3 PRO SAWS - STIHL vs. HUSQVARNA vs. ECHO
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- The 3 major chainsaw brands are ECHO, HUSQVARNA and STIHL. Today I run a tank through 3 of the best of each brand and talk about my likes dislikes what is unique about all 3. They all are great saws The Stihl MS 500i is an awesome chainsaw that was hard to get for a while and is still in high demand and has a high price! The Husqvarna 592xp is a powerful screamer that can cut any wood fast that you can find! The ECHO CS 7310P has a 5 year warranty and costs way less than the others! Let's get cutting!
Chris in his natural habitat, chainsaw’s wood chips flying, wood rounds everywhere. Great way to start my day, thanks and keep on cutting.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love it when I get into a pile like that and get the cuts lined up so you can cut down through 4 logs without stopping. It makes wood cutting go so much faster. Those saws were eating up that little stuff. Makes wood cutting even more fun.
Totally agree!
Best saw i ever had is the one thats in my hands , running and cutting !! Have had blue ones, yellow ones, red ones orange ones... you take care of them, they usually do what they're supposed to do... Husky is a little smoother on the vibration... My opinion only after 55 years of cuttin and foolin around with wood
That is a correct and great opinion my good man!
It’s good to see you cutting in the piles again. That is my favorite way to cut.
Mine too! Thanks!
All those logs looked like the perfect size for the 40c processor, almost all looked straight. Awesome video.
Yup, good thing I can get many loads more any time I want!
My paw-in-law runs all Echoes and knows no other brands even though myself and all his tree service sons use Stihl. He’s 82 years old and still making stumps💪. Fun show, Chris, thanks.
Nice! Sounds like a great man!
Great video as always. Please EVERYONE consider running a 30 in. Bar. Stand up & buck. Save your back safer to. Be as comfortable as you can. As always keep your chain sharp. Thanks.
I tried 28"(it was okay) and a 32" bar....WAY to long for me for most cutting.
The 500i is definitely thirsty. Their is nothing wrong with a working chainsaw. It was nice to see some wood pile cutting action. Have a good day chris.
You got that right! She likes to drink...a lot!
You cut alot of wood with these 3 different saws. Each one are good for sure. You put them to the test. You have plenty of energy I got to say. Great video as always. Take care.
Thank you very much!
Great video Chris all them saws cut fast, Nice to see you cutting on piles again
You got that right!
All three look like great saws dont think you can go wrong purchasing any one of em. Nice see ya back to your roots cutting in piles like the early days of channel
You got that right! They are all nice saws!
I went with the Echo. A few hundred $$ less and a 5 year warranty. So far, pretty pleased with it.
Yup, they are great saws!
My go-to saw is my 13 year old MS460. I love it but wouldn't mind trying a 7310. Chris- glad to see you doing well. Wishing you many good days of health and energy
Good choices...thanks for watching!
I've owned mostly Stihl saws but took a chance on an Echo 7310 and I love it! It's a great saw! - Tim
Nice, the price and warranty are awesome in comparison too!
All run great. Stihl has a good strong hold here in the Pacific NW so that's why i run them and the dealer system is awesome too😉👍
Right on!
I loved running that 7310 at the HFH. Smooth cutting saw! I know you can't with that saw but pulling the carb limiters and giving it a carb tune would help. I liked when I ran the 7310 because it just keeps cutting. I think you can put the husky flip caps on the Echo.
Thanks 👍 maybe?? not sure on the size.
For that size wood the 500 really cut good. And it looked easier to handle. That 592 with big pieces really cuts good. Like you said all 3 saw are awesome. Very nice video.
Thanks 👍
You just found the best way to deal with woodyard weeds. That’s right. Saw chips and more saw chips. Well done.
Thanks 👍
Hi Chris, I've been running Husqvarnas for fifty years. Never had a single problem. My old 380CD still runs like a clock. Shalom/gw. PS I was a Husqvarna dealer for eight years. Never had any troubles there either. Only follow up sales were bars, chains and oil. I would require my customers to take my training course before they could buy their saws, professionals were exempted of course, but new, first time users were appearciative.
Thanks for sharing! Great info to hear!
