This is truly the best review I've seen so far on the C.O.P. Carried one on and off duty during my law enforcement service. Yes, a very long and hard trigger pull and heavy weight may be disadvantages, however this is made to be VERY up close and personal. Like pulling it out of your jacket or ankle holster when an assailant is on top of you. Trigger pull and accuracy matters little in some circumstances. Extremely reliable.
At very close range... no slide to be pushed out of battery, no cylinder to be grasped and kept from rotating, no gap behind trigger to have finger shoved into , no way bullet unseating can block block cylinder rotation. Difficult to wrest away from grasp. Can be fired in contact with attacker.
Robert Canon, Forgive my rebuttal on the COP but it was meant is all jocularity. That is why I made it a general observation. You have to admit it that it is a good description of the C.O.P. Do you still have yours? I still have mine and wouldn't sell them for a pot of gold. Well maybe one. LOL! Capt. Tamre' Colby
I have one, purchased new a long time ago. All Stainless Steel and at the time proved very difficult to manufacture and commanded a high price which may have been part of the failure. I still carry mine as a backup when needed (actually still have a factory shoulder holster). Accuracy? Why worry at 5 yards or less which is pretty much the working range a .357 will get results. I have shot several hundred rounds through mine over the years just to keep the feel and pratice. Not an easy weapon to master but the design of the heavy trigger had a purpose: that being this pistol won't shoot without a concentrated effort on the part of the shooter which is the main reason for conceled carry. Very smooth exterior nothing to snag, hang, dray or result in an accidential discharge. The pistol has a rotating hammer which strike 4 firing pin "balls" in succession, the pistol was extremely well built and fitted. If anyone likes I would be happy to copy and email the owner's manual pages as needed.
Pretty cool gun! I had one in the 80's and you're right about the very stiff trigger. I shot 38 +P in mine and it was a great up close and personal gun. Accuracy was not bad up to about 20 feet or so. It beats throwing rocks in a bad situation. Thanks for the video.
I had one of these in the 80s, and from the ads in Shotgun News it looked a lot smaller than it actually was. It was well built, and reliable, but it was too heavy for what it was. Shooting it was not fun; the only other pistol that was as unpleasant to shoot as this one was one of the Cobray .45/.410 derringers. My job at the time required one duty revolver to be worn (with two speedloader clips on the belt; mine were made by Super Vel) and a backup pistol to be worn on an ankle or shoulder rig. I thought that this pistol would be my ankle backup, but I noticed after a couple of weeks that I was walking with a gait due to the weight of this thing. I ended up switching to a Raven .25 as a backup piece. It was lighter, easier to shoot and held more rounds than the COP.
American Derringer also produced them in the early 90's and they where also available in .22 rimfire magnum as well, which is a lot more convincing for a compact pepperbox but running 158 grain jacketed semi-wadcutters (yes, I'm that old :P ) out of the .357 would be pretty effective. Accuracy is poor but it's really meant as an up close and personal, last ditch weapon, not a range gun. :)
7:25. I agree with your preferences. I also collect a lot of unconventional stuff. I would love to own one of these COP derringers one day too. Not for anything serious like concealed carry (though it could function in that role if it had to), but for use as a unique collectible conversation piece that could be a conversation starter at the local range.
In Blade Runner, the Replicant named "Leon" shoots a detective who is questioning him. They modified the gun to fire TWO barrels simultaneously so that there was a bigger flash when it was fired.
Actually mine shot very well, with .38 ammo - forget the .357 mag stuff! Absolutely reliable, it was pretty accurate at 10 feet or less. What more could you ask a tiny little handgun to do? But in truth my Colt Cobra was about the same size and a bit easier to handle. That plus one more round made it a better choice I guess. Still wish I had both, which I sold long ago.
I actually/personally watched Pete and Charley Seecamp sandblasting these frames at Waldron Co Inc in North Haven, Ct. around 1976 to 1978 when I worked there.
The pepperboxes of the 1800's were known for accidentally firing all rounds at the same time when the flame propagated. One of Mark Twain's stories explains what this looked like when that happened.
