The Indiana Fever Have A Erica Wheeler AND Kelsey Mitchell PROBLEM
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- The Indiana Fever Have A Erica Wheeler AND Kelsey Mitchell PROBLEM
Many Indiana Fever fans think Erica Wheeler needs to be traded. Other fans think Kelsey Mitchell is a ball hog. Are the allegations true? In this video, I break it down.
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Kelsey is best when she allows the game to come to her. Excellent analysis, Carter!
I agree. Thank you!
I guarantee Mitchell adjusting to CC play will greatly improve following this All-Star break. Wheeler on the other hand has no place on the floor. She gotta go immediately
Disagree about Mitchell. She is just too selfish. She is clearly competing with Caitlin. Remember that Caitlin passed Mitchell on her way to setting the NCAA scoring record. She has also passed Kelsey in a few other lists in the NCAA and now in the WNBA. I think Kelsey feels overshadowed and feels the ned to prove herself. Kelsey is also a free agent after this season, so it is a contract year for her. She is clearly playing for herself and NOT the team. I do not expect this to change. She praises Caitlin, then goes out and again refuses to pass her the ball. Definitely not a team player--at all.
@@petep5207 There will be a line of GM's eager to get Mitchell if Fever let her go. Re-watch the all-star game. Insiders say that Mitchell is being bothered by depression following the death of her dad, so that might be affecting her play.
She is the highest paid player on the team with minimal return. Shes a UFA at the end of the year too. She's gone.
@@PatrickSchoenfelderIt won't happen.
@@petep5207 I see no hope for Wheeler. But I have seen some improvement with Mitchell. Time will tell if she can get out of her own way, or not.
If only Kelsey would embrace Caitlin’s superior passing ability. Caitlin creates opportunities for her teammates to shine. Nobody else can do that.
Carter’s best comment on the video Mitchell plays like she is hypnotized shoot, shoot shoot, shoot. That was priceless.
Wheeler is a liability but anyone who wants to trade Mitchell is crazy.
But Mitchell needs a better coach
Keeping Mitchell is a good thing. Unfortunately to trade for a good player you have to be willing to trade away a good player. Right now Mitchell and Smith are their most marketable players besides CC and AB, and those two aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
@@markyg236 I would rather give up Smith, no question.
Thanks, I appreciate your more analytical approach to talking about the Fever - rather than just emphasizing the drama
Same. As someone who didn't grow up playing basketball, it helps me appreciate the game more, the more I understand it.
I’m glad you’re enjoying the videos!
Christie Sides, Wheeler and Wallace is the problem. With the right kind of coaching Kelsey Mitchell could be useful.
I agree entirely.
I think Mitchell is getting better working in the system.
you need her she can get her own,doesn't need to be set up
bro I almost always agree with you but a kelsey layup is better than clark open 3
@@thomasespositio3139a wide open three is better than a contested layup from Kelsey who is almost out of control as she is moving to the rim with two defensive players on her.
She’s less of a ball hog than she was in the beginning of the season. She certainly shouldn’t be waiving anyone off, just past the ball when you’re supposed to. That’s on the coaching staff, she’s simply allowed to do it.
Her speed can be a massive asset for the team if she continues to learn how to harness it. I think the All Star weekend taught her a lot.
It annoys me to no end, the dribbling around in circles and the dead end passes.
A high school coach could see that. So why can’t Sides put an end to it?
Get rid of Lin Dumb and Crusty Sideshow!
@@JE-ICGot a new account, eh? This kind of personal comment is gross.
@@gummybeer119 my account has not changed. I don't know who you think I am, but this is the same TH-cam account I've had for many years.
@@JE-IC OK, my bad.
because side is a high school coach but she is a bad high school coach.
Wheeler wastes so much time running around in circles. Then doesn’t score. I don’t care how much she is getting paid. She doesn’t fit the team.
I agree!
Mitchell’s tendency to drive and shoot is similar to Caitlin’s drive to pass the ball. Even CC herself says she gets tunnel vision and has the tendency to over pass. When they both hone this in they will be a top team for sure.
That's an interesting point.
I'm among the biggest Caitlin fanboys, but despite Kelsey Mitchell driving me crazy occasionally I totally accept her faults as I think the good far outweighs the bad. For one thing she is a scoring drought preventer. Other than that 30 point lead they blew I can't recall many long droughts. Secondly, as a team one thing that also drives me crazy is all the shot clock violations. True, she takes some wild shots, but without Kelsey the shot clock violations would have me in a straitjacket. Keep up the great analysis. I agree having a third best player this good is a true blessing.
