13-0 from the other side - Special Podcast w/special guest Perfect Legend

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  • @mlo009
    @mlo009 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Lots of respect for PL's accomplishments.
    Props for PL and Tom for this episode, lots of insight, and it's always to fun to listen to gaming history and stories.

    • @PerfectLegend
      @PerfectLegend 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      🤝🏽

    • @xmartinv1xvideogamingtv69
      @xmartinv1xvideogamingtv69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. I’m eating while watching and listening to this

    • @kokujinblack77
      @kokujinblack77 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PerfectLegendjust something to consider, try getting some therapy for what happened to you. I think you might have some unprocessed emotions in regards to what happened leading up to the set.

  • @vinnizle
    @vinnizle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    If hes saying hes godlike at Mk1 he needs to show up at tourneys. Everyone loves an underdog story. Imagine he comes back and wins a major then beats sonic in an exhibition? Its ahuge story that can jump his career like crazy

    • @hands-ongaming7180
      @hands-ongaming7180 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      He has too much pride fo that

    • @PerfectLegend
      @PerfectLegend 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      Why do y’all not think when it comes to stuff like “wow there’s no crossplay this is why he hasn’t entered anything” “ect had two weeks notice” “ufa is in France”. How come your brain is capable of everything else but realizing or acknowledging what I just told you? Why do y’all ignore when I attend tourneys when I never stopped? Why I got to enter every event why can’t I just enter majors. Why do y’all never say anything to players dodging tourneys but I’m always #1 player y’all want to see play but never make an effort to see play? Furthermore I do not care to prove anything to y’all with how y’all have treated me for years. I’m moving on. You think after I win I would want to keep playing mk for your enjoyment and y’all already don’t watch? No lol.

    • @batboythecool
      @batboythecool 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@PerfectLegendreal shit.

    • @aot9199
      @aot9199 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      ​@@PerfectLegend ​ relax, good players get called out when they duck or dont attend tourneys. heck ninja was called duckilla at one point it ain't just you.Stop whining and playing a victim like always

    • @PerfectLegend
      @PerfectLegend 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      YOU relax. I will do as I please and at my convenience. @@aot9199

  • @CameronDC-Grimes
    @CameronDC-Grimes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Thank you Brady for letting PL speak on here. I didn't know about his side at all. I had respect for him back in 9 cuz you could clearly see he had Skill using Kung Lao vs REO's Kabal there was another level of talent back then.

  • @rubberbandclan1017
    @rubberbandclan1017 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I met PL and sonicfox at combo breaker PL was the most coolest chill dude in the building shout outs to PL

    • @foxx8x
      @foxx8x 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      But acts like a goofball on twitter

    • @just_2swift
      @just_2swift 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@foxx8xwho sonic?

    • @foxx8x
      @foxx8x 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@just_2swift both actually lol

    • @bfFAN221
      @bfFAN221 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The paraphilic degenerate moreso, what with the god complex and all... @@foxx8x

    • @RAIN_2001
      @RAIN_2001 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@just_2swift yep

  • @likenoother6561
    @likenoother6561 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This was PLs chance to really show some humility and own up to what happened in addition to telling his story but once again he just made up excuses and came off cocky. Yes Kitana was buffed and it was a bad MU for Kung Lao but he couldve bowed out gracefully afterwards and admitted defeat. Him sitting here making up a ton of excuses and acting like he hasnt even seen the video and doesnt remember what he said? Complaining about the time and lack of practice? His pride caused him to lose 13-0 in a FT10 and thats what made so many people lose that respect. He had a chance to really set the record straight and possibly even reset the timeline in MK1 but even now he is being prideful and cocky talking about he is months ahead of everyone but has literally appeared in nothing? Sorry but its delusional. He needs to either put up or shut up.

    • @doolioart3314
      @doolioart3314 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even with all that said, the erasure or whatever we want to call it, is insane. I've never seen anything like it and it's just plain weird. It's very iffy, to say the least.

  • @TheBestOfTheWorst
    @TheBestOfTheWorst 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    From what I remember back when 13-0 happened the issue against PL is that he's this legend from MK9. He loses by a ridiculously large margin. And never takes the L. Always has reasons and excuses for the loss. Even in this podcast, he never once gives Sonic flowers.
    Let's not act like Kung Lao was low tier. He spent a significant period of MKX at the top of the heap but foxy Grandpa is who people remember as the Kung Lao goat for the time period.
    Make the comeback PL. Let's see you in MK1.

    • @CineGoodog
      @CineGoodog 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      this, the ego is strong on PL.

  • @snoogcity
    @snoogcity 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    PL is a legend and good for Tom to have Carl a chance to talk behind the scene. The NRS scene is probably the most cruel of all the FGC scenes.

    • @PewPewShootEmUp
      @PewPewShootEmUp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Has the strongest meme community that why

  • @ndshreddermn
    @ndshreddermn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Getting top places in multiple fighting games is damn impressive for sure. Most people are only really good at one, maybe 2 fighting games at the highest tournament level.

  • @HalcyonEX
    @HalcyonEX 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    You ever gonna stream mk1 subzero gameplay on youtube? Would love to learn more about sub by watching you your the GOAT!!!