I love this gun! I believe it was released in 1974. I uncle bought one when they first came out so that’s what he told me. They are pretty hard to find nowadays. I think I paid like 1200 for mine complete with the case and manual
This was also seen in the hands of Vinnie Jones (or "Billy Wings") in the movie "Hell Ride" I would happily accept a C.O.P. as a gift, but I doubt you'll ever catch me buying one. Great review though!!! Thanks a TON! my curiosity is a bit more satisfied today, thanks to you :)
Cop went out of production in the early 80's, one of their jobbers sold them out in 83, @ $99.00 to dealers. I bought as many as I could, and sold them out in 2 weeks @$135.00. The original retail price was IIRC $250.00. They have been seen in the new Battlestar Gallactica show.
I bought one a few years back at a Florida pawnshop for $500 pretty mint with box and all. Shoots pretty well-more accurate then one might think (though kicks like a mule with .357) though trigger pull takes some getting used too. Best shot point style tightening grip while bringing online to target. Tends to print with each barrel in its corner and at 25 yards is real tough to keep all shots on target but manageable with practice (painful though). Wear gloves!
nice history on it! I have one, no manual, box or anything though. I actually really love shooting it and sometimes c-carry depending on what I'm wearing.
Just an extra bit of geek info...also in an episode of Stargate SG-1 season 10 epi 16 'Bad guys'. I had to actually look to see if such a gun existed and that search brought me to several youtube videos such as this one. Really neat gun. Cheers.
About the cop 357 derringer my dad use to own one the reason why the trigger was so hard because that was a safety feature that must people didn't know you have to pull the trigger fast for it to shoot.
Derrick Suttles "you have to pull the trigger fast for it to shoot." EVERY GUN NEEDS TO PULL THAT TRIGGER FAST GENIUS! Since when you pull trigger of a gun slowly? you'll be dead before you even pull the trigger, not big surprise
Just after they ceased production, distributors were dumping them for $95-$99 ea. I bought all I could, and they all sold within a week. Original Retail was $250.00
It kicks like you caught a baseball bat at full swing. OUTCH! Bought mine when they first went into production. Used it with Tompson contender shot shells for snakes when canoing in texas. Sold mine when the chambers started to swell.
I am planning on picking one of these up as I too collect unusual firearms, there is little to no information on disassembling or cleaning this weapon available. could you put up a vid of disassembly and the firing mechanism
@excertion1234 If you're used to handling guns and discussing them with other shooters it is customary AND safe practice to show the gun empty and SAFE. It carries through even in videos .... it's considerate. Now you know.
hey,ur vid was heplful,i did not know it fired counter clockwise,have u found out how many were made,just wound like to know,my serial# is in the low 5000,but cant find anything about how many were made,i wish i could have found the one i have for 300.00 at a gun show,an all u need for ur kit is the leather holster they made for it,well if u have anything u can tell me please do,THANKS
It was a bit too large for a hideout gun, heavy as well, it retailed for $250.00. After the Company closed, the remaining pistols sold wholesale for $99.00, selling retail for whatever one could get.
i know its designed by the same man who designed the whitney wolverine which will be my next semi auto purchase. the wolverine was his favorite design.
tip and dump on shell eject. berrel 3.5 or so i think and can fire 38 spcl rounds as well. will be buried with my cop. tgey are going anywhere from 600 - 1100 even though book value is about 200-350. last time i checked that is
mike allen By today's standards, yes. Looking back at when this was made, .357/.38spl revolvers were still standard for law enforcement (with many departments not even ALLOWING semis), so it would make more sense to have a (relatively) compact BUG use the same cartridge as your duty revolver.
Ah there is a handgun with two barrells that is sold in the US that fires both barrels at the same time. The atf lets this gun be sold without a special permit. It's by Aresnal Firearms and it fires .45 ACP, .38 Super Auto. It's the AF2011-A1 DOUBLE BARREL PISTOL The magazine is 16 bullets. Eight bullets each chamber and both chambers fire at the same time.
NukleOn is correct, the action is basically a rotating hammer enclosed in the back of this pistol. Said hammer strikes basically a "firing ball" (it looks more like a ball than a proper firing pin). The hammer hits each one then index's onto the next chamber. I had mine fire a pair of barrels ONCE! A small sliver of Stainless Steel caused one of those balls too press against the back of a round. The force of shooting/recoil caused a second discharge. I have never heard of this happenning to anyone else but with only a couple thousand manufactured there is not much feedback. That is the only problem I have ever had and a good cleaning after disassembly corrected the problem. FYI a pair of full house .357 mags going off together will really get your attention:)
It would've been awesome if it shot all four at once. If a home intruder ever invades my house while I'm wearing a light red shirt and light brown pants, I'd love to have it on hand. SHORTSTOP!