I think Mitchell is coming around and accepting her new role. Mitchell like Wheeler dribble too much, she does best when she dribbles 3 times or less and either shoots or passes, when she dribbles too much the defense has time to catch up with taller players and make things more difficult for her.. I would have Mitchell hang around the 3 point line and when she gets the ball to either shoot or pass right away.. Having her hang around the 3 point line will also open up the defense because she is a big threat from there.. If she does nothing else practice more and more from the 3 point line and stop dribbling..
nah Mitchell is only interested in making sure she gets signed by a top team when her contract is up.
My guess is you are about to catch fire . You are good really good
Grade A+ Analytics, Provides examples, and provides the evidence and footage to illustrate his point. Not to mention his production is on point
Thank you!
I thought Mitchell didn't mesh well earlier in the year, but really started clicking later before the break. With Mitchell you gotta take the good with the bad. Generally the good more than outweighs the bad.
Wheeler just isn’t a fit on this team or if she comes in Clark still needs to run the offense or sit Clark for 2-5mins when she does. Sides though seems to want the on the court at same time and Wheeler runs things.
Mitchell is fine except she needs to learn to kick it back out when lane closes and as you pointed out should always get it to Clark to take it up court or to reset the offense.
If neither player can or wants to do that then they should be traded or released.
Mick, Ben and yourself should be coaching the Indiana Fever, for real. CC and her team's progress is the biggest story in sports right now. You three are, by far, the best at bringing it to us fans! Thank you all for the outstanding coverage!
you're on target.
Thank you! It’s an honor. 💯
Carter, i love your insights and analysis! Thank you for taking the time to create these podcasts!
I'd like to share some thoughts on Kelsey Mitchell, if i may.
Before Caitlin Clark's college campaign to break scoring records, Kelsey Mitchell was #2 in all time NCAA Division 1 scoring. The only person with more was Kelsey Plum.
In 2024, TWO young upstarts surpassed her achievement: Caitlin, who ended up as #1, and Dyaisha Fair who ended up as #3. (Kelsey Plum held on to #2.)
I'm sure Kelsey felt a certain way about having one of the rookies who surpassed her achievement drafted to the Fever. Especially the rookie who was surrounded by hype. I feel empathy for Kelsey.
A better coach would have anticipated this and helped Kelsey process her feelings about this. However, Kelsey didn't have a better coach, she had Crusty Sideshow.
I'm certain Kelsey's feelings about this played a role in the problems with team chemistry in the first 10-12 games of the season.
I do believe the chemistry has improved between Kelsey and Caitlin. I think Kelsey has started to recognize Caitlin's value as a point guard, and Kelsey has started to appreciate having the ball fed to her when she's open. I believe Kelsey understands that her percentages look better when she shoots while open. And i think she's starting to realize Caitlin definitely WILL pass to her when she's open.
Another area where i feel empathy for Kelsey: she has never, not even once, had a winning season since getting drafted into the Fever shit show. She has endured a parade of crappy GM's and coaches for 6 years now, including the current ones. It must be demoralizing. She was the #2 pick in 2018, and hasn't had a winning season in 6 years. Imagine how miserable that must feel.
I feel encouraged at seeing Kelsey pass to Caitlin and others. I also think the time the Fever players hung out at the all-star game helped their chemistry. I suspect that seeing how other people there treated Caitlin may have helped Kelsey see her rookie in a new light.
Also, as Caitlin is starting to be allowed to blossom in Fever games, Kelsey is starting to enjoy feeling what it's like to win.
I want Kelsey to learn to like playing with Caitlin and Aliyah, including feeling less threatened by them and therefore more willing to pass to Caitlin. I hope to see it happen.
Thanks for the information on Kelsey. I researched Kelsey when Caitlin joined the team and was impressed by her stats. She won the Dawn Staley Award in 2018. Caitlin has won it three times (2021-2023). I believed that Kelsey felt that she would be overshadowed by Caitlin's attention but recently she has embraced Caitlin's skills and has credited Caitlin for an increased in her numbers. Teamwork is important and I have seen a great improvement and trust between Kelsey and Caitlin. th-cam.com/video/RFcJNCSXJ_E/w-d-xo.html
The history is interesting, but the one thing that everybody ignores is that Mitchell's father, a career assistant coach at Ohio State who was undoubtedly very important in her life and development as a player, died suddenly at 56 in March this year. While we're trying to analyze her psyche, I suspect that may have had a significant role in her performance. The other important thing to realize is that Clark has never played with a guard who is one tenth as good as Mitchell. Clark has had to learn to look outside and back for Mitchell, especially in the situations where the inside is jammed and where trying to force the ball in is a high risk for a turnover, but defensive coverage of Mitchell outside is likely to be light or none. At Iowa, kicking the ball back was a last ditch desperation move for Clark. With Mitchell it's a winning strategy.