    • @koolduck_249
      @koolduck_249 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *You're

    • @lekanosagie
      @lekanosagie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He streams on Twitch all the time

    • @CameronDC-Grimes
      @CameronDC-Grimes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pretty Sure PL only uses Kung Lao mainly. I didn't even know he played Sub Zero and Sub is so low tier with fundamental flaws, not sure he wants to risk money on a ton of bad matchups

    • @HalcyonEX
      @HalcyonEX 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@CameronDC-Grimes I was talking about real mk Tom Brady ya know since he got famous using subzero hahahaha

    • @HalcyonEX
      @HalcyonEX 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@koolduck_249k'iss M'y A'ss

  • @opssoldier3316
    @opssoldier3316 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    PL is cool. I remember meeting him at EVO. He remembered who I was, that was enough for me to be a big fan of him. Hope he continues to get accomplishments throughout his fighting game career.

  • @CineGoodog
    @CineGoodog 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    10-0 "It was the character"
    13-0 "I am tired"
    Every time a different excuse, just admit it you got outplayed in every way. The atitude is the problem, if he dropped that everyone would already have forgot the 13-0.

  • @skoomagohard2789
    @skoomagohard2789 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    in summary: perfect 13gend is no more and is still salty and fully developed his excuses

  • @Leo-xn8ti
    @Leo-xn8ti 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The real problem is that PL didn't take his L gracefully. PL was upset that he got destroyed in a 10-0 and thought he can soften the blows by challenging Sonic's Erron Black and it did not turned out the way he expected.
    Edit: I'm sure the people who replied or are going to reply are going to look for some small details to defend PL. Ok. The guy has not been relevant since he lost and making a 50 min video is not helping. PL need a redemption arc, not a science class on MKX

    • @joshuaadams5295
      @joshuaadams5295 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He did not challenge him though after the 10-0. All he said was he stated previously at some point before the event that he could beat Sonic's Erron. Then as soon as he said that the one guy rushed the stage took the mic and proposed the bo5 vs Erron. IDK I think it just got a little out of control and people took it to the extreme but that's what the internet does.

    • @Leo-xn8ti
      @Leo-xn8ti 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@joshuaadams5295 13-0, 10-0, however you you want to look at it it is a bad look for PL. Guy didn't get a single win and he is a EVO champion.

    • @Leo-xn8ti
      @Leo-xn8ti 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joshuaadams5295 13-0, 10-0, however you you want to look at it it is a bad look for PL. Guy didn't get a single win and he is a EVO champion.

    • @joshuaadams5295
      @joshuaadams5295 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Leo-xn8ti I agree he should have won some and I think he would have got a game or more in a first to 10 against Erron. I also think Mkx was the start of the end of PL reign, and he slowly declined as a player and never achieved results like his earlier years after the 13-0. I also think Sonic is probably the best fighting game player of all time. For sure top 5 and he has a lot of years left in the tank.

    • @kingj521
      @kingj521 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Leo-xn8ti so its you job to continuously hold that moment over his head? thats kinda punching down when this dude been a humble guy. people have salty moments.

  • @Twelvegoldteeth
    @Twelvegoldteeth 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I respect Brady for trying to keep PL on track but PL, after all these years, still shows no humility in retrospect.
    I genuinely thought this would be a new perspective on the incident but now, I believe this podcast is for “new” people hearing about the 13-0 because everything PL is saying now is exactly what he was saying then.
    The way it’s being sold now is PL was 1 or 2 issues away from avoiding the 13-0 which I believe is NOT true. SF was training to embarrass PL the entire time. No matter how many of PL’s grievances were resolved beforehand, SF’s plan was always to embarrass and not be competitive at all.

  • @just_2swift
    @just_2swift 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great podcast with one of the Pillars of the MK community. Big ups to PL giving the exclusive back story to the entire situation.

    • @just_2swift
      @just_2swift 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @Coqui-FJ hop off the sack.

  • @Leo-xn8ti
    @Leo-xn8ti 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The real problem is that PL didn't take his L gracefully. PL was upset that he got destroyed in a 10-0 and thought he can soften the blows by challenging Sonic's Erron Black and it did not turned out the way he expected.

    • @dirtyschoolclothes7260
      @dirtyschoolclothes7260 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      In a nutshell , can't take away PL accomplishments because once you do them then it's already in the books but the way he telling the story is like he was this super innocent bystander , he was talking heavy as hell and got smoked ...then talked heavy again after that and made it worse we all know the story.

    • @Alex_Logan22
      @Alex_Logan22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea Sonic already had 10 games to get a feel for his tendencies, it was a mistake.

    • @Leo-xn8ti
      @Leo-xn8ti 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@dirtyschoolclothes7260 no one taking away his accomplishments, but going 13-0 in a ft10 is a bad image. Evo champ or not. Even in this video PL needs FIFTY minutes to downplay his big L. He would had been better off If he just said, "yeah, I lost" and left it at that. Also, it doesn't help when PL has not been relevant since the 13-0.

  • @Alex_Logan22
    @Alex_Logan22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I didn’t get as much insight as I was looking for into why he accepted the first to 3 run back and reflection/humility on that 3-0 specifically. I get the Kitana thing but I’m not sure if he’s ever given props to Sonic for winning that 2nd set, a big part of the narrative/campaign was the arrogance, which wouldn’t had been weaponized if he had just shown a little Sportsmanship at the time for the second set.

