VW Golf GTI mk5 vs mk8

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  • @disarchitected
    @disarchitected 4 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    MK5 might be a classic in the making.

    • @MrElectricSkittles
      @MrElectricSkittles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Without doubt a future classic.. probably up there with one of the best cars ever built

    • @ddrrFA5
      @ddrrFA5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      If you keep the intake valves clean its a wonderful car. Mine has 140,000 miles and counting!

    • @AlexJohnson-yl6hu
      @AlexJohnson-yl6hu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ddrrFA5 Same!

    • @davishunt3018
      @davishunt3018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      my mk5 has 190,000 miles and no issues, its also stage 2 plus tuned soon to be stage 3 ko4. shit will not die haha

    • @fukndrums367
      @fukndrums367 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And the Mk4 has done it already;)

  • @deanheylen
    @deanheylen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Still have my MK5 GTI after 12 fantastic years with it. Very little went wrong and was easily fixed. Car is showing its age through minor issues such as the ceiling material coming loose now and sagging a bit, but it is still mechanically sound. MK5 has already secured its spot in the hall of fame.

    • @mrlabonte
      @mrlabonte 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you have the FSI or TSI engine? I used to have the mk5 with a FSI engine, and it gave me loads of probs. I have a VW R32 now :D, but I still miss the mk5 GTI. AWD is nice, but the little turbo pocket rocket sweeettttt, and the R32 is quite heavy and because of that, is somewhat slow in passing speed.

    • @C4793-h3o
      @C4793-h3o 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mrlabonte I test drove a MK5 GTI & the R32 version at the same VW official dealer. I went out in the GTI first, then the R32. The GTI was better for me, the R32 felt heavy and a lot of work whereas the GTI felt light and way more fun. I never bought any of them though ironically, both had the DSG and I preferred a manual,for obvious reasons. Funny thing is though now I’m in Australia and I’ve currently got a Jetta 155 Highline Sport with a DSG and I like it, would prefer a manual but it’s difficult or near impossible to get a manual version of this car. Anyways yeah the MK5 GTI was very good.

    • @mrlabonte
      @mrlabonte 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@C4793-h3o Dudeeeeee wooowwwwww!!! It’s so nice to hear someone else having a similar experience!!! It’s crazy. Yes that’s exactly it!!!!!! The R32 feels a bit too heavy and the car always feels obstructed by that. Fun little car due to the awd but lacks a bit of pace, and impedes overall enjoyability. I just might sell my r32 and would be considering going for the mk5 gti, but the awd is so much fun. Manuals are fun I have to say; I guess dsg is good for convenience… haha. Im sorry you couldn’t find the manual one…

  • @ram64man
    @ram64man 4 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    The mk7, 7.5 for me the quality difference really makes the mk8 look like a backwards step regardless of what happens under the bonnet

    • @nickhudd2011
      @nickhudd2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @Daniel Murillo I'm not a fan of the micropenis of a shifter in the center. Mk7 for me had a more practical interior. Can't stand all of the touch controls. How am I supposed to figure out where they are while I'm driving without taking my eyes off the road. Seems counter intuitive. Mk7 and mk7.5 nails the sweet spot between sleek interiors and practical design.

    • @chrisl6989
      @chrisl6989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nickhudd2011 Reminds me of a chicken nugget.

    • @chrisl6989
      @chrisl6989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Phil I got the 7.5
      Love that car.

    • @eurownedmk71.88
      @eurownedmk71.88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mk7 1.8 with a tune beats both! Lol mine is a S base model but i love the simplicity of that as driver more than even the mk7 gti. Thats just me though ima a cheap ass and totally happy with it.

    • @disarchitected
      @disarchitected 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eurownedmk71.88 What country are you in to have a 1.8l engine?

  • @Diminish12
    @Diminish12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    Dude I sold my MK5 a 4 months ago. I've owned it for 12yrs. I recently purchased the MK7.5 and I got to be honest I regret selling my MK5 and this video makes me want it back!

    • @stevenswann3254
      @stevenswann3254 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Same here. Traded my Mk5GTI, which I owned from new for 10 years, on a mk7.5 a couple of years back. I still miss the Mk5 - especially the steering. The 7.5 is more refined but lacks the 5's feedback and tactility. If I'd known back then what I do now, I'd have kept the Mk5GTI. Best car I've ever owned by a mile.

    • @silkstar20
      @silkstar20 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Buy my Edition 30!

    • @parvindermander5664
      @parvindermander5664 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I've currently got a mk5 GTI manual and was thinking of trading up to a mk7 GTI but I think I might hold on to it now, just love driving it.

    • @markstewart110
      @markstewart110 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sold my Mk5 GTI less than a year ago for an Audi S3. Really regret selling it. The GTI was a far superior driving car and put a bigger smile on my face. Was definitely one to keep.

    • @upbeatmantis86
      @upbeatmantis86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its like selling iphone12 for an iphone 2 , yeay right..

  • @-DC-
    @-DC- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    The cost cutting in VAG products is really beginning to show , great content on this channel 👍.

