The 7 lies are at these time stamps. 1:12 If I feel it, it must be true 14:38 Follow your heart 26:45 Love is affirming everything I feel 35:25 Faith is the opposite of knowledge 46:44 Humans are the product of blind, unguided, evolution 57:59 You are the one you've been waiting for 1:08:24 A good God wouldn't judge
I also love how a random accident like the big bang can produce and sustain orderly laws to sustain itself that always operate exactly as they should.. Such a random coincidence consider disorder tends to only produce more disorder .
I am not sure you feel about it and I assume that your plate is full but a potential thing to post would be to break these longer talks out in parts or a highlight video. When I see your posts for 60min and beyond, it’s hard to want to click on that.
I cried for weeks when I learned our hearts are “desperately wicked”. Because I knew it was true but had been told my whole life “follow your heart”. What an amazing teacher she would be. I love her energy, so sweet and creative.
Right on the road to being born again God I got a simpke job and lives in the Colorado mountains in small a town w one stop sign where they made a short road to get to the Grocery store; rhe only light was warning for the fire trucks. I did this to study my Bible with no distractions. When I saw the truth of my wickedness in regard to this it was a foundation for my need od Redemption.
@@nicolab2075 people's *hearts* are desperately wicked. If untrained and uninhibited they will commit all manner of harm to themselves and those around them. We have a lot of societal infrastructure to inhibit and train some of that, but do not confuse civilization for the natural state, and do not assume civilization alone, even one as successful as ours, is enough.
@@nicolab2075 Most people you or I encounter have many layers of the weight of centuries of civilization and socialization on and around them, creating the sustained miracle of polite society. Get yourself uninhibited and see what happens, or just pay attention to how many selfish or outlandish impulses you reject internally.
Another kids’ exercise idea: have the kids draw their own treasure maps based on where they feel the treasure should be then follow their own maps, finding no treasure at all. And then hand out the real treasure map written by the one who knows where it really was hidden all along.
So many divorces and broken families because someone needed "to follow their heart" and "life their best life." Love is covenant self-control, and sacrifice. Following your heart should not break others. ~xoxo
As a dad of 4 kids, 1-6 years old, I am so excited about going through this material with them!!! Let’s teach good thinkers!!! Thank you for this Mike and Elizabeth!
You might want to check out Tuttle Twins, which are books and videos for kids that teach correct history of America, plus finance and other practical topics that kids will need to know in order to live a productive life based on truth and time-tested methods that work.
Watched this with my 10 year old daughter today and it reaffirmed much of what I’ve been teaching her for years, but I’m sure it helped hearing it from someone who is not Mom. Lol We paused and talked throughout it and talked afterwards and it was great. Thank you both :)
Yes. I was just checking out Elizabeth's site. I thinking of getting the curriculum for my person devotional/study use. God has given Elizabeth a gift that has enabled her to uncover some root lies of the enemy, and his sinful "I want to be like God" mentality. (Isaiah 14:12-14)
Confession... I'm guilty at 56 years old! The Spirit has been convicting my worldview and This! is God-sent and is so much more than a study for our kids. Elizabeth, I pray you have an upcoming book! May we all get unplugged❣🙏🔎👑
On my channel, I have a video from early July, “Why Did Jesus Have to Die?” I invite you to watch it and pray it will encourage also also and strengthen your faith.
@@optimisticallycynical.814 "And the idea of humans evolving doesn't feel right" what about the first lie.. "If I feel it, it must be true" The idea of evolution not feeling right should have no bearing on it's trueness.. according to the video anyway. The irony of Christians talking about the truth lol. Good day, may one day everyone know the truth is hidden, and anyone who's claimed to know it was after something unrelated. Evolution may not be 100% complete and true, but it's at least trying to be self-consistent.
@@grimfada "But how does a mind tuned to maximize survival require attaining anything true from our surroundings. For example, escaping a tiger can result from a plethora of false beliefs about tigers and their dangerousness to humans." First, tuned to maximize survival is only a trend in evolution. It is essentially a random process, but the one's who produce more offspring and live long enough to produce more offspring are more likely to survive and be present in the world. I'll concede that the truth is not exclusively required to survive a tiger attack, but I'll also argue that the truth is more effective in more situations. If we want to survive things that haven't even happened yet we need to seek the truth about it. We are no longer struggling to survive the tiger of today, but the collapse of the future as well. "If the theory of evolution is produced by a brain not tuned to attain truth but to survive, the theory and any thought whatsoever has nothing to do with truth. Survival is all that matters." Here again, I would argue that the truth is very beneficial to survival, especially if we have gotten to a place where we don't have to worry much about tigers today, but our threats are abstract visions of the future that may or may not come to pass, the truth is a key part of this survival strategy. "Self-consistency is not, in the other hand, a measuring stick that does good for you. A murderer intent on killing and willing to take action can self-consistent in their worldview, but still wrong in doing so." yes, I agree with this 100%, which is why I said "Evolution may not be 100% complete and true, but it's at least trying to be self-consistent." I didn't say that self-consistency was proof that evolution is true, it's just that being self-inconsistent would disprove it, like the king james bible is disproven as the inerrant word of god by contradicting itself. I don't think evolution is the complete answer, I don't think the complete answer is even necessarily knowable, which is my main point. If someone is telling you know the complete answer, but won't show their work.. I would be very skeptical, but that's just me. I only have a tenuous control over my own mind, I do not seek to try to control other's minds. "Life just does not come from non-life, an empirical fact." I don't think this is a proven, empirical fact. It's from a place of bias that you believe this to be true, even though you could not know. I don't know the state of research in this field, but regardless, there is no way to exhaust every possibility to determine it is impossible, especially in the timescale of a lab scientist. Just because life has not sprung from a vat of amino acids over the last few decades in a lab, does not mean it's impossible within the context of the entire cosmos. Again, I'm not saying life came from non-life as an empirical fact.. I'm saying we don't know.. so, quit knocking on my door and telling me I'll see grandma again if I join this group and give my heart to Jesus, it's kind of sick, really this is how I feel. I wish everyone a good and fruitful life, but I don't know the answers, and I don't claim to.
I am a single mom, raised in a Christian household, co-parenting a young son with a blasphemous co-parent. As I have been getting in the Word, searching for my purpose in God's kingdom and trying to establish values for my son to form his own beliefs, of course praying he chooses Jesus through his own accord, my work is cut out for me. Thank you for providing this video. It is BADLY needed in these times where it is becoming blatantly obvious that there is no escaping world views, i.e. ads on the side a public buses endorsing hyper-sexualized behavior and homosexuality.
This is on your shoulders, and you alone are his teacher. Live it. Inculcate. My childrens' father was a narcissist, and I wish I knew what this was before I married him. What I found the most effective was talking and modeling everything discussed here (and other lies kids believe) every day. On the way to school, at the dinner table, while doing the laundry and cleaning the litter box. We made it. My kids are now adults with strong faith. Thank God.
@@Nat-cn3bx the church is the israelites not a mixture of heathen ethnicities as its written so stop lyin 👇 (Acts 7:37-38) this that Moses that said unto the children of ISRAEL this is he(Christ) that was in the "CHURCH" that was in the wilderness (Psalm 74:2) remember thy "CONGREGATION" which thou has purchased of old the rod of thine inheritance which thou hast redeemed this "MT ZION" wherein thou hast dwelt (Galatians 1:22) and was known by face unto the churches of JUDEA which were "in" Christ (1st Corinthians 15:9) for I(paul) am the lest of the apostles because i persecuted "THE CHURCH OF GOD" (Ephesians 5:21) even as Christ is the head of the "CHURCH" and HE is the saviour of the "BODY" (Ephesians 1:22-23) and gave him to be the head over all things to the "CHURCH" which is his "BODY" (Revelation 21:22) I saw no temple for the LORD God almighty and the lamb are the temple aka body of Christ (Revelation 11:1-2) saying rise and measure the temple of God(aka body of Christ) and those that worship therein -but the court that is without the temple leave out and measure it not for it is given unto the "gentiles" (Numbers 1:51) no "strangers" can enter the temple by penalty of death / its the same OT and NT
funny, at 10 min in, I cringed at how much of a strawman they seemed to be setting up and after listening to the whole thing, I pretty much saw just this. I always laugh at this kind of stuff that says, "we're not telling them what to think, but how to think". This is a thin veil of genuine desire, wrapped in indoctrination.
Hi B Patt - I'm so glad I saw your comment because my son is 9 years old and I wasn't sure if it would be good for him. I'll buy the curriculum! Thank you! 💖
Sandra Ward, the only thing I wish i could do differently about doing this program with my daughter is that I would like at least another child or 2 to do alongside with her. We're are not a homeschooling family, so let's just say she is not a big fan of having to through a 45 min class at home. Having another child can add to the discussion, some of the activities prescribed would be more fun and they could add to each other's experien e going through it.
A patient I work with introduced me to Pastor Mike’s channel recently and I was hooked instantly! Just watched this video and wanted to share I do the same thing Elizabeth’s program does but with adults and adolescents. Core beliefs start young and because no one had a program like hers when we were growing up, I am called to share how to tie a Biblical world view to core beliefs as adults. It is so awesome and rewarding to see the lights come on and know they are experiencing the freedom found in Jesus. Elizabeth, I support you and am thankful you are being faithful to do this important work! I’m so thankful I saw this and will share with those I treat. May the Lord always show His hand is on this work and as a result future generations think and believe correctly!
The number of times I've had to explain what true love is to even pastors and "professional" evangelists just frustrates me. Thank you for covering that. I recently got into a heated argument with a popular Christian band on social media over what love is because of their very public affirmation of homosexuality. To them, letting someone know "they are loved" is more important than actually rebuking them for choosing their homosexual lifestyle over faithfully adhering to God's will, and justified their position by claiming that pretty much every Christian man has a porn addiction so no one can rebuke anyone else. It was so unbiblical.
That last bit is truly a pathetic attack they pulled out their backside. It diverts away from the topic and is irrelevant. Yes, God loved the world so much he gave his one and only son to die on a cross that whoever believes in him shall not die but receive ever-lasting life, but he also says if you love him you will keep his commands, and that no one is worthy of him unless they forsake everything they hold dear in this world to follow after him and pick up their own cross. The one who rebukes you openly is your true friend and is better than your enemy who will soothe you with a kiss. Why? Because a true friend will tell you the truth for your benefit even if it hurts because they truly love you and don’t want you to be deceived. Your enemy wants you to stay in the comfort of your deception that leads to destruction. That don’t care what happens to you. That would love to see you be destroyed or just as miserable as they are! Lord Jesus we follow after you. Lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil, for yours is the kingdom, the power, and the glory, forever. Amen. ✝️♥️🙏🏻
@Noodle take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. It really doesn't matter what you deem to be right or wrong. It doesn't matter what thoughts you have. We all have our problems, the mistake we make is calling good what God has called evil the justify it because of how we feel about it. Did you watch the video?