Great gun....I've had mine for over 30 years....shoots good and smooth...If you know how to hold it right...Index finger along side the barrel and the middle finger on the trigger...Point and shoot
I bought one of these brand new when they came out, what a P.O.S. It must have a 20 lb trigger pull plus the pull is so long it takes forever to squeeze the trigger. The barrel is so short you can't hit anything over ten feet away. Because the barrels are all pointing from a different direction you can't put two shots in the same place. With .357 mag loads it is hard to hold on to because of the crappy hand, grip. I fired 4 rounds and got rid if it. Worst gun I even owned.
My father knew the group of machinists in Torrance where we lived at the time that made these. I had one of the first ones they produced. The firing pin constantly broke and or malfunctioned. Trigger was ridiculous. Besides being a cool looking gun, it weighed a ton and was a piece of junk. Collectors bugged me for years to buy from me. I finally sold to a big dealer in the LA area. I would have never trusted this gun for personal protection. The production run of these was very small making them very collectible today.
Great novelty gun, but horrible for anything other than display. I also have a "Downsizer" derringer (that must be super rare as I've never seen one anywhere) which is also good only for display. If nothing else, maybe the rarity of these guns make them good investments, but otherwise they're pure craptasticness.
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This is truly the best review I've seen so far on the C.O.P. Carried one on and off duty during my law enforcement service. Yes, a very long and hard trigger pull and heavy weight may be disadvantages, however this is made to be VERY up close and personal. Like pulling it out of your jacket or ankle holster when an assailant is on top of you. Trigger pull and accuracy matters little in some circumstances. Extremely reliable.
That is really cool to hear man
I am a huge fan of this derringer.
At very close range... no slide to be pushed out of battery, no cylinder to be grasped and kept from rotating, no gap behind trigger to have finger shoved into , no way bullet unseating can block block cylinder rotation. Difficult to wrest away from grasp. Can be fired in contact with attacker.
Robert Canon,
Forgive my rebuttal on the COP but it was meant is all jocularity. That is why I made it a general observation. You have to admit it that it is a good description of the C.O.P.
Do you still have yours? I still have mine and wouldn't sell them for a pot of gold. Well maybe one.
LOL!
Capt. Tamre' Colby
Other Users: That’s a really cool gun
Gamers: *OMG IT’S THE SHORTSTOP FROM TF2*
I have one, purchased new a long time ago. All Stainless Steel and at the time proved very difficult to manufacture and commanded a high price which may have been part of the failure. I still carry mine as a backup when needed (actually still have a factory shoulder holster). Accuracy? Why worry at 5 yards or less which is pretty much the working range a .357 will get results. I have shot several hundred rounds through mine over the years just to keep the feel and pratice. Not an easy weapon to master but the design of the heavy trigger had a purpose: that being this pistol won't shoot without a concentrated effort on the part of the shooter which is the main reason for conceled carry. Very smooth exterior nothing to snag, hang, dray or result in an accidential discharge.
The pistol has a rotating hammer which strike 4 firing pin "balls" in succession, the pistol was extremely well built and fitted.
If anyone likes I would be happy to copy and email the owner's manual pages as needed.
Would LOVE to go out shooting with you.... I don't have a gun anymore.... The ex took custody of my .357 Rossi revolver.... Loved that gun!!
Something like this scaled down to 380 or 32acp with an improved trigger would be awesome.
Pretty cool gun! I had one in the 80's and you're right about the very stiff trigger. I shot 38 +P in mine and it was a great up close and personal gun. Accuracy was not bad up to about 20 feet or so. It beats throwing rocks in a bad situation. Thanks for the video.
It was actually used in the film "blood in blood out" by the lady pcp dealer..
And in Matrix Reloaded.
One was used in the Original Blade Runner
Im really late to the party, just looked this gun up because it was on 21 jump street (2012). It was the gun in the VW bug during the biker chase.
I remember that I was thinking about soon as I seen the gun .
I had one of these in the 80s, and from the ads in Shotgun News it looked a lot smaller than it actually was. It was well built, and reliable, but it was too heavy for what it was. Shooting it was not fun; the only other pistol that was as unpleasant to shoot as this one was one of the Cobray .45/.410 derringers. My job at the time required one duty revolver to be worn (with two speedloader clips on the belt; mine were made by Super Vel) and a backup pistol to be worn on an ankle or shoulder rig. I thought that this pistol would be my ankle backup, but I noticed after a couple of weeks that I was walking with a gait due to the weight of this thing. I ended up switching to a Raven .25 as a backup piece. It was lighter, easier to shoot and held more rounds than the COP.