    • @jondiaz3329
      @jondiaz3329 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kinda sounds like at least part of the problem were the people surrounding the sets feeding the fire. Probably could've handled it better as well but 9 years of this being your legacy when you have a resume like PL has is insane. The community really seems to hold a grudge for a long time.

    • @Alex_Logan22
      @Alex_Logan22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jondiaz3329
      Its not the community, no one talks about it, PL just hasn't done anything relevant enough to be worth discussing in general. No commentator is gonna bring it up if PL shows up. And he fed into the fire at the time as much as anyone, it wouldn't had ever been much of a story if he had humility.

    • @jondiaz3329
      @jondiaz3329 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Alex_Logan22 I can say, I didn't get into fighting games until Injustice 2 and didn't even know who PL was until a year or two afterward. My introduction to him was that set. That's all I knew him for until I actually went to his twitch stream and hung out in the chat every now and again.
      My friends who were into fighting games way before me would say "F that guy" w/e I brought up something I'd seen on his stream or that I took some advice or info from his stream because of that beef set. So idk, I've only been into fighting games for like 7 years, but in that 7 years I've seen the guy get a lot of hate.

  • @paulncnightmare
    @paulncnightmare 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Back in like 2006 or 2007 I was at a little LAN thing in NYC playing I wanna say some DOA game. Me and this other guy were running sets and PL decided that it was time to start the tourney. So instead of asking us to wrap it up he came over and just shut the Xbox off while we were playing. I wound up slapping the shit out of him and getting kicked out.

    • @Alex_Logan22
      @Alex_Logan22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol

    • @DerriereConnoisseur
      @DerriereConnoisseur 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ve done a similar thing in the navy when a dude took out the movie everyone was watching from the dvd player just cause he wanted to watch something else lmao

  • @ProHunter_invencivel1
    @ProHunter_invencivel1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "No bullsh*t I will beat all of y'all in this game" 😒 that kind of talk again. Sticking glue to your feet once again that will be even harder to remove if you find out live together alongside millions that you couldn't walk the talk.

  • @MaskedGuyCh
    @MaskedGuyCh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    9:44 This logic makes no sense bro. If you wanted to prove the character is stupid why not pick her and win everything with her? Or at least beat sonic with her?
    No disrespect to PL, I just don't think it makes sense to complain about your opponent's character when you could pick the same character and prove that you're the better player.

  • @merzhoykin
    @merzhoykin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ohh ohhhh so that's what this is about... ok. Seems like Tom has a lot of free time on his hands.

  • @likenoother6561
    @likenoother6561 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Talk shit get hit is all im saying. He shouldnt have talked shit if he couldnt back it up lol if he lost just the FT10 whatever but he shouldnt have went on to challenge him again with Erron. That being said i do think he is a victim of online bullying although his twitter posts do not help. No hate to PL he had his accomplishments but he really just needs to show and not tell moving forward thats the only way he will get his respect back unfortunately

  • @nonfinale685
    @nonfinale685 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Its just crazy to me that PL will say "ppl sit in the mediocre chair and not back what they say up" and then say "hes a month ahead of everybody." While having a total of 0 top 8 or top 16 placements in mk1. Respect to him. He's an og. But mk9 is long gone, and so is 13-0, but PL act like mk9 is yesterday and makes 13-0 feel fresh. He just doesnt have humility.

  • @skoomagohard2789
    @skoomagohard2789 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    he's still just full of pride it seems like dancing around the truth

  • @suavevision4678
    @suavevision4678 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I respect PL and I was rooting for him against sonicfox. However I think it's his ego that is causing people to lose respect. After a loss like that you gotta humble yourself and come back and show every that you're him. He lost and still had an ego and now still has an ego by literally saying he'd dog everyone in mk1 now without taking the time to come back and prove himself.
    He spent a lot of the video playing the victim when he could've took accountability and spoke about how to take an L and not let it affect you or how it does affect you. He said he didn't have an opportunity to say good games and give him props but instead of having humility he reesorto excuses. Even in this video. Everything is about everyone being against you. This video could've been an eye opening and teachable moment for the community but I feel we saw the same ego.

  • @ThisIsEduardo
    @ThisIsEduardo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video MK Tom Brady! I looked up to Perfect Legend back in the day. He influenced me to pick Kung Lao in MK 9 !❤✊

  • @MyAuraMyEraMyMe
    @MyAuraMyEraMyMe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Sonic is a NRS gatekeeper, PL went against him and got blackballed,

    • @arjunratnadev
      @arjunratnadev 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      is Sonic or for that matter any MK pros beating any of the big pros in SF community?

    • @PewPewShootEmUp
      @PewPewShootEmUp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@arjunratnadevI feel like Sonic Ninja and Rewind could hang if they learned the game, I don't think they would like the game tho

    • @aot9199
      @aot9199 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Sonic wasn't the nrs bid dog when that set happen..Y'all must have forgotten how PL was back then..he just got humbled
      Feel like sonic is going down the same path and might get the same treatment

    • @Shzzaam
      @Shzzaam 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@arjunratnadev WTF would that have to do with literally anything???? How does them not playing a completely different game factor into this at all.

