robert G. Durant in Sam Raimi's "Darkman".
@@mcgilj1 and he and Morena were both in Stargate.
@@gypsygirl3255 never watched that one.. But I remember being bummed the "V" revival with her was axed at ABC.
One danger of River coming out is that of Badger might have recognized her as someone wanted by the Alliance, and possibly turned them in for a reward. But River read Badger like a book and schooled him. :)
Not only did they air out of order, they kept changing when it was scheduled to air, which killed any chance of building a fanbase while the show was running.
Changing the time the show is on is the number one way to kill a broadcast show.
Leaving out three of the episodes, including the best one, wasn't a great idea, either.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks - Are you kidding? It was a great idea... because they intentionally set out to kill Firefly from day one. And it worked.
The big guy is called Jayne. The man they call Jayne.
He robed from the rich and he gave to the poor.
The hero of Canton
Stood up to the man and gave him what for
Stood up to the man
And gave him what for
Mudder's Milk
I think I remember an interview where Jewel Staite (Kaylee's actress) states she doesn't actually like Strawberries, but because of this show everyone keeps gifting them to her
Early on, she had to let fans know because everything using strawberries had been brought to public appearances.
A bit like the actress who play Rory Gilmore started to hate coffee and had cola in her mug instead on the set. ^^
I brought her a bacon cheeseburger once. She mentioned more than a few times how much she loves them.
Kind of like how Jimmy Buffett didn't like Margaritas.
Everyone falls in love with the Kaylee character. So happy, optimistic, cheerful. Everyone who watches Firefly is automatically loving and protective of Kaylee.
Ashleigh, don't forget this tiny, key bit of dialogue from ep.3....
Jayne: "Reavers ain’t men."
Book: "Of course they are. Too long removed from civilization perhaps. But men."
Yeah, Book is kinda fatuous on this point. Otoh, if he means they're not aliens, he's right. No aliens in this show.
"If you gaze for long into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you" vibes.
Yeah 'having a split tongue' doesn't mean he's a reptile alien, it just means he cut his own tongue in half.
"Yes sir, captain tight pants" has always been one of my favourite Kaylee quotes.
Do you know the origin of the line?
Basically, in one of the early scenes, Nathan Fillion split his trousers. After which, the entire cast started calling him 'Captain Tightpants.'
@@Garryck-1 I did not know that! Thanks for sharing :)
Don't thank FOX, they are responsible for Firefly's demise after one season.
Like half a season. They didn't even get the full run
Don't really even blame all of Fox, it was really just the executive in charge of programming, the one who replaced the guy who gave Firefly the green light. She didn't like the show, so she sabotaged it in order to get it canceled quickly.
Without FOX we wouldn't even have the first season.
Now why in the hell did my reply get auto deleted??
@@DeathsjesterKMNP they didn't want the show but had to honour an agreement with Joss so they did everything they could to sabotage it and justify canceling it.
34:02 it seems like you missed a key line in that scene.
Mal : "I might not show respect to your job, but he didn't respect _you._ That's the difference."
Upvoting to help elevate this. Was about to say the same thing. Easy to miss stuff in this fantastic show.
it's not a very convincing line. you can't respect a person if you so disrespect who they choose to be.
@@sirmoonslosthismind Not exactly. You can love the person and hate their job. Or vice versus, you can respect the position and have nothing but disrespect for the person holding it. You'll sometimes hear people say, "respect the office, not the man" in relation to the President. Mal doesn't like that Inara is a Companion because he's jealous, he doesn't want her being with other men for any reason. Her vocation being respectable or not has nothing to do with it.
@@Falcun21 Friend of the family was a cop in Internal Investigations. He always said "Never disrespect the uniform, but don't hesitate to disrespect the asshole wearing it."
@@sirmoonslosthismind I disagree, simply because people are more than their jobs. Atherton saw Inara only as what her job was.
Mal might disrespect her job, but he knows that she is more than her job.
Ashleigh is learning why this show is so beloved.
Adam Baldwin, who plays Jayne, is just a fantastically fun actor. He really shines on the show Chuck, which is a big commitment for a reaction, but you should definitely watch it sometime, on camera or not.