A Raven MP25 would not have been my first choice, but it would obviously be way easier to ankle carry.
Dec.2019 Standard Mfg makes S333 which is 22mag double barrel
revolver which fires both barrels same time. Holds 8 so 4 shots of 2.
American Derringer also produced them in the early 90's and they where also available in .22 rimfire magnum as well, which is a lot more convincing for a compact pepperbox but running 158 grain jacketed semi-wadcutters (yes, I'm that old :P ) out of the .357 would be pretty effective. Accuracy is poor but it's really meant as an up close and personal, last ditch weapon, not a range gun. :)
Got one for just $600 many years ago as the first person to respond to the seller's post. It's definitely a beautiful firearm
7:25. I agree with your preferences. I also collect a lot of unconventional stuff. I would love to own one of these COP derringers one day too. Not for anything serious like concealed carry (though it could function in that role if it had to), but for use as a unique collectible conversation piece that could be a conversation starter at the local range.
I had one of these briefly, It consistently misfired the lower left barrel. And Gawd what a heavy trigger. I took it back and got something different.
In Blade Runner, the Replicant named "Leon" shoots a detective who is questioning him. They modified the gun to fire TWO barrels simultaneously so that there was a bigger flash when it was fired.
Actually mine shot very well, with .38 ammo - forget the .357 mag stuff! Absolutely reliable, it was pretty accurate at 10 feet or less. What more could you ask a tiny little handgun to do? But in truth my Colt Cobra was about the same size and a bit easier to handle. That plus one more round made it a better choice I guess. Still wish I had both, which I sold long ago.
I actually/personally watched Pete and Charley Seecamp sandblasting these frames at Waldron Co Inc in North Haven, Ct. around 1976 to 1978 when I worked there.
The pepperboxes of the 1800's were known for accidentally firing all rounds at the same time when the flame propagated. One of Mark Twain's stories explains what this looked like when that happened.
When they first came out I saw one at a gun show. First thing I noticed when I picked it up was how heavy and thick it was. Yes heavy....
In Bladerunner it was modified to fire just two of the barrels. This was apparently because it gives a nicer muzzle flash for the cameras.
I love this gun! I believe it was released in 1974. I uncle bought one when they first came out so that’s what he told me. They are pretty hard to find nowadays. I think I paid like 1200 for mine complete with the case and manual
This was also seen in the hands of Vinnie Jones (or "Billy Wings") in the movie "Hell Ride"
I would happily accept a C.O.P. as a gift, but I doubt you'll ever catch me buying one.
Great review though!!! Thanks a TON! my curiosity is a bit more satisfied today, thanks to you :)
Safe to say TF2 Shortstop in real life?
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MineGaryCraft no. the shortstop shoots tiny shotgun shells. this shoots individual bullets, fuckhead.
Dick Richardson have you heard of shotshells?
@@bonz5983 edgy old TH-cam comment lol
You have a lot of unique guns. I really enjoys watching your videos on them. Thanks for the video!
Cop went out of production in the early 80's, one of their jobbers sold them out in 83, @ $99.00 to dealers. I bought as many as I could, and sold them out in 2 weeks @$135.00. The original retail price was IIRC $250.00. They have been seen in the new Battlestar Gallactica show.
It also made an appearance in the TV show "Psych"
Somebody should start making them again! You know how much they run on GB?
@4:00 I love how just it in your hand shows the biggest reason it never caught on while you wonder aloud why it didn't catch on in popularity heh
thanks for the heads up bro. ive been in the market to purchase one and probably still will but knew only the pros not the cons. good info! thanks!
I bought one a few years back at a Florida pawnshop for $500 pretty mint with box and all. Shoots pretty well-more accurate then one might think (though kicks like a mule with .357) though trigger pull takes some getting used too. Best shot point style tightening grip while bringing online to target. Tends to print with each barrel in its corner and at 25 yards is real tough to keep all shots on target but manageable with practice (painful though). Wear gloves!
Nice! I've been wanting to get a derringer and this one doesn't look that bad!
