The Ugly Truth About Recruiters!

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    8:49 - ghosting
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  • @econdude3811
    @econdude3811 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    If you've had at least one bad experience with a recruiter, raise your hand [raises both hands]

    • @innocentrage1
      @innocentrage1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I wish I was an octopus so I could raise 8

    • @HisameArtwork
      @HisameArtwork ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@innocentrage1 I live in East Europe, I didn't even know ghosting was rude. It's just standard practice here.
      and of course personal questions, I wouldn't say they blatantly discriminate against young women like they do in Greece and Italy, but doesn't mean they won't lowball you more than men.

    • @MannyLoxx2010
      @MannyLoxx2010 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ghosting is very disrespectful and rude in American culture, in general!

  • @christophergreen3809
    @christophergreen3809 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When I was in tech I noticed that most recruiters were pretty young things that knew next to nothing about what we actually did!

  • @ahlsrobe
    @ahlsrobe ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Recruiters may root for you during the interview but they will drop you like a hot potato once you are rejected. A good sign that the recruiter is losing faith in you is if they stop calling you on the phone to see how the interviews went and just start using emails. This happened to me earlier this month. In the final round of interviews and the background check process, I noticed that the recruiter stopped calling me to see how things were going and resorted to just emails even though it was down to me and one other candidate. The following week, the recruiter sent a final email saying that I didn't get the job. I told her that I was disappointed but glad that she let me know. I haven't head from her since. If I was an ideal candidate, then why wouldn't she stay in contact to find me another opportunity? It's because I'm just a number like everyone else. I've instilled this one mind set for the last 4 years: You still have to look out for yourself and you are only important to the recruiter until you are eliminated. I will still use recruiters but I won't hang on them to get the job. It's up to me and only me.

    • @BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
      @BewareTheLilyOfTheValley ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They may not have had anything else available. I work for a small office where the job roles are filled for many years by each person, so we don't have a lot of turnover or a lot of room for additional people. Also, given that most roles only require one person, there are more rejections than acceptances. Expecting the recruiter to keep in touch with everyone they've rejected sounds a bit extreme. They might keep your resume on hand but again, there might have just not been anything else at the company. Or...what unfortunately disqualified you was something that cannot be looked past and the decision is final for any roles at the company. But that's a rather bleak outlook, lol.
      Your sentiment of looking out for yourself is correct, but I wouldn't look upon that with bitterness or be upset. It is what it is, and you never know what they have going on behind the scenes. Rely upon yourself but do so because you're confident in yourself :)

    • @bird7464
      @bird7464 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley I was about to say the same. They may not have anything else right know. Don't take it personally.

    • @ifkanoloshuwaaallah.2341
      @ifkanoloshuwaaallah.2341 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve had a job do that to me too😂they went from calling to emailing me that I didn’t get the job. It would have been more humane had they called me. I guess you’re right.

    • @Sdollas
      @Sdollas ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I get your point and it's true. But being a recruiter myself..it's so fast and the competition is a lot. You have to fight every day against 10 other agencies working the same job, internal recruiters sourcing, etc. That's why

    • @waynec369
      @waynec369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dealt with a half-ass recruiting outfit that would NOT take, or place, a phone call. I think that is a sign in and of itself.

  • @breakmywalletmotorsport
    @breakmywalletmotorsport ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Recruiters are love/hate but working with an experienced recruiter that can hold a conversation is usually a pleasant conversation despite what happens as far as the role.

    • @Ian-vh2vv
      @Ian-vh2vv ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice car

    • @BillClinton228
      @BillClinton228 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The last recruiter that wanted to talk to me asked me "why do you want to work for us" even though SHE EMAILED me. My skills are in demand and I've already had two offers so I just told her "you contacted me, so why do you want me to work for you"... needless to say she wasnt happy with that answer.
      Are we still playing this "you need to beg me for a job" game?

  • @jalabi99
    @jalabi99 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My "favorite" recruiters are the ones who send you emails from with job descriptions then when you ask them who the end client is, they refuse to tell you. Five minutes later you get another email from another recruiter from the same recruitment company, sending you the exact same description. I usually wait for five of them to send those emails, then click "Reply All" with all the other recruiters emails on it, and say "Talk among yourselves"

  • @jimkoney4200
    @jimkoney4200 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    My first job out of college was as an Agency Recruiter. What I took from the job was how to interview when I went to look for another job.

  • @325xitgrocgetter
    @325xitgrocgetter ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I get calls from recruiters and my experience varies...my favorite was getting a cold call from a recruiter who engaged me in the following way:
    I found you on Linkedin...would you be interested in this position?
    I said sure. Then the tone changed. He started to pick my experience a part and started to say "you have health care experience, this position is finance."
    I responded, "You called me." He continued to complain about my lack of experience. I was being very honest with him and repeated "And yet you called me." What was annoying was his "you don't have the experience we are looking for, why would you want to work for us?" I'm baffled...he is the one who cold called me. "And yet, you are the one who called me, I hope you have a nice day." And hung up on him.
    I'm assuming he had a list of leads to call and discovered I wasn't a fit and took his frustrations out on me which was a waste of time for both of us.

