- The Do It All Rifle - 13.7” AR-15
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- Can you build a Do It All rifle? If you can’t have three rifles(carbine, recce, SPR) you can make one that almost does what three can.
13.7" Pinned and Welded ROSCO MFG Upper Receiver
Carbine - Rifle w/ Red Dot
“RECCE” - Rifle with LPVO (1-10 or 1-8)
SPR - Rifle with higher magnification
It's funny how it seems counter intuitive to have a 14.5 without an LPVO, but a 13.7 or 13.9 with one, but the 5.56 doesn't lose much in the way less than an inch of barrel. Sweet setups, thanks for sharing
I was making 500yd shots consistently with cheap 55gr ammo…
I’ve become a big fan of the 12.5 lately, I run a nightfoce ATACR 1-8, offset Acro, LA5, and a Surefire short can. the length is absolutely usable for CQB, and it’s repeatable out to 600.
That’s a rad setup 🤌🏻
I ran Colt MK18 from 2007 - 2014ish . Then I switched to 12.5 . About 10 months ago I switched to 13.×" .
I cannot argue with anyone who says 12.5 is the best . I used my 12.5 in 2Gun Matches . Some of those matches we shot out to 500 yards .
13.×" for me makes the most sense because where I live having SBR does not make enough sense. I live on the border of 3 states and shoot in all e states so I ran my 12.5 in pistol config with TR24 1-4× .
Your rig sounds pretty bad ass
I do something similar. But a 12” LMT piston setup
@@MellowFellowOfYellow I have Buddy who has LMT Shovelnose 12" Piston . He absolutely loves it .
One day I'm gonna have to pick up LMT CQB or Shovelnose 12" Piston. I've always wanted LMT Piston . I kick myself in the ass for selling my Sig 516 .
I'll probably end up with LWRCI A5 12.7" ..
@@seanwhite304 How front heavy are those piston guns? Is there any weight at all in the ass, or is it always 'pulling you forward'?
Sweet rifles! Dig the set ups, thanks for sharing.
I find the 13.7 to be a good middle ground for cqb and medium range applications. I wanted the solgw but out of stock and I couldn't pass up the sale price on a BA Hanson profile 13.7" barrel. Paired that with a STNGR Raptor rail, Aero FDE upper receiver, HM defense bcg, BCM lpk, ALG combat trigger, PSA stealth lower, SBA4 brace, BCM 4x4 ambi ch, fixed UTG rear A2 slim profile sight and fixed Troy HK front sight with an Atibal MCRD II rds, and surefire 3 prong flash hider. I thought about a LPVO, but then I added that to my 20" M16A4 clone to make it more of a SPR. If anything, I might pull the magpul pro buis from my 16" rifle and put them on the 13.7" and get a PA Aurora 5x prism with a mini reflex to piggy back. Too many options lol.
Nice rifles. And good quality video. LPVO=low power variable optic. Check out the Primary Arms PLx 1-8x Compact for your 14.5. It’s approx 1” shorter than every other LPVO and only 16.9oz. I was debating between a Razor and a VUDU for a 13.7 Sons of Liberty Gun Works rifle but saw the Primary Arms Compact and have read really good things about it. And only 16.9oz, it’s a lot lighter than the Razor.
I do hear good things about the PLX 1-8.
Just picked up the plx 1-8 compact for my 13.7 Solgw…absolutely no complaints with that setup, also running with a rein 2.0 and peq15
@@cmp9338 nice!
The PLxC is phenomenal
Thank you for admitting that 300 yards is very hard to actually shoot without any magnifying optic.
Definitely hard to make PID(not on a flat range)…and feel comfortable with the shot.
@@MillWorks-vi6oj indeed. I see so many videos of people crapping on cheaper hardware like everyone can afford 10k setups. They expect a 16 inch pencil barrel to hold sub moa groups at 500 yards! Lol it's amazing to me
had to do it in the military and it was tough not impossible. i do think its better to let the target get closer unless you have a zoom
Yeah people think shooting at a flat white target at a known distance is hot shit. People don’t stand straight up in real life and certainly aren’t flat colors
It's possible, but it was hard to do when I was a young man. I can not see anything of value at 300 yards without some sort of magnification, so ... might as well be a nice piece of glass.
i have a 18" and a 11.5. the 18 can really help drop animals medium game. not everything is people fighting..