Thanks for the tip on the Echo pull rope handle - didn't know that. I've had all three brands too, but I've been truly satisfied with my Echo 590, as well as the identical one I found on the side of the road. I never have found the owner yet, so I have been putting it to use. It has the 24 inch bar compared to my 20" bar and I find I don't have to bend over as much.
Great to hear! Keep cuttin'!
You ain't lying, homie no cap in urban speak, about chucking rounds. 3 tanks in my 572xp with chucking rounds is all I care to do in a day, with my record being 5 tanks in big wood. Once I fill orders next weekend, I'll be back on the saw myself.
Yup, moving rounds is the hard part!
Great video. I am a mostly Stihl man. Until it comes to their chains. Until you wear one about half out they stretch. The only thing I have found to combat this problem is running a new Stihl chain dull and tight once they get hot they are done stretching. But that is not good for the bar and sprockets. Personally I just use Oregon chains instead. Excellent side by side comparison. Have a great day
Yup, others have said the same thing...thanks for the input!
Great video! Listening to the different saws running, you can tell which one is which manufacture's saw, I've said for a long time now, if it's got orange and a pro saw it's a good saw. I own mostly Stihl, but have purchased both Husqvarna and Echo in the pro series and can't compline about any of them . I do find myself leaning towards my Stihls, but as always, the right tool for the job is where I go as well. My 572XP with a 28" bar is really calling me for bucking in a log pile. The power to weight plus cut speed is almost unmatched in my arsenal of saws.
Yup...all manufactures make great stuff, if they did not they would not be in business.
Thanks Chris. See You Saturday...
Yup, sounds good!
G’morning Chris ! As an owner of all 3 brands,, my favorite one is the sharp one !! My Echo gets used the mostest. Love the torque. Yours needs leaned out a full turn. I loved running your 592. Great episode.
GoodNightIrene.
Morning! Yup, they all cut well!
To be fair, it sounds like the Echo needs a carb adjustment, running too rich. Three great saws!!!
They do that. When I brought mine on the channel, it needed leaned out 1-1/2
Yup, it has not been run much yet maybe 6-7 tanks??
Good morning Chris they all look like cool saws😊
Yup!
Good video Chris, and three good saws. I get tired with the brand thing. When I was firewooding commercially I always had five or six saws in my truck. (all colours) because I was on occasion working sixty or more miles from home. So took them all. Always managed to get the job done even if one or two saws petered out. Found Husky ergonomics suited my style a bit better than 046 sthil.At end of the day sometimes if wood was small I'd finish off the day with an old 3300 Poulan close on 40yrs old now and still runs well. Got to love a saw that starts and runs for that long. Cheers from HB NZ
Yup, my favorite saw is the one that runs good and is sharp!
Another good one. Love these type of videos. You should try a 8 tooth sprocket on that husky, my son put one on his and I put one on my 500. Made a huge difference and didn’t take any power away. It doesn’t scream like it’s gonna blow. And it’s only like 8$.
Thanks for the tip!!
Nice video Chris. I haven’t used my 7310P much yet. Still not fully awake yet. I do like it though and will take it back in for a final tune after another couple of tanks. Dealer is 5 blocks away. Mine has Oregon chain, looks like EXL.
Good choice! That is a nice saw and will last a long time...5 years on the warranty too! The others do not even come close to that.
The 400 is a sweet saw altho I threw and exhaust and foam filter on it from the beginning. Also I heard alot about it not oiling well, an easy fix. I talked my dealer into installing a 460 high flow pump on it at purchase which is supposedly at lowest setting highest setting stock and she’s a gusher! Oils perfectly but it’s a lot, but at that point your about at the price of a 462, but a much smaller easy to handle package
Yup, nice saw, to bad you have to fix a bunch of stuff on a new saw before you can use it.
@@InTheWoodyard I’m sure it would’ve
Been fine running a 25” but for some reason I can’t leave anything alone anymore other than my ol 036 and even that I wanted to build into a hot saw for years
Your experience with the Stihl chains, matches mine. New Stihl chains stretch and become loose.
Interesting!
I have the 7310 and the MS 400 I have a 20 inch bar on the Ms 400
Any thoughts comparing the saws?
Nice saws, I would love to ...I just need to get a 400 to try again and compare!
Good idea!