    • @martygrb26
      @martygrb26 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The engine cover doesn't even have a VW logo, I assume so they can share it across the VAG group

    • @WabeTM
      @WabeTM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Especially with seat.. seat used to be cheap audis 😔

    • @AgonxOC
      @AgonxOC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They put money where it matters. The MKVI and MKVII became very cheap in mechanical areas. The MKVIII is gone back to better materials. One example. The MKV had an aluminum alloy subframe, missing on the rest until the MKVIII. My MKV has all Aluminum Allow front suspension bits (Front a donor Passat).

    • @spencerquimby4726
      @spencerquimby4726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      One thing he didn't mention (unless I missed it) on the MKV is the soft touch coating in the interior. If you glance at it too harshly it will come off. This is not just an age thing, it was an issue when the car was new as well, owners reported some of the soft touch finish lasted less than 6 months from the factory. Also the FSI engine does have some known issues that can kill it if not dealt with. Like the fuel pump cam follower and the timing system/belt, if you aren't the type to regularly service your car, it WILL bend the valves or send shards of metal into your valvetrain.

    • @AgonxOC
      @AgonxOC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spencerquimby4726 ahhh soft touch. Mine has faired well after 17 years. It’s started showing age at five or so. It’s a matter of what you used to clean it. People would touch with harsh chemicals and that would cause it to bubble and peel. I was very careful. My car is an 05/06 so it is covered in the “soft” rubbery material. My head liner on the other hand has failed twice and my wind shield is in need of replacement, but VW no longer makes there blue tinted ones.

  • @88tmilko
    @88tmilko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    My MK5 R32 will never be sold, love the GTI too!

    • @chrislaws9524
      @chrislaws9524 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      One of the best exhaust notes going around! Miss my R32, though a bit nose-heavy.

    • @farguc
      @farguc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mk5 GT Sport here. She served me well. Upgrading to 2021 Skoda Scala cause im older now with a family, but by God Ill miss my mk5 :(

    • @Koi-Politics1916
      @Koi-Politics1916 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      R32 great sound. Sold it. Regretted always.

  • @EmanuelePolimeni
    @EmanuelePolimeni 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Mk5 is probably my favourite hot hatch of all time, considering how it blends performance with every day use

    • @matthewsmith2787
      @matthewsmith2787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Mk6 is good too

    • @angusmulcahy7946
      @angusmulcahy7946 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Carbon buildup

    • @solo636
      @solo636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For drive mk5, for styling the mk4 for me.

    • @ShaneCharlesProductions
      @ShaneCharlesProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewsmith2787 Mk6-7 were the best, Mk5 looks like a Japanese car, so unGerman, hated Golfs when they looked like this, you can see why VW only did it for one make, trash.

    • @mrvolkswagon1710
      @mrvolkswagon1710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Un German? It looks more like a Audi from that era from the front I’d say. Never heard anyone say it looks jap in my life.

  • @ROMANERUIZA
    @ROMANERUIZA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I always believed that the real "game changer" in the lot had been the MK5, and it seems like I'm not the only one with such thoughts. I still remember the cravings of having one of those back in the day, that no other GTI generation had (nor has up to this day) caused in me. Every Golf after the MK5 has felt like a minor update, not a major upgrade like it should have been.

    • @richboy900
      @richboy900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea, totally dude. I think its also due to the older mk4 gti being a heavy old unit if a thing. Vw knew they had to up their game with the gti when ford had the rs and honda had the ep3 type r

    • @Neptune8
      @Neptune8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think the Mk6 was the best generation. Same comfortable sporty feeling car , but the interior quality was improved and the TSI engine was , overall , more reliable. But I agree, every generation has been very minor changes, except the Mk6 to Mk7 was shift towards a new vision for VW trying to be the mid luxury European brand , the Hyundai Veloster is the new cheap and fun hot hatch. Having had both a Veloster and GTI , the gti is better but if you were to buy a new car the Hyundai is the better deal especially since the interior quality seems to be moving backwards from the mk7 to the mk8

    • @anthonycraig1458
      @anthonycraig1458 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes a lot changed with the Mk 5 and the Mk 6 & 7 were updates but I'll be totally biaised and choose the Mk 7 as it's the only GTI I've owned! (after Mk 4 & 6 diesels). Test drove a Mk 6 GTI but decided to wait for a Mk 7 and it's been great. Can't say there's anything about the Mk 8 that makes me want to trade mine in so will keep on going with it for as long as I can. Plus we got the golf ball gear knob back with the Mk 7!

    • @dashing2293
      @dashing2293 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mk5 also comes in tsi!

    • @angusmulcahy7946
      @angusmulcahy7946 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The mk4 is literally lighter than the mk5 with a more reliable power plant, gtfo

  • @DarrenJMHughes
    @DarrenJMHughes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Happy Mk5 GTi owner here. Great review and it’s not really surprising that the Mk5 is better than the mk8.