3:30 but which one would you have is the question?
Great information
With the AR-15 platform, you DO NOT need to limit yourself to a single upper configuration. You can build 1 complete lower and a minimum of 2 specialized uppers. CQB Upper: 11.5" barrel, free float M-Lok handguard, red dot, flash hider+short suppressor, & flashlight. Range: 0 -240 yards point blank with 55, 62, & 77 gr ammo. Do you really need to worry about the BATF, FBI, CIA, NSA, or military coming to arrest you for having an unregistered shorty in a scenario involving a world in total chaos and going to Hell fast? Or can you use whatever barrel length you want? This scenario involves you surviving a world where every nation has collapsed and fallen under the rule of a single world leader out to exterminate you, a Christian who missed the Rapture. Battlefield Range Upper: 18" barrel, free float M-Lok handguard, 1-8X LPVO or 2.5-10X scope, & flash hider+short suppressor. Range: 200 to 500 yards with 62 and 77 gr ammo. Do you need all that $$$ night vision range finding energy emitting stuff on your handguard? No you don't. You don't want to take the change that those hunting you can see exactly where you are by tracing that energy emission back to your face. You already have to worry about masking your body and rifle's IR signature from drones, etc. But remember what the Good Book says, "Those who live by the sword will die by the sword".
I use Criterion Core barrels and with good ammo I’m hitting 6” steel at 300 even with my 12.5” with Eotech with magnifier, and with my 13.9”with a 1-8, I’m stacking sub moa at 300, for now that’s the longest I can shoot at the range I use…… looking for a longer range to stretch out my 13.9, 16 and 18…… nice set up
Nice!!!
I'm about to build 1 do it all 556 or 308. I'm a smaller guy so I was thinking 13.9 556 with 1-8lpvo
440yards is a 1/4 mile do you think 13.9 is my best choice? If I go to 16 seems I should just go with a 308
Problem is after 1 13.7” I now have like ducking 6 13.7-14.5”’s. 😂what can I say, it’s s good size w/k can.
I feel like this is the scene off of “Something About Mary” movie. Seven minute abs. No, 6 minute abs is the key. Lol. I think I am going to do a 13.6 or 13.8 inch barrel build. Maybe a 12.7. Good video.
😂😂😂
Nice SPR too bad the 556 cartridge it’s like shooting airsoft at long range no energy time to switch to the 6 mm arc
Is the rifle at the end a 13.7? Said he can hit 500 consistently with it, that's nuts
All day 500yd shots with the 13.7. Good ammo goes better than middle tier 55gr
@@MillWorks-vi6oj I'm debating 13.7 solgw upper or 16 recee bcm upper.
Not sure which one to get. I have a 10.5 psa but I need a serious gun that can handle the battle field
You can’t go wrong with either one…you’ll get a touch more velocity out of the 16” with the right ammo…but I push my 13.7 to 500yds almost every time I go to the range. Both brands are excellent.🤙🏻
Great bud man, I have a 13.9 that’s like a GP rifle.
Good video--gets right to point. I'm doing a bunch AR reviews on my channel (soon) Subscribed!
I saw a few comments about the lengths but I guess they think the America is Afghanistan or something. Nice rigs bro, subbed!!
Good shit. My go to is a sons of liberty 13.7, suppressed with a dead air sandman s, runnin a dot and magnifier in unity mounts. Have a surefire scout vampire in conjunction with a dual laser. Run b5 furniture, radian ambi safety, giessle charging handle, giessle SSAE trigger and a giessle maritime bolt catch.
Beautiful set up 🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻
@@MillWorks-vi6oj preciate it brotha, you got some bombproof shit yourself friend. 👍
I now crown you the new king of camoform. Here you dropped this king. 👑
Hahaha
Have that same 13.7 barrel. Roscos are accurate as hell
I’ve had a lot of their barrels…very happy with all of them.
