Discovering Undocumented Native Ruins in New Mexico!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 เม.ย. 2023
- Sometime between A.D. 1000 and 1300, this
Site was built and occupied by the Anasazi people.
They were the ancestors of modern Pueblo Indian people.
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Hey Everybody. Thanks for watching, as this is my first video! Working on my editing skills and will have more videos coming soon! Apologies for saying pottery over 50 times :) Take a drink each time I say pottery and your not gonna last long ;)
I can assure you all the pottery and artifacts seen in this video are still in the places I found them for others to enjoy. Cheers.
Subscribed. Looking forward to your next one! 👍
No points?
why so much pottery piece all over the place?
It is nice to see someone showing New Mexico sites. I have been exploring numerous sites in the Gila Wilderness. As a matter of fact my son came running to the house saying he found a "dinosaur egg"! Well, I walked out to see what he found on our land and in a washed area I saw what he had found. A human skull. I left it where it was and called the sheriff saying my son found a human skull. They came out and confirmed what I thought, that it was ancient. They called UNM. They sent out an archeologist and my kids were allowed to assist in the dig. Long story shortened... the bones were taken back to UNM and it was dated between 700-800 years old.
Wow! What a cool story! I absolutely love the Gila, and all it's hot springs !
Awesome story!
What a great experience for your kids.
The stone material is chert(a variety of limestone). They are called flakes. Definitely imported in from another area. The pottery fragments are “sherds” while glass fragments are called “shards”.
The pottery style will easily date a site without any excavation. Usually in the Four Corners region, excavation is rare, especially on archaeological surveys. Excavation occurs on sites that have structures that are partially or fully filled in.
I enjoyed your video but did want to provide some accurate information on terminology and methodology from a professional archaeologist.
Got a question, professional archeologist.. why do y'all take away everything and lock it all away, never to be seen by the public again? 🤔
@@01Lenda not sure what you’re talking about? I’m more than happy to discuss anything with you, but please refrain from any attitude or conspiracy.
What do you mean by “everything”?
I'm happy to find your channel. I love exploring my ancestors land! I live in New Mexico and I will follow your adventures. I appreciate you leaving pottery chards where you find them. Thank you for respecting sites and leaving undisturbed.
Great find and work. I made a difficult decision years ago to not post my location finds simply to keep them protected. I hope people respect your spots!
Blm will protect it!
Wonderful video! I used to use google earth's history function in Eastern Europe to locate Celtic and Roman sites that remain buried under modern farmlands. Now I am retired and live in NM. I would enjoy joining you on a future excursion hunt. Love the history and the challenge!
I clicked on this a little hesitantly, afraid that you weren’t going to be careless and touristy, but I was really pleased with your professionalism and respect for both the culture and the science. Big props to you, and thanks for giving me something to keep annoying my fiancé with every time I go “whaaat! Look at that!!”
Congratulations on your first video! The mesa above and to the west of Jemez Springs is where my grandfather secured state permission for us to jeep up and explore several miles. Footprints in sandstone, pottery, walls, petroglyphs, grinding stones are all in abundance. This was some 65 years ago, so the sites may have been exploited further. I wish you could get up there and do a video on that. The Jemez Indians occupied that mesa for centuries until the Spanish drove them down to consolidate the people to the current reservation. What the Spanish and the US government did to all Native Americans is a shameful disgrace. I encourage you to continue to sophisticate your presentations and fill them with more factual and educational information that will cause the value of your work to rise. That you're doing this kind of work is so valuable and you should be proud.
When walking around and handling items be careful of inviting bad medicine or misfortune into your life.. cleanse or pray and make offerings to your visit there.
superstition brought genocide so chimps could continue to mock & deny the eternal source by the signal of false virtue in yt comments 150yrs later.
I live in Roswell and like watching your videos, I am older now and don't get out as much but love finding these places. Keep it coming!!!!