  • @jordiskillerboy
    @jordiskillerboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    mk5 gti owner here, thought it was a very nice video to watch, this reminds me again why i bought it and why i would never get rid of it😁

    • @s9523pink
      @s9523pink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here, bro, I feel fortunate to own one, and tuned, the 5 can hold its own!

  • @davidhuysmans67
    @davidhuysmans67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    There are so many new cars that came on the market lately, and aren't better than the previous model. Just my opinion.

    • @matthewsmith2787
      @matthewsmith2787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The new fiesta is a lot nicer than the previous model, but your right new cars seem to generally be worse than their predecessors

    • @WabeTM
      @WabeTM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s the work of Satan unfortunately

  • @kiantaylor6087
    @kiantaylor6087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love my mk5 gti. It’s my first car and I’m definitely a lucky kid. 170,000 miles and still running very strong (because I do all the maintenance)

  • @michaelw6277
    @michaelw6277 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I have a mk6 that I bought new over 10 years ago, which is basically a mk5 with different headlights and an updated interior.... there’s a reason I’ve held onto it, it’s a fantastic car and I just don’t feel the need to buy a new one. If anything I really dislike that they’ve gone to a nearly all glass cockpit; I want physical buttons for the most commonly used functions.
    Thing is, if you want the mk5/6 platform to be a more interactive driver’s car, the aftermarket is seemingly endless and it’s very easy to sharpen it up. I run mine at track days and through the corners it’ll trade punches with Porsches.

  • @Golfgtiguy
    @Golfgtiguy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought my mark 5 gti new 16 years ago . I still love the car and 120000 miles later no major issues , 2 fuel injectors replaced in the last 2 years thats about it .

  • @parvindermander5664
    @parvindermander5664 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I currently have a mk5 GTI manual and just love it, good quality examples are going up in value.

  • @jamesoc22
    @jamesoc22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Coming from a MK5 GTI owner who has driven the MK7 GTI, performance, club sport and R all of which are great cars. I found none of them gave me anymore enjoyment / smiles per miles than the MK5 for the money.

    • @mrlabonte
      @mrlabonte 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You drove the R and found you got more enjoyment out of the MK5 GTI? That is interesting, but definitely not the first I've heard that from... What do you really like about the MK5 GTI the most?

  • @natestrand4922
    @natestrand4922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Still got my mk5, 13 years running strong. It’s relatively easy to work on yourself as well. Only thing that was a pain was replacing the timing belt, but I got it done with help from a friend. Another thing to note with these FSI engines is the carbon build up on the intake valves, that’s the next thing I’m going to work on in the coming months.

    • @dashing2293
      @dashing2293 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tsi as well just did a full cleaning on mine as well

    • @loccatolufitu3586
      @loccatolufitu3586 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How many Ks has your mk5 done?

    • @Pug205GtiMi16
      @Pug205GtiMi16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Have mine the same length of time 13 years, 130k miles and going strong, gearbox rebuilt, Sachs clutch, rear springs snap over time so will be upgrading shocks to b4 or b6 Bilstein and few oem suspension components. Definitely a future classic

  • @darrel.cooper
    @darrel.cooper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Mk7 is my favourite.

    • @michaeleverson3801
      @michaeleverson3801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agree. Never had a 5, but I've owned a 3, a 6, and now a 7. The 7 is miles ahead of the other two, honestly feels more like an Audi than a VW, and the jump in torque from the 6 to the 7 was instantly noticeable.
      I also can't say enough about what a stickier set of tires does for the 7. On the OEM rubber, the car felt like it was capable of much more, but the front-end would give up and the XDS would kick-in. With better tires, it just grips, and grips, and grips. The car comes alive and reminds you that the chassis was developed by the same guy who did the previous Porsche GT3.

    • @yes8032
      @yes8032 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mk6 is also very awesome

  • @lidiyarenjan4074
    @lidiyarenjan4074 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    everyday regret selling my mk5, the best car i ever owned, period. hope i will get one one day. It had 265kms and the engine was butter smooth!

    • @pauljonkers4359
      @pauljonkers4359 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here, sold my mk5 gti last year after 12 years (I was second owner) and bought a mk7 gti ‘performance’. Still misses the fabulous seats…

  • @GODEW
    @GODEW 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Mate..please try MK6 you not regret I believe that's the Golf which cannot be replaced with any other Golf. Its like a toy, brilliant control so pleasant to drive and never feels like cheap from inside...what a masterpiece

    • @jmccann6735
      @jmccann6735 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mk6 was a cost cut MK5. All the good points of the MK6 are even nicer on the MK5 👀

    • @matthewsmith2787
      @matthewsmith2787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mk6 definitely has the most premium interior

    • @jmccann6735
      @jmccann6735 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewsmith2787 yooo not even..ever been in a MK7?