@@PatrickSchoenfelder thank you for that background on Kelsey. I wasn't aware that her father recently passed away. I agree with you that it certainly could have affected her performance. That kind of loss is hard under any circumstances, but the timing of having it happen right before the season started probably made it harder.
I also agree with your point that Caitlin has not been accustomed to having a guard as skilled as Kelsey to work with.
Thank you! I appreciate your comments! This is very sound speculation. Well said.
@@PatrickSchoenfelder I am glad you brought that up. I think about it a lot, she was really close to her dad, and as you noted, he was really involved in her development, not just as her father, but as one of her coaches at THE Ohio State University. Losing a parent is usually hard, but to have it be unexpected, and him so young...
Some folks have criticized her for not always celebrating with the team, or whatever. I can say from experience, sometimes these moments of joy around you are the times the loss hits you out of nowhere, hard. I would love to see her given a little more grace this season.
You're breakdowns are the best! Agree with your take on Erica and Kelsey. Think Kelsey is keeper even though she has her iso mentality, you can tell she's slowly adapting and does understand CC tallent. I think that's because her whole 6 or so years with the fever shes never experienced playing with someone at Caitlin level who creates open plays for her and Kelsey has always relied on herself to get her buckets when you've never been on a top team. Players have come and go and Kelsey has stayed on that team and probably took the role as the shooter and thats probably her team before CC came. So compared to the 22-24 yr olds on the team who are newer and kelsey just needed more time to adjust. Even Temi who is older has said its rare to play with a point guard who can find her and knows shes open. Kelsey also broke the college scoring record before Caitlin at one point (theres a video where u can see no one cares about at that time because it wasn't popular) so maybe there could of been jealousy there because CC gets attention for all her record breakers. But if you look into Kelsey history shes just a hooper who played with the boys growing up like Caitlin and played basketball with her twin sister in Highschool. Seems like she was raise well. Unlike Wheeler, kelsey is more talented player who is worth keeping and can adapt.
Kelsey is definitely a keeper, but needs firmer coaching to find her role on the team. I saw a change in her as the first half of the season progressed.
Wheeler 🤪😜 has to go.
Agreed
You're spot on as usual! Wheeler makes me want to pull my hair out. She's gotta go.
Trade or cut Wheeler. Give Grace some minutes and try to resign Taylor.
yes, yes, yes
It would be interesting to see a video or two about the Phoenix Mercury and Chicago Sky, as Indiana will probably spend the rest of the season wrestling with them for playoff position.
Wheeler needs to start a cheerleader squad for the team.
I enjoy your videos and you will get to 10K easy
I appreciate that! I’ll take your word!
Great analysis. I’d have to go back and look, but did you do a video on why the Fever squashed that 30 point lead?
Why? Wheeler
I never did. Well, technically I “did,” but I was never able to post it. I’m glad you’ve reminded me to remake that video!
Mitchell is a firecracker and I've never seen her miss around the basket.
2 blown layups in this video
She misses but it's rare compared to others on our team, especially when you take her size into account. If she was 6 feet tall she'd be a superstar. Genetics are a damn shame sometimes..😂
Mitchell seems to finally be learning to pass the ball.
She used to be a black hole once she touched the ball.
She is now fantastic.
Hull and Boston are a great fit.
I think the missing piece of the puzzle is free agent Breanna Stewart
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@@gummybeer119 If she were six feet tall she'd probably be slower and not as quick. Carter has a video in which she misses a bunch of short range baskets and lay-ups, seemingly because she is bothered by contact. Her shooting percentages are better than others on the team, including Clark's, but not great. Chennedy Carter is the best guard for inside and mid range in the W, shooting an amazing 51.8% on 336 shots. Only the bigs are ahead of her, including Boston. Carter can't shoot threes, but has the good sense not to try, shooting only 15 attempts so far.
I saw Mitchell miss a good look the other day and nearly fell off my chair ......Her consistency from a good look is truly remarkable. Kelsey is a superstar .....she just needed the right player alongside her to really shine ❤
Kelsey has tunnel vision when she has the ball and only sees the basket. She'll drive into traffic sometimes and throw up a brick when there's a wide open teammate she could have passed to. Lately it seems like she's accepting her role more though as an off ball shooter and has never had so many wide open shots in her life. CC draws so much defensive attention that Kelsey, Katie Lou, Lexi, etc. are getting shots without a defender anywhere near them.
AK Nation gave you a great recommendation.
Really? That’s amazing! Do you happen to know what video the recommendation is in? Regardless, thanks!