And it was added on March 4th. Four barrels, four days.
nice history on it! I have one, no manual, box or anything though. I actually really love shooting it and sometimes c-carry depending on what I'm wearing.
It doesn't employ the usual hammer sear arrangement. Works more along the lines of a hand held staple gun.
C.O.P. Stands for Compact Off-duty Police I believe.Neat gun.Seen one like this new un-fired in box for $900.00 at a show today.
Just an extra bit of geek info...also in an episode of Stargate SG-1 season 10 epi 16 'Bad guys'. I had to actually look to see if such a gun existed and that search brought me to several youtube videos such as this one. Really neat gun. Cheers.
It was also the gun pulled out of the glove box of the pink vw bug in the recent film 21 jump street
Are the four barrels rifled or smoothbore?
me and my brother have 2 consecutive serial numbers, it's crazy how much they are worth today
Wow nice and so great pistol to put trigger in way but how much this kind of pistol?
About the cop 357 derringer my dad use to own one the reason why the trigger was so hard because that was a safety feature that must people didn't know you have to pull the trigger fast for it to shoot.
Derrick Suttles "you have to pull the trigger fast for it to shoot."
EVERY GUN NEEDS TO PULL THAT TRIGGER FAST GENIUS!
Since when you pull trigger of a gun slowly? you'll be dead before you even pull the trigger, not big surprise
Just after they ceased production, distributors were dumping them for $95-$99 ea. I bought all I could, and they all sold within a week. Original Retail was $250.00
Although I'm not an "oddity" gun collector, I would love to have one.
It kicks like you caught a baseball bat at full swing. OUTCH! Bought mine when they first went into production. Used it with Tompson contender shot shells for snakes when canoing in texas. Sold mine when the chambers started to swell.
I am planning on picking one of these up as I too collect unusual firearms, there is little to no information on disassembling or cleaning this weapon available. could you put up a vid of disassembly and the firing mechanism
@excertion1234 If you're used to handling guns and discussing them with other shooters it is customary AND safe practice to show the gun empty and SAFE. It carries through even in videos .... it's considerate. Now you know.
Good review. Thanks for posting. I have to agree with you. I too am into weird stuff.
Great video, thanks. I have a chance of acquiring one if I trade a KelTec Sub 2000 9mm. Do you think I should?
Damn, you have so many badass guns!
My mother? Let me tell you about my mother!
hey,ur vid was heplful,i did not know it fired counter clockwise,have u found out how many were made,just wound like to know,my serial# is in the low 5000,but cant find anything about how many were made,i wish i could have found the one i have for 300.00 at a gun show,an all u need for ur kit is the leather holster they made for it,well if u have anything u can tell me please do,THANKS
I remember shooting it in the 80s. My father had it.
The trigger was the worst and very inaccurate.
Its meant to be used up close
@@ericdraven7185 Which may be true, but if it's the one gun you carry and you need to take a shot at just 10yds, I would feel pretty uneasy with it.
the first gun I unlocked in team fortress 2 but sill pretty cool in real life I guess
It was a bit too large for a hideout gun, heavy as well, it retailed for $250.00. After the Company closed, the remaining pistols sold wholesale for $99.00, selling retail for whatever one could get.
It was also in Blood In Blood Out. The PCP lab
everyone is talking about short stop... idk who the hell that is. but I remember it from blood in blood out. "cuidado con el chorizo" lmfao
i know its designed by the same man who designed the whitney wolverine which will be my next semi auto purchase. the wolverine was his favorite design.
What's the going rate for a like new COP?
Just looks sick af
this thing is in tf2 it's called the shortstop
real life shortstop
is this thing legal in Canada ?
I wonder why people hate these guns so much, honestly I love them, sure it isn't the best thing in the world but I love
It was also in a Movie Called Blood N Blood Out
how much do these go for today?
$600+. The .22 is actually worth more than the .357.
@@MrJC7071 where can I buy the 357?
that's my favorite scout gun
yours has black grips? I thought the gun was all metal grips and all
tip and dump on shell eject. berrel 3.5 or so i think and can fire 38 spcl rounds as well. will be buried with my cop. tgey are going anywhere from 600 - 1100 even though book value is about 200-350. last time i checked that is
Did they ever make 4 way moonclips for this?
i want one of these so bad. this or the legend 45/70 alaskan survival derringer
That gun was in 21 Jump street
This + the Holy Makorol + The Milkman = +25 HP.