    • @JulitoPapitoo
      @JulitoPapitoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jmccann6735 I own an 06 GTI, I test drove an 18 GTI and I was honestly really surprised to find I prefer the MK5. I was so excited to get one out for a drive but all in all they feel very similar. The MK5 takes it for me in all the driving input areas such as steering feel, clutch feel, and suspension. I really disliked the actual steering wheel in the MK7 compared to my MK5, it's way too skinny. As for the interior in MK7, it's pretty nice, not a fan of the pedal placement and I prefer the seats in my MK5 (they're a bit narrower and hug me better), but it's still not much different or "modern" than my MK5 with the RCD330 head unit with apple carplay and android auto. I think I'll be keeping my MK5 for a while.

    • @jmccann6735
      @jmccann6735 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JulitoPapitoo A really good summary, I agree pretty much all the way. Especially with the steering wheel, only wheels I've held so far that I prefer over my MK5s are a 2020 Lexus IS F-Sport, and new-gen Porsche 911s. Drove a few MK6 GTIs and a few MK7s, but once I drove my first MK7 R, set in stone man. The R has juust a few more interior touches to give it that premium feel, and hoooly fuck a Stage 2 DSG Golf R is just...wow. Easily faster than 95% of the road, from a launch and a roll. With some good coilovers, bushings, and something like Michelin Pilot Sports (all on the R I drove), the handling was on point with my MK5 (also pretty modified) and undoubtedly superior than it, especially into the triple digits. The MK7 R in terms of tunability, durability, and overall performance and power delivery is hands down one of the best packages Volkswagen has ever manufactured.
      But stock for stock? No mods? .... MK5 GTI for sure 😁👌🏻

  • @dtprodrive
    @dtprodrive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    For me the 7/7.5 golf is the benchmark golf. I had a 7 r which I absolutely loved at the time my Mrs had a 7.5 gtd which with its lsd handled great and I had a friend with a 7 gti performance which really impressed me. They all had great build quality unlike the mk8 unfortunately

    • @andrewmontague2636
      @andrewmontague2636 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Material quality has definitely gone down a notch on Mk8, Dieselgate and an expensive electric car programme to blame, but I think the build quality is just as good as Mk7

    • @richboy900
      @richboy900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a mk7 gtd. It's not going to set the world alight but i actually love it. You can drive it hard and still see near 60mpg

  • @StakedWealth369
    @StakedWealth369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Car design is in decline as everything around. MK5 takes my vote!!

    • @angusmulcahy7946
      @angusmulcahy7946 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mk5 is arguably the worst looking generation

  • @KMFDM781
    @KMFDM781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love my MK5. I also have an MK6 and the 5 feels so much more solid and substantial. Just feels more analog even though it's not.

  • @YOYO-vl6xr
    @YOYO-vl6xr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    another mk5 gti owner...very frun to drive, very well made interior and butter smooth for everyday use...then I have the S2000 for the weekends ;=)

  • @daklown305
    @daklown305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got rid of my MK7.5 R for an MK5 GTI And I’m not even that upset about it. I love this little GTI

  • @Dwilsonmusic145
    @Dwilsonmusic145 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I absolutely loved my Mk6!

  • @jermainerobinson7098
    @jermainerobinson7098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Totally agree with everything he has said. Nice video great tribute to the golf GTI mk5👏🏾👊🏽

  • @andrewmontague2636
    @andrewmontague2636 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fascinated to watch this vid. I’m lucky to own a Mk5 and a 7.5R. The R is an amazing car, super quick, grips fantastically well in all conditions and feels so stable and safe, which makes its power so useable. You’re sensing a ‘but’ here..
    But, I love the GTI more. There’s something about the accuracy of the steering, it’s excellent balance and the eagerness of the way it delivers its power that makes it feel so special. I completely agree, Mk5 GTI is a wonderful car

    • @darrangoodman6688
      @darrangoodman6688 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that's a cracking comment, passion decides in the end ahh

    • @Alex-io6ky
      @Alex-io6ky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i own the same cars and i agree ..problem is i have two cars that car
      both good but my heart says gti is more fun but awd is quite a lot of fun also

  • @johnpownall3466
    @johnpownall3466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got a low
    Km 07 MK5 and I’m soo happy! 😍😍😍

  • @lenep9985
    @lenep9985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Mk5 gti dsg....i had was briliant...ive since had an s3 and now an rs3.....the mk5 is still my fave car...they are brilliant.
    Also we need buttons in car...its much safer and easy.

  • @paulkippax4530
    @paulkippax4530 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can not agree more Dan. loved my mk 5, shadow blue, manual!!

  • @pigeonpoo1823
    @pigeonpoo1823 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Real world comparison test. Get in, set temp, find Heart Dance, 0-60-0. Mk5 thrashes Mk8! Great video. Love to see more of these (civic, focus, Yaris)

  • @ovathere93
    @ovathere93 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had that mk5 gti. 2007 apr stage 1. My first new car. Absolute blast to drive.

  • @myob1kenobi
    @myob1kenobi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Was going to replace my MK5, but what do you replace it with? After test driving a few possible replacements decided to keep it. It now has a remap which has not only boosted performance, but made the general fuel economy better, and i've added an Android head unit which is a nice upgrade to the original, allows me to use apps like Torque pro to connect to a bluetooth OBD2 connector and see all kinds of car information.