I think your vids are really good. 👍 maybe since Olympics are on you could do some content about 3v3 games. Seems like with Unrivaled trying to do something too that 3v3 is becoming a game that the powers that be want to push out there more. Maybe because they think it’s more fast paced or ??? What are your thoughts? Is 3v3 something to get into or are they trying to cash in on a marketing strategy? What’s the angle? I don’t know enough about 3v3 differences and why it’s coming up so much now.
Wheeler played in a ProAm over the break. Let us pray that translates into something.
No more ring around the rosie dribbles that lead to nothing! What will we laugh about?
@@CC_Fan2024 CC breaking defenders ankles
@@markyg236 That's our girl, yep.
I love me some Kelsey Mitchell. Yes, she needs to move the ball more. She's already orders of magnitude better at it than she was to start the year, and there's no reason to think she won't continue to improve. She plays hard always, hits timely shots, and is currently our most reliable 3 point shooter. Just a gamer. She labored through so many bad years without almost no help in Indy. Her speed, her motor, and her fearlessness is not easy to replace. I want to see her shine on this current team. I can live with some amount of one on one because let's be serious, she can make enough of those shots that I understand why she goes there. Some folks act like there's some perfect players out there we can get, but I promise you, there are not!
If our current version if Kelsey Mitchell is wrong, I don't wanna be right. 😅
Erica...sigh. I like her so much as a person, but as a player she's keeping Grace Berger off the floor and that cannot continue. She has to be signed for much less as our bench mentor. I think we have already started to see them shifting in that direction. Now we need to bid Wallace a fond goodbye as well so Grace can get significant burn. She has so much potential as a combo guard. She can shoot the hell out of that middy and she has the tools to be make a defensive impact. Once or twice a game, I would love to see her in a little bit of a unconventional pick and roll with Clark.
And if it's in the cards to part with Mitchell, I damn sure want Grace to be ready... not thrown into the fire all of a sudden. 😂
I would correct you on the dislike part, it isn't a dislike so much as she just doesn't play good ball and is way over paid she is an amazing hype woman from the bench but her game is done.
Why would anyone not “like” Wheeler?? I don’t think she fits this team but I like her.
Letting Mitchell go to another team would be stupid as she is a dynamic scorer that CC is looking to feed. Mitchell just needs to learn to also feed others!!
Kelsey has acknowledged that the increased in her numbers is primarily attributed to having a point guard (Caitlin) who has the game mindset. The trust and teamwork have improved greatly between Kelsey and Caitlin. th-cam.com/video/RFcJNCSXJ_E/w-d-xo.html
Mitchell is a good player but she needs to learn how to play with her teammates and stop hogging up the ball .and the only thing I have to say about Wheeler they should just trade her she takes up too much money and does too little to earn it..
I have to say that Mitchell is doing much better in these last 5 or so games. Not hogging the ball as much. Still needs to learn to pass when her shot isn’t there.
I think you’re spot on with this analysis. Erica Wheeler is unnecessary, and should be traded.
On the contrast, Kelsey Mitchell has improved in accepting being off ball, and she is a high level player when she sticks to that role.
Wheeler on final year of a max contract. Don't think there will be many takers. unfortunately
love "Caitlin Clark is becoming more of the point guard for the Indiana Fever." great! and it's only been what, 4 months? what insight and forethought and understanding of their players, by the general manager and coach! they're definitely on the ball with this.
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In the last 3 or4 games Mitchel started passing, if she keeps it up it will help her game. Wheeler is a lost cause.
Excellent analysis breakdown Mr Carter. I learn a lot from your analysis. I'm just a CC fan, not a BB expert
Conclusion
1 - Christie Sides must be fired immediately
2 - Erica Wheeler must be traded or permanently benched, as with Nalyssa Smith, but Kelsy Mitchell stays, and acquire new defense players, the bench must be made deeper
3- If I were the GM or Owner, I would replace Christie Sides with either Cheryl Miller or you Mr Carter .. seriously ..
Thank you.
I agree entirely!
Though, I may not be the best coach! lol. But hey, I’d LOVE to be in the locker room!
hey bro how about THE INDIANA FEVER HAVE A GM/COACH-COACHING PROBLEM
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wish I could subscribe again. giving props to Ben Daniels and Mick Talks Hoops -- classy, and you definitely deserve the traffic.
but also -- dude, you are rocking the mike! so much feeling! just a solid gas to listen to. (and watch -- lovely videos, with the replays and the highlighting!) "SHOOT. SHOOT. SHOOT."
and your intensity isn't overdone, or inappropriate. you give credit where it's due, and you point out what the players would benefit from paying attention to. I know you've heard this before, but if Christie Sides isn't playing your videos in the locker room -- well we already know the answer to that one. sigh.
Thank you! I appreciate the compliments, my friend.