I am one of those people that cannot afford to have multiple firearms(a poor if you will) to cover those differences. so what I would like to build my AR-15 to be that multi purpose platform, but here is the catch. I want to be able to build that non-suppressed multi purpose AR-15, using standard/common use readily available ammunition, preferably shooting 1moa or less reaching from CQB out to a minimum of 500yds or better with the shortest barrel possible without having to deal with an NFA SBR.. nobody seems to have any reliable information to be able to complete that task
This is exactly why I made this video. If you can only have one or only want to spend money on one…the 13.7 or a 13.9 seems to fit the bill with good ammo and training.
I find it hard to understand why someone would upgrade a gun in so many intelligent ways, then put a stubby PDW size grip on it. A normal sized grip makes the larger/heavier rifle exponentially more controllable and costs nothing extra.
Grips work perfectly for me. I have them on every rifle I own. 🤙🏻
My do all is a lwrc 14.7 w/ atacr 1-8 and a Surefire . My NV setup is a 11.5 virtus with a leupold 1-6 and a night vision DPP on a offset mount. Waiting for my can for my rattler and the approval for my honey badger sd
Both super solid builds 🤙🏻. I really like the ATACR…I just couldn’t beat this optic and mount combo(on sale) under $1350
Pro tip... the next video you show comparing lengths and rifle setups and try to give it a background where the rifle stands out...there's too much clutter for the eye to see with that dark stuff behind it in the van. I was really looking forward to checking out your setups but the camera was too far and there was too much blending of the colors with the rifle behind it. I just subbed as well so.
I agree. I only spend 30 minutes total on each video so they get recorded when im free. Sun wasn’t cooperating to use a sifter background this day. One day I’ll have a backdrop 🤙🏻
You're going to get clapped by a dude with an Anderson frankenbuild and he's going to take your shit. 🤣
It’ll happen to a lot of people…he’ll probably have Magpul MBUIS and an oil filter suppressor
@@MillWorks-vi6oj this is true.
@Lynx Actual sorry if that triggered you sweettits. I don't own any budget builds and Im sure as hell not a "poor". Id be very surprised if you make as much as I do. And I'm sure all my stuff will be taken by a guy with a 10/22 with a truglow red dot.
Jealous of every one of them
I’m Jealous of your bags of gold…
🤣🤣
BA 13.9" Hanson QPQ is my favorite setup . I run 2 13.9 setups . One with Red dot and one with LPVO .
Those BA Hanson Barrels are freaking legit and love the profile of them . I currently have 1-10× on one of my 13.9s . I'm more than likely going to move my 1-10 to my 6ARC and get PLX COMPACT 1-8× GRIFFIN MIL ACSS . Even when I shoot out to 50p yards I usually run it at 6× or 8× . I only use 10x to PID and then i back off .
If I could only have 1 rig . I'd be taking LPVO with Offset or Top Hat Red dot .
I love the BA Hanson barrels…I’ve had several
Piggyback dot supremacy
@@StrideResearch I ran LPVO with Top Hat MRDS for years . I ultimately just switched to just LPVO . For me i noticed almost 0 time difference between LPVO at 1× and Red Dot at CQB environments.
That's why i went with 2 setups. One with red dot and one with LPVO .
If i could have 1 for sure it would be LPVO with top Hat MRDS
@seanwhite304
The main difference I see isn’t 1x lpvo vs. 1x red dot but the ability to be at, let's say, 10x on your scope and not adjust the scope to react immediately to something.
It also helps with scanning a whole area and putting the dot on something, then looking through the scope immediately at max power. That helps you avoid awkward searching for the target on high zoom with a low FOV or searching on low zoom and then adjusting.
You've also got the ability to use it for passive night vision if you're at all concerned about "near peer adversaries"
What tripod is that
SLIK PRO 700 DX with a TRICLAWPS clamp
@@MillWorks-vi6oj do you zero your rifles with this
@@Gorkabandit absolutely. I lower it and get on a seated position.