Best guest yet. This cut me to the heart and I'm excited to go through the curriculum with my daughter. I've believed those lies before, too! Being able to explain these things is what is so needed, and not just for kids. I was trying to explain what this was about and had trouble. I'm going to have to watch it again and take notes. It's such a different world now. So grateful to have watched this. Thank you Pastor Mike!
This is amazing. Thank you Mike and Elizabeth THIS is what Christians have been needing. Elizabeth how amazing is it that God has made you his mouthpiece. I have literally been searching and praying on how to guide my 7 year old through this world and all these new cultures being pushed upon them. Thank you SO much and may God continue to bless you and work though the both of you!!
It's not only kids who think love means never upsetting anyone, it's strong in the church, especially with the LGBTQ... agenda. If you don't affirm their choice you're unloving, it's splitting churches here and the majority are in the "love" and affirm camp.
Just signed my 12 year old son up for this! It will go perfectly with his homeschool curriculum and he is also learning apologetics in his Sunday School class. Thank you both so much for this video! Very excited to start!
I got to watch this after my 5 year old fell asleep and I'm looking forward to getting Elizabeth's curriculum. This discussion was really helpful and not only for parents, but for anyone who needs to think critically and differently apart from our current culture. Thank you so much for covering this! Your ministry has been life-changing and this video was of exactly the same calibre. I thank God for you and what God does through you.
I’ve taught the Foundations Worldview curriculum to fifth graders and loved it! There are lots of simple object lessons to teach worldview truths to kids.
My husband and I teach 5/6 graders. We have been so blown away with the mind set of so many of them. We are having to start with the basics. I appreciate this so much. We are going to apply these 7 lies and help our kids see God's ways are higher and His thoughts are not our thoughts! Thank you so much for sharing this!!!!!🌷❤🌷❤🌷❤🌷❤🌷❤🌷❤
I’m only on second point...so far 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼 We homeschool and it’s helped a LOT to avoid the culture to shape our kids, BUT it squeezes through anyway. Still gotta be very intentional.
Hey Mike and Elizabeth! Maybe you’ll never see this but it is July 1, 2022. I am old and I watch a lot of videos, mostly Christian “-ish“. The information that you are sharing in this video is immensely valuable as I’m sure you know. Grandma‘s and grandpa‘s, moms and dads as well as teachers need to jump on this ASAP. We seem to be losing Christian ground very quickly. I plan to order some information and pass it along to my son so his four-year-old daughter will have a shot at a reasonable life. (I hope Jesus comes and gets us very soon.)
Wow this was GOD-ordained for me. I’ve been struggling with my older girls with worldview stuff and politics and the whole bit. Definitely looking into her program, too!
Miss U, miss U! What a great elementary teacher! Now those skills are being used in a new ways for God’s kingdom! Bless you Elizabeth! Steve King PS. You’re still our kids’ favorite teacher😊
Wow Elizabeth you are called teacher for our children I thank God for your yes to the calling and I pray God to call more teachers who know Christ to every school🙏
Even though we taught this to our daughter practically from birth, had her in a good church every week, homeschooled, put her in youth programs, and read the Bible and prayed in our home, she still rejected the faith as soon as she was on her own. The pull of these ideas is very strong, especially to people who want to be subject only to their own authority.
I will be praying for your daughter. I went through this with my daughter for a couple of years. Just keep praying and fasting and speaking truth in love.
I was this girl, like your daughter, and I came back to Jesus because of what my parents taught me about faith as a child. I rebeled heavily until I realized how unhappy and evil this world actually is. God brought me back into his marvellous light. He’s sovereign. Pray without ceasing. This is what my mother did and I became a prodigal daughter and my faith is stronger than ever. He uses it all. Praying for you and your daughter. I have young children too and understand the heartbreak you must feel. But don’t lose hope and pray she comes home. God is so loving and faithful. I know from direct personal experience. 💓
Stages of life. Be patient. Hold firm. Pray she lives a long life to come back around. It often happens when raising their own children. Suddenly worldly things is repulsive once again. I remember the day I heard my daughter singing the lyrics to a song I enjoyed from my hey days and coming out of her sweet little mouth I was jarred into sobriety and said, nope. Time for a change lol❤️❤️❤️
@@kathleen711 What an amazing reply, and I thank you for sharing. Thank you Jesus! I have young children and im SO afraid of this, but i know they will grow and have free will. Its hard for me to accept that they may turn away, but I know its a possibility. It helps hearing others that have come back. I came back at 51 too. Hallelujah!
Wow this is so encouraging to know that people like Elizabeth exist and what she has done, what a blessing she is bringing to so many children. Thank you Elizabeth! And thank you Mike for introducing her and her teaching to us.
This is so good! The topic of subjective truth is something I talk about with my 9 year old ALL THE TIME! She tends to feel a lot of feelings so I have to remind her that just because she feels it doesn’t mean it’s true. So these examples on how to get them to truly understand, are so great!
This is encouraging to me because it means that my church has been teaching me the right things. I am sixteen and I know that God and the Bible is the standard for right and wrong. I have trouble with sin though. I lied once when I was younger and then I lied again and again even when I don’t need to. It’s to the point where I know it’s wrong but it’s a desire that is stealing me away from God. I try to recite Bible verses that remind me that God hates lying but it’s never truly gone away. I don’t know what to do?
you hang in there. We q=will always struggle with the yoke of sin. What is most important is that your eyes is always on the Lord Jesus. You already have the right foundations as you spend your time in prayer and the Bible. You never give up. Keep going.
No human can or will ever be free of sin ❤️ just keep studying the bible and learn and grow as a person, but don't ever expect yourself to be able to never sin, it's not feasible. The only one ever who is free from sin is Jesus and we're not Jesus and we can't ever be. We are imperfect and all we can do is try to do better and better ourselves and ask for forgivness when we fail and we will be forgiven ❤️
The bible says to acknowledge God in all our ways. Jesus had given us victory over sin because of his death and Resurrection! And now we have the Holy Spirit living in us! So when you feel tempted to tell a lie, God says acknowledge Him before you go to speak. Say I am tempted to tell this lie (for whatever reason) but my Heavenly Father hates lying so I will acknowledge Him in this decision and choose not to lie. Even if it is difficult, we have victory over sin if we choose to walk in the Spirit. It doesn't mean we will never sin (we are human) but we strive to walk in the Spirit.
@@dirogue7132 you should probably bring science into this and go see someone You’re probably a pathological liar If you mean you’re lying to get out of trouble then maybe not But that’s still objectively wrong, just don’t get in trouble in the first place
One time my class had an open discussion about morality in every day life and we started by discussing the definition of "morals". A dictionary was never consulted, it was about what we felt it meant. Even though some people gave conflicting definitions we were collectively told by our teacher we were all correct. The conversation from then on was basically us talking past each other for an hour while the teacher pretended there was deep introspection happening. This is why it's hard to have conversations with non-believers about basic things like love and justice. How can we have a productive conversation about anything if we don't all agree on what it means?
As a Christian person I believe truth. I will not surrender truth to another person's point if view. However, I will not demand them to believe. Quoting someone GWC Maybe, "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still"
*WONDERFUL VIDEO!!! I think this video was the missing link of my contribution to teach and train my grandchildren the principles and values of the Truth and combat the darkness that is looming over these postmodernist generations.*
Thank you! This was fantastic. I work with children and will be getting this course to be better equipped to help them face the lies of our culture. I appreciate this so much.
Once a friend told me that in his reality, when he died, he was going to be white light speeding through the universe. So I told him, "What if in my reality, when I die, I go to heaven and I find myself speaking to you right there in heaven. Which would be the real you?" He just looked at me 😂
It's kind of funny. I am 29 years old, and I remember being taught how to "defend" myself against the first lie in school. Don't remember what grade, but it was early. We would read short paragraphs, then we would have to pick out the objective facts, and also the subjective opinions. Good stuff.
Yes. They taught us 'fact' / 'opinion' and how to recognize the two. Now that class would be one sentence long: fact and opinion are synonyms. Next topic.
Thank you for this! Officially beginning our homeschool journey this coming year. We have already been seeking out solid resources that hold strictly to a Biblical worldview. We’ve been using catechism with our 3 & 5 year olds. I love that this starts in early childhood and I will definitely be adding this to our curriculum because it is so critical to build upon.
First: looooove this talk! Second: Psalty was weird but as a kid that grew up with it, the songs stayed with me my whole life. They actually helped with the renewing of my mind. For example: learn to be a servant of all. In the song it gives examples that kids can understand. I looked it back up in the past few years to get an idea of how biblically accurate it was. I was pleasantly surprised. A current cartoon that I'm liking for biblical substance for kids is Owlegories. Anyway, thank you for covering this topic because it's so important!
I didn't get to watch this live, but am watching the replay right now and WOW! This is great! Thank you so much for helping me know how to talk to my grandchildren about this stuff!! Great show!!
This is so good. Elizabeth's practical teacher skills, the exercises are great. Kids (and even adults) are visual, they won't forget those lessons. I'll be sharing this with my entire circle of parents and teacher friends.
So appreciate this. Will be watching repeatedly! To those criticizing the fact they charge for the curriculum, things cost money. Consider the amount of time and expertise used to create it. We should support Biblical educational materials financially when we can.
As a youth pastor for 12+ years. I have heard these things so many times. I strive with all that I am to give them the truth of God’s Word vs. truth of their hearts
I have a 9 year old and a 5 year old and I was already daunted by the task of showing them by boys the truth as opposed to what the culture teaches. I Thank you for showing us a way to walk through all the different worldviews to find the real one. God bless you both!
Wow. I didn't expect to see Elizabeth on my youtube home page! I went to college with her, and my sister-in-law is her best friend. What a great discussion; keep up the great work!
Elizabeth is very rapid and logical. Casually listening to her is not possible, focused attention is required. Meaning no criticism. She is correct that we make many assumptions about how our children think and what they believe and know. We often don't know our children and for that other adults.
While I do agree with Elizabeth and Mike, that doesn't mean we shouldn't critise. I have feeling you meant that you pay attention while they are speaking, and then give the criticism afterwards (If you have any, that is).
