I have been using this video for reference as I'm learning how to race TCR on iRacing and it's helped so much!! Today I almost got my first win in the new touring car cup series on iRacing. Touring cars are one of my favorite forms of motorsport. Thanks for the help!
Hello Philip! I'm very happy to read that, I also enjoy swapping between GT and TV, and in TCR on Iracing you always have funny races. Have a look on the other videos "set up day with a real engineer" to learn more about how to change the set up on the tcr. Of course for now in Iracing is fixed, but may be helpful for the future!
We born at the same year, but i only started driving alone on my 13th, been driving fast whenever i could when there was no trafic in countryside gravel roads. Also the most experience i had was with front wheel drive vehicles. As you said around the middle of your video, and that applys to all kind of terrain, but on gravel and slippery roads, is where you understand how FWD really works. Unlike RWD where you might need to apply a countersteer to maintain the front where you want on the exit of the corner, the FWD doesn't require that if you enter on the right line at the right speed and the most important at the right GEAR, you simply keep the wheels straight and give the right amount of throttle. The counter steer on FWD can be used but if you keep for more time than is needed, the result may be really bad for you, well i could say a lot more about the fun i have with this kind of vehicle, but i came here just to share a bit of the opinio i have based on the few years i have driving fast front wheel drive. Unlike you i've never had the opportunity to race or work with that, but i've been on many dangerous roads trying to improve my skills for the sake of fun.
You are totally right on your experience and the feeling is really like that! Just be safe and I hope you can translate your passion into a hobby on track or closed roads, as is never a good idea to push the limits in to roads open to the public😅
Awesome!! Hahaha your description is hilarious and inspiring. “Yeah did like 20 minutes of practice and got 2nd IRL no biggie.” This is the best I’ve been looking for more FWD instruction for a couple months since the rs3 came to iRacing. Thanks!! More setup advice!!
I respect the hustle, man. Lied about the experience in touring car racing to get in there. Buckled down in the iracing grind and are now a manufacturer driver. Fantastic. Make the dream work. Love it
Love the video, coming from the Porche Cup car on iRacing to this has been a world of difference. Thanks for covering the comparison to other cars to help understand why things are different.
I have absolutely no Sim experience at all but I do some FWD time attack racing and this was fascinating to watch and learn.. I might need a Sim rig for practice and learning. As coming from RWD I am totally lost
really loving the TCR series since the new cars were added in iRacing - was looking for some tutorials on FWD to up my game and found this - didn't expect it to be in iRacing, haha - great info, ty so much!
yea, front wheel drive cars drive so much different than rear wheel. I feel like I sorta figured it out pretty well on my own but this was definitely helpful.
It's usually very hard to get the heat on the rear tyres but very easy to have it in the front, as they do most work. So I would try to lower them a lot on the front and raise them a bit on the rear.
Does this advice work in the real world? I’m racing a backroad circuit in my neighborhood. It’s a very windy and tight clearance mountain road. 1 and a half car maximum for the width of the entire track. Blindspots everywhere. 8 miles total and I can’t break my 7:9:175 time. Driving a Golf 5 speed manual.
Yes this are all advices for real life driving too. Keep in mind that most of the time road cars are way more understeering than race cars, so is not gonna snap out so much. Early throttle application will help you to keep minimum speed high thorough the corners without unsettling the car
so what about manual cars with FWD? are yu still suppose to break with your left foot? seems kinda impossible to break and use the clutch with one foot
Nope, you are right, it is not possible. You can practice with the heel and toe technique to apply a bit of throttle when you are still releasing the brake, but depends which type of pedals you have. Then in corners where you don't need to downshift you brake with the left foot.
Great video. Really enjoy driving the FWD TCs as of late. Do you think having a round GT wheel vs more of a rectangle formula/GTE wheel matters for these cars?