    • @marentes310
      @marentes310 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@aot9199wym? Sonic had won Evo for injustice and came in hot into MKX too. He was a menace for pretty much its whole competitive life. Pretty sure at this set’s time he was in fact the top NRS dog at the time.

  • @FAM0US-M0NSTERS-
    @FAM0US-M0NSTERS- 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    PL does get a bad rap. Ask anyone who he is, he's the guy who lost 13-0 in a first to 10. Those of us who have been around for a while know you're a champ bro.

    • @Alex_Logan22
      @Alex_Logan22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      “How do you lose 13 matches in a first to 10?”
      People legitimately not realizing there was a second set.

  • @enokdnb7388
    @enokdnb7388 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just truly want the run button back. I always felt that after MK3 , it was just a mainstay in my head. It just felt right.

  • @ImmortalReaver
    @ImmortalReaver 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    PL was only winning when kung lao was broken. Thats why 2/3 of his wins were MK9 and he got demolished in MKX and was irrelevant from there on out. Shining example of how broken KL was.

    • @magicmamba915
      @magicmamba915 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      KL was even not in top 5 of mk9 dude

    • @guaroguarino
      @guaroguarino 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@magicmamba915 yes, he was top 5 alongside Sonya, Kabal, Kenshi and Freddy.

    • @magicmamba915
      @magicmamba915 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@guaroguarino Cyrax was better, Jax was better

    • @magicmamba915
      @magicmamba915 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@guaroguarino JC was better

    • @just_2swift
      @just_2swift 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lao wasn't even the best character lol

  • @SketchCarellz
    @SketchCarellz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It’s weird because if you were watching fighting game tournaments before the PL/Sonic Fox exhibition, you already knew how big of a name he was. To NRS games, he was Sonic Fox before Sonic Fox. He seemingly dominated at the very least MK9. That’s not even counting all of the DoA stuff he has accomplished. Consequently, he is also a really good Tekken player. I remember watching the 13-0 and it being a thing, but I didn’t think it took as much away from PL as it wound up being. I think the faction of the FGC’s troll mentality has really pushed this to overshadow PL’s accomplishments.

  • @mp4c12winning
    @mp4c12winning 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    PL talked mad smack on an actual child, mind you, when sonic first came on the scene. PL called sonic random and said he had no fundamentals in mk9 and injustice very loudly. Then sonic called his ass out and dog walked him. People discredit PL because of his own attitude and actions. Show up PL or shut up!

    • @just_2swift
      @just_2swift 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Have you played in the arcade back in the day? You heard much worse lmao 😂 soft era we're in.

    • @mp4c12winning
      @mp4c12winning 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@just_2swiftI mentioned him talking smack because he conveniently left that part of the story out…

    • @just_2swift
      @just_2swift 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@mp4c12winning he did mention it. He said they talked smack back and forth... Banter in mk9 he clearly mentioned it..

    • @mp4c12winning
      @mp4c12winning 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@just_2swift pl was trying to discredit an up and coming player, it wasn’t just talking smack. it was an inside joke bck on the Justintv days that sonic had no fundamentals. You would hear it on commentary all the time and he started that shit. Yah he glossed over that. But it doesn’t really matter, PL pissed away any good will he had and now he’s a joke. And he did it to himself.

    • @aot9199
      @aot9199 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Exactly dude always playing a victim

  • @milkman6685
    @milkman6685 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Watching mkx makes me question why they removed being able to grab to end your combos like there is no reason to remove this and it means if a character doesn't have combo ending brutality you could finish the combo with a grab

  • @XboxIsSoft
    @XboxIsSoft 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Perfect legend kinda defensive lol

  • @youngdresbaby
    @youngdresbaby 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    As someone who follows both players closely at that time and have great respect for both their abilities and also not a fan of both of them personally, I can say for a fact PL is telling nothing but the facts. Kitana received crazy buffs, Sonic controlled the narrative of what PL was limited and character locked to, and the community is overly ass kissing if they can't accept that truth til this day. Hes also still placing in multiple games like he said and still gets bullied.
    It's actually insane how idiotic the community is about this situation.

    • @jayfrancelf
      @jayfrancelf 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Keep it 100…He probably would’ve gotten 10-0’d vs Erron Black too

    • @youngdresbaby
      @youngdresbaby 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @jayfrancelf
      Idk. Erron was less broken than kitana at the moment they played that set. I see the Lao v Erron match up even on 6 to 4 in Erron favor. But Kitana v Lao no matter Lao variation against her was definitely 7 to 3 or better.
      My bad on the last response I deleted if you had saw it. I read it wrong and thought you were saying I've probably been beat by Erron 10-0.

    • @KazeShikamaru
      @KazeShikamaru 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's kind of crazy how Sonicfox pretty led harassment/bullying campaign that went on for years and has never said sorry about it.

    • @PewPewShootEmUp
      @PewPewShootEmUp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@KazeShikamaru it's strange that we blame dude just talking shit like he always does, for everyone else being harassing weirdos

    • @DerriereConnoisseur
      @DerriereConnoisseur 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sonic just has a ton of 🍆 riders, he always has.

  • @Veteran_Spartan
    @Veteran_Spartan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dude PL is on some heavy ass copium. He wonders why people hate him yet he has an excuse for everything. Dude got completely washed 10-0, runs his mouth on stage saying "oh well i was supposed to fight EB" then proceeds to get washed again. You were like "oh ill only gonto EVO or Combo Breaker" then make excuses near the end why you wont go. For the record you duck fights for days. Ive thrown a gauntlet to money patch PL multiple times and he always has some excuse.