I know all brands are okay but I wanna go with mainly stihl because especially in Europe echo isn’t seen that much, only a 2511t so it’s mainly choosing between stihl and husqvarna. Then I just trust stihl more after I’ve been ripped off by husqvarna twice on the same saw which came out of its box not properly running.
I would still like to have some husqy saws but after that whole ordeal (which was buying a non functional brand new saw and getting ripped off twice all within about 1 month) I kinda trust stihl waaaay more and once I’m a arborist I’ll probably end up going with a 2511t as climbing saw
Good personal reasons!
I've heard that on the 592xp if your running a 28-inch bar or less, that you should run an 8 pin sprocket. It helps with it not tacking out as bad.
Yup, maybe so. this was NOT the right size wood for that saw! Way to many horses!
I think the rakers needed hit on the 592 chain today also, so it could bite a bit better. It didn't appear to be spitting big pieces and mostly dust.
Chris, you should be a politician. You just walked the brand loyalty tightrope and judging by the comments here it looks like no one is ready to tar and feather you. 😂Probably because you're right though. I have at least one newer version of each of the big three brands and they all work well. It all comes down to what's important to you. Cost, dealer support, power/weight, fuel economy and even aesthetics. It's how some of us end up with way more saws than we need. 😮
Yup, everyone makes great stuff ....if they did not they would not be in business!
In the worldwide market.
ECHO CS1201
is there largest saw.
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They just dont sell it officially in north America.
Its 116cc i believe.
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I sent a link to bert, with a e-bay listing of one.
There available, just no warranty not being in there intended market.
thanks EPA for your help.
Thanks for the info!
@@InTheWoodyard if he forgot, it's on his Facebook account.
In the messages.
See you this Saturday! I've gotten a lot more gray hair since we last met. Yep, making firewood is that stressful!
Is it making firewood that stressful or the daughter?🤔🤣👍
Have a safe drive Jeffrey 😉👍
Yup, I have even less hair!
@@DanielAtkinsFirewood BOTH!
@@InTheWoodyard I didn't think you had any more hair to lose.
Good morning Chris!!😀😀
When cutting in a pile I like a 90cc saw because when you get those small pinches it just powers through them. Were the smaller saws will stall out and you have to come from the other side to finish the cut. But they do get heavy after a while.
The 500i is kind of a gas hog.
But when it comes to that it really doesn't matter to me.
If you want to get a smaller saw ported. Check out Charles Brisco over in lower Michigan. He builds Echo 4910's that will eat 572's for lunch. He can build any saw to scream but yet last day in day out.
He built a Stihl 400 that just blew my mind how fast and strong it is.
Take care my friend!!😀😀💚💚
Logger Al
Yup, bigger is more power but thirstier too! I will try a ported saws some day but I do value my hearing a lot! So.....
@@InTheWoodyard his don't seem that loud compared to other guys.
The boxes looking good too, on the back of the truck, beside the saws😁
Thanks!
I’ve been waiting for this video 👍🏻. Great job.
I don’t like the sound of the Husqvarna. Could be just the video. But the Stihl sounds good. Echo sounds good too, but doesn’t seem to rev the same as the Stihl.
I miss the days of the old wood yard. More updated equipment and product reviews have changed the videos, and that’s fine. Everybody updates.
I build a stand to put in front of the wood pile. It’s slower, but keeps me from standing or falling from the rounds under your feet. And no standing on the pile. So that means the log pile can’t roll and fall on ya. But it’s slower. You have to roll the logs to the stand.
Have a great day. I enjoy the comparison videos. 👍🏻👍🏻👋👋
Thanks...more to come!
Nice workout.
Nice saws
Nice to see you having some fun.
I might do a tank or 2 tomorrow.
Cheers
sincerely
d
Thanks 👍 Yup, saw time is fun time!
Man that 592 is a screamer. Almost need ear plugs with the video. Nice saws Chris.
Yes it is loud on steroids!
The true comparison for the echo would be a 372. Auto tunes rev higher and are always at optimal efficiency.
Yup, true.
So what you are basically saying is that echo will never compare to the 572XP.💩🤡. I luv my 2511 for what it is.👍as well as my Huskies and Stihls.
Nice video showing all three brands. A lot of good bucking 😊
Glad you enjoyed it ...Thanks!