That show had the BEST soundtrack
Still think Animal Mother was his best roll
I've like Adam Baldwin since I first saw him in Next of Kin
I’ve liked Adam since I first saw him in Independence Day. I love his characters, whether he’s playing hero or douchebag 😁 Like Bill Paxton, he went from a Hey, it’s that guy! actor to one of my favorites 😊
Poison Ivy with Michael J. Fox.. Won't say it made me his fan but I remembered his punchable face for decades.. lol.. took this and Chuck for me to actually appreciate him as an actor.
I think Jayne is low key an important character. The fact that Mal believes that he needs to keep a guy like Jayne around informs us on how dangerous their world and occupation are.
"Sure would be nice if we had some grenades."
Was waiting with anticipation for the reaction of Kaylee's dress. Mark Shepard, "Badger", worked with Summer Glau, "River", on her English cockney accent, which she did an outstanding job.
He was good in Battlestar Galactica as Romo Lamkin
@@gypsygirl3255 Yes he was. He's been good in everything I've seen him in.
* Itching to make some kind of Supernatural reference *
@gypsygirl3255 He's one of my favorite characters in two of my favorite sci-fi shows.
And he was Canton Everett Delaware III on Doctor Who!
Woo! More Firefly!
SHINY!
Kaylee at the party is one of the highlights of the series.
"Mercy is the mark of a great man.
I guess I'm just a good man.
Well ... I'm alright."
Why I love Mal and gravitate towards his alignment in DnD… Chaotic Good 😊
@@BigDamnHero74 Or perhaps the "scrupulous" alignment from the Palladium RPG's? "Generally good, but willing to bend a bit to get the job done" kind of thing.
@@BigDamnHero74More Chaotic Neutral. He'll do good when it suits him and bad when it suits him. Chaotic Good will not do bad, they'll just do Good or Neutral acts. Mal is just as likely to do a stand-up job as a criminal one, which is the very essence of neutrality.
@@Falcun21 yeah, but Mal does have a sense of morality and 8 times out of 10 will choose to do what’s right even if it puts him out… CN doesn’t really care.
@@Falcun21 Kicking a man through an engine can't really be considered "neutral". 😚
Great reactions. I love the interrogation scene with the crew. It shows their personalities.
Shindag is a fun episode. Jewel hated the dress. It was difficult to get in and out of. She couldn't sit down and she needed help to use the restroom. Mark Sheppard helped Summer on getting the accent down.
The issue with how Malcolm treats Inara is explained in this episode, but it's very easy to miss. Right after the 'whore academy' comment, when Inara (and the viewer) is getting mad, he says: "I might not show respect to your job, but he didn't respect *you*. That's the difference. Inara, he doesn't even see you."
This also helps explain the tension. Malcolm likes Inara, but he doesn't want a companion. Like most people in the outer planets he grew up on a farm where a wife is a partner.
Glad you're enjoying the series!
Atherton's mentality of Companions only being Companions & nothing more is one issue, Mal's issue is the opposite: while he knows that Inara isn't just a Companion, he fails to see that being a Companion is part of who she is. Inara chose & continues to choose being a Companion. If she didn't get some sense of fulfillment from it, she could easily choose a different career (being such an educated woman & all). Disrespecting her choice of career is disrespecting her in the process.
As a Companion Inara might not always be able to be a business partner (as farming couples often are), but it wouldn't stop her from being a life partner & Mal usually does his best not to involve Inara in any of their criminal enterprises anyway. I'm not sold on that being the problem. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
FIrefly will forever be one of my all time favourite shows! I love every single character on it and the chemistry between all of them is unmatched!
Its true
Hearing Ashleigh use the word "special" ahead of episode 6 made me smile.
"You had this on wrong."
"You didn't know, don't let them make you feel bad."
Just an FYI...you put a space-suit on wrong...and space will probably kill you for it. So...really Kaylee is trying to make sure he doesn't die next time.
and jayne´s joke had a practical gain for the doctor...
