Martin Scorsese reacts to the work of John Ford, including Stagecoach, The Quiet Man and The Searchers. Sources: PBS, AFI, IFTA www.pbs.org/ www.afi.com/ www.ifta.ie/
John Ford is one of the greatest directors of all time, and I appreciate how much Scorsese has highlighted his work over the years. Both legends of cinema now.
Wayne had huge screen pressence and was naturalistic. I'll never understand the criticisms about his acting. Go watch him in The Searchers and True Grit, and tell me that man couldn't do drama, he was fantastic.
Well, they would criticize him for only playing one guy his whole life, but they wouldn't deny him that in some of the greatest films ever he was playing the hell of that guy.
@@nedludd7622 How do you equate naturalistic as "wooden"? A very long series of characters that are the same can get tiresome. But his performance in "The Searchers" is magnificent, and there are a number of others, as well.
The greatest director ever. The most influential director ever. I don’t think people realize how this guy is in the dna of every director since. Howard Hawks (close contemporary at the time and massive influence on Tarantino, Spike and carpenter) said he was the only director that was superior to him. He influenced Welles, Kurosawa, Fellini, Godard, Leone, Scorsese, Spielberg, Eastwood and countless others. Without those names. Who knows.
How Green Was My Valley. The finest piece of cinema ever created, in my opinion. Irascible, nasty, petty, he may have been all of these things but to me he is simply the Da Vinci of motion pictures.
@@CMC050 It was a better movie and had the scope and scale of a Hollywood movie especially with that sound track combined with the amazing cinematography.
The point mr scorcese makes at 6:22 is what made me fall in love with westerns. I was never able to describe it so precisely. The environment and the story are connected in such a way that is hard to see on other genres
I'm not the biggest John Ford fan, but I do love Quiet Man, The Searchers and The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. Have to say, though, that my favorite western (before those of the spaghetti persuasion) is probably Rio Bravo (directed by Howard Hawks) or maybe High Noon (the story behind the making of that is fascinating).
Ford made some racially tone deaf films, Scorsese mentions one of them in "the searchers".for a guy like QT who in pulp fiction utters the phrase "Dead n word storage" to write him off for that reason though seems odd@@TheTrueMasterOfTheFist
@@alexchernandez88 I don’t see how having a racist character in the searchers is “racially tone deaf” especially considering the context and ending of the movie. I can learn more about myself from Ethan Edwards than any of these water downed modern characters in movies.
check out the actor Stepin Fetchit character of Jeff Poindexter in Judge Priest about the confederate veteran turned judge, and tell me thats not one of the more racially stereotypical portrayal's of an African American too. Ford also wore a clan outfit as an extra in birth of a nation. I have 3 other examples I could give you if you care to take me up on this. I like ford but he was not without his faults. I happen to think grapes of wrath is one of the greatest adaptations in film history. @@TheTrueMasterOfTheFist
There is also a scene in that film where a car coming down a hill is plainly visible in the background, ha, ha, ha! But a truly great film and certainly one of the greatest of all time.
What I don't like about Ford are those scenes that are shot in an exterior and suddenly become a reconstruction of that same exterior in a sound stage.
A lot of those are night or twilight scenes, back then night scenes didn't register on the film stock of the time or had to be so brightly lit that they looked unnatural. So they had to be done on sound stages. Or, in The Quiet Man, for ex., they only had so much time to film in Ireland and the weather was bad, so some things had to be recreated in the studio.
I saw The Searchers for the first time the other day, and while the story held my attention and John Wayne was an interesting anti-hero who partially redeems himself at the end, other, more old-fashioned aspects of the film are difficult to take: a lot of the acting is melodramatic, including Wayne’s at times (that moment with the knife) but most especially the young protagonist is terribly overdone and a bit wooden. Also seeing white people donning make-up to play Native Americans is jarring, even if you expect it. A remake by Denis Villeneuve or someone capable would be a great watch, as there is so much in the story. It’s funny to me how these violent, desperate tales which occur basically during genocidal European landgrabs are transformed into epics. A modern-day take on that story would be so different.
The story that inspired it was actually a freed slave spent years getting his family back that had been taken by the Comanches, he eventually got them back but was later killed himself by the comanches
A modern day take of the Searchers would use the source book of the actual true story. Empire of the Summer Moon. I doubt Hollywood would make a movie that shows the Comanches at their absolute worst.