  • @jondiaz3329
    @jondiaz3329 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any chance of getting PL on a podcast episode to just talk about the game w/ the rest of the crew?

  • @hanzobi1926
    @hanzobi1926 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone know what happened to Reo?

  • @ImmortalReaver
    @ImmortalReaver 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Let's see another FT13 on MK1. Lao VS Kitana

  • @cosmic_tkb
    @cosmic_tkb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    PL has always been a very good player, and anyone who’s been in the FGC a while knows this. His problem is that he’s an incredibly sore loser and tends to make excuses for his losses. His ego is also really off-putting.

  • @zoggyblack4046
    @zoggyblack4046 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a fan of the fgc since 2011 I’ve always personally felt for PL they.. Tom and PL are pioneers in this community and I appreciate the OG’s because I’ve always dreamed of the fgc being this big.. Thanks for giving PL a platform to tell his story it’s not easy when the crowd turns against you and forget about everything respectable that you’ve done because it’s the popular thing to do..

  • @mrAPchem
    @mrAPchem 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You cannot talk about the OGs of the MK competitive scene without mentioning PL. It was a huge deal when he won the 2 EVOs for MK9, as well as when REO eliminated him in MK9 2013.
    And then on top of this, PL never stopped playing MK games after MK9 and MKX and placed in numerous tournaments. He is a forefather of the MK competitive scenes much like Tom Brady, Pig of The Hut and dozens of other players, some of whom now work for NRS.
    PL's confidence is interpreted as arrogance, which rubs people the wrong way, but it doesn't take away his inherent skill or his acheivements.
    This was an excellent podcast. We need more of these for more MK9 OG players.

    • @Alex_Logan22
      @Alex_Logan22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I remember him reserving tech for that second EVO win lol, but yea doesn’t take anything away IMO. I do kinda agree with the argument though of just how vastly different/harder the playing field is now compared to then, especially compared to DOA4 which I can see why people overlook/disregard.

    • @guaroguarino
      @guaroguarino 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      REO beating Carl at EVO 2013 wasn't really that big when everyone knew how good REO was. Even at EVO 2012, it was a very close match. Also, REO was always considered the best MK9 player and it was said countless times that PL just ducked him over and over. Did you forget that REO was at some point called "The Daigo of MK"?
      But most importantly, the biggest story of EVO 2013 was PL getting out of the hospital the day before and still reaching top 8. That itself was a great accomplishment that can only be topped by Arslan's EVO Japan run after days of no sleep and airport hell.
      Also, PL didn't place in "numerous" tournaments in MKX, but just 1 which was BAM7 (2 if you count ESL that was an invitational). The only OGs that did great past IGAU were the Terry bros and f0xy. Nowadays it's just f0xy. Tom got washed in IGAU, Pig couldn't do well without OP zoning past 2014, PL never got a single top 8 despite competing in MKX, IJ2 and MK11. REO got washed in MKX but basically quit...and it goes on and on. In other games you still have the OGs keeping up with the new generations, why is that not a thing with MK? Was the competition level too low back then? MK server trash was right all along by calling REO a big fish in a very small pond?

    • @Alex_Logan22
      @Alex_Logan22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@guaroguarino
      Yea I definitely wouldn't put OGs like PL in the same League as all time greats.

  • @JimmiePitts
    @JimmiePitts 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This is 2nd time I'm.hearing him rattle off a laundry list of excuses. He did this on chris g podcast as well. This is just painful to listen to. I wish he was able to own this lose more than just trying to find a way out of it with excuse after excuse. He would do better to just get good placements now because honestly man nobody is looking back at 2010 to give you props for today. I'm not trying to hate I just wish he would stop listing sad excuses and show up to tourneys today and try and earn his good name back, without that he is honestly the one who let's the lose define him

    • @just_2swift
      @just_2swift 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      So owning up to what happened doesn't count as owning up to what happened till he shows up to a major?
      Bruh the sht y'all say be wild 😂

    • @JimmiePitts
      @JimmiePitts 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@just_2swift he had 1000 disclaimers before any owning up to anything what are you talking about! Kitana was buffed, I wasn't even playing the game, cmooon dude selective listening. He had even more excuses over on chris g podcast. And yea clearly he has to earn his name back if people are still hating him I'm not saying for my sake I'm saying for his but whatever

    • @just_2swift
      @just_2swift 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@JimmiePitts Wait wait wait... So he DID own up to it then? 😂 Man this is hilarious! You have to admit this is some remedial sht you know that right?

    • @just_2swift
      @just_2swift 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @Coqui-FJ I'm not defending anyone I'm bringing actual facts and questions to the table. Meanwhile you need cue cards /flash cards to get through life.

  • @thomaskopv2366
    @thomaskopv2366 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wouldve liked to know how PL feels about Sonic now, and if theyve made their peace.

  • @baritone90
    @baritone90 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    He shouldn’t have continued to play. His ego got him 13-0d. Cry to someone else bro.