@@CarterMomon you really make me glad to care about basketball. the hell with the haters and all the BS, WNBA dissing the players: SOMEbody cares about actual basketball. CC and her fans, even if her coach and GM are clueless. thank you for being there!
i think mitchell has tried to adjust to the way the fever should let cc play, definately improved over the season so far.
Great point. Mitchell can be great with proper coaching. Just look at her All Star game by coach Miller.
Proper coaching by Miller was essentially, in her own words, "just do your thing."
Thank you. When Mitchell plays off ball, she is our top scorer. Feels like she has started to learn
The Fever coach also has to get on KM back about playing better D. KM has a lot of quickness and energy. And I agree with what you said about KM on offense. She's better off the ball as you put it plus the Fever O benefits.
Erica Wheeler and Kristy Wallace came over from the Atlanta Dream with Sides. 3 bad decisions. Stuck with Sides the other two need to go. Mitchell shoots around 30% higher when she does not dribble. When she dribble once her % is low. I do not blame Mitchell this the way she plays. It is Sides for allowing her to dribble to know where.
I doubt they can trade Wheeler nobody would pay for Wheeler if she was traded.
Dont give up carter you got talent.
Thank you! I definitely won’t.
As much as I don't care to admit it I think you are spot on regarding EW and KM. What is admirable about CC is she seems to be constantly looking to forward the ball to where it can bring the best results and often that ends up in an assist. Little to no ball hogging. I enjoyed your earlier video on how KM might be coming around to realizing that CC and provide the opportunities for KM to become a more effective player. In defense of EW, I would say that it certainly doesn't hurt to have a guard on the bench who can fill in when the need arises.
Clark ranks #1 for number of 3-points attempted and #39 for percentage made -- behind more or less everyone whose name you recognize, including Mitchell. She's 42nd for overall shooting. In defense of CC, there was a stretch when she started being more careful with shot selection, still scoring the same number of points on 11 or 12 shots a game as on 15 to 20 earlier. However, Sides then stated publicly that she wanted Clark to take 15 to 20 shots a game, so she did. She isn't scoring any more points, so her percentage plummeted again. There are two arguments for what Sides is doing. One, she believes that Clark will, gradually or suddenly, improve her shooting percentage. The other, IMO more likely, is that Clark shooting all the time draws defensive coverage that opens up other players, especially Boston and Mitchell.
Half of the first half Sides has been trying to incorporate Wheeler with CC. For some reason Sides is convinced that CC can be the 2 guard next to Wheeler. CC looks like a fish out of water as the 2 guard. CC cannot be converted to a 2 Guard a 3, 4 or 5. I would rather you give her a break if you have to put Wheeler in the game. Mitchell, I would define her role in a very small box. You are a spot up shooter and a cutter. That is it.
Carter, please offer to assist the Fever coaching staff with player evaluations, scouting opponents, post game reviews, and draft /trade planning. Your evaluations and game analysis is great. Keep Kelsey for sure.
I love your analysis of the game compared to others on TH-cam. You analysis is great, respectful, and accurate. I’ve watched numerous shows and only watch yours and one other now. Great job! Love it! Keep up the great work and honesty.
Thank you! I truly appreciate your compliment!
Great videos man! Suggestion: ask for subscribers at the START AND at the end. Mic has far less quality to his videos but is growing faster purely due to subscriber requests I am convinced. Thanks again for your great work.
Noted! Thanks for the compliment!
Thanks for another good overview! Like your energy and specificity in your play choices.
My pleasure!
@@CarterMomon Though I am waiting for that link!
Once a team had a $5.00 fine foe bad shots. It was the whole team laughing at some one having to pay $50,00. Some how some way they need to get threw to Mitchell that more points are available from CC assists. i have seen Mitchell get back cuts for lay ups. In the All star game she made a unbelievable shot as the shot clock was running out from the left corner. The girl can shoot.
@@davidraevsky7782 She made that same shot in the same corner at the Fieldhouse...maybe against Chicago? I can't remember, but my seat was over in that corner and it was a hell of a moment.
Kels is definitely where you want the ball to go if you need a bailout shot.
I like Mitchell and the rest of the team … as a newbie. Erica Wheeler appears to be a nice person but way out of her depth. You know the game which is why I visit. I’m learning a lot. Thank you.
Play Grace Berger. Grace is the only other player besides CC who should be at the point. This keeps Kelsey at the two guard where she thrives and a passer on the floor to feed the machine. If it does not pan out, the Fever will be in a better position to evaluate their needs.
Carter you are the best! You are so on point with ur analysis of the Fever. Thanks for ur expertise!
I appreciate that!
