Mikko Hirvonen & Secrets of Driving techniques PART 2/3 - How to drive a front-wheel drive?

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  • WRC rally legend Mikko Hirvonen teaches you in this three part series how to drive fast with a front wheel drive, rear wheel drive and four wheel drive cars.

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  • @Xerxes1337
    @Xerxes1337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    Thanks now I can take my stock 1.6 206 to my local mountain road

    • @leobrambs
      @leobrambs ปีที่แล้ว +7

      same here

    • @borregoayudando1481
      @borregoayudando1481 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      a quick brake dab can actually fix power understeer in the wet

    • @TougeDriver111
      @TougeDriver111 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You are not alonez every week i time myself

    • @hulkgqnissanpatrol6121
      @hulkgqnissanpatrol6121 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      😂 I drive a 94 GA16DE Pulsar offroad every weekend on 45km offroad motorbike/4x4 track doing an average of 85km'h, it's also my daily 😂
      RB25 throttle body, no mufflers and loves it

  • @johnelway4826
    @johnelway4826 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Key difference: first driver turns out to the right before turning into the left turn to start the balance transfer. He did it so subtly and naturally that he forgot to even mention that step.

  • @ikahari
    @ikahari 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The explanation was perfect. iIt's the commitment in the corners at speed.

  • @viviondioline
    @viviondioline 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I fucking love the fiesta
    What a car

  • @HariNambiar
    @HariNambiar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Wonderful tutorial. Hats off Mikko!

  • @AceKylar
    @AceKylar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I came here to learn this, so I can have more shingo points with my FWD mercedes B200

  • @bblkeke
    @bblkeke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    5:07 the reason why he understeered wasn't because of gas control but because of unmatching the revs when downshifting.

    • @rayanflieh1453
      @rayanflieh1453 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes sometimes the right rev is more important than the braking itself

    • @goobytron2888
      @goobytron2888 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve found in my 05 Matrix, and 03 Cooper, that improper rev matching results in a snap oversteer. The weight transfer to the front makes the back of the car try to pass the front.
      The way to induce understeer is over speed on corner entry, braking too late, too much throttle through the mid corners and exit. But all cars are different I guess.

    • @laamada9128
      @laamada9128 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you correcting a professional driver 😂

    • @truejayoh
      @truejayoh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No. Opposite. It's called a shift lock. The car is sliding because there is no rev match.

    • @Dlck.C.Normous
      @Dlck.C.Normous 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@laamada9128 A professional driver can make mistakes too ya know

  • @jamesfederer5592
    @jamesfederer5592 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The traction is created by creating resistance on the spinning wheel (by braking) so that the other front wheel will get power/torque. Most FWD cars use open differential. When one wheel starts spinning, the other wheel has very little torque. With LSD differential, the effect of braking is reduced.

    • @arino6133
      @arino6133 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When you apply more throttle and counter steer with LSD, the car shoots out the other way so you can’t just throttle to correct

    • @borregoayudando1481
      @borregoayudando1481 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this is a topic Civic Si owners need to talk about

  • @paulstabin6233
    @paulstabin6233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Wonderful! Thank you. I have tried applying this technique with my '17 Civic SI and it works, even with my modest skills. The timing and amount of brake pressure is the challenge. Getting the car to rotate without scrubbing off too much speed. But without some trail braking you have an ugly turn. Fast in, slow through and fast out seems easy. Now if I can only get fast in, fast through, and fast out.
    Curious if the famous Scandinavian flick is recommended to get your front wheel drive car a bit sideways?

    • @ninjasarecool100
      @ninjasarecool100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I can answer that, no

    • @ninjasarecool100
      @ninjasarecool100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Unless its a hairpin then maybe

    • @bblkeke
      @bblkeke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      (I don't have much experience with a front wheel drive so this is just my theory.) You need to do the opposite to get the ff sideways, becouse the rear is being pulled by the front. If you scandinavian flick you most likely understeer. Best way to get an ff sideways is to weight shift to the front while turning in; to get it more sideways you gotta have more weight shift from the rear to the front. But keep in mind that weight shifting puts much more stress to the tires and suspension.

  • @markymarknj
    @markymarknj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you! Now, I can get a little more out of my Ford Focus, which I take out on my local back roads for fun.

  • @asiastreets4032
    @asiastreets4032 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Miss you in Wrc

  • @firsttitlegaming3156
    @firsttitlegaming3156 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tutorial

  • @lastminutesolutions
    @lastminutesolutions 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing video!

  • @armandolopez6302
    @armandolopez6302 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a fiesta st and boy is it hard to do this because the pedals are so close

  • @aksa3227
    @aksa3227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    basically in fwd we must oversteer it. because in natural fwd is understeer type (?)

    • @mkviis
      @mkviis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Every car understeers and oversteers. The difference is, in fwd, you don’t add throttle and steer hard to oversteer whilst in rwd you add throttle and steer hard to oversteer.

    • @mkviis
      @mkviis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oversteer is when the rear tires lose grip and slide the opposite direction of your front tires. If you're going left, your rear tires will slide to the right. In fwd, to keep all four wheels planted to the ground while steering right or left at cornering; is to add a bit of throttle, do not hard brake (understeer) or lift off from full throttle all of a sudden (oversteer)

  • @DashCamSerbia
    @DashCamSerbia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why not just release the throttle a bit instead of keeping the same throttle and left foot braking? What are the advantages?

    • @kricy8424
      @kricy8424 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It's better that way, the main goal is to keep the car planted through the turn, by avoiding weight transfer as you go off and on throttle, plus it keeps the turbo spooling, so better pedal response

    • @DashCamSerbia
      @DashCamSerbia 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kricy8424 Thanks.