@@thebirdaplierphd.memeology3411 I literally meant close attention is necessary for her quick delivery. She was spot on. We assume to know what our children are thinking and believing. All young people like to experiment and bounce ideas around. They don't have emotional maturity. The extremes of emotions, such as love and hate, must be tempered by wisdom, knowledge, and understanding. God and Jesus being the best source. In the process of seeking a better understanding of others it exposes our own inadequacies. That's been my experience and it's often unpleasant.
I havent watched all the video yet, but I call the "follow yout heart" the disney princess lie. I got interested in understanding mysticism and gnosticism to understand the symbols. Not to practice, by any means. Its amazing how what you see from the hollywood perspective is a religion. Their symbols and beliefs are paganism as old as time. Most false religions tell the same lie as the serpent in the garden.
Anton Lavey who was a notorious Satanist even said: "In previous centuries, the Church was the great controller, dictating morality, stifling free expression and posing as conservator of all great art and music. Instead we have TV, doing just as good a job at dictating fashions, thoughts, attitudes, objectives as did the Church, using many of the same techniques but doing it so palatably that no one notices."
@plucking...i qould like to watch lion king again and hear the teaching in that movie. Itz been too long forgotten now. Also many good movies like Horse Whisperer and many (I'm sure many I'll never see) show adultery and itz okay bcs "feelings". Itz no wonder most unbelievers have little integrity. '"Believers" also. This is a grand undermining of Jesus/Biblical teachings. Actually making the person themselves their god.
@@IzzyNChrist - where do you see this? I must live in some weird intersection of people. I have never heard anyone talk like the strawman statements these "lies" are based off of. I'm guessing this is more coming from Christians who don't like pop-culture and struggle with liking it themselves. I'm sorry, maybe aside from the gender/sex issues, this doesn't really seem like the huge problem this passive aggressive fear mongering is regurgitating.
Thank you Elizabeth for all you are doing. I am 30 years old and I just realized that I've been believing a lie that everyone has their own truth. I'm blessed to have realized this in time to teach and live as an example for my children. Your work is so important for the future! And also Mike thank you you've helped me realize this truth that has changed and saved me.
What an awesome resource. Ive been praying to god to help me teach my child discernment in the face of our culture and this showed up in my recommended videos 🙏 thank you God
Really, really good! And not just for kids! The basic, fundamental guide to truly thinking through the lies can be appropriately applied to adults. Thank you! Praying for you both.
@@jacob9158 You missed the point. A loving god cannot send people to a eternal torturous place. A just god cannot send those who have sinned to a utopia.
@@jacob9158 If you define the God of the Old Testament as the pinnacle of good, then I must be dodging a pretty fatal bullet by separating myself from that psychotic narcissist. Based on that, I should assume you have no issue with ordering your followers to invade a village and kill all the men and children, rape all the women, etc.? I mean, that's what you believe God ordered if you believe the Bible.
Thank you, Elizabeth! So many practical ways for teaching children and handling problems that arise from children believing these lies that are inadvertently taught in our society! I’m a mother and a teacher, so I appreciate these rebuttals and suggestions so much! Thank you, Mike, for having her on your show!
This is SO eye-opening!!! So much truth and wisdom here!!! Thank you VERY much for this wonderful interview!!! And thank you Elizabeth for creating these great resources ❤️
Thank You so much for this interview. This year my husband and I have decided to homeschool our three children and I can use all the guidance I can get!! I will be looking into her curriculum!! This year I’ll be teaching American History just in case your thinking about bringing another curriculum writer 😭😂😭
Great timing! My husband and I are getting ready to have our first child in late August and this was so incredibly helpful. Thank you so much! “He will feed his flock like a shepherd. He will carry the lambs in his arms, holding them close to his heart. He will gently lead the mother sheep with their young.” Isaiah 40:11 NLT Thank you, Abba for all your goodness and promises.😭💞
As a public school teacher this was very interesting and insightful. As a Christian (I only came back to Christ 2 years ago) the LORD has been working through cultural and intellectual beliefs I adopted throughout the years.
Excellent! Will be watching this with my son, who will be graduating high school in South Africa and moving to the US for college. I want him to be ready!
the secret is reinterpret what the bible says!!!! you can do it!!!!! He will spot the lies if he reads the book before the lies about the book are told.
Mike and Elizabeth.,This Vital for young People today! Thank you . I have A Brother Who forgot about God 40 years ago… ! He lives in the to the UK… Him and his wife are early 50’s Their teenage Daughters are 14 and 12.. We are Forbidden to Mention Gods name to him or his daughters.. We already have a strained relationship, due to us trying to reach out to his wife and daughters…. There are 3 of us, who are concerned for his teenage daughters, Re - Morals and Beliefs. Re- them , Going to Pubs, Drinks being Spiked, Early sexual Relationships…ETC… ! As my brother believes there’s nothing wrong with 16 yr old girls getting drunk… ! I’d love to send this, to my SIL, but never would. ! We pray for them.. regularly. 👏🏻🙏🏻 It’s Just so tough , realising ones Nieces, don’t have Jesus in their lives! 😢 Bless you. Jenny Thank you 🙏🏻
I will say, following my heart SINCERELY is what lead me to following Jesus. Not following my flesh, but following what I truly desire if I'm truly honest with myself. If I'm honest with myself, money, popularity and pleasure never fulfill me and actually have a tendency to hurt me. So if I'm honest with myself, if I TRULY follow my heart... It leads me to Christ and His ways because those ways are the true, lasting satisfaction of my soul. And in following Christ, I become more truly myself than I do trying to fit into the world.
Technically being honest with yourself is not the same as following your heart sincerely. There's a difference between your heart, and your mind/brain.
@@thebirdaplierphd.memeology3411 Sure! I use my brain to know that I should follow my heart sincerely, because Christ is my true joy. Not this world. If we want honest believers, they need to make honest choices. Or they'll fall away. We can't just adopt the religion of our parents like the Pharisees did. We need to make a true sincere choice based on what we desire more. God or this world? Which one will ACTUALLY make you happy?
Thank you so much for this interview!! I’m a 57 yr old grandmother and had no idea that the current worldview was so subjective! My youngest granddaughters were arguing about if homosexuality was wrong or not and I overheard one say “you can’t help who you love! “The other one said “the Bible says it’s wrong” then the first one said “what if you don’t know the Bible and your heart loves a girl?” I was floored! My granddaughters go to a Christian school!! I grew up just knowing there’s right and wrong-no matter what you feel. I didn’t know that this culture was pushing this false idea, everyone has their own truth and their own reality. I thought it was just a liberal idea. I’m definitely going to have a talk with these kids and try to explain Gods truth vs man’s truth and feelings, to them. I’m going to check out the website too!
This is an excellent video! I talk to my kids all the time about these things. It is so very important. I would like to say, $175 for only a years access to this curriculum is very expensive. I buy curriculum every year for my kids and nothing is this expensive and I am able to keep the curriculum for years to come. Answers in Genesis had worldview curriculum for much better price, maybe not the detail but it won’t break the bank.
"13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)" Romans 2:13-15 KJV God's law is written on the heart.
We are not under law but under grace. We have become dead to the law but alive unto Christ Jesus. The law was not made for the righteous but for the unrighteous. The Sabbath has its roots in the garden. “God blessed it and sanctified it” - but he does not command it until later as a part of the relationship and covenant that he has with the children of Israel through the Mosaic Law. I believe this institution is important to God because it is an earthly representation of the relationship that the church will have with Jesus; he is our sabbath; he is our rest from the works of the law. The verses in Exodus that command the Sabbath are to the Israelites and not to the whole world. God did not deliver the gentiles from Egypt. He did not bring them to Mount Sinai. He did not establish a covenant with the gentiles. It does include foreigners living in their cities. This is to prevent the Israelites from getting their work done on an extra day through foreigners and slaves - but more importantly that these foreigners and slaves should also rest. To reiterate: this is not a command for the whole world. It is included with the mosaic covenant with the children of Israel. There exists only two commandments for the bride of Christ. But first, let’s make a distinction between the church and the children of Israel. The Abrahamic promise is different from the mosaic covenant that was made with the children of Israel. Abraham’s promise is that of a son - specifically Isaac, and that all the people’s of the world would be blessed through Abraham - This is the Messianic promise. The prophet Jeremiah records that the covenants will change: Jeremiah 31: 31-33 31 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah. 32 It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to[a] them,[b]” declares the Lord. 33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time,” declares the Lord. “I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.” Verse 31 is clear that a new covenant is coming and that it replaces the old covenant Verse 32 contrasts it with the Old Covenant. “it will not be like...” the one made with the children of Israel via Moses. Verse 33 explains the difference. This new law will be in their hearts and minds; it is not a to-do list of laws which carry the penalty of death. Circumcision of the penis was a sign of the old covenant. The new covenant requires being born again by the Holy Spirit. This is referred to as a circumcision of the heart. Romans 2:29, Colossians 2:11. Mentioned in the Old Testament but only temporarily possible through repentance on an ongoing basis. It was not until the Old Covenant was closed and Christ sent the Holy Spirit to make this spirit circumcision permanent through the His indwelling in the believer. Gentile believers were never under mosaic law and because of the new covenant we are taught with complete clarity that we are not under the law (Romans 6:4) - which always brings death. We are under grace. shall we sin because we are not under the law? God forbid! We have two the commandments from Jesus and these are not burdensome. John 13: 34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another” This is the clearest understanding of the New Covenant which replaced the Old Covenant. It is a covenant that is to be in our hearts, because He dwells in our hearts. 2 John V5-6 5 And now, dear lady, I am not writing you a new command but one we have had from the beginning. I ask that we love one another. 6 And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love. To love Jesus is to obey him. To obey him is to love each other. I John 3: 23 23 And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. We are His church. We are not under the Mosaic law - but under grace. This is clear in Jeremiah’s prophecy because he uses the phrase “Not like the covenant I made...” It is vastly different. It is for this very reason that we have two separate portions of the Bible: the Old Testament which documents the history, Abrahamic promise, the mosaic covenant, the mosaic laws, and the prophets. In contrast to the New Testament which documents the fulfillment of messianic prophecies, the teachings of Jesus, history of the early church, our clear and only commandment of Love, and further prophecies regarding end times. Because we are the church we have no right to teach, force, or require any believer to obey Mosaic law. This includes circumcision, which Paul clearly opposed as part of the New Covenant, and it includes the sabbath. We are to encourage New Covenant law - that of love - which is superior in all ways to the Mosaic law. I firmly believe in the importance of the sabbath in the OT - but only because It demonstrates God’s attitude towards us and our rest that we have in Christ. I am convinced that the sabbath has been replaced; it has not been replaced by Sunday or any other day of the week, but by Christ himself. Many have made “keeping the sabbath” a condition of salvation by believing that if someone does not keep the sabbath then they are part of the Whore of Babylon and will suffer punishment. That is a form of legalism. Additionally, sabbath keeping is a subtle form of pride: “I keep the sabbath, God is pleased with me [but not with you.]” God is pleased with us only because Christ is in us and for no other reason. We were created for good works which is evidence of our genuine faith - and those works are expressed through love for one another, our neighbors, and our enemies. The true believer does not “go” to church. He (or she) is the church. They pray without ceasing. They sing to each other in Psalms, Hymns, and spiritual songs. They love their brothers and sisters, their neighbors, and their enemies. They make amends for their sins, they seek Christ in all things, and rest in him continuously; they do these things every day of the week. So then, does this mean that we are exempt from keeping the 10 commandments? YES, but only because we keep them from the heart: Matthew 22:37 1) Love God with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength - and we love our neighbor as we love ourselves. 2) Do not falsely imagine God to be anything but who he actually is. 3) We bear the name of Christ. Do not take his name in vain. Do not live like you are married to Christ, but fornicating with the world. 4) Christ is our rest from works of the law. 5) We must honor all lawful authority. 6) We must love our enemies and give them food and clothes. 7) We must not lust after another, which is adultery. 8) We must work to supply our owns needs and those of others. 9) We must speak the truth in love, because Christ is the truth. 10) We must be content with what we have because he has said, “I will never leave you, nor forsake you.” We are coheirs with Christ. The true church keeps the sabbath every day because we are in church every day.. The Saturday sabbath is not for the bride of Christ. Christ is the Lord of the sabbath. He is the Lord of our rest.