  • @rrshowtime3900
    @rrshowtime3900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I like the Mk5 it might be a slower in a straight line than the never models, but its more 'Hot Hatch' , more nimble in the twisty stuff.

  • @DavidSmith-wn6pw
    @DavidSmith-wn6pw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've had mk5 Gti's. Love them. Totally agree with the driving position. Best there is.

  • @Whalub
    @Whalub 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just bought a 2017 mk7 and I’ve loved every second of it. I’ve never really experienced any other gti though

  • @KarlkEst
    @KarlkEst 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Golf GTI should be easy to use but the interior of mk8 is not that. Fussy climate controls, materials seem lower quality after dieselgate.

    • @Kelveron
      @Kelveron 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Too many functions placed on touchscreens, as is sadly the case with so many new cars, instead of a few easy to use short-cut buttons.

    • @richboy900
      @richboy900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I heard the mk8 is a mk7 underneath. The mk5 was designed from the ground up after mk4

    • @chrisd4432
      @chrisd4432 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Some of those interior controls- like the sliders- are just different for the sake of being different. I think it stems from VW wanting the ID3 to avoid the scorn from the Tesla fanboys button and knob hatred and they just shared the controls with the Golf/GTI. How is a rotating knob not preferable to a fussy touch slider?

    • @parvindermander5664
      @parvindermander5664 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree

    • @matthewsmith2787
      @matthewsmith2787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used to buy Golfs thinking they were good quality and solidly made, the Mk8 is just blending in at the crowd

  • @Joose
    @Joose 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'd rather have a Mk6-7.5 over either of these, by a LOT.
    And yes, I know the 6 is just an updated 5... but the updates are what made me like it.

  • @sounddiaryess
    @sounddiaryess 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i miss my MK5 was such a fun car and marked a very exciting point in my life, i think my good memories with that car make me think it is better than the MK7 R that i drove a few cars later.

  • @reitsmaassociates
    @reitsmaassociates 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having owned mk1,mk2, mk5 mk6 and mk7 golfs our fav was our manual Mk5 Gti ( a total revelation when we bought it) ,next favorite our manual Mk7 Gti, not sold on Mk 8 Gti so did a VW Arteon for our practical car and Alpine A110 for our fun car. Great review - cheers from Brisbane

  • @JohnnyGTR34
    @JohnnyGTR34 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I actually found my white mk5 on cargurus. I'm genuinely surprised by the amount of love for the mk5 in the comments, it really might be a future classic. Was expecting the mk8 to be the clear winner in the eyes of the enthusiasts. Makes me proud to have a mk5 nonetheless

  • @waynedavies8130
    @waynedavies8130 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Best car presenter in the UK.

  • @Neptune8
    @Neptune8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow ! I had a mk4 and a mk5 and considered get a mk6 a few years ago. When you told me the power figures I am absolutely astonished that vw is giving you that much power in a GTI now. My mk5 was tuned to stage 2 and was probably close to 240 hp and 270ish tq (estimates from the tuner I used ) , it felt very quick after a tune but the new gti is astonishing. Can’t imagine what it would do after a tune

  • @RickGTI2019
    @RickGTI2019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ll be sticking with my mk7.5 dsg for a while. Love the actual switches and knobs. Great video ! Thanks, RickGTI….. 🇺🇸🔧
    .

  • @hankhoh
    @hankhoh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video - many thanks! The Golf GTI 16V (Mk 2) made me a lifelong fan! Had the Mk5 R32 and still have the Mk5 and Mk7 GTI. Both are better than the Mk8 (which seems overly fussy). Am sure VW won't like your conclusion but it's the honest truth that the older car is more fun to drive!

  • @steveskipper6473
    @steveskipper6473 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Spend a few hundred quid on a modest remap (don't over do it) and colour code all the black trim on your MK5 then you have car that looks and goes as well an any hot hatch around today.

  • @charlietwotimes
    @charlietwotimes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a Mark V as a daily driver so I could retire my "toy car" Volvo V50 R design to Sundays..
    the V is now my preference any time : around town shopping, quick family jaunts, long distance missions. Easily the best most well-rounded car I've ever owned.. and it's sixteen years old.

  • @urbandadtv
    @urbandadtv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You Cant go wrong with a good MK5! not to mention great gas milage, cargo space, premium audio, aesthetics of the exterior which still looks modern even after a decade! You will have to update and upgrade certain componets at a certain point but it's well worth it, even very user friendly when it comes to DIY's and maintenance! great car.

  • @Mark-nu3ej
    @Mark-nu3ej ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a 1988 Mk2 (kept it 11 years and 216k miles) that is still one of the most fun driving cars I've owned. Currently have a 2010 Mk6 (12 years now) and really like it as well but not as fun as the Mk2, which was super light and could be thrown around for lots and lots of fun! Great video and it looks like I'll need to try a Mk5 someday 😀

  • @seinsmeld13
    @seinsmeld13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My MK5 GTI was wonderful. I sold it to a friend that recently broke up with his wife. When I sold it it had 291,000 km on the dial. Today she's still running now with 360,000 km on her. What a fantastic car. I miss her.😁

    • @Miaxkash
      @Miaxkash ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, is this with the original engine ?