45 deg A2 offsets for your back ups
hey i have that light on my AR!
Great video. I like the 308 because it will stop a vehicle engine. I don't think you can really call a 223 rifle a do it all. It has trouble with stopping power. Half dozen hits and people are still going. Or the fact it won't disable most vehicles.
Your set up bro.
Another great video👍🏾 curious on why there isn’t a 16 inch in the rotation?
The SPR is the only 16” of the three. The other two are 13.7 and 14.5(both p&w).
But why the tiny barrel. You’ve taken away the thing that makes a 223 cartridge affective, speed.
Yes you can hit something at 500 meters, but by the time it gets there it’s closer to a 22LR.
@StonoBandito also, hits on target are hits on target. A 22lr in the heart/lung/liver etc is still gonna ruin your whole month.
I’m losing maybe 200fPS over that of a 16” barrel with 55gr… the energy loss would be negligible if we are talking apples/apples. The shorter barrel would be for those wanting maneuverability since this would be their “do everything” rifle. It’s not ideal for long shots…but that’s not really the intent or my assertion.
Too short. You just gimped the ballistics for those long range shots. It's an instagram rifle parading as a "do all".
First, define long range. Second, run the chrono. Third, context/understand the difference. “Accurate hits” ≠ terminal hits. Distinctions matters.
@@bamaAl14 you know what he means. The ballistics out of a 10.5” at 500 is seriously lacking. Same round out of a 18” is considerably deadlier.
Do it all as in Urban and Rural. Honestly what human being are you going to shoot at 500 yards?
@@MF-Rell Same could be said for any range. Why not just chop their head off with an axe if you are 4 feet from them? Axes are cheaper, simpler and use less ammo.
The title is "do it all". Not "Flavor of the month instagram accessorie larp" rifle.
In a shtf, PID goes out the winder
No it absolutely doesn’t
Where did you get your 13.7 upper arm? I'm currently building an AR-15 13.7 and I'm looking for a 13.7 complete upper. Any help?
Best option would be SOLGW, but consider calling APE Defense or messaging them on IG. They will build you an awesome upper. Tell them I sent you.
Mine was built by rainierArms
@@MillWorks-vi6oj thank you
@@MillWorks-vi6oj I saw theirs, intrigued for sure but cannot find reviews on their uppers as far as like oh I've shot 5k rounds and it's still sub moa etc...
@@bensmith9164 Ape Defense is a new company…but their gun smiths have 20+yrs experience with the AR Platform. They use premium components and build techniques to ensure top tier quality.
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What velocities are you getting out of the 77 gr on the 13.7? I can’t find much of any data on the barrel length velocities
I’ll Chrono it next time I go to the range. I’ll report back.
@@MillWorks-vi6oj that would be awesome, thank you. I can’t find any data on any GRs for 13.7. I have an upper but i want to get my LPVO holds set up correctly
just moved from a 10.5 5.56 pistol to a 14.5 p/w ballistic advantage barrel. love the length for a jack carbine, stil deciding what optic to go with.
What's the point of the law folder besides extra weight on the AR?
To fold it and store it in smaller places(like a bag or a box)
I dont think 223 is a “do it all”. Id move to the 6.5 creed more or 308 for do it all riffle
I raise you, 6ARC.
@@StrideResearch Yep 6ARC is the crap! There is a reason SF is using it so much right now.
@@KJ-ym1qg They use it in SBR's along with the 6.5 creedmoor.
I have a 6 arc and love it but can’t shoot it near as much as I’d like to because of ammo $ and availability
What color is that b5 stock and what grip? Fde or coyote brown?
David, Which one of the three rifles?
Sorry, the SPR rifle. The second gun you talk about. The first one looks like a ranger green or olive drab ?
@@Klikklikboom0911 b5 Coyote stock on the SPR and Reptilia Field Drab grip on the SPR
They look good brother
@@Klikklikboom0911 i appreciate it man 🤙🏻 new videos of new rifles dropping this weekend if the weather holds. 🙏🏻