i thank you both for teaching me the very clear difference between what subjective and objective means. as someone so interested in languages, i still didn't have such a clear grasp of the contrast. but Elizabeth, you both made it so clear!! And Mike, i think you facilitated the right dialogue to help navigate your guest to nail that for us, your audience. You make a great team in this video! Thanks a bunch!
What an eye opener this interview was! I consider myself really grounded on my faith and still I bought some of this lies! I bought the curriculum and I cannot wait to start educating myself, my son and all kids around me! May God bless both ministries of Elizabeth Urbanowics and Mike Winger.
Wow did this come at a good time for me! People from our old Mormon ward knocked on our door 5 minutes ago to collect tithing (🤷🏻♀️) and my 6 year old suddenly realized we used to go to their church. She asked why we don’t go to that church anymore which sparked a great opportunity for me to use some tips from this interview in explaining what truth is and why it matters. 🙌
I did the truth test on my 12 year old and the answer might be dependent on how it is phrased. WHen I asked is the truth true for everyone he responded "Not always", when I clarified and said, "I'm not saying that a CLAIM of truth is true for everyone but if you knew the truth then that truth is true for everyone" then he resonded "Yes". So things might be as dark as it at first appears.
It’s not only kids; adult believers have bought into the narrative of “follow your heart,” love affirming “feelings,” etc. All Christians need to be awakened to these & many other “lies.”
As a new Christian I need this as well as my daughters. I wish my partner would listen to these too as he could really learn in ways I struggle to explain.
Wow, this is great. I am writing a curriculum right now for our church to train parents to teach their children many of these things and have family time. Would love to brain storm, sounds like she has great ideas.
Wow, thank you so much for exposing these lies and providing content to help equip our children to think Biblically. My oldest daughter is almost 5 and I feel like she would be so receptive to this curriculum. I’m so appreciative of you both and pray blessings over your ministries and outreach!
Thank you, Pastor Mike. I have been looking for materials and books to teach my granddaughters, ages 4 and 9, the absolute Truth of God's Word. They are facing such challenges at school and in the world today. After listening to your podcast today I feel that there are resources to empower me to teach them about Jesus Christ and the Bible. God bless you and your ministry!
To the first point made about feelings equate truth, I have experience dealing with this from a LDS member that I work with. His foundation is his feelings and this causes him to read his theology into the scriptures instead of pulling his theology from the scripture. It actually makes it nearly impossible to bring truth because he by default will take a verse out of context to support himself and his favorite response is, everyone interprets differently and maybe everyone is partially correct... my response is, nope... I categorically disagree with that statement.
You could point out that he doesn't interpret non-scriptural documents in this way. If your boss sends him an email with a list of tasks to complete, his interpretation of that list better be pretty close to your boss's intention in writing it! If something is unclear and your LDS friend discusses it with the rest of the coworkers, you can most often come to a pretty close agreement of the true meaning.
Critical thinking is learned. I learned by studying the Greek NT. When my 1st Bible as an adult being an Amplified Classic showed me. Oh, a word had a much fuller, more definitive answer. In reading like C.S. Lewis, Francis Schaffer, Owen, Nee. A few books with Bible in hand and HS in me I study still. And have learned and adjusted beliefs. Sometimes it is hard bcs you have a deeply ingrained belief but the Bible says otherwise. Then the cognitive dissonance can be strong. The Bible means what it says, sooo. Adjust n pray the HS brings one into ALL truth. 🕊💙
@@nicolepettit5120 this is an extremely good point! When I think about his claim on interpretation, it makes me ask, well is there reason to believe that there is a correct way to interpret something? If the answer is yes then that implies that there ought to be a wrong way as well. If the answer is no, there is not a correct way to interpret, then how can I trust what you are saying is what you are meaning to say... we would have no confidence in having any understanding from written or spoken communication. Thanks Nicole for your insightful comment!
@@mishaanton5436 Misha, great point! We tend to be prideful people... we as in most people. When we hold something as true, especially if it is for any significant amount of time, it becomes harder and harder to adjust that belief when a better argument arises or new understanding conflicts with the standing belief. I think society is stuck in a positive feedback loop and feeds on their confirmation bias, I know I struggle with it and it is very hard to set the pride aside for truth.
Thank you for this collaboration. Elizabeth I am so delighted to see your passion to help equip our children to think critically as they learn to navigate the world through the lens of Scripture. I've purchased your curriculum and I'm so excited to get this started with my kids in the fall. God bless you and your ministry. Thank you Pastor Mike for sharing your platform with Elizabeth.
One of the cruelest jokes played on our society was that we were told it is impolite to discuss politics and religion. Those two things are so important, yet my parents told me not to talk about them. I think that is why the USA is so polarized today.
Amazing presentation. Thank you for following the Lord's call on your heart and not listening to your own call. Bravo Elizabeth. Thank you Mike for giving her a stage. Encore or I can just restart the video.
So encouraged by this discussion and loving all the tips and advice for imparting these truths to our kids. I'll be getting the Foundation Worldview curriculum to use with my daughters. Thank you to you both for helping to equip us.
I remember watching Sesame Street when my nephew was little and they sang a song that said"follow your heart." And my nephew said, " We're not supposed to do that. We're supposed to follow Jesus.". He was only like 4 but he got it.
Thanks for your videos! My family and I now, once again, go to a solid through the Bible church just outside of Portland, Oregon(of all places). During Covid our former church fell apart. One of my boys goes to public school (He’s a freshman) and one is in a private Christian school (He’s a junior). I try to reinforce what you all are talking about here all of the time with them. For me it is an ongoing, uphill battle. There is a major spiritual battle in this world for the hearts, minds, and souls of everyone. Jesus Christ is the only hope - the way, the truth, and the life!
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The 7 lies are at these time stamps.
1:12 If I feel it, it must be true
14:38 Follow your heart
26:45 Love is affirming everything I feel
35:25 Faith is the opposite of knowledge
46:44 Humans are the product of blind, unguided, evolution
57:59 You are the one you've been waiting for
1:08:24 A good God wouldn't judge
LoL at thinking you're a cosmic accident of blind unguided evolution but claiming you know what right and wrong is by what you feel.
Thanks so much for posting this! Very helpful!
I also love how a random accident like the big bang can produce and sustain orderly laws to sustain itself that always operate exactly as they should..
Such a random coincidence consider disorder tends to only produce more disorder .
I am not sure you feel about it and I assume that your plate is full but a potential thing to post would be to break these longer talks out in parts or a highlight video.
When I see your posts for 60min and beyond, it’s hard to want to click on that.
@@elmerwilliams2423 same
I cried for weeks when I learned our hearts are “desperately wicked”. Because I knew it was true but had been told my whole life “follow your heart”. What an amazing teacher she would be. I love her energy, so sweet and creative.
@@nicolab2075 who??
Right on the road to being born again God I got a simpke job and lives in the Colorado mountains in small a town w one stop sign where they made a short road to get to the Grocery store; rhe only light was warning for the fire trucks. I did this to study my Bible with no distractions. When I saw the truth of my wickedness in regard to this it was a foundation for my need od Redemption.
@@nicolab2075 people's *hearts* are desperately wicked. If untrained and uninhibited they will commit all manner of harm to themselves and those around them. We have a lot of societal infrastructure to inhibit and train some of that, but do not confuse civilization for the natural state, and do not assume civilization alone, even one as successful as ours, is enough.
@@mishaanton5436 I think it just means our hearts can deceive us. It has us following societal terms of what’s right n wrong over biblical.
@@nicolab2075 Most people you or I encounter have many layers of the weight of centuries of civilization and socialization on and around them, creating the sustained miracle of polite society. Get yourself uninhibited and see what happens, or just pay attention to how many selfish or outlandish impulses you reject internally.
Another kids’ exercise idea: have the kids draw their own treasure maps based on where they feel the treasure should be then follow their own maps, finding no treasure at all. And then hand out the real treasure map written by the one who knows where it really was hidden all along.
Very Good❣️
I like that
On point.
Boom! Young minds blown. Great idea.
Great idea! Although, my son would probably make a map to my wallet.
So many divorces and broken families because someone needed "to follow their heart" and "life their best life." Love is covenant self-control, and sacrifice. Following your heart should not break others. ~xoxo
True, True, True!
A great devotional is "Don't Follow Your Heart" by Jon Bloom. I can't recommend it enough.
Very well said and so true!
This is so true! It breaks my heart that this is such a common story.
Factzzzz
She’s kind of like the female Mike Winger when she explains things - very clear and gentle teacher. Thanks for the content!!!
As a dad of 4 kids, 1-6 years old, I am so excited about going through this material with them!!! Let’s teach good thinkers!!! Thank you for this Mike and Elizabeth!
You might want to check out Tuttle Twins, which are books and videos for kids that teach correct history of America, plus finance and other practical topics that kids will need to know in order to live a productive life based on truth and time-tested methods that work.