@@ClarkKent71 Any film depicting the absolutely brutal inter-tribal warfare on the Great Plains (and elsewhere) could not likely be made in our PC and woke culture today. Everything European must be portrayed as evil and anything about the tribes must be positive. I wish this society would grow up and and find the balance that is the truth. There is great evil in _every_ historical and current society, and things that are good, too.
@@ClarkKent71 I have seen the previews and it looks good! I hope he doesn't hold back and just puts every side on display so people can see what really happened.
All I can say about Wayne is that his acting ability is easy to take for granted. Like Vincent Price or Robert Mitchum, He could play silent types but he also was difficult to upstage in terms of vocabulary, line reading, and delivery. Richard Boone was a rare actor who could really square it off with Wayne in one on one sequences. He could be a bit broad, but that's how people commanded back then. He also rerepresented a certain type of American persona. Right or Wrong. Remember, Scorsese was of a generation that knew people from WWI and before. In some cases, these were family members. He probably knew some people with that attitude and swagger.
John Wayne, like many actors of the time had a presence. Getting a good movie out of them was about using that presence effectively more so than bringing out a depth or range in their the acting that possibly they didn't possess. That take on Leo however is just wrong.
John Ford is one of the greatest directors of all time, and I appreciate how much Scorsese has highlighted his work over the years. Both legends of cinema now.
He and Akira Kurosawa created the “modern film”.
@@Njbear7453he influenced even kurosawa
@@Njbear7453 They did not
THEE greatest director ever…
@@Njbear7453Leone and Kubrick did
Stagecoach to this day is one of the best films out there. Time has diminished none of it's power or intensity.
Love John Carradine in it
John Ford and Akira Kurosawa the 2 most influential directors of the mid 1900’s. The samurai epic became the western.
Don't forget Orson Welles and Hitchcock, equally as influential.
@@deckofcards87 kubrick
Wayne had huge screen pressence and was naturalistic. I'll never understand the criticisms about his acting. Go watch him in The Searchers and True Grit, and tell me that man couldn't do drama, he was fantastic.
Well, they would criticize him for only playing one guy his whole life, but they wouldn't deny him that in some of the greatest films ever he was playing the hell of that guy.
He was naturalistic as in "wooden".
The Duke’s great in Red River and The Shootist, too, and so many others.
@@nedludd7622 How do you equate naturalistic as "wooden"? A very long series of characters that are the same can get tiresome. But his performance in "The Searchers" is magnificent, and there are a number of others, as well.
@@nedludd7622 nonesense,and,he's a better actor than you!
"Everybody would be happier if they watched Westerns."
The greatest director ever. The most influential director ever. I don’t think people realize how this guy is in the dna of every director since. Howard Hawks (close contemporary at the time and massive influence on Tarantino, Spike and carpenter) said he was the only director that was superior to him. He influenced Welles, Kurosawa, Fellini, Godard, Leone, Scorsese, Spielberg, Eastwood and countless others. Without those names. Who knows.
How Green Was My Valley. The finest piece of cinema ever created, in my opinion. Irascible, nasty, petty, he may have been all of these things but to me he is simply the Da Vinci of motion pictures.
Howard hawkes is a great director that (imo) doesn’t get enough credit
@@Njbear7453 agree 1000%
I agree.
Could we get an IMAX release of The Searchers?
🤯
A VistaVision release on film would be amazing.
@@Art-is-craft Dances with Wolves would be another movie that would look amazing in IMAX
@@jasonking3182 most overrated movie ever. How TF it beat Goodfellas for all those awards I’ll never know.
@@CMC050
It was a better movie and had the scope and scale of a Hollywood movie especially with that sound track combined with the amazing cinematography.
The point mr scorcese makes at 6:22 is what made me fall in love with westerns. I was never able to describe it so precisely. The environment and the story are connected in such a way that is hard to see on other genres
I'm not the biggest John Ford fan, but I do love Quiet Man, The Searchers and The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. Have to say, though, that my favorite western (before those of the spaghetti persuasion) is probably Rio Bravo (directed by Howard Hawks) or maybe High Noon (the story behind the making of that is fascinating).
In heaven, Scorsese does a podcast with Tarantino.