Hello, thank you! In the end it all depends mostly on your feelings and what you are used to. If you have always driven with a formula wheel you might adapt to the car quicker with that one, but in my personal opinion on FWD I like a bigger round touring car wheel. Even the half wheels they use now in cars such as the new Audi are way bigger than formula wheel, so the important part isn't really if you have it round or cut, but that the center diameter is a bit longer than a formula, to have your hands more far away from one another
interesting, but I am missing a bit more on how to counter understeer as that's mainly more of an issue with FWD cars or Quattro cars that are mainly front-biased.
Hello! There are many things you can do, for exemple: -reduce rear wing -increase rear ride height/lower front ride height (more pitch to front axle) -go backwards a lot on brake balance -stiffen the rear bar -soften the front bar -reduce differential preload -open the rear toe in (more toe out, tires looking more outwards) These are only a few, but be careful because will all these you will become a drift king 😂
@@alexfontana1873 thank you. I have a track weekend coming up in June. I'll be testing my cars temperatures and if that is under control next will be better suspension setup. I'm thinking of starting off cold tire pressure 5 psi higher in rears.
Absolutely up to the circuit, play around with it and see how the car behaves, sometimes is good to change it up if you go from a very twisty circuit to a high speed one, same as aero
I've never driven fast a FWD with rear steering, but I reckon the technique should stay the same and if anything you would have less issues in rotating the car, potentially avoiding a very aggressive set up and therefor keeping the car more balanced in high speed
Hello! I am looking for a sim/game that has the best fwd physics. Without including Iracing and raceroom which sim/game do you guys recommend. Currently I have GT sport and Asseto corsa for pc.
Hello! Honestly I believe Iracing and raceroom are the go-to for Fwd drive. I used the class A Mercedes and Clio cup in project cars 2 and wasn't bad! Even Grid Autosport should be great, but really depends on which hardware you are using!
@@cleoarchwhiza9006 Raceroom for sure for the FWD cars. Grid depends on the hardware because some don't work at all, but they have the Btcc cars so is pretty cool!
quindi non si usa tanto il trail bracking in entrata in curva, meglio frenare prima e entrare di sterzo in modo che la parte posteriore segua la rotazione..
Il trail braking lo si usa o per puntare giù il muso senza però bloccare l'anteriore, per consentire una rotazione migliore, o non lo si usa per evitare il posteriore parta troppo e troppo in fretta nel caso di curve veloci o un set up molto aggressivo, o lo si usa abbinandolo al gas, un dieci per cento di freno con un dieci per cento di gas stabilizza la macchina in entrata dei tratti veloci
![Are You Using The Throttle all WRONG? [Sim Racing]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/YQV3zZuCtkw/mqdefault.jpg)
I have been using this video for reference as I'm learning how to race TCR on iRacing and it's helped so much!! Today I almost got my first win in the new touring car cup series on iRacing. Touring cars are one of my favorite forms of motorsport. Thanks for the help!
Hello Philip! I'm very happy to read that, I also enjoy swapping between GT and TV, and in TCR on Iracing you always have funny races. Have a look on the other videos "set up day with a real engineer" to learn more about how to change the set up on the tcr. Of course for now in Iracing is fixed, but may be helpful for the future!
We born at the same year, but i only started driving alone on my 13th, been driving fast whenever i could when there was no trafic in countryside gravel roads. Also the most experience i had was with front wheel drive vehicles.
As you said around the middle of your video, and that applys to all kind of terrain, but on gravel and slippery roads, is where you understand how FWD really works.
Unlike RWD where you might need to apply a countersteer to maintain the front where you want on the exit of the corner, the FWD doesn't require that if you enter on the right line at the right speed and the most important at the right GEAR, you simply keep the wheels straight and give the right amount of throttle. The counter steer on FWD can be used but if you keep for more time than is needed, the result may be really bad for you, well i could say a lot more about the fun i have with this kind of vehicle, but i came here just to share a bit of the opinio i have based on the few years i have driving fast front wheel drive. Unlike you i've never had the opportunity to race or work with that, but i've been on many dangerous roads trying to improve my skills for the sake of fun.
You are totally right on your experience and the feeling is really like that!
Just be safe and I hope you can translate your passion into a hobby on track or closed roads, as is never a good idea to push the limits in to roads open to the public😅
Thx! Very useful for me as an iRacing TCR driver 👍🏻
Thank you for the feedback, stay tuned for an epic set up video with a real engineer coming soon!