I am a mom of 4 kids, four months to 6 years! Same boat! I just ordered this material for them too.
Watched this with my 10 year old daughter today and it reaffirmed much of what I’ve been teaching her for years, but I’m sure it helped hearing it from someone who is not Mom. Lol We paused and talked throughout it and talked afterwards and it was great. Thank you both :)
Praise God for Moms like you!
Nice 👌
AWESOME
Well done mam 👏
Inspiring mama ❤
Actually this is not just for kids
..even I beleive these lies! Thanks pastor Mike for this video!!
I thought i was the only one🤕
Yes. I was just checking out Elizabeth's site. I thinking of getting the curriculum for my person devotional/study use. God has given Elizabeth a gift that has enabled her to uncover some root lies of the enemy, and his sinful "I want to be like God" mentality. (Isaiah 14:12-14)
My sister is in the same boat ): I wish I could explain this to her, but she’s reluctant
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Confession... I'm guilty at 56 years old! The Spirit has been convicting my worldview and This! is God-sent and is so much more than a study for our kids. Elizabeth, I pray you have an upcoming book! May we all get unplugged❣🙏🔎👑
better at 56 than dead, bro.
There is already a book about this, it is called Mama Bear Apologetics. But this is great for reaching our kids step by step in structured lessons!
On my channel, I have a video from early July, “Why Did Jesus Have to Die?” I invite you to watch it and pray it will encourage also also and strengthen your faith.
@@cagr9334 Thank you!
I truly believe a fair amount of adults need to take these courses also...
Yeah , because we all know evolution isn't real. And the idea of humans evolving doesn't feel right.
I agree with you! Maybe even including myself
Agreed
@@optimisticallycynical.814 "And the idea of humans evolving doesn't feel right"
what about the first lie.. "If I feel it, it must be true"
The idea of evolution not feeling right should have no bearing on it's trueness.. according to the video anyway.
The irony of Christians talking about the truth lol.
Good day, may one day everyone know the truth is hidden, and anyone who's claimed to know it was after something unrelated.
Evolution may not be 100% complete and true, but it's at least trying to be self-consistent.
@@grimfada "But how does a mind tuned to maximize survival require attaining anything true from our surroundings. For example, escaping a tiger can result from a plethora of false beliefs about tigers and their dangerousness to humans."
First, tuned to maximize survival is only a trend in evolution. It is essentially a random process, but the one's who produce more offspring and live long enough to produce more offspring are more likely to survive and be present in the world. I'll concede that the truth is not exclusively required to survive a tiger attack, but I'll also argue that the truth is more effective in more situations. If we want to survive things that haven't even happened yet we need to seek the truth about it. We are no longer struggling to survive the tiger of today, but the collapse of the future as well.
"If the theory of evolution is produced by a brain not tuned to attain truth but to survive, the theory and any thought whatsoever has nothing to do with truth. Survival is all that matters."
Here again, I would argue that the truth is very beneficial to survival, especially if we have gotten to a place where we don't have to worry much about tigers today, but our threats are abstract visions of the future that may or may not come to pass, the truth is a key part of this survival strategy.
"Self-consistency is not, in the other hand, a measuring stick that does good for you. A murderer intent on killing and willing to take action can self-consistent in their worldview, but still wrong in doing so."
yes, I agree with this 100%, which is why I said "Evolution may not be 100% complete and true, but it's at least trying to be self-consistent."
I didn't say that self-consistency was proof that evolution is true, it's just that being self-inconsistent would disprove it, like the king james bible is disproven as the inerrant word of god by contradicting itself. I don't think evolution is the complete answer, I don't think the complete answer is even necessarily knowable, which is my main point. If someone is telling you know the complete answer, but won't show their work.. I would be very skeptical, but that's just me. I only have a tenuous control over my own mind, I do not seek to try to control other's minds.
"Life just does not come from non-life, an empirical fact."
I don't think this is a proven, empirical fact. It's from a place of bias that you believe this to be true, even though you could not know. I don't know the state of research in this field, but regardless, there is no way to exhaust every possibility to determine it is impossible, especially in the timescale of a lab scientist. Just because life has not sprung from a vat of amino acids over the last few decades in a lab, does not mean it's impossible within the context of the entire cosmos.
Again, I'm not saying life came from non-life as an empirical fact.. I'm saying we don't know.. so, quit knocking on my door and telling me I'll see grandma again if I join this group and give my heart to Jesus, it's kind of sick, really this is how I feel. I wish everyone a good and fruitful life, but I don't know the answers, and I don't claim to.
I am a single mom, raised in a Christian household, co-parenting a young son with a blasphemous co-parent. As I have been getting in the Word, searching for my purpose in God's kingdom and trying to establish values for my son to form his own beliefs, of course praying he chooses Jesus through his own accord, my work is cut out for me. Thank you for providing this video. It is BADLY needed in these times where it is becoming blatantly obvious that there is no escaping world views, i.e. ads on the side a public buses endorsing hyper-sexualized behavior and homosexuality.
This is on your shoulders, and you alone are his teacher. Live it. Inculcate. My childrens' father was a narcissist, and I wish I knew what this was before I married him. What I found the most effective was talking and modeling everything discussed here (and other lies kids believe) every day. On the way to school, at the dinner table, while doing the laundry and cleaning the litter box. We made it. My kids are now adults with strong faith. Thank God.
@@winniecash1654 Thank you! This is encouraging.
I’m only 10 minutes in but I already want to use these things in our church class curriculum for young kids.
I paused at the same time to post this exact same thing! Agreed! I already want this curriculum for our kid’s church classes
@@Nat-cn3bx the church is the israelites not a mixture of heathen ethnicities as its written so stop lyin
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(Acts 7:37-38) this that Moses that said unto the children of ISRAEL this is he(Christ) that was in the "CHURCH" that was in the wilderness
(Psalm 74:2) remember thy "CONGREGATION" which thou has purchased of old the rod of thine inheritance which thou hast redeemed this
"MT ZION" wherein thou hast dwelt
(Galatians 1:22) and was known by face unto the churches of JUDEA which were "in" Christ
(1st Corinthians 15:9) for I(paul) am the lest of the apostles because i persecuted "THE CHURCH OF GOD"
(Ephesians 5:21) even as Christ is the head of the
"CHURCH" and HE is the saviour of the "BODY"
(Ephesians 1:22-23) and gave him to be the head over all things to the "CHURCH" which is his "BODY"
(Revelation 21:22) I saw no temple for the LORD God almighty and the lamb are the temple aka body of Christ
(Revelation 11:1-2) saying rise and measure the temple of God(aka body of Christ) and those that worship therein -but the court that is without the temple leave out and measure it not for it is given unto the "gentiles"
(Numbers 1:51) no "strangers" can enter the temple by penalty of death / its the same OT and NT
@@tomhodgeson8223 we know who you are. Jesus wins and those who follow Him are saved from what will happen to your side. Rebuked!
funny, at 10 min in, I cringed at how much of a strawman they seemed to be setting up and after listening to the whole thing, I pretty much saw just this. I always laugh at this kind of stuff that says, "we're not telling them what to think, but how to think". This is a thin veil of genuine desire, wrapped in indoctrination.
@@ardbegthequestion I'm sorry you can't see the truth presented here 😳🙁
I do her curriculum with my 8 years old daughter. I love it!
Do you have a link to her curriculum by any chance? I'm on the hunt for some teaching resources for my school aged kids
@@clairepalmer840 Hey 👋 It's in the description area. 🙏
Hi B Patt - I'm so glad I saw your comment because my son is 9 years old and I wasn't sure if it would be good for him. I'll buy the curriculum! Thank you! 💖
Sandra Ward, the only thing I wish i could do differently about doing this program with my daughter is that I would like at least another child or 2 to do alongside with her. We're are not a homeschooling family, so let's just say she is not a big fan of having to through a 45 min class at home. Having another child can add to the discussion, some of the activities prescribed would be more fun and they could add to each other's experien e going through it.
This teacher has been more theologically/philosophically insightful than all the public school teachers I’ve had in 20 years of living on this earth
Wow. This lady is just so gentle yet DEEP!!! She's anointed by God for this clearly
A patient I work with introduced me to Pastor Mike’s channel recently and I was hooked instantly! Just watched this video and wanted to share I do the same thing Elizabeth’s program does but with adults and adolescents. Core beliefs start young and because no one had a program like hers when we were growing up, I am called to share how to tie a Biblical world view to core beliefs as adults. It is so awesome and rewarding to see the lights come on and know they are experiencing the freedom found in Jesus. Elizabeth, I support you and am thankful you are being faithful to do this important work! I’m so thankful I saw this and will share with those I treat. May the Lord always show His hand is on this work and as a result future generations think and believe correctly!
I can't stop thinking, "Is it FEEL, or is it REAL!?"
What a great phrase for a quick perspective check!
Remember this when someone says the word faith
For real. 😉
But seriously, that is fantastic!
The number of times I've had to explain what true love is to even pastors and "professional" evangelists just frustrates me. Thank you for covering that. I recently got into a heated argument with a popular Christian band on social media over what love is because of their very public affirmation of homosexuality. To them, letting someone know "they are loved" is more important than actually rebuking them for choosing their homosexual lifestyle over faithfully adhering to God's will, and justified their position by claiming that pretty much every Christian man has a porn addiction so no one can rebuke anyone else. It was so unbiblical.
That last bit is truly a pathetic attack they pulled out their backside. It diverts away from the topic and is irrelevant.
Yes, God loved the world so much he gave his one and only son to die on a cross that whoever believes in him shall not die but receive ever-lasting life, but he also says if you love him you will keep his commands, and that no one is worthy of him unless they forsake everything they hold dear in this world to follow after him and pick up their own cross.
The one who rebukes you openly is your true friend and is better than your enemy who will soothe you with a kiss.
Why? Because a true friend will tell you the truth for your benefit even if it hurts because they truly love you and don’t want you to be deceived. Your enemy wants you to stay in the comfort of your deception that leads to destruction. That don’t care what happens to you. That would love to see you be destroyed or just as miserable as they are!
Lord Jesus we follow after you. Lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil, for yours is the kingdom, the power, and the glory, forever. Amen. ✝️♥️🙏🏻
Jip, I asked by ex-pastor how is putting someone's eternal salvation on the line by twisting what the Bible says to be socially acceptable, loving?