They don’t get along like that
Yeah Tarantino doesn’t like Ford for some reason, which just baffles me considering he likes Pauline Kael, I can’t stand her but I love me some Ford.
Ford made some racially tone deaf films, Scorsese mentions one of them in "the searchers".for a guy like QT who in pulp fiction utters the phrase "Dead n word storage" to write him off for that reason though seems odd@@TheTrueMasterOfTheFist
@@alexchernandez88 I don’t see how having a racist character in the searchers is “racially tone deaf” especially considering the context and ending of the movie. I can learn more about myself from Ethan Edwards than any of these water downed modern characters in movies.
check out the actor Stepin Fetchit character of Jeff Poindexter in Judge Priest about the confederate veteran turned judge, and tell me thats not one of the more racially stereotypical portrayal's of an African American too. Ford also wore a clan outfit as an extra in birth of a nation. I have 3 other examples I could give you if you care to take me up on this. I like ford but he was not without his faults. I happen to think grapes of wrath is one of the greatest adaptations in film history. @@TheTrueMasterOfTheFist
4:45 Dead Indian doesn’t seem that dead
There is also a scene in that film where a car coming down a hill is plainly visible in the background, ha, ha, ha! But a truly great film and certainly one of the greatest of all time.
He is now! 🙄😆
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@@nope5657 He says absolutely nothing of value in this.
@@jackywackysmacky4031 if you say so
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What I don't like about Ford are those scenes that are shot in an exterior and suddenly become a reconstruction of that same exterior in a sound stage.
A lot of those are night or twilight scenes, back then night scenes didn't register on the film stock of the time or had to be so brightly lit that they looked unnatural. So they had to be done on sound stages. Or, in The Quiet Man, for ex., they only had so much time to film in Ireland and the weather was bad, so some things had to be recreated in the studio.
I saw The Searchers for the first time the other day, and while the story held my attention and John Wayne was an interesting anti-hero who partially redeems himself at the end, other, more old-fashioned aspects of the film are difficult to take: a lot of the acting is melodramatic, including Wayne’s at times (that moment with the knife) but most especially the young protagonist is terribly overdone and a bit wooden. Also seeing white people donning make-up to play Native Americans is jarring, even if you expect it. A remake by Denis Villeneuve or someone capable would be a great watch, as there is so much in the story. It’s funny to me how these violent, desperate tales which occur basically during genocidal European landgrabs are transformed into epics. A modern-day take on that story would be so different.
The story that inspired it was actually a freed slave spent years getting his family back that had been taken by the Comanches, he eventually got them back but was later killed himself by the comanches
A modern day take of the Searchers would use the source book of the actual true story. Empire of the Summer Moon. I doubt Hollywood would make a movie that shows the Comanches at their absolute worst.
@@ClarkKent71 Any film depicting the absolutely brutal inter-tribal warfare on the Great Plains (and elsewhere) could not likely be made in our PC and woke culture today. Everything European must be portrayed as evil and anything about the tribes must be positive. I wish this society would grow up and and find the balance that is the truth. There is great evil in _every_ historical and current society, and things that are good, too.
@@ToddSauve Kevin Costners movie Horizon coming out mid year looks like it might show both the dark and light side of the tribes at the time.
@@ClarkKent71 I have seen the previews and it looks good! I hope he doesn't hold back and just puts every side on display so people can see what really happened.
knowing he likes terrible actor john wayne so much, makes his affinity for dicaprio make perfect sense now.
Donkey brained take. Perhaps your handler will reward you with a nice carrot?
All I can say about Wayne is that his acting ability is easy to take for granted. Like Vincent Price or Robert Mitchum, He could play silent types but he also was difficult to upstage in terms of vocabulary, line reading, and delivery. Richard Boone was a rare actor who could really square it off with Wayne in one on one sequences. He could be a bit broad, but that's how people commanded back then. He also rerepresented a certain type of American persona. Right or Wrong. Remember, Scorsese was of a generation that knew people from WWI and before. In some cases, these were family members. He probably knew some people with that attitude and swagger.
Thanks for the hot take.
To paraphrase Ari Gold: "They're not actors, they're movie stars"
John Wayne, like many actors of the time had a presence. Getting a good movie out of them was about using that presence effectively more so than bringing out a depth or range in their the acting that possibly they didn't possess. That take on Leo however is just wrong.