  • @guaroguarino
    @guaroguarino 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    PL was the real goat back in the day but it's been almost 10 years since his last top 8. Don't think he ever recovered from that 13-0.
    It's a bit sad to see that besides f0xy, none of the former MK gods could keep up with the new players since MKX dropped.

  • @JH70778
    @JH70778 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I been around since mk1 arcade days old as f now loved PL and wish him the best.I watch his TH-cam videos nothing but respect for what he has done.

  • @G_Elektrik
    @G_Elektrik 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It looks like still a burden for him, and is not about the loss itself, this thing became relevant because Sonicfox proved that is about skill in the end, not character stats or whatever you think is right, here he even validate the concept by talking about MK1 and scorpion, so there is nothing "unfair" about the whole thing

  • @nickmarkins6746
    @nickmarkins6746 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great podcast and discussion I'm a big fan of both of you thanks Tom Brady

  • @intellectic9155
    @intellectic9155 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He got washed and embarrassed by a weirdo. That's pretty much the long and short of it.

  • @JustinKeithD
    @JustinKeithD 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My buddy who is entirely new to MK1 got matched up against PL in kombat league the other day and I was so jealous. He had no idea who he was.

  • @JW20084
    @JW20084 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The sonic fox meat riders. I thought they were all non existent until MKX😂 never seen so many grown men defending a grown man like that. I support you PL.

  • @FightAllThyEnemies
    @FightAllThyEnemies 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wasn't SonicHoax doped up on Adderall? Hasn't this been a huge talking issue in regards to esports and people using drugs to improve reaction times, performance etc?

    • @Alex_Logan22
      @Alex_Logan22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember reading about this once, but never saw much traction for it, so I’m not sure if it’s considered fair play professionally and the article I read just being a hit piece, or if people really don’t know about it.

    • @magicmamba915
      @magicmamba915 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sonic fox has ADHD, we need our medication to function normally just other neurotypicals. Id you think Adderall gives him advantage you completely don't understand what ADHD is, and Adderall don't boost performance of neurotypicals.

    • @castelgelin
      @castelgelin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have ADHD and Adderall definitely gives me advantage over others when I'm on it I stopped using it because it makes me a tyrant.

    • @Alex_Logan22
      @Alex_Logan22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@magicmamba915
      Sounds like it was a random hit-piece then looking to discredit Sonic.

  • @Crazy_Ktulu_88
    @Crazy_Ktulu_88 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    PL was one of my favorite competitors back in the day. Much love and respect to him!

  • @WarGod_PsyCo
    @WarGod_PsyCo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I remember when this beef set took place back in the day and I was rooting for PL but Sonic was just on his A game in that moment. It was so messed up to see how bias most of the FGC was towards this set clowning PL and fanboying for Sonic. Even how disrespectful and cocky Sonic was before and after the set.
    It would be cool to see PL enter Combo Breaker and Evo for MK1 but the mental wear and tear from the harassment, memes and negativity that he has endured, I could understand if he passed on playing MK games competitively at majors. That would be sick if he won Grand Finals in MK1, it would easily overshadow that 13-0 moment.

  • @Nbreeniverse
    @Nbreeniverse 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bro still has the OS 9 years later lmfao

  • @Dmitchell579
    @Dmitchell579 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Lets support PL

    • @PerfectLegend
      @PerfectLegend 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      🤜🏾 ayyyy

  • @Jmaurice82
    @Jmaurice82 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Jesus christ PL is still making excuses still after 10 years later. You talked bad about sonic fox and other players in the community and it came back to bite you. Word on the street your still talking bad about players and Sonic still. All you had to do was say GGs after the set then that was it. You want people to stop bringing it up but you are still talking about it playing victim. You don't see Sonic still bringing it up. Get therapy dude.

    • @reallyknot6148
      @reallyknot6148 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Damn it's been 10 years!?!?! Maybe he will stop at 13... lololololol

  • @717BOOM
    @717BOOM 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All Pl needs to come back. is a top 8 at a major tournament.

  • @LastPrimeGaming
    @LastPrimeGaming 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m glad you you gave him a place to talk. Folks gotta let this go and not hold old losses to future games

  • @jaywalker3553
    @jaywalker3553 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yall might think I’m crazy but why does MK9 graphics and models look better than MKX 😅🧐🧐🧐🤔

    • @Alex_Logan22
      @Alex_Logan22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Colors, basically

  • @just_2swift
    @just_2swift 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Man look how awesome kung lao was! 😮 Each game after mk9 he gets gutted. Talk about shell of your former self as a character

    • @mayfield0707961
      @mayfield0707961 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Huh 🤔 how is MKX and MK1 Lao gutted? Everyone was gutted in 11 so that makes sense

    • @MaskedGuyCh
      @MaskedGuyCh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I feel that way about Kitana, she had the most fun combos in MK9 and MKX, especially MKX where she peaked. After that her gameplay was gutted.

    • @just_2swift
      @just_2swift 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      MKX he teleport was changed, dive kick was altered to stop "Bird lao" by adding more tracking for example dive kick to get out the Corner doesn't work as it did in mk9
      Mk11 needs no explanation.... So does mk1

    • @just_2swift
      @just_2swift 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MaskedGuyChyeppers

  • @Luis-gv2vp
    @Luis-gv2vp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    99% of players couldn't beat SF! Lol and 100% of people making fun of PL would never ever be able to lol

  • @LordCrimson78
    @LordCrimson78 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mark Hamel will always be Luke SkyWalker and Perfect Legend will always be…… that’s life huh.

