Agree. You have the top driver at the track so why would he not drive both cars for a true comparison??? Maybe after the mods are applied they will do just that. Otherwise, as you've stated, it's a worthless comparison. Looking forward to seeing what mods are applied and how they do!!
PH did this on purpose, so there is a bigger gap between the 2 cars. That way the mods will a actually make a noticeable difference in time when they track the car. If the pro driver drove the mk5, the gap would be a lot smaller.
All that braking difference is down to the tyres. You don't need to upgrade the brakes, just replace with new stock pads and discs. Better tyres will make a big difference alongside more power, suspension will add a little extra time.
Even on a stage 1 car the standard brakes aren't really up to the job, stock discs and pads don't really cut it at that point. Ferodo ds2500 or ebc yellowstuff pads make a big difference especially if they're wanting to make a track car. Nobody runs stock discs and pads on a track car they'll fade after a few corners of hard use. Tyres are important as well though!
Looking forward to seeing what you need to do to match the R. Tactically chosen tight track should definitely reduce the benefit of its extra power. Do feel like the tyres should be like-for-like though...
I just purchased a mk5 gti daily here in the states a few months ago! Got it for $2,000 with 220,000miles, but I'm itching to get it on track and see how it compares to my mk7 R. Nice to see a comparison with it 🤘
I own a mk5 gti myself, honestly I love this car but I got unlucky and mine has a bad dsg transmission, I wish to win this one looks so fire, I would fall in love with it
Agreed, it's quite pointless to have a professional driver in one car and then the presenter drive the other car. It's no longer how many mods do you need to beat a modern R, it's just how much better is a racing driver in a faster car. I'm guessing they'll do a final timed lap in both cars with the racing driver to show the actual difference.
why didn't u have the same driver for the lap time it would have been interesting to see what the other guy would have done in the mk5 (ps not calling u a shit driver lol just wanted to se a more accurate comparison)
If you had started with an Edition 30 you would stand a lot more of a chance of completing your goal , more expensive to start with but so much cheaper to extract decent power from . You bought the wrong car I am afraid .
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Fun video but it is daft not to hand both cars to that nice race driver. All meaningless otherwise. 🤷♂️
Agree. You have the top driver at the track so why would he not drive both cars for a true comparison??? Maybe after the mods are applied they will do just that. Otherwise, as you've stated, it's a worthless comparison. Looking forward to seeing what mods are applied and how they do!!
AGREE
100% not taking anything away from old mate driving the gti but hey for a fair comparison same driver for both cars would have been more entertaining
PH did this on purpose, so there is a bigger gap between the 2 cars. That way the mods will a actually make a noticeable difference in time when they track the car.
If the pro driver drove the mk5, the gap would be a lot smaller.
@@Mark-nu3ej 😊
Just did a roadtrip with my Astra VXR and my friends mk5 golf GTI to the Nürburgring. Great cars
Why isn't the racing driver in the gti also
Man, I had a mk5 GTI 4 door in black but with DSG. What a great car
All that braking difference is down to the tyres. You don't need to upgrade the brakes, just replace with new stock pads and discs. Better tyres will make a big difference alongside more power, suspension will add a little extra time.
Even on a stage 1 car the standard brakes aren't really up to the job, stock discs and pads don't really cut it at that point. Ferodo ds2500 or ebc yellowstuff pads make a big difference especially if they're wanting to make a track car. Nobody runs stock discs and pads on a track car they'll fade after a few corners of hard use. Tyres are important as well though!
Exactly, and also testing error (braking starting point)
lol my mk5 stock pads and discs are pretty good ngl compared to almost any other car ive driven@@OwainF
as a mk5 gti owner, I can't wait for next episode love it
Thanks for watching! Lots more to come very soon...
yah but how stupid to race a manual nd not a Dsg. FFS!
Nice to see another local independent company doing some cool stuff! wish I had kept my Ed30 ! brilliant cars 👍
Somehow the MK5 exterior and seats look better than the MK8. The leather on the MK5 looks great.
It's a great interior that's aged surprisingly well. Looks great in beige, too...
The R MK8 have far better seat what you talking about
@@markx787 MK8 is driven by cost savings. Its quality is downgraded. The 5/6 era is actually quite good.
@@jaredscott4829 do you Ever take a long ride on MK8 seat? The seat is crazy good.
@@markx787 Yes and no its not. Cost cutting cheapness. The entire MK8 is that way.
Looking forward to seeing what you need to do to match the R. Tactically chosen tight track should definitely reduce the benefit of its extra power. Do feel like the tyres should be like-for-like though...