Mind if I ask the name of the band? I don’t listen to Christian bands who abandon basic Bible principles
Strawman argument is a logical fallacy. This is proof of their feelings over facts type Christianity
@Noodle take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. It really doesn't matter what you deem to be right or wrong. It doesn't matter what thoughts you have. We all have our problems, the mistake we make is calling good what God has called evil the justify it because of how we feel about it. Did you watch the video?
Best guest yet. This cut me to the heart and I'm excited to go through the curriculum with my daughter. I've believed those lies before, too! Being able to explain these things is what is so needed, and not just for kids. I was trying to explain what this was about and had trouble. I'm going to have to watch it again and take notes. It's such a different world now. So grateful to have watched this. Thank you Pastor Mike!
This is amazing. Thank you Mike and Elizabeth THIS is what Christians have been needing. Elizabeth how amazing is it that God has made you his mouthpiece. I have literally been searching and praying on how to guide my 7 year old through this world and all these new cultures being pushed upon them. Thank you SO much and may God continue to bless you and work though the both of you!!
Your best guest to date
Definitely coming back for a second watch.
Lol that statement can have two meanings. I was like "woah! He's married." Then I read it again and saw it's more "Your best guest so far" or sth
@@strangerinmoscow6858 I thought the same thing!
It's not only kids who think love means never upsetting anyone, it's strong in the church, especially with the LGBTQ... agenda. If you don't affirm their choice you're unloving, it's splitting churches here and the majority are in the "love" and affirm camp.
I wish Elizabeth was my child’s teacher - so secular in Australia and this is sorely needed.
Just signed my 12 year old son up for this! It will go perfectly with his homeschool curriculum and he is also learning apologetics in his Sunday School class. Thank you both so much for this video! Very excited to start!
I got to watch this after my 5 year old fell asleep and I'm looking forward to getting Elizabeth's curriculum. This discussion was really helpful and not only for parents, but for anyone who needs to think critically and differently apart from our current culture. Thank you so much for covering this! Your ministry has been life-changing and this video was of exactly the same calibre. I thank God for you and what God does through you.
This is absolute gold - thank you Pastor Mike for making room for this conversation and thank you Elizabeth for making these resources available.
Ehhh
I’ve taught the Foundations Worldview curriculum to fifth graders and loved it! There are lots of simple object lessons to teach worldview truths to kids.
My husband and I teach 5/6 graders. We have been so blown away with the mind set of so many of them. We are having to start with the basics. I appreciate this so much. We are going to apply these 7 lies and help our kids see God's ways are higher and His thoughts are not our thoughts! Thank you so much for sharing this!!!!!🌷❤🌷❤🌷❤🌷❤🌷❤🌷❤
So much better than “you are enough “ is “I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.”
I’m only on second point...so far 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
We homeschool and it’s helped a LOT to avoid the culture to shape our kids, BUT it squeezes through anyway. Still gotta be very intentional.
Hey Mike and Elizabeth! Maybe you’ll never see this but it is July 1, 2022. I am old and I watch a lot of videos, mostly Christian “-ish“. The information that you are sharing in this video is immensely valuable as I’m sure you know. Grandma‘s and grandpa‘s, moms and dads as well as teachers need to jump on this ASAP. We seem to be losing Christian ground very quickly. I plan to order some information and pass it along to my son so his four-year-old daughter will have a shot at a reasonable life. (I hope Jesus comes and gets us very soon.)
Wow this was GOD-ordained for me. I’ve been struggling with my older girls with worldview stuff and politics and the whole bit. Definitely looking into her program, too!
Miss U, miss U! What a great elementary teacher! Now those skills are being used in a new ways for God’s kingdom! Bless you Elizabeth!
Steve King
PS. You’re still our kids’ favorite teacher😊
Wow Elizabeth you are called teacher for our children I thank God for your yes to the calling and I pray God to call more teachers who know Christ to every school🙏
Even though we taught this to our daughter practically from birth, had her in a good church every week, homeschooled, put her in youth programs, and read the Bible and prayed in our home, she still rejected the faith as soon as she was on her own. The pull of these ideas is very strong, especially to people who want to be subject only to their own authority.
Don’t give up. The seeds you planted may look dead, but God wants them to grow to be a new plant bearing much fruit.
I will be praying for your daughter. I went through this with my daughter for a couple of years. Just keep praying and fasting and speaking truth in love.
I was this girl, like your daughter, and I came back to Jesus because of what my parents taught me about faith as a child. I rebeled heavily until I realized how unhappy and evil this world actually is. God brought me back into his marvellous light. He’s sovereign. Pray without ceasing. This is what my mother did and I became a prodigal daughter and my faith is stronger than ever. He uses it all. Praying for you and your daughter. I have young children too and understand the heartbreak you must feel. But don’t lose hope and pray she comes home. God is so loving and faithful. I know from direct personal experience. 💓
Stages of life. Be patient. Hold firm. Pray she lives a long life to come back around. It often happens when raising their own children. Suddenly worldly things is repulsive once again. I remember the day I heard my daughter singing the lyrics to a song I enjoyed from my hey days and coming out of her sweet little mouth I was jarred into sobriety and said, nope. Time for a change lol❤️❤️❤️
@@kathleen711 What an amazing reply, and I thank you for sharing. Thank you Jesus! I have young children and im SO afraid of this, but i know they will grow and have free will. Its hard for me to accept that they may turn away, but I know its a possibility. It helps hearing others that have come back. I came back at 51 too. Hallelujah!
What a great segment. I do not even have kids and I found this fascinating. Many adults need this.
Wow this is so encouraging to know that people like Elizabeth exist and what she has done, what a blessing she is bringing to so many children. Thank you Elizabeth! And thank you Mike for introducing her and her teaching to us.
This is so good! The topic of subjective truth is something I talk about with my 9 year old ALL THE TIME! She tends to feel a lot of feelings so I have to remind her that just because she feels it doesn’t mean it’s true.
So these examples on how to get them to truly understand, are so great!
This is encouraging to me because it means that my church has been teaching me the right things. I am sixteen and I know that God and the Bible is the standard for right and wrong. I have trouble with sin though. I lied once when I was younger and then I lied again and again even when I don’t need to. It’s to the point where I know it’s wrong but it’s a desire that is stealing me away from God. I try to recite Bible verses that remind me that God hates lying but it’s never truly gone away. I don’t know what to do?
you hang in there. We q=will always struggle with the yoke of sin. What is most important is that your eyes is always on the Lord Jesus. You already have the right foundations as you spend your time in prayer and the Bible. You never give up. Keep going.
No human can or will ever be free of sin ❤️ just keep studying the bible and learn and grow as a person, but don't ever expect yourself to be able to never sin, it's not feasible. The only one ever who is free from sin is Jesus and we're not Jesus and we can't ever be. We are imperfect and all we can do is try to do better and better ourselves and ask for forgivness when we fail and we will be forgiven ❤️
The bible says to acknowledge God in all our ways. Jesus had given us victory over sin because of his death and Resurrection! And now we have the Holy Spirit living in us! So when you feel tempted to tell a lie, God says acknowledge Him before you go to speak. Say I am tempted to tell this lie (for whatever reason) but my Heavenly Father hates lying so I will acknowledge Him in this decision and choose not to lie. Even if it is difficult, we have victory over sin if we choose to walk in the Spirit. It doesn't mean we will never sin (we are human) but we strive to walk in the Spirit.
I just lied again
@@dirogue7132 you should probably bring science into this and go see someone
You’re probably a pathological liar
If you mean you’re lying to get out of trouble then maybe not
But that’s still objectively wrong, just don’t get in trouble in the first place
One time my class had an open discussion about morality in every day life and we started by discussing the definition of "morals". A dictionary was never consulted, it was about what we felt it meant. Even though some people gave conflicting definitions we were collectively told by our teacher we were all correct. The conversation from then on was basically us talking past each other for an hour while the teacher pretended there was deep introspection happening.
This is why it's hard to have conversations with non-believers about basic things like love and justice. How can we have a productive conversation about anything if we don't all agree on what it means?
As a Christian person I believe truth. I will not surrender truth to another person's point if view. However, I will not demand them to believe. Quoting someone GWC Maybe, "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still"
Yes!! People that dont have grown kids just dont get this!!
EVERYONE needs this training nowadays.
Every. Single. Human.
*WONDERFUL VIDEO!!! I think this video was the missing link of my contribution to teach and train my grandchildren the principles and values of the Truth and combat the darkness that is looming over these postmodernist generations.*
Thank you! This was fantastic. I work with children and will be getting this course to be better equipped to help them face the lies of our culture. I appreciate this so much.
Once a friend told me that in his reality, when he died, he was going to be white light speeding through the universe. So I told him, "What if in my reality, when I die, I go to heaven and I find myself speaking to you right there in heaven. Which would be the real you?"
He just looked at me 😂
@Richard Fox TBF neither of these people agree with how you see the world.
It's kind of funny. I am 29 years old, and I remember being taught how to "defend" myself against the first lie in school. Don't remember what grade, but it was early. We would read short paragraphs, then we would have to pick out the objective facts, and also the subjective opinions. Good stuff.
Yes. They taught us 'fact' / 'opinion' and how to recognize the two. Now that class would be one sentence long:
fact and opinion are synonyms. Next topic.
Thank you for this! Officially beginning our homeschool journey this coming year. We have already been seeking out solid resources that hold strictly to a Biblical worldview. We’ve been using catechism with our 3 & 5 year olds. I love that this starts in early childhood and I will definitely be adding this to our curriculum because it is so critical to build upon.
First: looooove this talk! Second: Psalty was weird but as a kid that grew up with it, the songs stayed with me my whole life. They actually helped with the renewing of my mind. For example: learn to be a servant of all. In the song it gives examples that kids can understand. I looked it back up in the past few years to get an idea of how biblically accurate it was. I was pleasantly surprised. A current cartoon that I'm liking for biblical substance for kids is Owlegories. Anyway, thank you for covering this topic because it's so important!
I didn't get to watch this live, but am watching the replay right now and WOW! This is great! Thank you so much for helping me know how to talk to my grandchildren about this stuff!! Great show!!
This is so good. Elizabeth's practical teacher skills, the exercises are great. Kids (and even adults) are visual, they won't forget those lessons. I'll be sharing this with my entire circle of parents and teacher friends.
So appreciate this. Will be watching repeatedly!
To those criticizing the fact they charge for the curriculum, things cost money. Consider the amount of time and expertise used to create it. We should support Biblical educational materials financially when we can.
As a youth pastor for 12+ years. I have heard these things so many times. I strive with all that I am to give them the truth of God’s Word vs. truth of their hearts
I have a 9 year old and a 5 year old and I was already daunted by the task of showing them by boys the truth as opposed to what the culture teaches. I Thank you for showing us a way to walk through all the different worldviews to find the real one.