    • @ALifeAfterLayoff
      @ALifeAfterLayoff  ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Sorry you had to deal with this. Some recruiters aren't so good.

    • @tarekyared4404
      @tarekyared4404 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      That sounds embarrassingly bad. Maybe not quite as embarrassing, but I've had recruiters call me with a position based on a nearly 10 year old archived resume. And of course, the position is not applicable or aligned with my present career trajectory.

    • @BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
      @BewareTheLilyOfTheValley ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Sounds like this guy didn't know two very simple words: "I'm sorry," or "My mistake," or "My bad," lol.

    • @septegram
      @septegram ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@tarekyared4404 I have been getting that a lot. It's weird. "Hey, would you be interested in this job like what you were doing eight years ago, and that probably pays half what you're making?"
      I usually respond with a politer version of "your algorithm needs to be tweaked. I have a degree and eight years experience in my current field. Please dont waste your time or mine unless you are offering a fully-remote position in my field with a substantial pay increase, because I really like my current position."

    • @tnsrs2719
      @tnsrs2719 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah had once an actual interview. 60% spend talking about what i did in other jobs and why i left them. Obviously the answer " What i was achieving there was not what i wanted for my career, but i needed the money" sounds passé

  • @aslkdjfzxcv9779
    @aslkdjfzxcv9779 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    recruiter / new car sales.
    same person, same MO.

  • @chanelf.4934
    @chanelf.4934 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I don’t trust recruiters, especially those that work at agencies offering me a contract or FTE position. These people are bottoms of the barrel and I’d rather throw my resume in the fray than deal with their lies. I can trust internal recruiters a little at a company because they are basically HR in my eyes.

  • @mr10pink
    @mr10pink 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I get often contacted by recruiters, often. Those are not corporate ones. I never experienced one of them to be able to find a role. In my mind recruiters seemed useless, since each of my positions came without a recruiter. Would love to meet one who able to provide with a job. Also experienced being on company side, where outside recruiters provided candidates. Those selections were quite bad. Maybe I had bad luck and never met good ones.

  • @Fawn0001
    @Fawn0001 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I was recruited for a job and the hiring manage (who I had worked with before) proceeded to tell me all the reasons why I wasnt a good fit for the job. I said "Hey, your HR department recruited me and asked me to apply." That is when I figured out they were only using me to meet a quota.

  • @michaelcosta7235
    @michaelcosta7235 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My favorite is when they call me, offer a salary way below my current salary and then tell me I'm overpaid at my current job. Bye Felicia.

  • @corinalina
    @corinalina ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I once was called by a recruiter that offered me a fantastic opportunity at... The company where I was already working for... And the position was... In my team! Needless to say, the recruiter hadn't even had a look at my LinkedIn to verify that the CV they had was up to date, but had a good instinct for what would work for me (at least they deserve credit for this). My manager and I had a good laugh about this one.

  • @jennyc5100
    @jennyc5100 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thank you, Brian. I’ve found that job seekers sometimes don’t take into account other reasons for lack of a call back, or news of acceptance or rejection.
    The other reasons can include the myriad of derailing situations going on inside of companies that sometimes happen due to external events beyond their control.
    I think it’s important for job seekers (for their own well-being) to know that sometimes, something happened inside, and the job opening had to be put on hold or cancelled altogether.

    • @matts1392
      @matts1392 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think it's important for recruiters to know that we, as job seekers, don't care what happened inside. All we know is that you didn't take five minutes to call us to tell us that we were rejected, or that the position was put on hold, or that the position was canceled. When you cut corners and disrespect us, we see you and we remember. It doesn't happen often but I savor the opportunity to ghost a recruiter that ghosted me.

  • @bethiciaprasek9415
    @bethiciaprasek9415 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I prefer working with the hiring manager first, internal recruiter next, and outside recruiter least. That being said, I know a couple good specialized external recruiters. Even if I am not interested, it was reasonable to expect I could be a good fit. I provide alternate potential candidates to them when I can. Earlier in my career I was afraid to state my salary expectations. I felt it was giving away my hand and still have discomfort with it. Currently I am more comfortable doing so. I have a well paying job and don't want to waste either of our time. Plus even if I weren't working and desperately needed work then a position way outside of my expectations would probably not be as challenging as I would like. Thanks for your videos. I feel they have helped me with the salary discussion.

  • @jetjiles49
    @jetjiles49 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    5:50
    I absolutely 💯 hate this, even though I understand the reasoning behind this. The reason is because the amount of recruiters/hiring managers who can't seem to figure out what can or can't do.
    Like if you cannot figure out that I've had 5 years + experience in an optical lab by reading my job title, than I'd rather not work for you. Its my equivalent of finding grammatical or spelling errors in job ads.