Awesome video! Can’t wait to see what happens next…
The mk8 front calipers and disks will bolt straight on to the Mk5 just swap them over for free. I'm sure VW won't notice when you hand the mk8 back
I just purchased a mk5 gti daily here in the states a few months ago! Got it for $2,000 with 220,000miles, but I'm itching to get it on track and see how it compares to my mk7 R. Nice to see a comparison with it 🤘
Is 220k okay for this kind of engine?
@@uhbif19 if it has been maintained. Check the timing belt and/or timing chain service records, and make sure the oil pump isn't having problems lol
So exciting! 🤩💯
Soo excited for this race
I own a mk5 gti myself, honestly I love this car but I got unlucky and mine has a bad dsg transmission, I wish to win this one looks so fire, I would fall in love with it
Love following this
Sounded like a neat little series until I got to the bit where you didn't have any actual timing gear...
love my manual 3 door mk5 thing is so fun
Did Charles set a time in the Mk5, to see how much you need to find as a driver, and how much you have to find in the car?
3:10 Pretty sure the BWA engine in the golf is belt driven... no timing chain.
Timing belt , cam chain
Clearly the gti would have been quicker in the other lads hands. Anyway, good content.
More on that later in the series...
Crazy to think a Mk5 is nearly 20 years old
Why are my brakes on my 2006 mk5 GTI TFSI bigger than all the other GTI models?
Every mk5 gti iv worked on has needed a new dv , so defo replace yours
Never seen tan GTI interior before wtf?
And I never want to see it again 😅
Love My Edition30, owned it 14 years and such a great drivers car still, the mk8 is too bland in comparison
K04 turbo upgrade by Turbo direct sa.. more Power baby!!
I thought mk5 gti are belt and mk6 gti chains?
They use a belt to drive the exhaust cam and a chain from the exhaust cam to drive the intake cam.
Love the mk5 such a go kart… best car for under 3k for sure
3k lol? 6…
@@conorf8091 mk5 start about 3k! Are you taking about ed30?
Littco hybrid turbo next?
This location must be high in elevation? 0-60 times for the R should be in the low to mid 4's.
It was 100m sprint not a 0-60 run
@@AmanJandu ahh, silly it would be a 100 m run. I interpreted it to be a 100km run, which would basically be 0-60. Ok, thank you.
Same driver in each car is the most fair test.
mk8 GTI?
Who won the car 👀👀
a GTI with a tan interior? what the hell
My 08 has 192k miles and looks nothing like that underneath. That thing is covered in surface rust lol
I’d rather have that mk5.
You need to have the same driver or at least 2 professional drivers! I bet if they swapped drivers the gti would be equal to the R already!😂
Agreed, it's quite pointless to have a professional driver in one car and then the presenter drive the other car. It's no longer how many mods do you need to beat a modern R, it's just how much better is a racing driver in a faster car.
I'm guessing they'll do a final timed lap in both cars with the racing driver to show the actual difference.
There's method behind the madness. More on this in a later episode.
@PistonHeads yeah can't make the golf r look like a shitbox straight away 😂
Next episode!!!!
Soon... 🤐
@PistonHeads I'm so intrigued,best content currently on TH-cam,k04s? 🤐
How is a rusty 15-18yo Golf GTi costing £5,200!?
Hold on a second.. I believe that MK8 was a bespoke order from my workplace!
mk 1 Tiguan track test
I am about to buy 08 vw golf 5 2.0tfsi estate here in New zealand(jap import). Goals to get it fast wagon😅
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why didn't u have the same driver for the lap time it would have been interesting to see what the other guy would have done in the mk5 (ps not calling u a shit driver lol just wanted to se a more accurate comparison)
Ma perché ?
The older the better...
manual vs mega fast dsg.. daft comparison tbh
Golf gti better car mk4 golf gti probs best out the lot off them and mk3 gti 16 valve
Mk 8 will be quicker because driver has a sponsored jacket
If you had started with an Edition 30 you would stand a lot more of a chance of completing your goal , more expensive to start with but so much cheaper to extract decent power from . You bought the wrong car I am afraid .
I think they’d struggle to buy an Ed30 and get it up to the spec they want for 10K.
These guys never heard of a v box? 😂
Can't afford one in our budget!
Just get on with the mods. This video was pointless. You could have just spent a minute on the race timings and then started the actual mods.
Both boring cars.
You’ve upset me there🥲
@@princeamongmen7064 Sorry.
@@PureLeefulme too - I have a Mk5 and don't find it at all boring.
yah but how stupid to race a manual nd not a Dsg. FFS!