    • @seinsmeld13
      @seinsmeld13 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Miaxkash Yes it was the original engine. Great car, I miss her.

    • @Miaxkash
      @Miaxkash ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seinsmeld13 wow, mine just clocked a healthy 200,000km. I love mine so much, I can only imagine how you feel.

    • @seinsmeld13
      @seinsmeld13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Miaxkash I would have kept my GTI however a close friend od mine split up with his wife and needed a car so I sold him my GTI. What can you do, eh?

  • @redliner6940
    @redliner6940 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I got the Mk5 GTi remapped stage 1 , now its around 250-260hp , don't think I will be upgrading to the new one as I love manual and love the way It drives

    • @about48hotchiks
      @about48hotchiks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When you remapped it did you have to put it on a dyno? I’ve got a 2007 GTI and want to get it remapped

    • @redliner6940
      @redliner6940 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@about48hotchiks you don't need to Dyno... Just get it mapped all good. Unless you want 300hp then you will have to start changing lots of things . .turbo ..intercooler...etc etc and do stage 2 remap

    • @s9523pink
      @s9523pink 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here!

  • @christopherleetrf
    @christopherleetrf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Get a Mk5 Gti and install a modern stereo, say, RCD330, and you can use it like any modern hot hatches.

  • @rongambol9910
    @rongambol9910 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My first VW was a Mk6 manual GTI with adaptive dampers. I absolutely loved it and clocked up 240k km before replacing it with another Mk6, this time a dsg with adaptive dampers. Good car but lost the magic of the manual. That is now gone, changed for a Mk7.5 Golf R. They come fully loaded in Australia, the only options being sunroof and upgraded audio. I love the R, fast, comfortable, great handling and understated, just the way I like it, but the Mk6 manual GTI remains my favorite.

  • @RedNffc
    @RedNffc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Mk6 my favourite

  • @KnightFilms32
    @KnightFilms32 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a Mark V last year and it has been the most pleasant car I have ever had. its my first one and it just feels so amazing and so comfortable.

  • @rayoflight39
    @rayoflight39 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my friend just sold his 7gti for a manual 5 gti bwa with 63000km on the clock... I CANNOT wait to detail it and test drive it

  • @kevinoshaughnessy2752
    @kevinoshaughnessy2752 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Class Video Dan as detailed as ever

  • @yes8032
    @yes8032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No matter what I’d always get the mk5 over the new one just a great design and sound

  • @camf7522
    @camf7522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Sadly, the MK5 still looks better.

    • @TroyHR123
      @TroyHR123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      5 door though more practical lose the clean lines/proportions you get with a 3 door. Same can be said for all hot hatches except the Yaris GR, unfortunately.

  • @sergei.perlov
    @sergei.perlov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The MK7 GTi is the best car ever, proved by this video!

  • @a2jettagli
    @a2jettagli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Completly agree with your comments on the MK5. Fun review.

  • @HuggybearFezzy
    @HuggybearFezzy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video, nice to see this concept of comparing the latest model with what you consider to be best previous model or the game changer model. Would be good to see more of this...say, for example, compare the new BMW M5 LCI (F90) against the BMW M5 (E39) a model that changed from straight six to V8 format used in the current model.

    • @rayoflight39
      @rayoflight39 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ey dude... that E39 still does things to some of us humans... lol

    • @HuggybearFezzy
      @HuggybearFezzy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rayoflight39 oh definitely! I remember seeing my first one when I was 16 and always aspired to own one.

  • @swanblake
    @swanblake 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Should have been Mk5 vs Mk7. The Mk8 is a step backwards.

    • @matthewsmith2787
      @matthewsmith2787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hate it, seen them in the flesh and not a fan of it

  • @gbc7344
    @gbc7344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had the mk5 from new 54 plate( well ex demonstrator anyway as there was a 5 month wait thanks to top gear!) I did 70k miles in it in less than 3 years as I loved driving it so much and it was faultless..I always said I’d get another but decided to recently get a 7.5 ( don’t like the mk8) which is a fun car too but on balance I still prefer the mk5 even tho it used to get through front tyres like no other car I’ve owned.
    Always been a fan of the gti though ..I’ve also owned 2 mk1’s, 2 mk2’s also ( oh and a vr6 back in the day)

    • @pauljonkers4359
      @pauljonkers4359 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here, still misses the excellent seats of the mk5 gti…

  • @russelltolley7947
    @russelltolley7947 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've owned a mk1 Campaign GTI, a mk2 16v GTI and a mk5 GTI. The mk1 was great for its time, the valver was better but the mk5 is just brilliant. As you say, it still feels like a modern sports hatch. Great review of a great car.

  • @inbloom08
    @inbloom08 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Let's see how that touch sensitive crap is going to last after 10 years haha.