  • @aj_aka_alan
    @aj_aka_alan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In the tech field, agency recruiter quality has gone down hill. I ignore 98% of them. I just won't talk to them unless they approach me showing that they paid attention to a resume or linked profile. I will never reply to a mail merge exercise. Local co-ed agency recruiters who can meet me for lunch will always get priority responses.

  • @Lev79T
    @Lev79T ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've had recruiters reject me over the phone and then they have the gall to ask me if I know anyone else who is looking for a job and would be a good fit for the same position. Even if I did, what makes you think I'm going to help you after you rejected me?

  • @JosephDickson
    @JosephDickson ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A recruiter supervisor called to effectively talk me out of applying. I thought that was odd, it's obviously their job to reject applicants as needed. Perhaps he was using the conversation for training purposes. 😆

  • @jaredlash5002
    @jaredlash5002 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've had a few experiences with recruiters and they differ wildly.
    One recruiter, an external recruiter, set me up with an interview and it was obvious from the start that the hiring manager and I were both wasting our time. My math experience (me having more calculus, diff eq, analysis, versus them wanting experience in computational realms such as numerical linear algebra) and C++ development skills were not at all aligned with the expectations for a developer at that company. I get that an external recruiter without a degree in math wouldn't necessarily understand the requirements for that position.
    Another recruiter, an internal recruiter, ghosted me at the beginning of the pandemic despite being told I was going on to the final round of interviews. It turns out that he was furloughed during that time. We never did pick back up on the process when he returned. He said he would check on it and I never heard from him again. (Oh well, that company is going through rounds of layoffs now, so I dodged a bullet.)
    I've also had some internal recruiters who genuinely seemed happy for me when I've made it through the interviews and they were able to provide me an offer.
    In short, my experiences largely align with what Brian is saying in this video.

  • @imogendedo8296
    @imogendedo8296 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You nailed it. I started 20 years ago in an agency setting and now is a corporate recruiter. I can confirm every bit.

  • @pooboobob
    @pooboobob ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Wow! I never knew there was such a large spectrum of recruiters, I've dealt with both ends of that spectrum. On the good end, a recruiter helped me revise my resume for my desired salary. On the worse end, I had a recruiter recruit me for a facilities tech job that was supposed to be temp to hire. I have an IT background, they placed me in a warehouse, after that contract ended, they proceeded to place me as a "facilities tech" job for an IT company. Just because the title has tech in it, does not make it a tech job. They got angry with me because I quit on the grounds of not wanting to be a janitor. That recruiter was kiiinda racist. Heres another instance, I was recently laid-off as a SQL based reporting data analyst. The recruiter that was hired to place us recently laid-off former employees, saw me resume and asked if I was interested in getting into manufacturing despite my functional on the job experience in IT support and analytics. To me they saw a person of color walk in and despite the resume, they assumed that I'd be fine working in a warehouse, not on a computer. I had to walk away and ignore any of their follow-ups calls.
    But yeah, dealing with recruiters is a necessary evil but tends to be extremely hit or miss creer-wise, especially when in a vulnerable situation because bills don't care if you are between jobs, I've had head hunters reach out to me from my turned-off linked-in profile and resume while I was in the hospital literally because I have an expired A+ certification.

  • @latinaanderson7700
    @latinaanderson7700 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've gone through quite a few temp services over time to get work and some were good at finding me work, finding me something else if an assignment they sent me to wasn't a good fit and staying in touch in general. Some really stink though. I've had one or two that put me through a whole application process and never stayed in touch. Some will have recruiters that are so bad at calling you back about jobs you're interested in that even they are telling you they think is a good fit for you, you practically have to hire a PI to track them down to be able to talk to them. I remember a long time ago I was signed up with a temp service and I happened to be friends with one of the recruiters there and he told me he overheard a couple of other recruiters who were working with me say that they weren't going to bother trying to find me assignments because they didn't feel that I wanted to work, which was strange because although I had signed up for temp to perm jobs only, there were a few very short assignments that I accepted because I did want to work. I was really annoyed with them and dropped them because I felt that was pretty unprofessional and gossipy.

  • @Hello-rl6lp
    @Hello-rl6lp ปีที่แล้ว

    Always, great content!

  • @tiffanysalling4272
    @tiffanysalling4272 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I get emails all the time from various recruiters, but its always for jobs outside of what's on my resume - I have a 10+ history in Inbound Call Center Experience and some level one Tech Support (did you turn it off and back on again? Did you unplug it and plug it back in?) Inventory/Asset Control work of like 5 years, and some warehouse stuff and yet I get emails about Project manager positions or Engineering, Bio-Engineering type of jobs. I'm like "Do you people even read my resume?"
    Though I heard there are a lot of recruitment agencies that are fake and steal your info off of sites where you post your resume.