Definitely ruins at the 15 minute point of the video. The pottery fragments are called "sherds" Glass fragments are called "shards". The flint/chert, obsidian, dacite, etc., pieces are called debitage. That is one great petroglyph panel. Thanks for sharing. Some of the pottery shown is called corrugated. Made for centuries in various styles but generally before 1300 AD. Black on white pottery is the most common painted pottery in New Mexico from pre-European contact times. The undecorated sherds are normally corrugated or utility ware. The painted pottery is generally of higher quality and comes in many configurations including bowls, ladles, cups, ollas, etc. Sherds which have smooth sides (often triangles) where those sides are not originally on a rim are called modified sherds. I taught archaeological field schools for 3 years but this was in Montana.
These sites are everywhere in NM- I can take you dozens within minutes of my house. This site has most likely been explored many many times. To say it may not be documented sounds more accurate. I have only found one site personally I know for fact hasn't been touched. There were whole pots, jars with lids, various tools, etc. There is a burial site on private land a friend found cutting firewood that hasn't been touched. These sites are rare, but this one seems standard for what anyone can come across in NM. I worked the pipeline in MT and was too busy working to explore dang it!
@@ctenterprises9440 sounds like you live in an amazing area
@@jessicamitchell4866 I heard him say this was BLM land. If you kept those pieces, you broke the law.
Man the thing I could show you. I’ve been doing this since I was a kid. I grew up in southern NM and do this regularly. If this excites you then your mind would be blown from the things I’ve discovered. The Mimbres polychromatic designs are very prominent in the places I go. Would love to share some info with you.
I’m interested in getting that info I’m down in the San Antonio area and moved to the area because of things like this and would love to know what you know and would love to meet up with you if you were open to it
NO NO No, keep those things to yourself please. It has to be earned and it will all be lost if all this stuff is just given out on the internet.
@@michaelmoravetz5830 No one is openly sharing anything. You wouldn’t have known anything about these sites or anything of these ancients existence if absolutely no one ever told anyone, muchless you. That being said, only share general information with people you trust will be respectful. If that’s what you mean by earned then I agree. New Mexico is a treasure trove and only the locals and people in the field know what exists here. Several of my professors said its the most geological and historical state in the US. And are always on the history channel when it comes to the southwest. Most people think there’s nothing here. Little do they know..
@@rafaeltorre1643My dad and his bbuddies made some nice finds bback in the late 50s around Las Cruces. Skulls, spear points and smaller, trinkets and pottery. He used to have bboxes of the stuff. He didn't have a job for years and still did well. When he died, all I inherited was a couple dozen small points and some incomplete pottery. I've been to the places with him as a teenager and have seen their digs. The Sierra de las Uvas still has something to hide, and it's there to the trained eye. NW of Kilbourne Hole, too. I'm too bbroke down to do that, and I believe in letting the dead alone, so I will live vicariously through videos.
@@michaeltaylor4984I have also inherited some artifacts. I'm reasonably sure a modest expert could easily identify them. However, the location context information has been lost forever.
Great find; that was a huge panel with some unique figures depicted. One tip on your camera work which someone has probably mentioned before me, as this video is 7 months old. But, when you pan the camera to show the width of the panels, make sure you pan your camera super slow so as to not give your viewers vertigo. Thanks for inviting us along on your explorations. Cheers!
I really enjoyed your video - I visited New Mexico and Colorado last year to see Chaco Canyon and Mesa Verde last year.
I’m very happy that you’re not identifying the locations of the sites you visited to deter pot hunters. You seem to be very respectful as you explore and I really appreciate that you’re apparently not removing any of the artifacts. I’m not of Native American ancestry but I consider these sites to be our common heritage as modern Americans, for everyone to enjoy and appreciate. I think they should respected and left intact for possible future archaeological excavation, which will add to our understanding of this beautiful part of America.
Fk that!! You leave though's grave sites alone!!! You know better. So what you steal will cost you dearly...you deserve what you get....
Great video dude! Hope there will be more soon. Awesome job. A million times better than my first attempt. Excellent! New Mexico has so much interesting history.
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That panel is awesome, so cool of you to share all of this.
wow watching you put the shards back- VERY GROWN UP OF YOU (hope the schools learn from you)
The rectangular rock formation looks more like a modern grave.
I think it's great that young people are doing their own research and publishing their findings about the ancestors. Great, I'll be sure to check out all the other posts. Very worth seeing, interesting and I think you are absolutely brave! Great, thank you!
Thanks for vid. We collected artifacts since we were little kids. Grew up in an Indian camp basically. We kept them but there was no archaeologist coming.