God bless you both!
Wow. I didn't expect to see Elizabeth on my youtube home page! I went to college with her, and my sister-in-law is her best friend. What a great discussion; keep up the great work!
Elizabeth is very rapid and logical. Casually listening to her is not possible, focused attention is required. Meaning no criticism. She is correct that we make many assumptions about how our children think and what they believe and know. We often don't know our children and for that other adults.
While I do agree with Elizabeth and Mike, that doesn't mean we shouldn't critise. I have feeling you meant that you pay attention while they are speaking, and then give the criticism afterwards (If you have any, that is).
She’s very gifted.
@@thebirdaplierphd.memeology3411 I literally meant close attention is necessary for her quick delivery. She was spot on. We assume to know what our children are thinking and believing. All young people like to experiment and bounce ideas around. They don't have emotional maturity. The extremes of emotions, such as love and hate, must be tempered by wisdom, knowledge, and understanding. God and Jesus being the best source. In the process of seeking a better understanding of others it exposes our own inadequacies. That's been my experience and it's often unpleasant.
@@rickhale4348 yea
I havent watched all the video yet, but I call the "follow yout heart" the disney princess lie.
I got interested in understanding mysticism and gnosticism to understand the symbols. Not to practice, by any means. Its amazing how what you see from the hollywood perspective is a religion. Their symbols and beliefs are paganism as old as time. Most false religions tell the same lie as the serpent in the garden.
Anton Lavey who was a notorious Satanist even said: "In previous centuries, the Church was the great controller, dictating morality, stifling free expression and posing as conservator of all great art and music. Instead we have TV, doing just as good a job at dictating fashions, thoughts, attitudes, objectives as did the Church, using many of the same techniques but doing it so palatably that no one notices."
@@IzzyNChrist "The whole of thy will shall be the whole of the law" A.Levay
@@pluckngrit2 sad, it's exactly what were seeing today
@plucking...i qould like to watch lion king again and hear the teaching in that movie. Itz been too long forgotten now.
Also many good movies like Horse Whisperer and many (I'm sure many I'll never see) show adultery and itz okay bcs "feelings". Itz no wonder most unbelievers have little integrity. '"Believers" also. This is a grand undermining of Jesus/Biblical teachings. Actually making the person themselves their god.
@@IzzyNChrist - where do you see this? I must live in some weird intersection of people. I have never heard anyone talk like the strawman statements these "lies" are based off of. I'm guessing this is more coming from Christians who don't like pop-culture and struggle with liking it themselves. I'm sorry, maybe aside from the gender/sex issues, this doesn't really seem like the huge problem this passive aggressive fear mongering is regurgitating.
Thank you Elizabeth for all you are doing. I am 30 years old and I just realized that I've been believing a lie that everyone has their own truth. I'm blessed to have realized this in time to teach and live as an example for my children. Your work is so important for the future! And also Mike thank you you've helped me realize this truth that has changed and saved me.
What an awesome resource. Ive been praying to god to help me teach my child discernment in the face of our culture and this showed up in my recommended videos 🙏 thank you God
Really, really good! And not just for kids! The basic, fundamental guide to truly thinking through the lies can be appropriately applied to adults.
Thank you! Praying for you both.
Yes, even for adults!! Agreed!
@@Fern_Thaddeus Absolutely! But only because adults have come through the same system that the children are in right now 😁😁
"How could a loving God send people to hell? How could a just God let anyone into heaven?" - Mark Driscoll
Simple, cause and effect.
@@jacob9158 You missed the point. A loving god cannot send people to a eternal torturous place. A just god cannot send those who have sinned to a utopia.
@@Lily-wd7dz If you want to separate yourself from the source of all that is good then He will respect your decision.
@@jacob9158 If you define the God of the Old Testament as the pinnacle of good, then I must be dodging a pretty fatal bullet by separating myself from that psychotic narcissist.
Based on that, I should assume you have no issue with ordering your followers to invade a village and kill all the men and children, rape all the women, etc.? I mean, that's what you believe God ordered if you believe the Bible.
@@Lily-wd7dz compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness
This is awesome! I'm so excited! I brought so many lies about God to adulthood from my childhood. I'm excited to learn!
Thank you, Elizabeth! So many practical ways for teaching children and handling problems that arise from children believing these lies that are inadvertently taught in our society! I’m a mother and a teacher, so I appreciate these rebuttals and suggestions so much! Thank you, Mike, for having her on your show!
She has the kindness and expression of a teacher. You can tell she is a beautiful soul.
So great to see a fellow Biola Apologetics Grad on here! So great to see you again!!!
This is SO eye-opening!!! So much truth and wisdom here!!! Thank you VERY much for this wonderful interview!!! And thank you Elizabeth for creating these great resources ❤️
Thank You so much for this interview. This year my husband and I have decided to homeschool our three children and I can use all the guidance I can get!! I will be looking into her curriculum!! This year I’ll be teaching American History just in case your thinking about bringing another curriculum writer 😭😂😭
@Living Woman Ministries thank you sister 🤗 I would never dream of embarking this journey without Him 🙏🏼
Great timing! My husband and I are getting ready to have our first child in late August and this was so incredibly helpful. Thank you so much!
“He will feed his flock like a shepherd. He will carry the lambs in his arms, holding them close to his heart. He will gently lead the mother sheep with their young.”
Isaiah 40:11 NLT Thank you, Abba for all your goodness and promises.😭💞
Keep them away from public school if you can plz
As a public school teacher this was very interesting and insightful. As a Christian (I only came back to Christ 2 years ago) the LORD has been working through cultural and intellectual beliefs I adopted throughout the years.
Thank you so much for having this, Mike! I’m soon to be a parent and biblically leading her properly is by far my biggest concern.
This is great I love it! Thank you for having her!
She speaks so fast but so clear! 👍
Elizabeth looks like Alissa Childers 🤩
Yeah fr fr
Facts
Oohh! So, all white folk look alike now, is that what it's come to?😉
@@CoranceLChandler 🤣🤣🤣 read my comment again, carefully this time.
@@CoranceLChandler wait how did it come to color of skin motivated or based
Excellent! Will be watching this with my son, who will be graduating high school in South Africa and moving to the US for college. I want him to be ready!
the secret is reinterpret what the bible says!!!! you can do it!!!!! He will spot the lies if he reads the book before the lies about the book are told.
Mike and Elizabeth.,This Vital for young People today! Thank you .
I have A Brother Who forgot about God 40 years ago… ! He lives in the to the UK… Him and his wife are early 50’s
Their teenage Daughters are 14 and 12.. We are Forbidden to Mention Gods name to him or his daughters.. We already have a strained relationship, due to us trying to reach out to his wife and daughters….
There are 3 of us, who are concerned for his teenage daughters, Re - Morals and Beliefs.
Re- them , Going to Pubs, Drinks being Spiked, Early sexual Relationships…ETC… ! As my brother believes there’s nothing wrong with 16 yr old girls getting drunk… !
I’d love to send this, to my SIL, but never would. !
We pray for them.. regularly. 👏🏻🙏🏻
It’s Just so tough , realising ones Nieces, don’t have Jesus in their lives! 😢 Bless you. Jenny
Thank you 🙏🏻
What a great resource is being made available to Christian families! Mike, thanks for having her on! Bring her back sometime. She's great!
I will say, following my heart SINCERELY is what lead me to following Jesus. Not following my flesh, but following what I truly desire if I'm truly honest with myself. If I'm honest with myself, money, popularity and pleasure never fulfill me and actually have a tendency to hurt me. So if I'm honest with myself, if I TRULY follow my heart... It leads me to Christ and His ways because those ways are the true, lasting satisfaction of my soul. And in following Christ, I become more truly myself than I do trying to fit into the world.
Technically being honest with yourself is not the same as following your heart sincerely. There's a difference between your heart, and your mind/brain.
@@thebirdaplierphd.memeology3411 I'd say it's following my heart. I love him, he loves me. It's not cold knowledge. It's a relationship.
@@kevinraybennett I'd say it's both, because your relationship with God relies on everything you know about him, and what he's done for you
@@thebirdaplierphd.memeology3411 Sure! I use my brain to know that I should follow my heart sincerely, because Christ is my true joy. Not this world. If we want honest believers, they need to make honest choices. Or they'll fall away. We can't just adopt the religion of our parents like the Pharisees did. We need to make a true sincere choice based on what we desire more. God or this world? Which one will ACTUALLY make you happy?
I always love a live on Ps Mike’s channel! Thank you! 🙏🏽♥️
Thank you so much for this interview!! I’m a 57 yr old grandmother and had no idea that the current worldview was so subjective! My youngest granddaughters were arguing about if homosexuality was wrong or not and I overheard one say “you can’t help who you love! “The other one said “the Bible says it’s wrong” then the first one said “what if you don’t know the Bible and your heart loves a girl?”
I was floored! My granddaughters go to a Christian school!!
I grew up just knowing there’s right and wrong-no matter what you feel. I didn’t know that this culture was pushing this false idea, everyone has their own truth and their own reality. I thought it was just a liberal idea. I’m definitely going to have a talk with these kids and try to explain Gods truth vs man’s truth and feelings, to them. I’m going to check out the website too!
You CANNOT have JUSTICE without JUDGEMENT.
This is an excellent video! I talk to my kids all the time about these things. It is so very important. I would like to say, $175 for only a years access to this curriculum is very expensive. I buy curriculum every year for my kids and nothing is this expensive and I am able to keep the curriculum for years to come. Answers in Genesis had worldview curriculum for much better price, maybe not the detail but it won’t break the bank.
"13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)"
Romans 2:13-15 KJV
God's law is written on the heart.
We are not under law but under grace.
We have become dead to the law but alive unto Christ Jesus.
The law was not made for the righteous but for the unrighteous.
The Sabbath has its roots in the garden. “God blessed it and sanctified it” - but he does not command it until later as a part of the relationship and covenant that he has with the children of Israel through the Mosaic Law.
I believe this institution is important to God because it is an earthly representation of the relationship that the church will have with Jesus; he is our sabbath; he is our rest from the works of the law.
The verses in Exodus that command the Sabbath are to the Israelites and not to the whole world. God did not deliver the gentiles from Egypt. He did not bring them to Mount Sinai. He did not establish a covenant with the gentiles.
It does include foreigners living in their cities. This is to prevent the Israelites from getting their work done on an extra day through foreigners and slaves - but more importantly that these foreigners and slaves should also rest. To reiterate: this is not a command for the whole world. It is included with the mosaic covenant with the children of Israel.