I only ever had one concern about Kelsey, it had absolutely nothing to do with her ability ! It was that she looked like she was not enjoying her basketball. Lately she has seemed as if she has rediscovered her love of the game, laughing & smiling and most importantly.... happy. Caitlin is a once in a generation player. However, Kelsey is also key to the continued success of The Fever !!! Her consistency is truly remarkable. If she gets a good look it's going in. The partnership between Caitlin and Kelsey is blossoming and a beautiful thing to behold. My view is that Iowa became overly reliant on Caitlin. Other capable Iowa players were too willing to sit back and let Caitlin carry the full load. This was OK until they ran into a team capable of limiting although not stopping, Caitlin's impact ......LSU. The Fever need players like Kelsey, Aliyah, Lexi, Smith and the rest to play to their full potential. Every assist that Aliyah passes is one less that Caitlin needs to. Every 3 that Kelsey and Lexi sink take pressure off of Caitlin. Every minute the bench players can hold the line conserves the strength of the starters. Sides challenge is to get the rest of the squad performing to their max. The best engine will not win a race unless the clutch, gearbox and transmission are strong enough to deliver the power to rear wheels effectively.
❤ The Fever
Your excellent diagnosis and breaking up the film should be put into the hands of Coach sides' assistants so they can study film with your observations; keep the good work! Get it into the hands of the Fever!
Thank you! Hopefully one day that’ll be reality.
Mitchell is a good player but needs some coaching. It seems likes its getting better. The coach has finally figured it out. Duh!!
I think CC needed Mitchell. KM is a better version of Kate Martin
Maybe. Kate was better at defense and setting screens. But if Kelsey can learn to cover those gaps she could be a great fit for Caitlin.
Mitchell is adjusting to CC much better than she was dribbling on ISO plays early this season. She is doing pick-and-rolls or pops with CC, which is leading to more success. Please do a video on Nalyssa Smith and how you would use her: in the paint or corner 3.
Smith should play for another team.
A video comparison between Paige Bueckers and CC will be nice 😊
No thanks.
You were saying so much I was thinking. Great show.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I don’t like Erica Wheeler either but I just looked at some highlights of Erica Wheeler in 2019. What I saw was a player that doesn’t exist anymore. Erica was thinner and quicker and she had some nice moves and her shooting form was nice. She shot 6 3s in a row in one game. I didn’t recognize her but I must say she looked really good. What happened to her??
Well, my guess is that she’s simply aging. She’s 33 now. Time is running out. As I often recall, not everyone can play until 40 like Lebron.
@@CarterMomon it also may have something to do with Erica not taking care of herself and not wanting to maintain a high level of discipline. 33 is not old for someone to lose what they had when they were 29. I think she just lost her desire to be good. It takes work and discipline and unless you really want it, it’s hard to maintain. I suggest you watch that 2019 highlight video of Erica, I think someone needs to ask #17 on the Fever what she has done with Erica Wheeler.
@@casilatino Well, she is one of those that has played almost every "off-season" overseas. She has a lot of miles on the body for 33. The Fever actually paid her a bonus to not go overseas this past off-season. I was really hoping that extra rest would give us something closer to 2019 Wheeler, and I bet the team was too.
Also, just watching the way she moves...pure speculation but not completely uneducated, as I have worked on a number of athletes, including some pros, as a massage therapist...
I suspect she's been dealing with a series of nagging injuries for awhile now. The kind that doesn't knock you out of play completely but impacts how you play. Every time she's on the bench, she's got one of those back warmer/massager things on. She looks a lot stiffer than she used to be. I suspect she's in pain. Just my 1 cent.
Carter, I’d still like to see you break down the coaching role. What makes a good coach or a bad coach? That would be great. Maybe it’s not within your scope of knowledge to speak on? I hope it is.
For the record, you gave me the video idea on my latest video. Thank you for the suggestion!
Talk about the women’s Olympic Games. The game against Belgium was interesting. Anyhow, good channel
For anyone who thought that WNBA players are too physical, Belgium must have blown their minds. They played like NFL linemen. They had several good players, starting with Van Loo, but no solution to the twin towers, A'ja and Breanna, or to several other players except lots of contact. Every time they showed replays about fouls, the big question was "which of the six fouls on the play do you want to talk about?" Refs let them play because otherwise the whole Belgium team except maybe Van Loo would have fouled out by eight minutes into the first quarter.
Hocus-pocus crap shot. :) You know, Kelsey Mitchell of late has been peeling herself away a bit from her iso-ball, never-saw-a-shot-she-didn't-like way of playing. I actually saw her pass the ball to Caitlin more recently, and I almost fell out of my chair; but I think she realizes that she gets the ball passed to her a lot from Caitlin and realizes she can score that way and doesn't have to play keep-away all the time. Really good visual examples, as usual. By the way, it's so nice that you're getting called out from Mick and Ben ... see! ... you're videos are really well worth watching.