Our state was named after Indians, Indiana. God made us all. Gave us all red blood.
Yeah we looted too. No nice way to say it, IMO Indiana was named for Indians like Columbus was named for Colombians.
@@BlueAgaveStudios sure there is. Collected, found, etc. Looting isn't picking up pieces of the past, it's hustling them for profit. I agree with the name thing though- that one's a stretch.
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Bring along a little cornmeal for the spirit people. They would appreciate it.
Really cool video man. Fantastic panel. New Mexico is the best. Wish I was closer.
It’s so much it seems like either a wash up site where water has moved and deposited everything, or… a 12:00 site where they made pottery and sun dried it out in the open and all the failed pieces that broke there, stayed there
Wow so much pottery very interesting. well done on your video and document the history 👍⚓☘️🇮🇪
Great first video! New Mexico has SO many places like that If you can get out into the country. If I were living there I would probably be out a couple of times every week if possible. Of course, with all the private property that's getting more and more difficult..
Keep having fun!
I remember being able to find these places in NM, decades ago, told stories from childhood no one believed, thank you for the look
Good documentation before it's all gone.the fragmented motives are very interesting,thankyou for sharing
I find this extremely interesting. Keep the content coming. I subscribed. Good luck.
This is for sure, an ancient site. Need to get some ground radar going there. How Cool. Perfect place for a man site. Never seen that panel before. I hope you go back and log these beautiful gliffs. They don't look vandalized yet. Great find.
I’ve recently fallen in love with studying the history and prehistory of the Southwest. Count me in as a new sub! Love this!
It could be a grave site if you take a piece of Pottery the sprits will hunt you down until you put it back
Same goes for ghost towns too. 👻 Don't take anything from them. They say you can have very bad luck as well. ☠
I live and love New Mexico, Belen. So much to see in this state I haven't vacationed out of the state . Now I will check out your other videos.
Cool video man thanks
Thanks for a great video
I found several detailed Anasazi dig sites in the Norther Arizona University library researching other related subjects. It may be the case that smaller yet undiscovered sites would likely be found within walking distance from a large well documented site. The fun part is gathering information and then using your intuition to go seek out what could be a site valuable to the science of archeology.
Bro ,this is so cool that you found this! My wifes realatives were original local people from North west coner New Mexico. They dont talk about their ancestry. Frustrating. But thank you brother.
I found some incredible cliff dwellings in Utah many years ago complete with walls ,doorways etc and lots of beautiful pottery with painted designs . it's in an extremely remote area with no trails or anything to indicate that they are there . i did take my wife there but we never divulged the location , leaving everything intact for the next lucky person .
The rock art is amazing!
I live outside capitan in the capitan mountains.I’ve found all kinds of artifacts throughout the years I’ve been in Lincoln county on my property.
Awesome video!
As an avid explorer and a NM native. I love this content l!
When you first got into the heavy pottery did you notice the stone structures on the ground that had collapsed. I saw possibly three. 😊
Nice job!; thank you!
Thank you! this is really interesting. Are all of those pottery shards in an old wash and could they have been washed down from a site/sites above?
I grew up in northern New Mexico . Archeology is absolutely every where
Great video man I don't got the guts to do what you do and post to youtube , I've lived in nm my whole life. I'm 21. I've found many artifact, hieroglyphics and archeological cites I just can't get enough of it.
I used to find stuff right next to the bases of junipers and pinons. And tons in washes where the dirt is eroded to expose new stuff.
Lot's of ruin's hidden in plain sight, especially up here in northern New Mexico also a lot more that have been covered up by the state for construction
Spot on! I worked at Chaco and Aztec Ruins National Monument.
LIDAR would be very interesting to see beneath the soil and understand the whole structure. Great video!
I was wondering why you didn't bring up that foundation (the rocks that were lined up in a recrangle for those that don't know) as you walked up to it. Caught you off guard haha I like the raw honesty in this video! Super cool find brother!
A neighbor of mine finds pottery shards right where we live in Northern Arizona. Its everywhere.
Interesting stuff..just subbed
Kivas were also used as a sanctuary from nagging wives...