  • @thelazycrafter4u
    @thelazycrafter4u ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I dealt with a very terrible 3rd party recruiter who knew nothing about boundaries. Constantly texting me at 6am. Their excuse was a time zone difference in the US. I got so fed up with this recruiter. I sent them text messages at 6am their time.

  • @justinhudson7101
    @justinhudson7101 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    3rd party recruiter here from the insurance claims and underwriting industry. I agree with you. There are many transactional money hungry agency recruiters that only focus on the transactional aspects of the job. They care little for the candidates and know little about the jobs they are promoting. I'm a recruiter and account manager with years of experience, and I spend a lot of time with my clients, getting to know each job and what it means to be a voice piece for each company. I also spend a lot of time with each candidate, learning their skill sets and career desires. In addition, I believe an investment in each candidate is imperative to usher them along the process. This means a full vetting process, resume rebuilds, interview preps, interview debriefs, negotiating on their behalf, and complete transparency via the entire process. In all honesty, I'm only serving myself if the candidates don't know the facts, and I'm providing a disservice to my clients as well. The vision for each placement should be aligning a long-term relationship between candidates and clients alike. When there is honesty, integrity, and full transparency in an agency recruiter, you can't go wrong. You can smell a rat coming from a mile away, so stay away from the used car salesman agency recruiters. They'll tell you what they believe you need to hear. They will also drop you when they can't place you. I love what I do, and for me, it's all about helping others, whether it's through my agency or giving them direction to apply to clients I don't even represent . Any agency recruiters reading this that are operating on the contrary, trust me, the money will come when you learn how to serve your marketplace and value the relationship. The relationships I build are for the life of my career, and I make an amazing income. Cheers, everyone!

  • @paulhornbogen980
    @paulhornbogen980 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir, quality information. Prof. moving from behavioral sciences to cybersecurity and soft engineering. Sir, you are so correct in customization. Keep it up.

  • @waynec369
    @waynec369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After my recent, and only, experience with a recruiting agency, I have decided if a potential employer will not deal with me directly, I'm not even gonna bother with them. Very few people know and understand the type of work I do. Especially recruiters and even HR in general.

  • @raventhorX
    @raventhorX ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just want to find out how to cut out the middle man and send my resume directly to a hiring manager or something.

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      @ALifeAfterLayoff  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Check out Unlocking LinkedIn. (Link in the video description).

  • @calbarton
    @calbarton ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love that you're using davinci resolve. good to see.

  • @BigPoleTightHole
    @BigPoleTightHole ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In my experience, especially in the IT industry, they are working for the companies not the potential employees. I've had recruiters ask for 3 references, like one of my references better than myself, and submit him to the job posting I was interested in. Burned a huge bridge with me, and I tell anyone I can to avoid them.

    • @patd7352
      @patd7352 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've had recruiters demand references, then market to my references within 48 hours. Have had that happen TWICE. I doubt the job I applied for even existed. (IT industry)

    • @BigPoleTightHole
      @BigPoleTightHole ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@patd7352 - yeah, they are just reference farming. Before LinkedIn really took off it was a much bigger problem in my experience. They would put a too good to be true job on monster or indeed, and build a network of connections from there

    • @LetsGoChaseThatTrain
      @LetsGoChaseThatTrain ปีที่แล้ว

      They're ALWAYS working for the employers. I had one bluntly tell me that when I called to follow up a couple of weeks later. And that was 20 years ago.

  • @TheMaxx111
    @TheMaxx111 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My problem with recruiters is all the lies I have heard from them. Often they post fake jobs to get you to apply, then call you now that they have your information. I have had many tell me they have someone they want to put me in touch with but again that is a complete fabrication. Many recruiters I have dealt with are just playing Phishing scams.

  • @theodoreroberts3407
    @theodoreroberts3407 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I see major problems. Because I have an extensive back ground I always have to take so much off of my resume (one page). I focus on what the job requires and tap into my experience to format my resume. In the past, employers have told me my full resume scares them and they know they can't pay me what I'm worth. That means you don't get the job. Otherwise large gaps appear, and you don't get the job.
    Then there's the other side, not one employer has tasked what I know and I absolutely hate getting child wages (below $18.00 an hour) with all I've put into my education and practical experience. I've put in the work and the time to get here.
    At one job, I was told I was overqualified and underqualified for the same job, same day. I left confused. I didn't get the job.
    I'm listening, what can you tell me to get to agreement with employers?

  • @nmoyer
    @nmoyer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What I find annoying about these third party recruiters is that never tell you the name of the company they are recruiting for until the end of the initial phone screen. I've had many instances where I am contacted by a recruiter, go through the whole phone screen and then realize I've already applied to this company directly.