Thank you! I agree with your statements! Kelsey has definitely been improving. Me personally? I thought I was meeting my Maker when Kelsey started passing the ball to Caitlin. I fainted, woke up, realized what I had just witnessed, and I assumed I’d made it to Heaven.
Another great video. Love the analysis and solid breakdown of both players’ games. Would love to see you and Mictalkshoops do a live play by play commentary of a WNBA game.
Loved this video...no button for that, yet! :)
I appreciate you and your critiquing way.
Thank you!
I have a problem with Wheeler and Wallace not Mitchell because at least Mitchell is getting better at playing within the system of the Team 🏀🔥🤫😎
Kelsey Mitchell is a great shooter...but a horrible teammate. The worst part is, Mitchell plays with probably one of the most UNSELFISH players you will ever see, in Caitlin Clark...yet she STILL feels the need to be utterly selfish. You do NOT win a title with a player like Mitchell. She is literally the female Carmelo Anthony.
@@petep5207 That's harsh. Too harsh, I think. Other players have good things to say about Kels, about the kind of human being she is, her level of thoughtfulness and care. She's well respected around the league.
@@gummybeer119 - Same league that has shot the golden goose all season? Yeah, I don't think I trust their judgment very much, to be honest.
@@petep5207 I think the narrative about the league hating Caitlin is largely a fiction, so I guess we will not find a middle ground here.
Your too much dribble for nothing complaint for Wheeler is pretty common.
I think your doing a great Job with your cometary. So if Mitchell could improve her short game we wouldn't be having this problem or conversation.
Go Ben!!
Could you look at some comparisons and contrasts of CC to other teams guards? like the Liberty? Wouldn't mind your ideas on the losses vs the win.
I love KM. We need her.
Me too, I really like her. She's starting to have fun.
Love the game and player analysis always. You support everything you put out here with facts and film. TY.
Thank you! I appreciate it.
very nice breakdown as usual!
Good work, keep it up. Small bit of advice - dont use the phrase, white Jesus, it’s nonsense. Just ignore the stupid. Another topic of interest is what trades could we see coming up. How could the Fever roster change?
I really enjoy your commentary! You know your stuff!!
I appreciate that!
As soon as either Wheeler or Mitchell get the ball, I'm saying no way there passing it to anyone else, just going to shoot, mostvof the time I'm right. I would like to know how many assist they average per game and what there total is for their WNBA career.
ESPN has a good page for that kind of thing. Just go to their page and pick WNBA, and then Stats
Mick Talks Hoops is hard for me to watch. He usually is not prepared for his vids, he constantly uses the phrases ' I don't know', and 'don't hold me to that'. He also has to always look up facts on his pc about a topic that he himself titled about his vid. The guy just pukes out to many vids in each day without any real prep work.
I appreciate the progress they are making. Thanks for the good breakdowns and analysis.
I'd like you to comment on the upcoming WNBA player Paige Beuckers. I believer she is going to have an impact similar to CC as a play maker. Watch some of her highlights from UCONN and see what you think. I'm not saying she's on the same level as CC, but she's a great passer and will be the #1 draft pick.
The problems between Mitchell and Clark seem to be ironing out slowly, with glitches still regular occurrences. Mitchell seems to be getting used to the uptempo transitions that are one of the strongest points of Clark's game, Mitchell using her great speed -- she is simply the fastest player on the team and one of the fastest in the league -- to get position to be a target for Clark passes. When Clark sees her, good things tend too happen. Mitchell seems a little less sure what to do with herself when the pace slows down. Part -- not all -- of this is that Clark is not used to looking outside for pass receivers. She has never played with high quality guards before. At least some of Clark's turnover problems come from trying to force passes inside when the play is not there, and failing to realize that if the inside is being jammed by the defense there are likely to be people open for midrange and long range shots who would be good assist targets. The worst example of this was the bad turnover that effectively clinched the Dallas win. Clark had Mitchell wide open by at least ten feet on her right side and Boston wide open on her left by about the same, both perched on the three-point stripe where a basket -- and Mitchell is Fever's best three-point shooter statistically and Boston is not bad -- would have closed the game to one point with 35 seconds left. Instead of realizing that with all five defenders ahead of her and four of them collapsing on her people had to be open behind her, Clark didn't look back and to the side and dribbled into a trap and a crucial turnover. No one is perfect, but both Clark and Mitchell need to work on the idea of Mitchell getting open outside and Clark looking for her.