    • @Biriadan
      @Biriadan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Its actually because throttle + brakes shifts the brake bias to the rear.
      Brakes are applied to all 4 wheels, and applying throttle at the same time cancels out the braking on the front wheels, but not the back.
      If you let off throttle you reduce understeer, but if you left foot brake you can get the car to oversteer, which is helpful if you need to get the car to rotate quickly.

    • @DashCamSerbia
      @DashCamSerbia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Biriadan Oh right. Thanks.

    • @giannisweightlifting3996
      @giannisweightlifting3996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Biriadan great explanation.so you full brake with your left, trail brake to turn, press gas pedal in entry and adjust both pedals mid corner? thats how it is done? do you need lim slip diff and harder suspension for better results?

  • @kascebet916
    @kascebet916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    could I do this in my 2.0 stock audi a4 asking for a friend

  • @magnumllama400
    @magnumllama400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sequential gearbox?

    • @al7422
      @al7422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah! I hope I can recreate this with my dct

  • @Surestick88
    @Surestick88 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know what rims on that car? *Just* can't read what's written on them at 1080p.

  • @aniketsuryavanshirana1989
    @aniketsuryavanshirana1989 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks , sir for sharing the idea.📎

  • @jmcrae8048
    @jmcrae8048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh look a 🦋

    • @jmcrae8048
      @jmcrae8048 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent tutorial

  • @KronicKid
    @KronicKid 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone else here cause they wanna take there fwd to the backroads without completely dying

  • @abc.garage
    @abc.garage 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trying to be fast

  • @sunanogaara6721
    @sunanogaara6721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hardest thing to explain is what is natural to you...

  • @OmegaF77
    @OmegaF77 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bwoah

  • @bodhisattvaaaaaa
    @bodhisattvaaaaaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's a rally car ,,I was expecting it in a normal car

    • @jasperherron5267
      @jasperherron5267 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      rally cars are normal cars with a roll cage and a sequential transmission 🏃you can apply this technique ti any fwd car that isnt a full automatic (so manuals and DCTs)

    • @tho9474
      @tho9474 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasperherron5267 why not automatic?

    • @jasperherron5267
      @jasperherron5267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tho9474 a regular automatic cant hold onto a gear all to well even if you put it into the sport mode, a DCT or a manual can stay in gear and hold it while you go through a bend while you feather the gas. an automatic you cant hold onto a gear, itll keep shifting even when you dont want it to which is terrible for fast times and maintaining power through bends. regular autos are p good for drag racing tho

  • @dimassavlog
    @dimassavlog 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Engine brakes more safe, thanks..

  • @DEmeryk
    @DEmeryk ปีที่แล้ว +7

    great content & explanation - Thanks Mikko.
    Add-on: Would be great to advice trainee to keep steering wheel in correct way and do this all the time between gear shifts.
    This is a challenge from day1, when we are used to drive daily cars in 'relaxed' way and will take time to mind-shift.
    So, try to 'keep' steering wheel correctly as much time as possible.

    • @jeff34566
      @jeff34566 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This comment is why comment sections exist. Thank you!

  • @monwhooperinvasive8064
    @monwhooperinvasive8064 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i understood exactly what he meant just by his explanation, great mind for driving and communicating

  • @darthtrump4428
    @darthtrump4428 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    does this works well if the car has open front diff
    i imagine it being quite possible for the rally modded car to have limited slip diff

    • @mh13mini
      @mh13mini 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i would think that this is with an LSD

    • @pmrrmm
      @pmrrmm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It does work although this helps you maximize the benefits of having an lsd

  • @NolanOhBrien
    @NolanOhBrien 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    finally something to do with my other leg, damn

  • @kettlebellcarnivore-vr5cw
    @kettlebellcarnivore-vr5cw ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Call me odd, but I absolutely love rallying a fwd.

    • @Dlck.C.Normous
      @Dlck.C.Normous 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great fun, nothing odd about it

  • @stasisthebest
    @stasisthebest 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ppl say that forza is arcade as fuk, but I learned this technique and got faster in real life by playing forza. Forza horizon nontheless.

  • @annmarieercoli7124
    @annmarieercoli7124 ปีที่แล้ว

    My summer car

  • @chriskelvin248
    @chriskelvin248 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Seeing as so many of today's cars and SUVs use "Haldex"-style 50/50 part-time awd systems, could you please feature some videos on how to get the most out these types in both high-traction (tarmac/ pavement) and low-traction (gravel/ dirt/ snow) situations? Please use VW Golf R ;)

    • @x-man4702
      @x-man4702 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here's a VW Rallye Golf: th-cam.com/video/w0FD6dTYZ_g/w-d-xo.html

  • @estendir
    @estendir 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    not clear, sorry : at 3:32 he mentions left brake .... so he can apply brake only on the left side wheels ?

    • @SkifBogdan
      @SkifBogdan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nu, e folosirea piciorului stang in apasarea franei pentru a distribui greutatea mai finut in fata masinii. Si mai important, creearea efectului de supravirare, care poate fi corectat cu acceleratia daca circumstantele cer asa ceva. Este o tehnica specifica pilotilor de raliu, si personal nu indemn practicarea acesteia pe drumurile publice.

    • @sirchimera6256
      @sirchimera6256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He meant breaking with your left foot. His right foot was on the gas and his left foot was feathering the break at the same time.

  • @miguelbertoni4601
    @miguelbertoni4601 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dont think he should have downshifted into second so early. Give me a shot😂