  • @withpikachu2402
    @withpikachu2402 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video

  • @ptemptress03
    @ptemptress03 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do a video on how to discuss growth opportunities in an interview in a way that the recruiter doesn’t think you don’t want the job but is aware that you want the opportunities to grow as the primary means to make a lateral move?

  • @istvanpraha
    @istvanpraha 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's sad that the salary one is done first, once you're midlevel. People tell me I won't be happy with a paycut without asking if I'd be OK with it. The truth is that once your mid-level and in a high tax bracket, it sort of doesn't matter

  • @ericliu8720
    @ericliu8720 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is it that sometimes that one gets offers from a big company but rejected at mid tier firms?

  • @istvanpraha
    @istvanpraha 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just starting video but have to say, I have met my fair share of clueless HR screeners. The worst was at the tech company Appnexus and Pinterest. They'd have 24 year olds with inflated titles who were trying to copy Miranda Priestley Devil Wears Prada "I trust my gut" strategy. Places like that were bad. I remember an interview at Pinterest where they kept saying "read the annual report" and ended the interview because I was unprepared. The hitch? I was OVERPREPARED and all of the questions I asked = things not publicly posted. In fact, I thought I was going to impress by asking specifically about things not explained on their website. I felt like a misunderstood genius!

  • @pagrant
    @pagrant ปีที่แล้ว +2

    employment recruiters at employment agencies , i have hit and miss experience , had some good matches at some companies and had short good temporary experiences, and some bad matches. I have a disability . dyspraxia. Always the minimum wage offer per hour or slightly above minimum wage per hour. I remember one job was paying twice as much per hour sort of a red flag as the job description was very very brief

  • @frostyphish7149
    @frostyphish7149 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was always under the impression that inmails on LinkedIn were just spammed across hundreds of people? They mention they looked at my profile and think it’s a good match but my profile view counts haven’t moved one bit…Should I take them seriously? Some of the JD reqs look customized but want 8 years of finance experience when I’m only 23 lol

  • @lialowe266
    @lialowe266 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have any tips on applying to jobs in other cities? I don't want my resume and/or application to be filtered out by not having the new city listed, but I also want to be honest as to my current location. Even if I mention the situation in a cover letter, hiring managers won't even see that info if the application is filtered out. Any suggestions?

  • @gem3008
    @gem3008 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been viewing your helpful videos recently. I have a recent use-case scenario I would respectfully like your feedback on. I had a third party recruiter set me up for an interview the day after I forwarded my resume to him. There were some interesting but baffling incidents I had never experienced before:
    - During my first interview with the hiring manager, I inquire why this was a contract role since there was so much work to do. She says good question but it's due to budget reasons and that they normally hire overseas to save money for these roles -is this a red flag? Then she asks for references and inquired whether I wanted to send them to her directly or go through the recruiter. Out of respect for the recruiter, I mentioned going through him as I typically would as I thought is the proper format.
    Should I have directly sent it to her myself and bypassed him?
    - Recruiter calls back and says once they talk to my references, they would move me forward. So I go to the trouble of lining up my references to let them know they will be getting a phone call. The recruiter calls one of my references and this is when I discovered he was actually a third-party recruiter.
    - A few days go by and still no calls to my references. Then the recruiter texts me and says I now have another interview with two colleagues on Thursday in order to move me forward. During the interview, the two colleagues never enabled their video yet I was expected to have my camera on. Was this a red flag?
    I probably provided too many best practices and trade secrets than I would've normally.
    I asked the recruiter about the references and he says the hiring manager jumped the gun and probably shouldn't have asked me. Was this another red flag?
    - Didn't land the role yet they now had all the trade secrets I shared. How do you manage giving all your trade secrets away during interviews? I felt like maybe now they had all that freely, they no longer required me and went with someone overseas possibly to save money. What do you think?

  • @jirenuniverse116
    @jirenuniverse116 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wonder why recruiters like to ghost people even if we told them that we're his/her company's loyal customer and love their product?

    • @ALifeAfterLayoff
      @ALifeAfterLayoff  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They don't. You just likely weren't a fit for their job.

    • @jirenuniverse116
      @jirenuniverse116 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ALifeAfterLayoff I'm sorry, i mean ghost people. Like even i failed at least tell me why I failed so I can improve myself.

  • @James-pt1fp
    @James-pt1fp ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you determine compensation expectations with rapid inflation and changing financial landscape?

  • @Pooh0Bear8
    @Pooh0Bear8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Most recruiters I don't mind.
    You learn quickly what 3rd party agencies trust and companies treat candidates poorly

  • @samxaiver9852
    @samxaiver9852 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another GOOD video1

  • @samanthahardy9903
    @samanthahardy9903 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a recruiter messaged me on Jobs Today to say that I would be a great candidate and a perfect fit for work at an I.T company as an I.T technician! I messaged them back stating, "If you bothered looking at my profile and resume I am looking for work in hospitality (where my experience is in) and have no experience of working in I.T whatsoever. So how can I be a great candidate and perfect fit for the job being offered? I didn't get a reply but I did research the recruiter and found out it was a scam recruiter.