  • @mrigotbass
    @mrigotbass 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    PL I hate to say it bud but at this point your either going to have to put hands on someone and slap the taste out of their mouths or just be a casual player. I am never one for violence but man, its like the passive aggressive disrespect from the Gen-Der Benders have more or less made u look like a 403 bro. If u want any getback your gonna have to smack the living ish out of the dude sonic fox irl.

    • @lekanosagie
      @lekanosagie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lmaaaao mans is advocating violence 😭😭

    • @blaznpookie
      @blaznpookie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Getting violent over a video game. Are you listening to yourself? Lmao

    • @hands-ongaming7180
      @hands-ongaming7180 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why? It’s sonics weirdo fans who never show up to anything offline talking smack safely behind their keyboard.

    • @hands-ongaming7180
      @hands-ongaming7180 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@blaznpookiefr

    • @KazeShikamaru
      @KazeShikamaru 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can't believe someone is suggesting a real fight. LOL! What the hell?@@hands-ongaming7180

  • @m3sneakerhead465
    @m3sneakerhead465 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    PL’s name is immortalized forever in that rap song in the credits of MK1!

  • @diegomariguin
    @diegomariguin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He was thinking about mkx was similar to mk9

  • @shihabmalek3780
    @shihabmalek3780 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I had no idea he lost his sponsor over that set. That is really horrible

  • @rubberbandclan1017
    @rubberbandclan1017 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Respectfully PL if you know he was going to play a broken katana you shouldn’t have played him should been Aaron black vs Lao

    • @PerfectLegend
      @PerfectLegend 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Since you know everything. Sonic challenged me but wouldn’t agree to play unless it was with kitana. I agree since he wanted to be wack about it especially now. But why don’t y’all ever have these comments for sonic “why don’t you give him a runback” “why didnt you use erron from the start” “why did you only play pl in a match that heavily favors you”

    • @rubberbandclan1017
      @rubberbandclan1017 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@PerfectLegend PL you taking the wrong way I rock with you brother read my other comments below it’s like 3 of them I just saying if you knew all that you should of had said hell no that’s all

  • @caracal82
    @caracal82 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very interesting. I knew Perfect Legend to be one of the top 5 players. I have never heard about that 13-0 thing. Cudos for casting some light on it

  • @peterk3556
    @peterk3556 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To be fair Sonicfox was the best fighting game player when it comes to dominance in mkx
    He flawlessed his way through Tournaments the thing is he did not use his main against perfect legend but its sonicfox everyone got destroyed by him

    • @guaroguarino
      @guaroguarino 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      PL never got a top 8 in MKX besides week one tourney with no competition in Australia. So it's not just Sonic, he lost to everyone while DJT was still getting 2nd places and winning tournaments over Sonicfox (CEO 2015). For PL, people like ForeverKing, MIT, REO...were all lesser players than him yet accomplished tons more after MK9 than he ever did.

  • @asdfdc1946
    @asdfdc1946 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:13 Perfect 13gend

  • @TYMGhosT
    @TYMGhosT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn I can’t believe it’s been this long. I have perspective that wasn’t covered. When this happened I remember the nrs community was also in the middle of a changing of the guard so to speak. Well not so much that but there was a younger generation coming on and to me that played in sonics favor, your PL, you were the champ and also very confident and even cocky. It was the perfect storm. With that said I still can’t believe it went that long. The others that said you should try and play mk1 offline are right, if you place well in the new game it would practically erase this.

    • @Alex_Logan22
      @Alex_Logan22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or Street Fighter 6, which some NRS players have been playing too. Placing well in SF6 speaks higher volumes.

  • @rodnie3903
    @rodnie3903 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    PL's ego is godlike

  • @vX_STREETS_Xv
    @vX_STREETS_Xv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lol I was happy to just take a round off Carl (PL) in mk 9 in a casual. Love your content Tom and always have had love for PL since the first time I met him. I wish nothing but the best for both of u guys.

  • @kingj521
    @kingj521 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Listening to this makes me feels Old. the moment Tom mentioned WCG. i remember seeing perfect play that on the sci-fi channel or what ever the heck they broadcasted it on in nyc. i couldnt believe i was watching a competitive gaming event on t.v. [being a Melee player at the time]

  • @vX_STREETS_Xv
    @vX_STREETS_Xv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would also like to say that PL is a fantastic human, he's always been nice and humble, helpful, just a genuinely good person. I was a nobody in mk9 and he would play games with me and help me grow, we use to go to a venue called coco and he even came to some get togethers we had just to help us practice. People should definitely not give the dude any hate.

  • @kokujinblack77
    @kokujinblack77 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This 13 -0 stuff is old news.

  • @ChodeSlay
    @ChodeSlay 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Shouts out to PL. He is the person who I’m cheering for the most. I want him to silence all the fools.

  • @Cat_90S
    @Cat_90S หลายเดือนก่อน

    He should have never challenged Sonic for that FT10. It was clear who was the better player in MKX. He should have leveled up before that. I feel like his Kung Lao in MKX was played wrongly. I felt like he just refused to see the character for what it was and couldn’t play the character on Foxy’s level. Tempest Kung Lao was a safe character that didn’t need to take risks much. PL likes to play risky, kung lao just wasnt his character in mkx.