  • @jamestrousdale7511
    @jamestrousdale7511 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    checked the MK5 reg and it has 3k miles on it, what a gem

  • @ko0kymonster
    @ko0kymonster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love my MK V - same candy white color too! Great review.

  • @gretschludwigdrummer209
    @gretschludwigdrummer209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That front grill is grotesque on the mk8 !!!

    • @rayoflight39
      @rayoflight39 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the back just looks like a polo

  • @danielfl.9347
    @danielfl.9347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The MK5 is such a fun car

  • @Yhoothoob
    @Yhoothoob 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve got a Mk5 GT Sport 140, blue, 18 inch alloys, full leather interior. Just about to put it on the market.

  • @Nissannx2000svg
    @Nissannx2000svg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my 7.5 and I throw the keys to any of my friends to let them experience it, I always say “Don’t be afraid get on it” and the always come back with a smile on their faces.

  • @CallumMcK99
    @CallumMcK99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Running the Polo GTI (9N3) that came out alongside the MKV, always makes me smirk when required to do so.

  • @Shortstahp
    @Shortstahp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im a car salesman at nissan and still choose to drive my 2006 vw mk5 with 180k miles. Its about 45 minute commute every day and I still would take it over any used car on our lot with less miles/5+ years newer

    • @ChutneyGames
      @ChutneyGames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have about the same time for my commute and I still haven't gotten tired of driving my mkV, great car

  • @scott8200_0
    @scott8200_0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    had my mk5 gti 5 years now only 84k on clock. been thinking about getting mk7 performance pack but after this video might just keep it

  • @zaamuro8408
    @zaamuro8408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mk5 still my favourite looking GTI

  • @TTPDrums
    @TTPDrums 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m currently in the market for a mk5/6. I assume prices have shot up since this video as I can’t find anything decent below 7k!

  • @BertoniBertone
    @BertoniBertone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That EA888 has been knocking around , I think , since the Gen 2 Mk V, so quite how the Big VAG has got the front to charge punters that kinda dough for the Mk 8 is beyond me. Making up for the bill DieselGate hole in its balance sheet, no doubt.....

    • @Tonyc_1987
      @Tonyc_1987 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am pretty sure you mean the ea113. The ea888 was introduced in the MK6 GTI. The mk6 R was the last VW to use the ea113.

    • @BertoniBertone
      @BertoniBertone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tonyc_1987 Think I said Mk V Gen 2 or ‘update/facelift’....Call it what you like. Mmm: thought V meant 5 in Roman numerals ? A misunderstanding perhaps ?

    • @Tonyc_1987
      @Tonyc_1987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BertoniBertone I stand corrected. I was talking specifically about the Australian market. Looks like things are different in the US market for the mk5. 😊

    • @BertoniBertone
      @BertoniBertone 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tonyc_1987 And indeed Europe & UK where I reside. With VW’s ‘de-contenting’ regime added in for good measure, looks like they’re trying to short-change the average punter. South Korea , I suspect, will be the beneficiary since they’ve hoovered up a lot of German talent....

  • @patrykgti5893
    @patrykgti5893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mk5 is already a classic to me, mk5 was way ahead of its time

  • @G.Uppercut123
    @G.Uppercut123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m gonna be completely honest, Chris Martin is a wonderful musician, but an even greater car journalist

  • @SED347
    @SED347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Used to have an MK5 and used to love it... But I wish the DSG problem didn't exist...

  • @JesseDishner
    @JesseDishner 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for being honest! Love the MK5! I was selling VWs when they first came out and I absolutely loved it.

  • @MH-ro1ix
    @MH-ro1ix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Agreed 👍 have to say tho always thought the TFSI sounded much better than the newer TSIs sounds deeper I feel the mk6 and mk7 GTIs and R sound far to tinny

  • @JakobusVdL
    @JakobusVdL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So a Leather Upholstered Mk5, with a stage 1 upgrade, and suspension refresh for the cost of three years depreciation on the Mk8?

  • @67philipo
    @67philipo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent review as usual..

  • @pauledmonds3249
    @pauledmonds3249 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I looked long and hard at Golf GTI's recently when changing cars. I had a Civic type R GT . Just for info I actually bought a 2009 Bmw 330d SE. Full dealer history, 70K miles. I enjoyed test driving Mk5 and 6 Golfs, but the BM just murders them in real world driving situations. The torque is insane and the power is instant and devastating. I paid £7500 for the BM.

    • @cacaisaac
      @cacaisaac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thats cool, i test drove 2005 e46 M3 and in my opinion it didnt come close to how fun my mk7 GTI is (or really how sweet my friends mk5 jetta 2.5 is) sure, the BM is much faster but something about the way a volkswagen feels on the road just has me hooked!

  • @dudndadn12212
    @dudndadn12212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a '06 GTI in united gray, miss it dearly. Wish I would have never sold it.