  • @stonesfan285
    @stonesfan285 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't talk to them anymore unless they agree to my 'consulting agreement' which is basically $50/hr for phone screenings, interviews, travel to/from the interview, assessments/assignments and agree to pay for my lodging and meals if it is out of state. My current employer agreed to this and hired me on the spot. Most recruiters that are wasting my time are scared off by it and I had one that refused to pay me and I won a default in small claims court for like $250 after I took two days off for interviews and they ghosted me and never mailed me a check.

  • @bshorrar
    @bshorrar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't know who else stayed to the end of the video - but it abruptly cuts off at the end. just FYI.

  • @StillAwakeAwareDiscerning
    @StillAwakeAwareDiscerning ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How about the black list? I had accepted a position, only to be offered one month later, another position that I had found on my own, (this company just moved slower). This second position offered medical benefits, which the first position would not be able to do for up to a year or more. I needed medical benefits to get divorced. I later discovered that accepting the second position, I was out on a black list.

    • @ALifeAfterLayoff
      @ALifeAfterLayoff  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Blacklisted by whom?

    • @StillAwakeAwareDiscerning
      @StillAwakeAwareDiscerning ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ALifeAfterLayoff The industry that I am in is very small, but nationwide. All the recruiters know each other. I had injured the guy that they all saw as the elder statesman. I had to get divorced. I really had no choice.

    • @StillAwakeAwareDiscerning
      @StillAwakeAwareDiscerning ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ALifeAfterLayoff To clarify: I had started looking on my own as this recruiter had presented a position that was a step down from what I was looking for. I asked him if I could give him my answer in the morning, he said ok. When I called him the next day, he said he had already offered to another candidate. That I needed to say yes immediately or he was going to move on.

    • @NitroDubzzz
      @NitroDubzzz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StillAwakeAwareDiscerning was it out of negligence? How did you injure him?

  • @SciaticaDrums
    @SciaticaDrums ปีที่แล้ว

    I pass right through HR/recruiter screenings. I've never failed one. My wife worked in HR. The issue I have with current recruiters of a specific nationality is them calling me, I can't answer usually because I'm driving and answering the call is ILLEGAL and they call right back. I will block that number every time.

  • @ronroberts9545
    @ronroberts9545 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First I must say I do enjoy your videos, but as a driver in the trucking industry like most drivers in the field, we all know The Ugly Truth About Recruiters. It's simple they will tell you whatever you want to hear to get you to come and work for their company.😉

  • @briceyokem9236
    @briceyokem9236 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have gotten different stories from Recruiters. Some say a resume' needs to be BRIEF, Brief is the operative word. Others say put everything you did on it, so my Resume' is 4 pages long.

    • @tiffanysalling4272
      @tiffanysalling4272 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ideally the "packet" you submit with your application should contain in this order:
      1.) Cover Letter
      2.) 1 Page Resume listing Education, skills, work history (no more than 7 years) (single page resume only)
      3.) List of no more than 6 professional references with their contact information

  • @istvanpraha
    @istvanpraha 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As per fluff, I have a nightmare coworker. He is nice to everyone but useless but people always do him favors so stuff technically gets done and my boss doesn't understand why I hate him. His linkedin and basically every conversation are cobbled together fake information and lies to create a business-guru persona. It's beyond ridiculous at this point. I know he can't get hired anywhere else because any fool outside of my company can see the fluff for what it is

  • @joannevans9629
    @joannevans9629 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here is one that really yanks my chain. An in-house recruiter from a local big pharmaceutical company wrote to me asking to speak with me. It's been a while but I believe I applied to one of their jobs. I'd spoken with this person in the past and she was sure there'd be a place for me as they worked to fill a large number of jobs but it wasn't to be. So, I wrote back to her and said to schedule a time that is best for her calendar. She just blew me off. I resent the message and again nothing. This type of disrespect is terrible. I'm sure it's because of my age. It is becoming clear they only want younger talent.

    • @colinhiggins4779
      @colinhiggins4779 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      see my post above about internal / in-house recruiters. They are a total waste of time.

  • @TeamVenture88
    @TeamVenture88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about when companies consistently use staffing agencies simply to find interviewees to fulfill a 10 interview requirement and are planning to hire from inside the entire time. You go to interviews with hope unsuspecting in not knowing you aren't going to get the job no matter how qualified you are and how well you do in the interview. I found out from the inside I wasted a lot of time and hope because of this.

  • @g41133
    @g41133 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've actually been recruited to several jobs by third party recruiters. They all did an excellent job at answering all my questions and concerns. They were so accommodating and great at getting me good jobs that I rely on them for job searches. On the other hand, corporate recruiters that I've had experience with rarely reply or care to answer questions, eventhough I'm well qualified for the job and was able to get the job faster other ways.