.357 for a backup gun is a bit odd. makes it too big. how many were made?
mike allen By today's standards, yes. Looking back at when this was made, .357/.38spl revolvers were still standard for law enforcement (with many departments not even ALLOWING semis), so it would make more sense to have a (relatively) compact BUG use the same cartridge as your duty revolver.
dammit i want one, this is like the tenth time I've watched this. I don't even want it to shoot, just to have.
Bad boys.
You can always change that trigger tension and put the lighter spring. What a deal.
Shouldn't the Scout have this?
Ah there is a handgun with two barrells that is sold in the US that fires both barrels at the same time. The atf lets this gun be sold without a special permit. It's by Aresnal Firearms and it fires .45 ACP, .38 Super Auto. It's the AF2011-A1 DOUBLE BARREL PISTOL The magazine is 16 bullets. Eight bullets each chamber and both chambers fire at the same time.
Does it come in a 32?
The trigger was probubly designed for two hand shooting, more accuracy ect
Need a smaller version in .327 magnum and 32 acp
what sort of mechanism does it have to fire the bullets in turn?
The double action mechanism of the trigger rotates the hammer between each chamber.
NukleOn is correct, the action is basically a rotating hammer enclosed in the back of this pistol. Said hammer strikes basically a "firing ball" (it looks more like a ball than a proper firing pin). The hammer hits each one then index's onto the next chamber. I had mine fire a pair of barrels ONCE! A small sliver of Stainless Steel caused one of those balls too press against the back of a round. The force of shooting/recoil caused a second discharge. I have never heard of this happenning to anyone else but with only a couple thousand manufactured there is not much feedback. That is the only problem I have ever had and a good cleaning after disassembly corrected the problem.
FYI a pair of full house .357 mags going off together will really get your attention:)
It would've been awesome if it shot all four at once. If a home intruder ever invades my house while I'm wearing a light red shirt and light brown pants, I'd love to have it on hand. SHORTSTOP!
Great gun....I've had mine for over 30 years....shoots good and smooth...If you know how to hold it right...Index finger along side the barrel and the middle finger on the trigger...Point and shoot
ya i figured that was why, but still you might as will be firing an artillery piece
i remember seeing ads in the mid 70's
Yeah.... in Shotgun News. It was widely advertised.
i would love to have all 4 at once but alas it may only be a dream
I really want one, it was in an episode of Stargate SG-1 (s10e16)
+SbI29 im gonna check that out now
The trigger job . Horror flick🤨🤨
i haven't seen one in gun store yet..
Correction. It could not be called an a.o.w. I mis remembered that particular definition. My apologies
What's the barrel length?
Seems they were ahead of their time with this.
heck yah whats the use of firing one at a time lol I want all four to go off at once
Well too bad, you can't have a machine gun.
sweet, I tried to find one of these about a year ago. when i finally found one I couldn't afford it (900.00). ...maybe some day
I bought one of these brand new when they came out, what a P.O.S. It must have a 20 lb trigger pull plus the pull is so long it takes forever to squeeze the trigger. The barrel is so short you can't hit anything over ten feet away. Because the barrels are all pointing from a different direction you can't put two shots in the same place. With .357 mag loads it is hard to hold on to because of the crappy hand, grip. I fired 4 rounds and got rid if it. Worst gun I even owned.
My father knew the group of machinists in Torrance where we lived at the time that made these. I had one of the first ones they produced. The firing pin constantly broke and or malfunctioned. Trigger was ridiculous. Besides being a cool looking gun, it weighed a ton and was a piece of junk. Collectors bugged me for years to buy from me. I finally sold to a big dealer in the LA area. I would have never trusted this gun for personal protection. The production run of these was very small making them very collectible today.
Interesting for ten guns the same modell
this bad lil gun I gotta get one what's price on these
+Thomas Holt Answer @ 7:45
Great novelty gun, but horrible for anything other than display. I also have a "Downsizer" derringer (that must be super rare as I've never seen one anywhere) which is also good only for display. If nothing else, maybe the rarity of these guns make them good investments, but otherwise they're pure craptasticness.
OH only 1 barrel shoots at a time! Well in that case I still don't want to shoot it lol. I can tell it doesn't feel good.
if it shot all 4 barrels it would be at fine because it would be a volley gun not a machine gun
nice shortstop, is it strange? ill giv u 2 ref for it
cool i want one!