@@Metzwerg74 Couple of 'em. He got to spend time with Kaylee, and Kaylee got to inform him of how not to die in space when he'd be in the suit again a short while later.
"Feeling bad" or embarrassment can be a little like fear, sometimes that shit will save your life.
Yeah, I was going to say 'He'd have found out real quick.'
Loved it when you said 'took our cargo' you're a Browncoat now!
You can't "hate" Jayne.......Well, maybe you can, but the scenes where each crew member is being interrogated give you a good little view as to each character's personality. Zoe is very tough and tells the Alliance guy that her personal life is one of his business, then switch over to Wash who is telling him everything about his personal life! Jayne is just sitting there and not saying anything, defiant. Although we know that if he is offered money, he may just talk after all. He's a cool character to have.
"Maybe he decided to take a swim and see how fast his blood would boil out of his ears". In the vacuum of space, your blood begins to boil despite getting colder if you're in deep space (far from a sun). It would cause hemorrhaging at the ears, nose, mouth, and eyes.
This show doesn't shy away from the grizzly realities of space, but still manages to throw in some western charm!
The lower the atmospheric pressure the lower the boiling point of any liquid (space having zero pressure), which is why blood/water etc boils away. On the top of Mt Everest the boiling point of water is only 154F, not 212F like at sea level.
@milesbartlett Fun fact! On the top of Mount everest you can't boil an egg! This is because the temperature water boils at that elevation is lower than what you need to denature the egg proteins.
@@billhutchinson6318My dad grew up in sight of the Tetons in Wyoming and said that when his Boy Scout troop would go camping in the higher elevation areas that you could boil an egg all day and it'd never cook, and that was only like 9000-ish feet. I dunno if he ever actually tried it or was just telling a story, but he made it sound like it was something they tried so they could see if it would work or not.
@@billhutchinson6318depend on what you try to boil the egg with....
The prevelance of the wildly misleading 'boil' is what bothers me. Boil implies heat, while in space there is no heat and liquid simply evaporates due to lack of pressure.
The sword fight choreographer for Shindig is actor & stuntman Anthony DeLongis. He;s also the guy who taught Harrison Ford how to use a bullwhip in all of the Indiana Jones movies, and the same weapon to Michelle Pfeifer in _Batman Returns_ and Anthony Hopkins in _The Mask of Zorro_ .
Jane is one of my favorite characters. Don’t give up on him yet. 😊
Considering how many sexual jokes Ashleigh was making about Kayleigh and Inara, I was thinking her sense of humor was a lot like Jayne's.
Of course, that was right before Ashleigh said that she hated Jayne.
The really funny thing with Kaylee and her circle, they are all old guys that are only there to make an appearance, because that's what their standing demands. Usually they are bored to death as they don't fit in with their own 'crowd'. But as in any age where such balls happen, the old guys have their own small circles, be it about cars or, in this case, spaceships. For them Kaylee is someone they can talk and she brings a new perspective as she knows what she is talking about because that's what she lives for.
Reavers... let's put it this way without spoiling anything, but spare you some confusion. Biologically, they are human. Which makes them far scarier than most if not all alien possibilities, considering what they do to people as told in the first episode. At least in my opinion. And they made the poor guy watch what they did to everyone else on his ship. To his acquaintances, friends and family.
Heh. Down here on 21st century earth, Kaylee would be the adorable and charming country girl holding court about cars with all the old men in one corner of the same party, with half of them wanting to introduce her to their sons, and the other half thinking she was the son they never had even though they had sons. LOL
@@joeday4293 Oh, yes! No matter how different we all are from each other; I really don’t think it’s possible for anyone to hate Kaylee.
@@JohnWelsh-oz3jz No one who isn't a stupid "mean girl," anyway.
Every one of those old guys has a wife watching him from somewhere in the room. And they will hear about it.
Wait til you see how Mal and Kaylee met in episode 8……”Out of Gas* is my favorite episode of tv of all time
War Stories is mine, then Out Of Gas close second.
Out of Gas and Our Mrs Reynolds followed by Trash (of course) are mine.
I think mine is... "the message"... War Stories and Out of Gas though are fantastic.