  • @joerockhead7246
    @joerockhead7246 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a recruiter schedule a 2nd interview the following week. She ghosted me. I would not work with her again.

  • @korytoombs886
    @korytoombs886 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me who has a lot of jobs = usually talking directly to the owner or the manager of that business = what is a recruiter?

  • @Meg841
    @Meg841 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Had an interview with the internal recruiter then referred to the hiring manager thought both interviews went well. Hadn’t heard back in a few weeks. Went online to see if there was status update and it said in red WITHDRAWAL! Why couldn’t they send me a canned rejection email this is a major corporation?

    • @ALifeAfterLayoff
      @ALifeAfterLayoff  ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you reach out to the recruiter for a status update?

    • @Meg841
      @Meg841 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ALifeAfterLayoff I did and radio silence that’s what prompted me to check online. She was excellent with communications, but post interview with the hiring manager all I got was crickets.

    • @ALifeAfterLayoff
      @ALifeAfterLayoff  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hmm. Check out this video. th-cam.com/video/F-FmIW1dBQA/w-d-xo.html

    • @Meg841
      @Meg841 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ALifeAfterLayoff Thank you! Checking out the video now

  • @rosamoreno4794
    @rosamoreno4794 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do recruiters get paid more than personnel analyst?

    • @ALifeAfterLayoff
      @ALifeAfterLayoff  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m not sure what a personnel analyst is?

  • @Native722
    @Native722 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've had recruiters cancel interviews, oh well.

  • @MooseBme
    @MooseBme ปีที่แล้ว

    !(: Well said ;!)

  • @after50
    @after50 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's talk about 3rd party agencies/off shore "recruiters". Companies have reqs that go into a portal that multiple agencies receive. Those agencies then spam job seekers through LinkedIn and other job search portals. These agencies are not Tier 1 vendors with the company that is hiring. Once you allow that agency to "present" you, which means they add your information to that portal, you are unable to have any other agency present you. You go into a "black hole". I absolutely hate having to explain to these off shore agencies that I have been submitted for a req and check a job number. These "recruiters" do keyword searches so they don't know anything about the role they are recruiting for. I have had conversations explaining that Adobe has a multitude of products and the one that is in the job description is not the one I have experience in. Try asking any of these agencies what their status is with the company they are recruiting for. The process is tiring.

    • @jalabi99
      @jalabi99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A way out of that is to request for a "right to represent" letter from them. Then whatever one they send you, you send them back yours with a line there that goes "I give XYZ Recruiters the exclusive right to represent for this role, for three business days, starting today."

    • @after50
      @after50 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jalabi99 Thank you. I will start doing that.

  • @TatharNuar
    @TatharNuar ปีที่แล้ว

    Why are there two intros?

  • @danny1103
    @danny1103 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:45 Very true where my company have had hired an onshore vendor provided a developer who claimed can do ABC on their resume, but on day 1 when our team tested his knowledge by giving him an assignment that relates to ABC, he got exposed, failed, and then got kicked out by lunch. Some kind of BS on a resume cannot be bluffed.

  • @SquishMe
    @SquishMe ปีที่แล้ว

    i strongly disagree on lying, you gotta be smart on what to lie about, i have ALWAYS lied in all my interviews and have never had a problem once i got the job (engineering roles)...

  • @ccmetalhead
    @ccmetalhead ปีที่แล้ว

    "Recruiters come in all shapes and sizes"
    Even a blind squirrel finds a nut

  • @wks2291
    @wks2291 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    recruiters are NOT your friends, be careful what you say to them and when you are no longer in the running for the position, they won't waste a single second of their time on you.

  • @daveshostack4950
    @daveshostack4950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NEVER GO THROUGH RECRUITERS. GO DIRECTLY TO THE COMPANY THAT YOU ARE SEEKING EMPLOYMENT AT.

    • @JohnDargan-gp7lo
      @JohnDargan-gp7lo ปีที่แล้ว

      if you apply on the companies career site you will connect with an internal recruiter who works with the hiring team. Ads on job platforms can be from an agency.

  • @anacap007
    @anacap007 ปีที่แล้ว

    Corporate recruiters are generally much better than third-party head hunters. For third-party recruiters it's just a numbers game. They cast a really wide net and hope to get a 1%-2% hit ratio. They are acting more like bots than anything else. And then the off-shore ones, and we all know which country they are from, are sometimes downright rude and want immediate response and then ghost you if aren't getting to the next round. I would say, don't take it personally, everyone's trying to scrape out a living.

    • @MannyLoxx2010
      @MannyLoxx2010 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indian recruiters are the worst!