That Echo saw seems to be much slower cutting the rounds than the Husqvarna or Stihl. Is the chain oiler working on the Sthil? The chain should not be getting so lose after the cuts you made. Not advice, just kindly asking.
The Echo is 70cc The Stihl is 80cc and the Husqvarna is 93 cc so yes they are faster. It was oiling fine and others said their 500 always has loose chains to after a full tank so....????
Boy that 7310 needs to wake up, it will be a different saw when it does my 4510 was that way. My Echo dealer told me to run the 32:1 gas mix, because the new saws will not last as long as the old saws
Yup, we only have a few tanks through it so far.
I like Echo, the way the Stihl starts the great.
Yup.
Echo runs like its fresh outta the box
Yup, it is!
The husky and Stihl sounded like they ran clean. The echo sounded like the choke was barely on.
Yup, it is new only a few tanks through it so far.
No 4 stroke in the 500I in small wood. Nice.
It cuts well!
See you Saturday at the firewood frenzy.
Awesome, sounds great!
My wife is German. She constantly tells me, "It is pronounced STEEEEL!" But, to my untrained ear, it sounds like she puts an "h" in there so it sounds like "sHteel". I repeat after her, and say "Shteel" and she says that's not correct. I give up.
Shtick.... Shtomp.... Shtuck...Shteeelll!! That's the way I hear it also!
@@GregPrince-io1cb All I know is, it ain't "Still"! Out here in WV, a still ain't got nothin' to do with chainsaws!
@@reverend_sasquatch583 I hear that.... ain't nothin wrong with a little Clear, Char or Apple Pie!!
My girlfriend is German. She does not seem to think I do anything right, so I'm sure I would pronounce Stihl wrong as well.
Ahh....those swabians.
Being brand loyal sometimes ends up being a trap in my opinion. They're all hammers. Different size, color maybe. All drive nails. Get hydrated!
You are exactly correct! Thanks!
Chris another awesome job in the yard with the big boy saws 😮😊❤
Thanks!
ive always ran echos
Nice stuff!
Nice !Good, great!
Thanks!!!
Good morning are all 3saws stock I like all of them
Yup, good saws!
You can hear the Autotune continually adjusting the 592...almost no load in that small stuff. Too much saw for that, just wasting gas. 500 also 4-strokes in small stuff. Your back, not mine.
Maybe so but....The wood got cut, I had fun , got exercise and thousands of people watched.
Just about all Echo products are made in Illinois with Japan engine
Yup!
Echo has more bang for the bucks !
yup!
sounds like that echo needs some carb work
Maybe or it could be that it has had about 2 tanks through it...it's new.
Kudos on cutting 3 tanks of fuel in the heat!
Thanks for watching!
Should you decide to go the ported saw route much like picking a good saw dealer pick a good Porter who understands what you want out of the port work, race saw ear bleed toy vs woods port. The reason the 592 is so loud is because it is basically an open echo chamber with no baffling whomever you choose to do the port work let them know you do not wish for ear bleed loud and a GOOD builder should address that concern while doing a build.
Yup, my hearing is WAY more important to me that getting peoples attention with a stupid loud saw!
I use sthil as they have a shop close by. oh and it is NOT the 5OOI more money then I have for a saw....
They are proud of the saw for sure...but they do cut!
That saw is horrible on the ears...need to drop those rakers abit...Youre riding on the rev limiter...
Yup, it was, to small of wood, it does much better on the big stuff!
Ment to say weed eaters.
Okay
I own mostly Stihl, due to dealer support. Echo is now at one of the largest lawn dealers in my area. May have to try the 7310. Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day
It is a nice saw....5 year warranty and costs MUCH less!
@@InTheWoodyard with an extra cost of $45 for 3 cans of Husqvarna premix fuel at time of purchase I got a 5yr warranty on my Husky saws, I would not normally buy the premix fuel but as a means of gaining the extra warranty it is probably the least expensive warranty extension. Downside is I now have Husqvarna sending emails trying to get me to extend beyond the 5yr warranty.
I have 3 Echo saws, 490, 501-P and 590 Timberwolf. I love the 2 50 cc, not so much the Timberwolf. I am looking for a 7310. Generally they are great saws.