You know what? She will have to wait until she gets to it.
Why don't you tell her the rest of the plot while you're at it?
Nobody cares about your opinion but you. Get over yourself and QUIT POSTING SPOILERS!
Dumbass. 🙄
Why don't you tell Ashleigh the rest of the plot of episode 8 while you're at it?
I'm sure that will make everyone think you're really smart.
DON"T POST SPOILERS!
The people who made this show also made "Titan A.E.", an animated movie set in the future after Earth has been destroyed. It has a lot of the same feel and humor. One of the creators, Ben Edlund, is the guy who created The Tick.
SPOON!!!!
"Not in the face!!"
God, I loved the Tick! The Chameleon, "Can't. Do. Plaid!" The Civic Minded 5 were fun 😁
"You can't fight evil with a macaroni duck!"
"I'll be the judge of that!"
"Evil is evergreen, chum!"
So to explain the Reaver situation; when they say that Reavers "aren't men", it just means that you can't think of them like as people, though they are still technically human.
The way it's described is that being stuck in the furthest reaches of space; cold, empty, nothing around; it slowly degrades away at the mind; at any sense of humanity. The people there become more and more feral and primal as being at the edge of nothingness takes over; until it gets to the point that the only thing that drives them is pain.
They continue to live only to inflict agony, as it has become the only thing they can comprehend. And when they don't have other people around; that agony instead gets inflicted onto themselves, stapling their own skin together and then tearing it open just so they can do it again; standing around unfiltered radiation that slowly cooks them from the inside out.
Thats what it means to become a Reaver; it's to go from a person with thoughts, values, desires, but by experiencing the darkest things in the universe; you transform a creature that is torture incarnate.
So yeah....you don't wanna meat them
@@MissMarchHare or meet them 😊
@@MissMarchHare You meet them, they meat you.
So Ashleigh's "Hellraiser" comment is actually very much on point.
You just don't want them to meat you.
This morning, I happened to stumble on an old episode of Steve McQueen's 1950s TV Western 'Wanted: Dead Or Alive'. The weapon McQueen uses in that is called 'The Mare's Leg' (thank you, Timothy Lockard) and it's very famous -- in fact, it's the same weapon that Jayne is holding at 3:30 in this video. Not a similar one: the same one!
I believe the firearm that was in "Wanted : Dead or Alive" was called Mare's Leg, not Hogleg.
@@timothylockard3846 Yes. Sorry. Still the same weapon, though.
And usually it's what Zoe carries.
I love the idea that the cargo was cattle. Like, driving cattle is such a western cowboy thing, and they’re doing it in space. I mean imagine bringing a herd of cattle between planets? No wonder that other guy was willing to pay under the table for it, shut must be expensive
But cheaper in the long run than tractors that don't make little tractors, and which break down easily and then need spare parts you don't have.
Cows don't need spare parts or repairs and they make little cows. Plus the milk and eventually meat, obviously.
Shindig and Our Mrs. Reynolds are my two favorites! Can’t wait for next week!
And then theres "Jaynestown" and "Out of gas" after that. Episodes 6, 7 and 8 are my favourites.
"I call it Vera."
From Inara in love with Mal to Vanessa in love with Wade. Morena Baccarin gets the craziest love interest roles.
She was also Lee Thompson in the Gotham TV series, love interest to James Gordon.
@@filthycasual8187and aren’t those two actors married in real life?
@@ninamravlja3632 I do believe so, yes.
And Anna in the series V, and Adria in Stargate.
"WHAT in the Hellraiser!?" Damm, that lady has a quick wit.
You watching Firefly is everything I needed.
Jayne is one of my favorite charectors on this show, Jayne, Kaylee and River. I really actually love them all. This show is very close to my heart.
Bushwacked is one of my favorite episodes. The Reavers are TERRIFYING.
Hey Angela, loved your reactions on this show as well! So fun to see folks get introduced to this shiny ‘Verse and by the end, donning on either their brown coats or Jayne’s hat… 😊 This is my favorite show ❤️
How can you not see this?!?! Ashleigh, you love Kaylee BECAUSE YOU ARE KAYLEE
Also, the main company in Firefly is Blue Sun, which is an US / Chinese partnership which ruled the Earth before it died. When the character’s speak slang, they are speaking Chinese.