Awesome!! Hahaha your description is hilarious and inspiring. “Yeah did like 20 minutes of practice and got 2nd IRL no biggie.” This is the best I’ve been looking for more FWD instruction for a couple months since the rs3 came to iRacing. Thanks!! More setup advice!!
Thanks mate appreciated! New videos coming soon
Getting ready for the ROAR this weekend and now inspired to try the TCR. Thanks!
You are welcome! Have a good race 🎉
I respect the hustle, man. Lied about the experience in touring car racing to get in there. Buckled down in the iracing grind and are now a manufacturer driver. Fantastic. Make the dream work. Love it
More than lied I omitted a couple of details!🤣 To bad that series doesn't exist anymore post pandemic. That's life
Great video. I always struggled with FWD cars. Very clear instructions. Thanks
Glad it helps! Let me know how it goes
Love the video, coming from the Porche Cup car on iRacing to this has been a world of difference. Thanks for covering the comparison to other cars to help understand why things are different.
Glad it helped mate! Enjoy and keep driving different type of cars, it will open a whole new world of techniques
I have absolutely no Sim experience at all but I do some FWD time attack racing and this was fascinating to watch and learn.. I might need a Sim rig for practice and learning.
As coming from RWD I am totally lost
You can definitely use all this in real racing too! Let me know how you get on 👌
really loving the TCR series since the new cars were added in iRacing - was looking for some tutorials on FWD to up my game and found this - didn't expect it to be in iRacing, haha - great info, ty so much!
Glad you liked it! Enjoy it 🤣👌
GREAT VIDEO
Hey thank you very much!
yea, front wheel drive cars drive so much different than rear wheel. I feel like I sorta figured it out pretty well on my own but this was definitely helpful.
Happy it was useful! Enjoy🏁
Awesome video. All the needed details for driving fwd cars 👌
Thank you! Glad it was helpful 👍🏁
Driving god, never really understood how to drive fwd efficiently till now.
Glad it was helpful!!
A tutorial updated to this year would be appreciated!
This video was very helpful thank you. Just watched it to prepare for some Assetto Corsa TCR racing :)"
Thank you! I'm glad it helped, let me know how it's going 👍🏁
@@alexfontana1873 winning lol😁
Brake, rotate, progressive gas.
The brake IS the rotation🎉
Great video, fwd is very fun
Thanks! It is indeed!
@@alexfontana1873 do you trailbrake on rwd/awd? is it just getting on the throttle gentler?
Amazing video! Too many things to learn 👍
Step by Step you will get it!
Great vid, thanks!
You are welcome Andrew!
Do you have any advice about how to set up the tire pressures on FWD touring cars? Is it that relevant?
It's usually very hard to get the heat on the rear tyres but very easy to have it in the front, as they do most work. So I would try to lower them a lot on the front and raise them a bit on the rear.
Excellent. Very true!!
thank you!!! i learned alot.
You are welcome! Enjoy 🙏
Does this advice work in the real world? I’m racing a backroad circuit in my neighborhood. It’s a very windy and tight clearance mountain road. 1 and a half car maximum for the width of the entire track. Blindspots everywhere. 8 miles total and I can’t break my 7:9:175 time. Driving a Golf 5 speed manual.
Yes this are all advices for real life driving too. Keep in mind that most of the time road cars are way more understeering than race cars, so is not gonna snap out so much. Early throttle application will help you to keep minimum speed high thorough the corners without unsettling the car
Grande numero 1!!
Grazie Stefano!!
so what about manual cars with FWD? are yu still suppose to break with your left foot? seems kinda impossible to break and use the clutch with one foot
Nope, you are right, it is not possible. You can practice with the heel and toe technique to apply a bit of throttle when you are still releasing the brake, but depends which type of pedals you have. Then in corners where you don't need to downshift you brake with the left foot.
Amazing video!
From your experience, what do you recommend for as first/beginner track day car, FWD or RWD?