A friend got a killer dealer demo price on the Echo 7310 and it rips. I was impressed
Good Morning Chris, You sure put in the work on this video, I never ran an Echo saw, The 592xp and 500i, keep me tired😂🪵👍🏼🇺🇸
Morning! Yup, all 3 are great saws!
Thanks for the video, Chris. I am typically a Stihl guy, but just bought a new Husky 572XP with a 28" Light bar. I am in love with it!
Good choice! I has some of them and I do like them a bunch too!
I bought the Stihl 500i due to the hype and I would say I like my Husqvarna’s better. It is a nice saw but it guzzles gas, vibrates more, filter gets dirty fast and the tip is jumpy due to the fuel injection providing to much gas when you just touch the throttle. Still hype to me is what I would say😊
Those are all great points for sure, many others have said the same thing!
@@InTheWoodyard thanks Chris! Have a great day.
Fuel consumption of the 500i was the major complaint in Germany from day one! A lot of people went back to their old equipment because of that. Their gas costs $3-$4 more per gallon than what we pay.
As long as one buys pro models its fine..the consumer homeowner tools are terrible. It should be illegal to sell them..150 200 dollar difference isnt worth buying junk in my opinion..once you add taxes its not far off.here its 9.75 tax..i see to many customers with junk tools i can only try and advise them..just bevause they dont use them much they think that matters just take gas out and store it..re sale value will be at least something compared to homeowner tools..for all day tree service its all about weight .and local dealers..seen a older guy meaning 70 or so trying to get RYOBI weed eater carb covers at the stihl /,husqvarna dealership today while i was buying chains..he just couldnt let go of them.ryobi...😅😮😢😅..my unlce has a pile of them in the yard 😅😮😢..cannot understand it..save few bucks gain years of pain
Yup, some people do not know when it is time to let go of problems because they THINK they are saving a few dollars!
The Echo 7310 sounds like it's running super rich in the cut. It has a lot more in it if dialed in right. The other two saw's electronic carbs never seemed to settle in for light load in small wood.
Maybe so....The wood got cut, to me ...that is all that matters.
Maybe next time you should pick the three worst performing saws from each brand. what you have here is about the three best saws.
Yup, good idea!
Good Morning Woodhounds!(-:
Morning!
Port the 562xp MK 2 or buy and port the stihl 400c
Maybe so??? We will see!
*The stretched chain* could be because Stihl chains and saws are just not up to Chris's power in chain saw use ... then again if the drive sprocket was worn then it's pitch will be longer than that of un-stretched chain so the immense power of the Stihl stretches the chain toward the pitch on the worn drive sprocket. One of these scenarios is more likely, I wonder which, but of course Chris's power in chain saw use will always be legendary.
Time stamped link about sprocket wear and stretching chains below
th-cam.com/video/P0TQHFDFBxg/w-d-xo.html
Cheers all
sincerely
d
Apparently other people have issues with Stihl chains stretching too.
Hi@@InTheWoodyard
Why?
_i.e. What is _*_causing_*_ it, _*_Why_*_ is it happening?_
I've been using Carlton semi chisel ever since I read an Australian that apparently did years of personal testing in Queensland hardwoods. He liked a top plate angle of between 25 and 30 deg but I often get 3 tanks with 35 deg if the wood is clean.
*Now,* when I lose critical sharpness and subconsciously start pushing - that's when I'm likely to *cause* a little chain stretch.
Chain stretch is always caused by forces/temperatures that make it happen. *It's a Stihl chain isn't an explanation just like certain chains stop cutting good about 2/3 or 3/4 through the tooth isn't.*
*Understanding* the 'chain' of causality enables habits that *cause* the chain to remain in tune with the pitch of the drive sprocket. It's just a form of maintenance that maintains a dynamic synchronization between drive sprocket wear and chain. As the pitch of the drive sprocket increases as it wears I think the chain stretches, just a little, in response and this is why many change sprockets and chains at the same time - to maintain that relationship.
I love thinking about this stuff. I'm off to see a farmer and let him know I can't drop a tree up the hill (as I had suggested) as after consideration I think it's too risky.
Have a great! day
sincerely
d
I will still take the 500 I overall them great video👍
Good choice! (any one would work)
@@InTheWoodyard I understand, but I would love to see you get one the 500 I I never had a problem with my chain loosening up but great video as usual 👍
wow! a 5 year waranty for a professional saw is massive.