In the first episode Zoe says "The Reavers, will rp us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins into their clothes and if we're very very lucky they'll do it in that order." Reavers are scary, very scary.
I thought she said that in the movie.
@@beetlebob4675 Nope. Rewatch Ashley's previous Firefly reaction.
@@kryptonianguest1903Except poor Ashleigh seemed to mishear a key part of that dialogue.
Reavers are the one thing that makes Jayne visibly afraid.
@@davidmcleod5133 True
I can not even choose a favorite character, they all just really grow on you. I couldn't imagine a show where one of the crew was gone. So glad you're enjoying yourself.
Reiver is actually an old English word for border raider. I always thought it was a Scottish word but no it was used about us instead 😁
Ashleigh: I love Kaylee
All of us: We All love Kaylee, she is precious and must be protected at all costs!
She's the truth on that ship.
When she says something, it's true.
Inara just gave you a hint as to what go-se is, "Oh go-se" ..................... "Oh shit".
Context explains a great deal. The trick is carefully paying attention.
A great many reactors are too concerned with making pithy commentary and so the miss a great deal.
Checking under the placemats.....one of our favorite scenes!! LOL!
Basically, "Reavers" are the "Boogeyman" of the Firefly universe. (the "'verse") Think evil "Space Zombies".
And yeah, at the party EVERY fan of Firefly LOVES that Kaylee went from abused (by the 'mean girls') outsider to forming her own clique! (and being quite popular in it)
Wait for episode 8 and the movie. Lovely Kaylee is such an innocent, cheery and bubbly girl, you can't help but love her.
I have the compendium for Firefly, it is sooooooo much fun to read the scripts along with watching it. You get all the nuances and you see where they "edit" things out. Also great back story on props, music, actors, characters and my favorite COSTUMES!!! you need to come to a comic con and meet the rest of the "Browncoats".
The only other show that got me hooked on episode 1 besides Battlestar Galactica and The Expanse, both great sci-fi shows to try also!
Well, episode 1 of Battlestar Galactica did have a cameo by Serenity, so I can understand your enthusiasm.
Jayne reminded me of Amos
Another show that hooked me from episode 1 was Doom Patrol... Alan Tudyk is the big bad of season one and is excellent as usual
@@kevinsizemore2053 Happy Immortimas Day!
"Are Reavers space pirates? That like to take stuff?"
Ohhhh they take stuff 😂
Just hope they remember to take stuff in the proper order.
They take stuff that ain't s'posed to come off... 😬
@@joeday4293 One could say, they like to play with their food.
Kaylee is the heart of the ship! Shindig is such a fun episode, but there are so many fun episodes in the series!
This series had no bad main characters, but Kaylee was the highlight!
That type of dancing didn't go away. Look for any local group dancing Jiggs, reels, square or circle dancing
Mark Shepard is one of the best character actors working today! I love him as Badger.
Yeah, I hope he's recovering from the 6 heart attacks he had in december.
@@Iymarra well, if you’d like, check out on here Michael Rosenbaum’s podcast “Inside of You”… he just interviewed Mark and he told all about what happened in a very funny and heartfelt way ❤️
He was also terrific on Doom Patrol.
He's coming to Pensacon in my hometown later this month, it's awesome that he's feeling up to it so soon after his health scare.
Crowley!
Shindig (episode 4) shows us the real Pretty in Pink dress.
“This guy looks like if Matthew Lillard had a different life.” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
And now I'm imagining Jayne getting drunk with Maniac from Wing Commander. (which is one of two Movies That Shall Not Be Named in my house, Matthew Lillard gave a better performance than it deserved.)
@9:40 How vicious, aggressive, and human-less reavers are was already described in the first or 2nd episode Ashleigh, I remember you talking over it and thinking "i don't think you've completely grasped the tone and feeling of what the pilot's wife had said about reavers"
Late 90s, early 2000s had the best sci-fi shows, especially when it comes to space. Babylon 5, Farscape, Battlestar Galactica, Firefly, Space: Above and Beyond. That last one was my jam, and it got canned too, after 1 season, but man I loved it, watching every episode when it aired...