Very cool. Subbed instantly
I'm from North Carolina but hang out in Otero County and I find pottery all the time
I enjoyed your 1st video. I am going to count how many times you said "There is pottery everywhere"?
Not in a negative way, it was cute! I liked it.
Yo!! Awesome video. I live in Arizona and definitely see some similarities. I do know ancients would break pottery ceremoniously. Sheards are everywhere in AZ. Please do more videos, cross the border and step into Az.
There is a difference between 'undiscovered and undocumented'. Hard to imagine undiscovered ruins out in the open with all the sheep herders, cowboys, game hunters, pot hunters and archeologists having roamed these areas since European expansion commenced. The only ones 'undiscovered' are hidden in extremely rugged and remote areas or buried under drifting sands. Some small sites just passed over.
Very cool! I wonder if they will use lidar to see what lies beneath
Nice.
Based on location, it looks like you found a nice little Piro or Tompiro site. Good job!
I guarantee they aren't undiscovered, there are hundreds of ruins here in central Arizona that the archeologists don't know about that every rancher and mountain lion hunter have been to a dozen times
Well aren’t you fun at party’s…
@@Blurzy I would say being quite honest. This site is one of thousands in NM. There are dozens within minutes of my house. Its very common to run across. When you know what and where to look for, they stick out like a sore thumb. To say undocumented would be more accurate. If this had never been found before, it would be obvious.
It's funny all these pro's, and yet all the cool places are kept secret by the folks you mentioned. Nailed it on the lion hunters ;)
Did you see any possible source of water? Glad to see you put things back where you found them.
Hi Richard! At one time there was! It has since dried up!
Great Job sir, looking forward to more
Very interesting. I would like to know what area you are in. You mentioned Anistazi. That makes me think you are in northwest NM. I have seen ruins around my area, near Las Vegas. I like the petroglyphs you showed. I will check out your channel. I am looking forward to more. Thanks.
I’m Navajo, I always thought they were hiding from something in the sky
Thanks for the interesting video! How close by would the water have been?
Sure would like to know how the pottery became so scattered about. I live in NM and just love this state, there is so much to do and explore! Great job for your first video!
I read one suggestion/theory that after a person's death their pottery was crushed and the pieces scattered far and wide. To me, it's obvious that in this area and so many others the pots were not just dropped and left behind.
i live in Tuba City, border of Navajo/Hopi. On rez land there are all kinds of archeological sites from petrified forests, ocean fossils to dinosaur tracks to ruins to petroglyphs to pottery sites with vivid paint patterns. None mapped, which is good because they would be looted into oblivion. History and culture is everywhere.
By the way, Hopi still use kivas in the mesas and it's still men only. but their dances are incredible.
Anasazi now referred to as "ancestral Puebloans".... "pink sherd.... from the quick look you gave us, it looked to me like the pink was pot interior. Pot sherd about 6:20 was corrugated pottery - which was probably their everyday cooking pot. Black on white AP pottery probably of Mesa Verde regional style.... no grinding stones at this site? Was there any water nearby?
Since this video was recorded, I have been doing ALOT of research, as well as talking to the park ranger nearby. The black and white pottery is called "socorro black on white", the red / pink pottery is from "White Mountain Red Ware" from the Santa Fe region. I found a few grinding stones at a nearby site, not at this one, along with few knifes and a few Mano's I didn't record.
Thank you fornbeing respectful of the site and for putting the artifacts back where you found them. That made my heart happy to see you do that. "Ancestral Puebloans" is the more respected term to use when referring to the ancestors. Great video my friend 😊
Went there about 45 or 46yrs ago. Got 3 nice bowls under the ledge at the wall. Found over 200 arrowheads and spearheads and a very special knife with the bone handle still attached that was with the bowls.
where is it?!
You should NEVER keep any artifacts!
Karma on you.
If you search the name of the paper that's behind a paywall, you can often find the same paper or one like it. The Anasazi would break a hole in the bottom of the bowl to let the spirit of the bowl escape and the spirit of the deceased escape during funerary rituals.
5:57 The rough shards are known as corrugated ware.