  • @johnelcock7734
    @johnelcock7734 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I owned a mk5 gti and loved the car it was amazing to own and drive not missing

  • @itsallinthewrists4251
    @itsallinthewrists4251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've got a mk5 gti with under 70k on it. Standard everything just better brakes and stage 1 tune. Transformed it. However Ive had the flashing PRNDS on the dash twice now on it gets stuck in first gear. I have to turn engine off for it to reset. Only happened 2 times in 2 years though and serviced dsg 4k miles ago. Really hope its not the mechatronics box.

  • @diydrivenGA
    @diydrivenGA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved the MK5 when it released in the US but reliability issues and overall build quality down the stretch had me looking elsewhere on the used market later on. The MK6 had a great desogn and feel but it wasnt until the MK7 (after initial turbo issues) that their reliability improved significantly. VW's continue to have some issues with design and ease of maintenance for the average owner but the MK7 that I currently own has been a great car and my favorite hatch of the hatches I've driven even when compared to the R (at least to me).

  • @elliotmeek3375
    @elliotmeek3375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love my Mk5 GTI Edition 30

  • @marka1712
    @marka1712 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The mk8 is absolutely hideous. Regardless of performance or ride quality or anything else, it looks like a space age turd and I hate them. Going stage 2 on stock turbo, good springs and shocks, upgraded pads on oem brake system and you’ve got very little invested and an amazing car to drive. I have 192k miles and have done clutches and minor repairs only and I drive the hell out of it every time I get in it. Interior is perfect except the fabric finally coming loose on headliner and door panels. Currently working on repairing that.

  • @mikeyap4159
    @mikeyap4159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still have my MK5 now with a K04 hybrid and KW suspension, just brilliant.
    The MK5 was VWs 1st foray into EPS but the steering is nicely weighted and very telepathic sadly missing in the subsequent generations!

  • @jul_blank_552
    @jul_blank_552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mk5 also looks the best for me. I love the design. Especially in white it's bomb

  • @sbottig001
    @sbottig001 ปีที่แล้ว

    had my 2006 Mk5 since 2010, just changed the front seat covers to original trim cloths to the vehicle, (was lucky enough to get new old stock for a fraction of dealers price) I will be updating the media player to an MIB STD2 PQ, I'll be keeping it for another 8 to 10 years, yep you heard right, btw, have you ever opened and closed the doors on a Mk5 Jetta, so solid and well made, it would have to be as good or better than any Merc

  • @smiler921
    @smiler921 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’ve never really thought the mk5 has the looks for a Gti. Mk7-7.5 definitely much preferred to either of these

  • @eppyz
    @eppyz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How does the MK5 stack up against the 7.5? Seems everyone felt the 7 and 7.5 were the best since the 5. Or am I incorrect in that assumption?

    • @jaketurner3890
      @jaketurner3890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I went from a 5 to a 7.5.
      The 7.5 has the advantage on fuel economy, the differential, brakes, and arguably looks.
      The 5 was put together much better and the DSG shifted faster under load. Because it looks old people underestimate it's performance which was also fun. BUT the DSG was rougher at low speed.

    • @eppyz
      @eppyz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jaketurner3890 Well if you look up shift actuation times for the DSG for the 5 and the 7.5 DSG the 7 speed is actually faster. It must just feel that it isn't when your driving it? Don't forget the 7.5 has different drive modes that the 5 didn't have, and when the 7.5 is in sport the DSG will shift faster than the 5. I never had a 5 but I did have a MK6 for 5 1/2 yrs. I agree that the interior build quality is not as good. You notice it in the plastics on the door cards and how things fit together on the inside. I also think the MK6 was quieter going down the road, while the 7.5 has more road noise and wind noise. I also think the 7.5 rides much stiffer, but then again, it handles much better as a result. Fuel Economy is excellent. I did a road trip from Prescott, AZ to Gilla Bend, AZ and went 211 miles on 4.2 gallons of gas, you can do that math, but its right at 50mpg. That is gong on average speed of 65 mph. So that is frickin amazing. All and all I feel the best comparo to the MK5 is the 7 and 7.5. That is a huge compliment for both.

    • @jaketurner3890
      @jaketurner3890 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 5 did have a sport mode that only affected the DSG instead of the steering and DSG like the 7.5. The DQ250 shifted harder than the DQ381 does but that makes the 7 speed much much smoother and a little more refined.
      The 7.5 is a great car but I don't know it's a huge improvement over where the 5 set the bar.

    • @eppyz
      @eppyz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jaketurner3890 My MK6 didn't have a sport mode on the DSG, I mean it had the "S" on the shifter but all that did was wind out the gears more didn't change the actual speed of the sifts like the 7.5 DSG does. Is there a huge difference between the cars? Yes probably from its construction and build that we cant see, but from the driving experience they both are very similar and maybe that was the whole idea VW had? To get its mojo back 😎

  • @Michael-ou6lu
    @Michael-ou6lu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    worth mentioning you can upgrade the head unit in the MK5 to RCD330 it's plug and play with Android Auto and Bluetooth. The unit is 200-300GBP but well worth it.

  • @ps36081
    @ps36081 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mk5 Golf modern classic.
    Since they used Multilink Rear Suspension like the Focus and Civic EP3