There exists only two commandments for the bride of Christ. But first, let’s make a distinction between the church and the children of Israel.
The Abrahamic promise is different from the mosaic covenant that was made with the children of Israel. Abraham’s promise is that of a son - specifically Isaac, and that all the people’s of the world would be blessed through Abraham - This is the Messianic promise.
The prophet Jeremiah records that the covenants will change:
Jeremiah 31: 31-33
31
“The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
“when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
32
It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to[a] them,[b]”
declares the Lord.
33
“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the Lord.
“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God, and they will be my people.”
Verse 31 is clear that a new covenant is coming and that it replaces the old covenant
Verse 32 contrasts it with the Old Covenant. “it will not be like...” the one made with the children of Israel via Moses.
Verse 33 explains the difference. This new law will be in their hearts and minds; it is not a to-do list of laws which carry the penalty of death. Circumcision of the penis was a sign of the old covenant. The new covenant requires being born again by the Holy Spirit. This is referred to as a circumcision of the heart. Romans 2:29, Colossians 2:11. Mentioned in the Old Testament but only temporarily possible through repentance on an ongoing basis. It was not until the Old Covenant was closed and Christ sent the Holy Spirit to make this spirit circumcision permanent through the His indwelling in the believer.
Gentile believers were never under mosaic law and because of the new covenant we are taught with complete clarity that we are not under the law (Romans 6:4) - which always brings death. We are under grace.
shall we sin because we are not under the law? God forbid!
We have two the commandments from Jesus and these are not burdensome.
John 13: 34
“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another”
This is the clearest understanding of the New Covenant which replaced the Old Covenant. It is a covenant that is to be in our hearts, because He dwells in our hearts.
2 John V5-6
5 And now, dear lady, I am not writing you a new command but one we have had from the beginning. I ask that we love one another. 6 And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love.
To love Jesus is to obey him. To obey him is to love each other.
I John 3: 23
23 And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.
We are His church. We are not under the Mosaic law - but under grace. This is clear in Jeremiah’s prophecy because he uses the phrase “Not like the covenant I made...”
It is vastly different. It is for this very reason that we have two separate portions of the Bible: the Old Testament which documents the history, Abrahamic promise, the mosaic covenant, the mosaic laws, and the prophets. In contrast to the New Testament which documents the fulfillment of messianic prophecies, the teachings of Jesus, history of the early church, our clear and only commandment of Love, and further prophecies regarding end times.
Because we are the church we have no right to teach, force, or require any believer to obey Mosaic law. This includes circumcision, which Paul clearly opposed as part of the New Covenant, and it includes the sabbath.
We are to encourage New Covenant law - that of love - which is superior in all ways to the Mosaic law.
I firmly believe in the importance of the sabbath in the OT - but only because It demonstrates God’s attitude towards us and our rest that we have in Christ. I am convinced that the sabbath has been replaced; it has not been replaced by Sunday or any other day of the week, but by Christ himself.
Many have made “keeping the sabbath” a condition of salvation by believing that if someone does not keep the sabbath then they are part of the Whore of Babylon and will suffer punishment. That is a form of legalism. Additionally, sabbath keeping is a subtle form of pride: “I keep the sabbath, God is pleased with me [but not with you.]”
God is pleased with us only because Christ is in us and for no other reason. We were created for good works which is evidence of our genuine faith - and those works are expressed through love for one another, our neighbors, and our enemies.
The true believer does not “go” to church. He (or she) is the church. They pray without ceasing. They sing to each other in Psalms, Hymns, and spiritual songs. They love their brothers and sisters, their neighbors, and their enemies. They make amends for their sins, they seek Christ in all things, and rest in him continuously; they do these things every day of the week.
So then, does this mean that we are exempt from keeping the 10 commandments? YES, but only because we keep them from the heart: Matthew 22:37
1) Love God with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength - and we love our neighbor as we love ourselves.
2) Do not falsely imagine God to be anything but who he actually is.
3) We bear the name of Christ. Do not take his name in vain. Do not live like you are married to Christ, but fornicating with the world.
4) Christ is our rest from works of the law.
5) We must honor all lawful authority.
6) We must love our enemies and give them food and clothes.
7) We must not lust after another, which is adultery.
8) We must work to supply our owns needs and those of others.
9) We must speak the truth in love, because Christ is the truth.
10) We must be content with what we have because he has said, “I will never leave you, nor forsake you.” We are coheirs with Christ.
The true church keeps the sabbath every day because we are in church every day..
The Saturday sabbath is not for the bride of Christ.
Christ is the Lord of the sabbath. He is the Lord of our rest.
i thank you both for teaching me the very clear difference between what subjective and objective means. as someone so interested in languages, i still didn't have such a clear grasp of the contrast. but Elizabeth, you both made it so clear!! And Mike, i think you facilitated the right dialogue to help navigate your guest to nail that for us, your audience. You make a great team in this video! Thanks a bunch!
What an eye opener this interview was! I consider myself really grounded on my faith and still I bought some of this lies!
I bought the curriculum and I cannot wait to start educating myself, my son and all kids around me!
May God bless both ministries of Elizabeth Urbanowics and Mike Winger.
Wow did this come at a good time for me! People from our old Mormon ward knocked on our door 5 minutes ago to collect tithing (🤷🏻♀️) and my 6 year old suddenly realized we used to go to their church. She asked why we don’t go to that church anymore which sparked a great opportunity for me to use some tips from this interview in explaining what truth is and why it matters. 🙌
I did the truth test on my 12 year old and the answer might be dependent on how it is phrased. WHen I asked is the truth true for everyone he responded "Not always", when I clarified and said, "I'm not saying that a CLAIM of truth is true for everyone but if you knew the truth then that truth is true for everyone" then he resonded "Yes". So things might be as dark as it at first appears.
It’s not only kids; adult believers have bought into the narrative of “follow your heart,” love affirming “feelings,” etc. All Christians need to be awakened to these & many other “lies.”
As a new Christian I need this as well as my daughters. I wish my partner would listen to these too as he could really learn in ways I struggle to explain.
8.) "God wants me (you) to be happy."
Wow, this is great. I am writing a curriculum right now for our church to train parents to teach their children many of these things and have family time. Would love to brain storm, sounds like she has great ideas.
The first lie about feeling is why 70% of all divorces are filed by women.
Wow, thank you so much for exposing these lies and providing content to help equip our children to think Biblically. My oldest daughter is almost 5 and I feel like she would be so receptive to this curriculum. I’m so appreciative of you both and pray blessings over your ministries and outreach!
Thank you, Pastor Mike. I have been looking for materials and books to teach my granddaughters, ages 4 and 9, the absolute Truth of God's Word. They are facing such challenges at school and in the world today. After listening to your podcast today I feel that there are resources to empower me to teach them about Jesus Christ and the Bible. God bless you and your ministry!
Totally getting this for my church
To the first point made about feelings equate truth, I have experience dealing with this from a LDS member that I work with. His foundation is his feelings and this causes him to read his theology into the scriptures instead of pulling his theology from the scripture. It actually makes it nearly impossible to bring truth because he by default will take a verse out of context to support himself and his favorite response is, everyone interprets differently and maybe everyone is partially correct... my response is, nope... I categorically disagree with that statement.
You could point out that he doesn't interpret non-scriptural documents in this way. If your boss sends him an email with a list of tasks to complete, his interpretation of that list better be pretty close to your boss's intention in writing it! If something is unclear and your LDS friend discusses it with the rest of the coworkers, you can most often come to a pretty close agreement of the true meaning.
Critical thinking is learned. I learned by studying the Greek NT. When my 1st Bible as an adult being an Amplified Classic showed me. Oh, a word had a much fuller, more definitive answer. In reading like C.S. Lewis, Francis Schaffer, Owen, Nee. A few books with Bible in hand and HS in me I study still. And have learned and adjusted beliefs. Sometimes it is hard bcs you have a deeply ingrained belief but the Bible says otherwise. Then the cognitive dissonance can be strong. The Bible means what it says, sooo. Adjust n pray the HS brings one into ALL truth. 🕊💙
@@nicolepettit5120 ... GREAT POINT
@@nicolepettit5120 this is an extremely good point! When I think about his claim on interpretation, it makes me ask, well is there reason to believe that there is a correct way to interpret something? If the answer is yes then that implies that there ought to be a wrong way as well. If the answer is no, there is not a correct way to interpret, then how can I trust what you are saying is what you are meaning to say... we would have no confidence in having any understanding from written or spoken communication. Thanks Nicole for your insightful comment!
@@mishaanton5436 Misha, great point! We tend to be prideful people... we as in most people. When we hold something as true, especially if it is for any significant amount of time, it becomes harder and harder to adjust that belief when a better argument arises or new understanding conflicts with the standing belief. I think society is stuck in a positive feedback loop and feeds on their confirmation bias, I know I struggle with it and it is very hard to set the pride aside for truth.
This was excellent! I just forwarded it to 5 young mom's I know. Will keep forwarding it as I think of more families!
Thank you for this collaboration. Elizabeth I am so delighted to see your passion to help equip our children to think critically as they learn to navigate the world through the lens of Scripture. I've purchased your curriculum and I'm so excited to get this started with my kids in the fall. God bless you and your ministry. Thank you Pastor Mike for sharing your platform with Elizabeth.
One of the cruelest jokes played on our society was that we were told it is impolite to discuss politics and religion. Those two things are so important, yet my parents told me not to talk about them. I think that is why the USA is so polarized today.
Amazing presentation. Thank you for following the Lord's call on your heart and not listening to your own call. Bravo Elizabeth. Thank you Mike for giving her a stage. Encore or I can just restart the video.
So encouraged by this discussion and loving all the tips and advice for imparting these truths to our kids. I'll be getting the Foundation Worldview curriculum to use with my daughters. Thank you to you both for helping to equip us.
I remember watching Sesame Street when my nephew was little and they sang a song that said"follow your heart." And my nephew said, " We're not supposed to do that. We're supposed to follow Jesus.". He was only like 4 but he got it.
Thanks for your videos!
My family and I now, once again, go to a solid through the Bible church just outside of Portland, Oregon(of all places). During Covid our former church fell apart.
One of my boys goes to public school (He’s a freshman) and one is in a private Christian school (He’s a junior). I try to reinforce what you all are talking about here all of the time with them. For me it is an ongoing, uphill battle. There is a major spiritual battle in this world for the hearts, minds, and souls of everyone. Jesus Christ is the only hope - the way, the truth, and the life!