A big part of your complaints about Mitchell not looking for players to kick back to when she drives in traffic, including Clark for potentially open threes as the defense collapses on Mitchell, has to do with Mitchell missing driving lay-ups she should make and making these plays look bad. shots in traffic that everyone on all the Olympic teams routinely make, as do most WNBA guards, including Clark. You have talked about this earlier and been spot-on. Mitchell seems to be intimidated by contact and thrown off her game, causing her to miss shots she should hit. My suspicion is that Mitchell learned in the past to get past defenders with her tremendous speed and get unmolested shots. In the W, if you go down in the trees you're going to get contact -- solid contact, because there are too many defenders who won't be out-quicken.. To a considerable extent, this is a mirror image of Clark's troubles with three-point percentages, since she was used to being allowed to roam uncovered as long as she was far enough outside. In the W, she gets coverage all the way to the logo, and the coverage is by players who are quick, leap very well, and are fast, and also consistently close to her size as opposed to 5'7" Big-10 point guards, causing her to miss. Even when she is open she seems hurried because she feels the defense coming, again causing misses.
Anyhow, Mitchell and Clark need to get on the same wavelength, learn to be alert to what the other can do, and practice, practice, practice. If they do, and get to have teamwork like Clark and Boston already do. Fever will be immensely stronger, since both are among the top few guards in the league.
You're really good presentation and knowledge both I don't know what you do school or work or your age you're going to go places don't sell yourself short either.
Kelsey is a good player
Kelsey gets on my nerves. We know Wheeler is gonna
dribble dribble dribble but Kelsey will throw the ball away before she’d pass the ball.
I agree with everything he says about Erica Wheeler but I think she didn't pass soon enough in the examples he gives because she is selective about "who" she passes to. I also know that it is Christie Side's job to coach Erica on all the points he has demonstrated here so its not entirely Erica's fault and I believe Erica would follow whatever Sides coaches her to do.
CC should rest the last two minutes of the 1st and 3rd. With the commercial breaks and halftime, thats 23 minutes of rest while only missing 4 mins of playing time. That will keep her fresh at the end. That 4 mins is Erica's time to sink or swim. And anyone who thinks Mitchell is a problem just doesn't understand talent. She started the season out injured and is getting used to a brand new point guard that is ball dominant and ineffective as a two guard from the corner. They tried this with Grace at point early on and it was also a disaster. My guess is we've seen the last of Erica in a zfever uniform as she is a UFA and the highest paid player with minimal return. I look for the Fever to draft another point guard next year.
I like to call Mitchell's work in the lane "the shake 'n bake to nowhere". My daughter played on a team that had guards that did that, it looks good, but produces nothing. I will say that I think Mitchell's team play has gotten better, as in, she seems more willing to play the role of the inconspicuous shooter instead of the play maker. I even saw her pass the ball to CC a few times lately......incredible.
I do think Wheeler and Mitchell have potential, they just need better coaching or something. Or maybe if they can just subscribe to this channel they could get some good pointers. There’s a reason the star players get so much praise. They just do it better and have a natural high basketball IQ. Others just have to work at it a bit more but they can get there. Especially Kelsey, I don’t think she’s bad at all for flashes at a time. Maybe I’m being too optimistic but to me the Fever as a whole are actually a pretty decent team right now if they can just work together as they push into the playoffs.
We’ve seen a HUGE improvement with AB and CC working together. Now of course those are (potentially) the 2023 and 2023 rookies of the year playing together which is pretty incredible if you think about it but still, I think the team has a lot of potential even with the mediocre coaching Sides has shown through most of the season.
Fever a two players away and may already have one. An upgraded Hull, best if she can improve on her own, and someone who can at least slow down A'ja and Stewart.
Everybody make sure you check your subscription and notification bell in the channel , I got unsubbed for some reason.
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You could talk about the US - Belgium women’s game the other day. Those 12 best players Reeve keeps talking about are very questionable in some moments. If not for Stewie and Aja they would’ve lost that game
I think they can both go. Maybe if Mitchell can learn to pass in the 2nd half of the season I'll be OK with her. It's frustrating watching CC just stand around and never get the ball back once she passes. And if the plays are set for her to stand around, coach needs new plays. Not just CC, I think they all do it. They're so stagnant offensively when CC isn't running things.
Nah most of us love KM. We were frustrated cause she was missing layups and didn’t pass the ball.
E-Dub fouls too much and has bone head turnovers. If the Fever signs keeps her, they’re the dumbest org alive.
Carter is it my imagination or have you gotten more intense your last few videos, I love it! Carter I also watch Ben Daniels and Mick and I find you more analytical and very interesting. I also like it that you call a spade a spade and really let us know what you think of these players, good and bad. I am hoping your videos make it to the Fever team.
Thank you!