Thanks! For a pure fun point of view, definetely RWD. More enjoyable and "pure" as a form of racing.
Thanks!
Great video. Really enjoy driving the FWD TCs as of late. Do you think having a round GT wheel vs more of a rectangle formula/GTE wheel matters for these cars?
Hello, thank you! In the end it all depends mostly on your feelings and what you are used to. If you have always driven with a formula wheel you might adapt to the car quicker with that one, but in my personal opinion on FWD I like a bigger round touring car wheel. Even the half wheels they use now in cars such as the new Audi are way bigger than formula wheel, so the important part isn't really if you have it round or cut, but that the center diameter is a bit longer than a formula, to have your hands more far away from one another
What about a asphalt oval track tutorial
interesting, but I am missing a bit more on how to counter understeer as that's mainly more of an issue with FWD cars or Quattro cars that are mainly front-biased.
Hello! I'm sorry, what do you mean with counter understeer?
How do you get the rear end of a FWD drive car to slide around?
Hello! There are many things you can do, for exemple:
-reduce rear wing
-increase rear ride height/lower front ride height (more pitch to front axle)
-go backwards a lot on brake balance
-stiffen the rear bar
-soften the front bar
-reduce differential preload
-open the rear toe in (more toe out, tires looking more outwards)
These are only a few, but be careful because will all these you will become a drift king 😂
@@alexfontana1873 thank you. I have a track weekend coming up in June. I'll be testing my cars temperatures and if that is under control next will be better suspension setup. I'm thinking of starting off cold tire pressure 5 psi higher in rears.
Let me know how it goes!
@@alexfontana1873 sure thing. I'll post videos on my channel for sure. Hopefully everything goes as planned and I get to go.
Thnx...
Do you guys always use a 100% locked front diff or sometimes use values like 50-60% etc
Absolutely up to the circuit, play around with it and see how the car behaves, sometimes is good to change it up if you go from a very twisty circuit to a high speed one, same as aero
Alex Fontana Thanks
Would a FWD with any sort of rear steering change anything? Or do you try to apply the same technique but with that added complexity?
I've never driven fast a FWD with rear steering, but I reckon the technique should stay the same and if anything you would have less issues in rotating the car, potentially avoiding a very aggressive set up and therefor keeping the car more balanced in high speed
Me watching this to gain time on the back roads with my 02 neon
Nice!!
THAT'S GIC!!!
Dui! Ctcc at Gic👍
Hello! I am looking for a sim/game that has the best fwd physics. Without including Iracing and raceroom which sim/game do you guys recommend. Currently I have GT sport and Asseto corsa for pc.
Hello! Honestly I believe Iracing and raceroom are the go-to for Fwd drive. I used the class A Mercedes and Clio cup in project cars 2 and wasn't bad! Even Grid Autosport should be great, but really depends on which hardware you are using!
Alex Fontana Oh wow thanks, I guess I'm gonna have to try raceroom now. And grid is good too eh? I will be considering that as well.
@@cleoarchwhiza9006 Raceroom for sure for the FWD cars. Grid depends on the hardware because some don't work at all, but they have the Btcc cars so is pretty cool!
Were you the guy that pulled off that drift overtake or am I misremembering
When? 😂😂
@@alexfontana1873 2014 korea speed festival k3 koup ksf race
Definetely not ahah. I have been in Korea only once and was in 2018
This guy said “China” more than any word lol
quindi non si usa tanto il trail bracking in entrata in curva, meglio frenare prima e entrare di sterzo in modo che la parte posteriore segua la rotazione..
Il trail braking lo si usa o per puntare giù il muso senza però bloccare l'anteriore, per consentire una rotazione migliore, o non lo si usa per evitare il posteriore parta troppo e troppo in fretta nel caso di curve veloci o un set up molto aggressivo, o lo si usa abbinandolo al gas, un dieci per cento di freno con un dieci per cento di gas stabilizza la macchina in entrata dei tratti veloci
Oro so come guidare al meglio la Octavia Cup
Ahah ottimo! Seguirò i risultati
I just wanna drive my shitbox Toyota well on the road
Go for it!