Yup, it is that!
Don’t port a saw. Porting is like crack, once you do it you’re addicted.😂
I have run a few and I was not all that impressed and not happy with the ear bleeding either.
@@InTheWoodyard I ported a ms400. It just rips. Next was a ms261 and that thing really rips. I use it when chunking down spars. My last saw was a ms661. I have a big oak I’m really anxious to see how it performs. I just got it back a couple weeks ago and haven’t had time for firewood yet. If you’re using a good porter he’ll have a good recipe and you should definitely see a big difference. The downside is you have to open the exhaust to let it breathe. Every saw I have gets at least an exhaust mod.
Once you go ported it's hard to go back. A nicely done 550xp may well become your favorite saw. Little screaming light saber.
My 550 is stock with just a muffler mod and is phenomenal! I watched builders port the newer Husqvarna‘s and maybe get 10% more performance out of them compared to 30% on older saws. The new ones are hot out of the box!
Maybe so but I value my hearing more.
Interesting!
@@kbittorf335 from what I have seen the largest gains are on the saws 70cc or less, the 10% gains are generally on the 592s
Schteal chains are engraved with the tiny Stihl lettering, so you can identify an original chain.
I've never had this happen but I heard that some new Stihl chains tend to stretch once to their "full expansion"... 🤔🤷🏻♂️
Yup, she did stretch a bunch.
Finally!! We get to see the ruby reds again!!
Yup!
I have owned all three brands. The only one I Stihl have is…. Stihl. They all make good ones! Nice cuttin Sir Chris👊🏻
You got that right! They do all make great stuff!
Husqvarna 🇸🇪
They do make great stuff!
Like I've said before, I have two 362's and a 500i,my brother has a 7310,and it's a great saw,but I've never had the chance to run a husky, I don't know anyone personally that owns one,one day maybe,maybe it's time for a play date to your woodyard
They all make great stuff!
It's all about the dealer
True, but in today‘s world that can change overnight and not for the better it seems.
That is one major factor for sure!
Yup, it can!
better yet is not needing the dealer at all, but in the end dealer support is important for some more than other owners. I personally like being able to order the parts myself and doing the repairs myself rather than being forced going to the Stihls dealer for parts.
I found with the sthil 25 inch bar the oil hole on the bar is smaller then the other sthil bars. Less oil more heat chain stretches so I drilled it out .... that might be why it keeps stretching when i talked to the dealer he said a lot of pros are doing that too
That is a problem they should fix...now!
You've got the Stihl hat, Husky shirt, and I'm guessing two Echos in your drawers? 😂
Yup, I had an Echo thong on!
Hi Chris, i missed to see and hear chainsaw working away, keep the nice and neat work you are doing for your and viewer's enjoyment
Thanks 👍
Excellent account of brand and utility. Pro dealer is the critical factor.....you're correct. Good night.
Thanks...Good night!
👍💪
Thanks!!
I'm more of a Stihl guy. But I have ran all 3 saws plus other saws. To me if a saw runs and cuts like it should. It's a great saw. If you ask me. Never put another saw down because you will have to run another different kind of saw.
Yup...most people that criticize others or their equipment are closed minded and afraid of change or looking bad in front of others so the just put down others and their stuff no matter what it is! One guy told me that his 25 year old Toro lawn mower was the best ever made and I though...you have not tried any other mowers then... I guess!
@@InTheWoodyard right. I've used a lot of different saws. But I never tried the John Deere or the Remington saws. But I would if I had to. Like I said if a saw does what it aspose to do. I'm not going to complain any. When I start complaining is when they start messing up and will not stay running and stays in the shop all the time
Nice chainsaw Chris love the power ( Ty Ron
Thanks!
How many tanks of gas do you normally cut in a day before you call it quits?
I like to do 6 that seems like a good workout my record is 12...way too much!
@@InTheWoodyard 6 is a great workout. I would love to see someone with an excavator holding up those logs for you. My back hurts just watching you :-)
Thanks Chris. Great demo of all three saws.
Thanks, they all are nice!
The 500 I is just too much for me
It is a great saw!
too much money, too much saw or both? rhetorical as everyone's wants and needs are different.
👍
Thanks!
Goodstuff Chris! Thanks
Thanks!