Prob a lot of arrow head if you look a little closer.. That what them shards of quarts n obsidian are
Cool videos bro keep them coming i love history/archiology have you been to the Gila cliff dwellings and Chaco Canyon theres so much history in our state its crazy but i enjoyed the content keep up the good work and never stop exploring
I got another place in T-or-C, wish I could get in touch with ya
Yes, good spot to see for mikes but WATER is Life….old rivers, streams, springs, wells…..
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You walked right past a perfect arrowhead laying next to a non broken pottery bowl and it looked like an old rifle leaning against a cedar tree about 50' from it..
Im tewa Pueblo from northern New Mexico. what part of NM are you from?
Awesome to be able to do that. Have you found many arrowheads and/or tools walking through these ruins?
Never any arrowheads! I have found plenty of knifes, Mano's and pestles!
I’m native to NM and never found an arrowhead but always found seashell fossils everywhere in my yard. Very common. Petroglyphs are everywhere. Pottery of course.
How did this group survive without an obvious water source? Or is there one near?
Yes the pottery pieces are referred to as “sherds” and the stone flakes from fashioning stone tools are “lithic chippings”. In outlying areas I keep an eye out for those, it may point to a spot a Hunter fashioned a tool while in the field.
...actually... "sherds"
@@georgejoseph90210 😘 haha
I could be wrong, but it’s my understanding that the ancients smashed pottery as they abandoned their homes…
Enjoyed this- love canyon running myself.
Yeah. Given the long span of time and the sheer size of NM undocumented ruins are not an uncommon thing to come across. My best freind owned a home between Silver City and Pinos Altos. Visiting several times and walking the lot it was clear thst the house sat on a pithouse ruin. Pottery shards, carbon in the erosion, and a grindstone station on a rock stsnd nearby were clear.
so was the pottery for storage of grains or food that is being banked in rock stashes?
FYI for those that don’t know. It’s a major felony to collect artifacts from federal land.
This is probably private land tbf haha
Did you see any pottery? 😉 Nice video. Thanks
It's hard to carry water to the top of a mesa, and water is essential for survival. 5:18 looks like a structure maybe a grainery same with 8:48. Have you reported that site to the Archaeology Department at U.N.M.?
Let’s go
Do a shot every time you hear “there’s pottery everywhere “. Now I have alcohol poisoning.
If you want clear up some questions. Please visit or get to know the descendants of these sites.
With in my tribe and surrounding tribes of the four corners region of the southwest....broken pot sherds are still considered funerary offerings on behalf of our departed love ones so they can journey into the next world and take along items they need on their travels. Also the sherds hold special meaning to those who were still alive at the time of a "funeral" of sorts. They gave up their most prized possessions. As an indigenous individual from the southwest, it is best to leave the sherds where they lay. Not only are we very traditional but we are also very Superstitious. Elders believe, if u pick up and "toss" the sherds of pots or broken arrowheads back down to the ground with out placing gently, spirits from the ancestors will come back and follow you until you are called to the next world (FYI) 😉
As a native New Mexican, I have often heard that potsherds are part of a trash heap. Is this incorrect?
Show more pottery with paint remaining, the patterns are interesting.
Did you tell archeologists at university of NM about the petroglyphs? They are remarkable.
First video, great job. Just remember, slow pans & zooms & if you’re going to speak away from camera, wear a lavaliere (small “button” type) microphone on your shirt collar. 🙏
I'm saving up some money for one!
I explored a ranch north east of St John, AZ. I was about one mile from the western New Mexico border. Found lots of pottery shards that looked a lot like the kinds you are finding. I read in an Arizona research paper about why so many shards and not so many whole artifacts. Their theory is a religious one. The Anasazi would make the pottery, use it for a while and then destroy it to appease Creator for abundance. If the Anasazi trusted Creator enough to provide for them, then destroying a handmade water or food storage pot perhaps showed faith? My own theory is that warring tribes would destroy each enemies food and water caches.
That’s interesting 1:26 with the tumble weeds finding low points (where water collects) I guess I never thought about why tumble weeds tumble lol 😂
Hi from Texas! How old would you estimate this site is?
You stopped to pick up two flakes from someone making blades and tools and nearly stepped on 6 or 7 in BLADE.
broken pottery often times indicates a burial ground or sacred space. broken pots released the power of the contents they contained.
I want to go, pick me up in el paso