Note that the Alliance soldiers are wearing the same uniforms and armor from Starship Troopers
It was literally left over after that movie, and therefore free to use. Budget savings!
And an underlying message didn't hurt.
My compliments on making the references to IT from the red balloon and Hellraiser from the piercings in that guy's face. Well done!
Jewel Staite (Kaylee) is such a darling, and awfully cute too.
She's also my favorite character.
The show was cancelled after a season so sadly, a lot of questions will remain unanswered but that's why the movie was made a few years later.
Even with the missing links it's still a very enjoyable show and yes, do watch it till the end.
Nathan Fillion (Mal) later played in a long running crime-mystery tv show (Castle) and in several episodes he makes subtle references to Firefly and in some even has members of the show in guest roles (like Jewel Staite, Gina Torres and Adam Baldwin)
He even dressed up as a space cowboy for Halloween one year, though his daughter slammed him since he'd been that 6 years prior...... He also briefly spoke Chinese in one episode, saying he'd learned it from a TV show he loved.
My favorite part of Shindig, particularly their conversation towards the end, is Mal pointing out that while he has trouble respecting her job, that doesn't mean he doesn't respect her. Atherton Wing didn't respect her as a person.
I am LOVING your reactions to this and I can't wait for more. Kaylee is, I think, most people's favorite character. Idk if she's mine, but she's definitely up there. I think Wash might be my favorite.
It only gets better
Point of trivia: There is actually nothing in the hold at the end of Shindig. Turns out cows won't walk on grates (or even something painted with a grate pattern), so they had to be edited into the shot.
I just keep having to stop myself from commenting spoilers 😂😂😂😂😂
Everyone loves Kaley. It's never stated but we all know she did the floral details on the galley walls.
Dressed as Inara for Halloween one year. But hard to explain to anyone who hasn’t seen the show. 😂🤣 but I made a bad ass dress.
Absolutely love watching someone see this for the first time. Genuinely wish I could see it again, for the first time!
That moment in Shindig is the best:
“Mercy is the mark of a great man.”
*stab*
“Guess I’m just a good man.”
*stab*
“Well, I’m alright…”
Love how much your enjoying this show. Just wait though, the movie will make clear so many things. Loved your reactions to both the dresses and the “married time”. Good stuff all around
Is Pennywise on board?! lmao i cant
So glad you are loving this masterpiece show. Episode quality may vary, but there is no such thing as a bad Firefly episode.
Some Thoughts on the episodes:
"BUSHWHACKED"
Kaylee - "You had this on wrong". Good thing the space suit wasn't needed. If it was then the doctor would be dead.
That last survivor was turning into a Reaver. Mal figured it out. Reavers are humans driven to madness and mutilation.
Remember what Zoe said about Reavers in the pilot. Zoe: "If they take our ship, they'll [R @ P3] us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins into their clothing. And if we're very, very luck, they'll do it in that order."
"SHINDIG"
This episode highlights the differences between the social classes in the Firefly Universe. You will notice that Badger is very focused on his social standing. He is the catalyst that ties the story together. Mal's feelings for Inara combined with his disapproval of her career choice is also a strong component to the story.
Mal was being hurt by Kaylee's praise on Inara's career choice - causing Mal to lash out at adorable Kaylee with the insult.
" ... I cannot abide useless people." Perfect line. I love it.
Atherton only wanted Inara as his latest "Rich Man's Toy". He never had any respect for her as a person. Mal doesn't like Inara's career choice, but as a person ... well ... you already know how he feels about Inara.
"Sad little king of a sad little hill"
Somehow, the "unstable" River knew how to handle Badger better than the rest of the crew could. She copied his accent perfectly. Badger was so charmed he didn't even want to hold River at gun point. He had no clue that Simon and River were brother & sister fugitives with a big fat reward over their heads.
I don't know if you reacted to "Full Metal Jacket" yet but Adam Baldwin who plays Jayne has a great role in that film.