  • @wills5481
    @wills5481 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There will always be haters on the internet but you have to consider who it is behind the keyboard. Most ppl would get 13-0 by sonic. Just stay humble and keep grinding. Kill the haters with kindness. Buff scorpion. Every character can be “good” in this game but when half the cast has every tool and good synergies I would just like some of my favorite characters to be shown some love.

    • @KaixaDrome
      @KaixaDrome 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      lao hat into ex air teleport it catches everyone and you can change timing to be overhead/low or low/overhead

  • @batboythecool
    @batboythecool 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    W guest and podcast

  • @maforo85
    @maforo85 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its ok to lose and get completely destroyed by SonicFox. Mostly everyone loses to him.

  • @maskoftiers77788
    @maskoftiers77788 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing video as always i never knew that even the sponsors dropped you @perfectlegend im sorry too hear you went through that great see you return on mk1 and i dont think players at the highest level get any credit as far as fhe investment of travel,time etc. It was great hearing from your perspective. I'm going to be joining the online scene soon hope to run into you online 1 day keep playing and having fun. Great interview

  • @hwoarang675
    @hwoarang675 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Perfect legend and tom brady are both legends and true og. I honestly felt bad what happen to perfect legend. He got set up bad. And people gonna disregard a 3 time evo champion? Kind of crazy. So toxic. PL never deserved this

  • @Nmitchellediting
    @Nmitchellediting 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    maybe if PL didn't project no one would hate him for his passive aggressive attitude towards a gay black man

    • @PerfectLegend
      @PerfectLegend 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Of course some buffoon is adding identity politics in a place that it doesn’t need to be. Let me guess since I’m a straight black man it’s okay for me to be harassed for years? Glad we cleared that up.

    • @KazeShikamaru
      @KazeShikamaru 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He doesn't project though. He has tried moving on but people kept bring this shit up to a point randoms and trolls think they can beat him.

  • @tanzolo4487
    @tanzolo4487 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This should hit the algorithm

  • @jlaw12204
    @jlaw12204 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I never knew PL lost to Sonic 13 0 . Idc i still dont like sonic. I respect he's good thats it.

  • @tanzolo4487
    @tanzolo4487 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can tell the pain in PL’s voice when he talks about it. Bro just thrived in a time period in wich memes weren’t a common thing. Nowadays when you’re embarrassed like that online, your life is over. It’s sad. I’m sonicfox fan like most nrs players out there. But enough is enough. PL already got the karma backfiring. It’s at a point were it’s like he said; calling the fat kid fat. It’s straight up bullying. The ONLY way I see this being reaolved is if you top 8 Evo or win a major in an NRS game or something. Wich is sad, because I did see what you accomplished before as well as what you did for these online tournaments after. Even worse is most people commenting shit on your videos, would get 13-0’d by you any day of the week. But my man: you need to perform on the big stage. Pull a Vegeta on their ass and prove them wrong by redeeming yourself that way. It’s sad you have no other option but I feel like that is it. People love to point their finger and say that’s the bad guy. It’s what it is. Let’s be real here. Fighting games are damn hard. And with that perspective you’re still a damn good fighting game player. Not even Sonic could deny that. Even if he’s way better or whatever. I’m sure you learned from your mistakes and you got humbled. Let that be the end of it. Keep doing what you enjoy.

  • @DaPhenomAce
    @DaPhenomAce 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    About to go sub to PL. Hopefully he does some MK1 online tourney runs

  • @Guts_Sins
    @Guts_Sins 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At the end of the day, at least carls not a furry.

  • @ChrisYoungGunn
    @ChrisYoungGunn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SonicCox been a cornball as well as his fans and 90% of the fgc for that matter

  • @JW-vl5or
    @JW-vl5or 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brady bring some other old school MK9 heads on to talk money matches. You're a damn good interviewer.

  • @lifewithalbinism
    @lifewithalbinism 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bruh no one is still talking about the 13-0. There's so much better things you could have talked to perfect legend about

  • @lazyalpaca556
    @lazyalpaca556 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like PL and people go with what the internet says like Tom said most people didn’t even kno about his achievements if I was him I wouldn’t care what people thought either and getting high levels match ups does matter I believe everyone was dodging him and I could see sonic gettin what he wants cause anyone would want to play him

  • @F1rsttimer
    @F1rsttimer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The classic SonicFox trope where he switches to the most broken character didn't happen this time because he already started with Kitana.

    • @just_2swift
      @just_2swift 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope kitana got 3 pages of buffs kung lao wasn't good then. The only variation was buzz saw. Tempest and hat trick had major issues and got buffed later

  • @NinjaSpicoli
    @NinjaSpicoli 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i don’t care what anyone says Perfect Legend should be on the MOUNT RUSHMORE for MORTAL KOMBAT! MID-WEST STAND UP

  • @kunklorddave6916
    @kunklorddave6916 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In all reality tho, from sonic Fox beat him, his career gets poor and people start lose ratings. In other words notn much not going on for him. Just facts am not a hater, I'm a fan as well, so

  • @git_blame
    @git_blame 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lmao

  • @Belive7heHype
    @Belive7heHype 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No one deserves to be shit on forever