  • @EJ1443
    @EJ1443 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You gotta love those clearly foreign recruiters who send you jobs that are nowhere near where you live…. They really need to start googling the address and the job location …then there are those who call you a few times within a few minutes of each call and cannot be bothered to just leave a voicemail..to top it off, they have a thick accent that is hard to understand yet are unable to answer my questions via email…🤬😡

    • @MannyLoxx2010
      @MannyLoxx2010 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      SAY IT, Indian Recruiters!! They suck, in general!! 😬😏

  • @metri0n
    @metri0n ปีที่แล้ว

    Recruiters are there to help you! I never treated recruiters bad because yes they are getting paid but when you do well, they do well. Never understood treating recruiters poorly... They don't necessarily have to take you on and help you so they are still going out of there way to help. I always treat the recruiters respectfully. The employers on the other hand... Fuck em, most would own slaves if it were legal. That's just facts

  • @ronjcharity
    @ronjcharity ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video, based on the ones I've dealt with are used car salesmen. will sell you to a slaughter house...

  • @roadtrip2943
    @roadtrip2943 ปีที่แล้ว

    During 80s I had a recruiter present me to companies that would post direct employment ads in the sunday newspaper. His contact tipped him off.
    I had present himself at my work phone
    under one name , light conversation. Then he would under another name push for me to consider an interview at another company. Double dipper deceiver. He obviously had a candidate for my job ready to go. How about the recruiter with no leads asking where I interviewed . Sneaky

  • @abqyardbird
    @abqyardbird 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I may be the minority. For serious offers and interviews, corporate recruiters can be exceptionally helpful. It is their fault if the candidate did not work out or the company goes in a different direction. This should not suggest i have not had my share of disappointment. Dust off and move on.. I am in a position now where a previous 'you do not have the right education' decline has circled back 30 days later wanting to talk.

  • @joyfulstella
    @joyfulstella ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will forever be indebted to you, you've changed my whole life i'll will continue to preach about your name for the whole world to hear you've saved me from a huge financial debt with just little investment all thanks to Mrs Sophia

  • @jeannierobertson1210
    @jeannierobertson1210 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Recruiters ghost you after promising you to ge t back w itch you either w ay

  • @joyfulstella
    @joyfulstella ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing videos and thank you for breaking it down!.Despite the economic downturn, I'm so happy I have been earning $ 45,000 returns from my $8,000 investment every 14 days. All thanks to Mrs Sophia

  • @colinhiggins4779
    @colinhiggins4779 ปีที่แล้ว

    After working many years in my industry, and with a fair number of recruiters, I can say that much of this video is flat out wrong. Why?
    1. Third party recruiters (headhunters) are much better than internal recruiters or "talent scouts". An internal recruiter is the HR lady at-best, who doesn't know a thing about technology, or even the business process. She is a paper pusher working in a cost center. Even a formal talent scout simply works for a salary and surfs Linkedin and job sites--such a person has ZERO incentive in placing you in a position at the company. They don't work on commission.
    2. Internal recruiters will sometimes send multiple offer letters out to candidates with different pay rates. The one who accepts the lowest offer gets the job, while the others *think* they got the job, but when they send the signed offer letter back to the company, it never gets signed at the other end. The internal recruiter than ghosts the candidate. If a 3rd party, or external recruiter did this, their reputation would be ruined--but internal recruiters don't care. They are out to find the cheapest candidate, not the best. The mandate is to keep costs down.
    3. Internal recruiters are not going to "sell the position" to you. They look at the candidate as an inconvenience and more paperwork. They are typically icy, or downright rude.
    Now there are a lot of bad Third Party recruiters out there, but the key is to find a good one who has a lot of experience in the industry, technical knowledge, etc. That is your best bet.

  • @tercial
    @tercial ปีที่แล้ว

    It just got me recruiters are useless 🤦🏿‍♂️

  • @pintu7386
    @pintu7386 ปีที่แล้ว

    In Australia, we have a unique problem. We have few overseas companies like Wipro, TCS & Infosys that can provide cheap Candidates from overseas to Local australian companies like Telstra or ANZ bank etc. Now these companies (Wipro, TCS or Infosys) would outsource or sublet hiring to many other smaller recruiting companies. Small recruiting companies include Axiom Technology, Zone IT, IDC, silver link , resource corner, PanAsia, City People Solutions, Ampstek, BCS technology etc. For example, if Telstra needs a candidate, the TCS, Wipro or Infosys would sublet task to these smaller recruiting companies. Recruiter from small companies would start spamming inboxes of all avavlable candidates. So when candidate receives a recruiter's call, the candidate finds 02 recruiting companies and the end client is always a 3rd party. Too many recruiters would approach for the same role. Recruiter would always be in a hurry. Urgently needing yr resume. And in the recruiter’s Portal, If u appear already represented, the recruiter would ask u for an alternate email. It appears very doggy, as 3 companies are involved and each will get its own share of salary or daily rate, which is not good for applicant.

  • @scam-likely4202
    @scam-likely4202 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    scamers!!!