"Put ole crazy ass on the alliance ship; let that do what that's going to do" So funny I can barely breathe!
No one could ever accuse Whedon of being a bad director or writer. I loved Buffy and Angel, and he did my one of my favorite movies "The Cabin In The Woods" as well.
Bad human being, yes. But I can separate the art from the artist in his case. I will never not enjoy Firefly, The Avengers, Dr. Horrible.
@@Clownboy15 Yeah, I remember reading a interview with Alyson Hannigan (I think) and her saying that Joss did not allow ANY improv work on the show. The script was to be followed TO THE LETTER, and the few times improv ended up in the show, it was accidental. She wasn't complaining, mind you, there seemed to be a pretty good dynamics between Whedon and the cast members. I met James Marsters a few times, and at one of those meetings I gave him a lighter. He loved it, and said "I'm going to try to get this one the show!" A week or two later was the episode where Buffy finds Spike's lighter in her couch. There wasn't a close up of it, so I couldn't see for sure if it was the one I gave, though I like to think it was. Oh, and at that same meeting, I went to give James a peck on the cheek, and he turned his head and gave me a peck on the lips! They had to get a ladder to get me down from where I was floating on the ceiling, LOL!🥰James Marsters is one of the nicest celebs I've ever met!
"The god of the nerds" - Honest Trailers
Having been there since you started the channel, I ADORE all the pop culture quotes, quips, and references you are making yourself now! You’ve come a long, darlin’!
The show never really does explain what the Reavers are but the followup movie gives closure to that storyline.
Why did you think it was necessary to say that?
Do you think it makes you look smart?
Well, It doesn't take intelligence to watch an episode or movie before someone else, but it does give a feeling of superiority to weak-minded people, who think they need to flaunt it like you just did.
DON'T POST SPOILERS!
The Fox execs were not used to a show that told a story throughout a season. Firefly was one of those early shows that needed to be shown in order unlike a show such as Law & Order which can be viewed in any sequence. Also loved the reuse of the costumes from "Gone with the Wind" in Shindig. MGM has since sold these to collectors so its unlikely to ever see such use again.
😂😂😂 "Can't wait to see this gala that whatshertits is going to" ...
You and this franchise were made for each other.
Please give Jayne a chance. He's a bastard, sure... But he's OUR bastard. You'll see.
You'll find out most of what you'd want to know about Reavers when you watch the Serenity movie. The actor (in the bowler hat) who plays Badger also does a fun job as Crowley through most of the 20 or whatever seasons of Supernatural. (Also a good show.) If you want to dance like that, you should check out a local contra dance; it's somewhere between ballroom dance and square dance. No so much with the gowns and tuxedos though.
"Looked bigger when I couldn't see him."
Jayne grows on you, I promise. He is a fountain of dumb phrases 😂
Glad you're liking this. It only gets better the rest of the way. Because it was shown out of order it made it really hard for people to get into at first and understand who these characters were. Many of us who watched it when it aired didnt really think it jelled until what I think will be episode 6 for you. Then it was terrific until the end.
When those girls make fun of Kaylee, it kills me every time.
I'm so glad you're loving this! They're all amazing characters with reasons to love them/hate them/root for them! The tension between Mal and Inara is just delicious tho.
I Sooooo can't wait for the ballad of Jane 😂😂 and River's line at the beginning of the next episode
Adam Baldwin who plays Jayne also played the nihilistic Marine Animal Mother in Full Metal Jacket. Baldwin is great at playing crazed tough guys.
You have to remember that the network was moving the show around and they played them in the wrong order... So the recap was VERY necessary for new viewers.
why they decided to leave it in for streaming platforms is a weird one
@@4ortytoon because that was the episode.
@@RetroRobotRadio technically it isn't but whether it is or is not the point is it's current purpose is not "VERY necessary for new viewers" any more.
One of the things I like most about this show is the fact that they kept the Reavers a mystery for so long.
River, on the other hand, isn't kept as such a deep mystery.
"Like her legs! Sorry" dont be. Thats what were here for. Lol