CB Base Antennas 101 Part 1: Cheap Antennas

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  • @knoxduder
    @knoxduder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Keep the great content coming! Everyone needs it now more then ever. The two-way has been booming since the pandemic.

    • @tinasouthern6927
      @tinasouthern6927 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I got a Cobra 29 XL and and I and I got a ground plane kit and I got a hundred to inch whip antenna not to die how to get out very little but I can hear very little to no other way to get to tell me what

  • @chetsjug
    @chetsjug 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My first base antenna was a Kraco center load magnet Mount stuck on top of our water cooler or what people call a swamp cooler in the Southwest.it was the perfect 4 x 4 ground plane for that silly 24-inch antenna.I got out a good 10 Mile in Los Angeles area which was plenty at the time it was so crowded after the 1977 boom.

  • @mikewalsh511
    @mikewalsh511 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    A simple wire dipole in a tree served me well for over 10 years. Super easy to make. Cut your coax connector off on one side and strip it back. Solder a 9 foot piece of wire to the center conductor and another 9 foot wire to the shield. Electrical tape those connections and string it up as a sideways "T" with the center conductor side going up and the outer conductor going down.

    • @hfvhf987
      @hfvhf987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and put a choke on the feedline to stop RF coming back down the outside of the braid on your feeder.

    • @jesseobrien5864
      @jesseobrien5864 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hfvhf987 what's a choke

    • @josephwade3241
      @josephwade3241 ปีที่แล้ว

      Been trying to make it work in my head to make a antenna like you are describing, but feeding it thru a 8ft. Hollowed out marine antenna I know I would need a foot sticking out, but would this work if I mounted it to the rear fender of my suburban without a ground plane?

    • @josephwade3241
      @josephwade3241 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would the barn doors and the lower half of the dipole radiation of the rear of my truck cause swr issues?

    • @mikewalsh511
      @mikewalsh511 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@josephwade3241 yes it likely will cause swr issues. Go with a roof mount antenna as close to the center of your vehicle as you can.

  • @jmsmaxwell
    @jmsmaxwell 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first antennas was a Radio Shack 102" steel whip mounted on my car. I graduated to a Radio shack 5/8 wave antenna and still have it. Can get almost zero swr out of it but I am still using an Avanti Full Wave antenna that I bought back in 1973. Still gets almost zero swr and works great for my purposes.

  • @HerbWalker
    @HerbWalker 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I put a 102 whip on my roof...…..Took two 108" copper cables and built a 45 degree ground plane. Talked all over this town with it, :)

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A DIY ground plane kit! love it. I was lucky when I had my 102 as a base. the old 70's mobile home I lived in had a metal roof and it worked like that of a car. Loved those days.

    • @HerbWalker
      @HerbWalker 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea in West Texas our A/Cs are metal box swamp coolers on the roof and that will work too.
      Before I put my A99 back up that 102" worked great with that 45 degree angled wires, but Boy ,she was ugly as sin. LOL
      I wish I could get a picture to ya, some would look at it and say THAT will never work but it did and good too. :)
      NjoY Your videos brother
      The 'Boogeyman" stalking folks on 19 /14 AM :)

    • @Stevestefano85
      @Stevestefano85 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got the exact same antenna set up you do can easily talk 30 miles any day of the week

    • @aerialheights5680
      @aerialheights5680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You made a Starduster.

  • @davidcooke7744
    @davidcooke7744 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hi I started with a mobile whip on a biscuit tin.

  • @AdaptationActual
    @AdaptationActual 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hey man love your videos! I had a few questions. With the setup you described (102 whip and ground plane kit) do you need to run a ground wire into a copper pole in the earth as well to physically ground the antenna? Also any recommended coax cable lengths for this setup or does it not really matter? Thanks so much!

  • @johnmckinney1493
    @johnmckinney1493 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a antron with the ground plane kit. It rocks.

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The greatest bang for the buck out there!

    • @aerialheights5680
      @aerialheights5680 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FarpointFarms Actually, the *Proton99* beats it by a bit, is less expensive and is about a foot longer. Almost, and I mean *almost* keeps up with an older (good) Imax.

  • @bobsbarnworkshop
    @bobsbarnworkshop 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Before I had a steel roof on my house, I bought a mirror mount, put on a 102" whip, tapped 4 holes around the grounded mirror mount, made a couple metal bars to mount it on the middle of the roof on the top of the ridge, and stretched out four 102" ground plane wires which laid down the roof (creating the "droop"} and screwed the ends of the ground plane wires through rubber grommets at 90 degrees apart. Worked great! it was almost invisible too so the wife was happy! If I remember the SWR was almost perfect on all channels too!

  • @nastybastardatlive
    @nastybastardatlive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    In the 1970s the antenna to have was the moon raker or the big stick. Radio Shack had 1/4 waves, 1/2 waves, and full waves of their own. Radio Shack was a great store for anything electronic. I miss those guys.

    • @ghz24
      @ghz24 ปีที่แล้ว

      RS 1/4 waves were the bomb I loved mine. Lowest swr I've ever seen almost a perfect match. Wish I had the main part still.

    • @dan0711123
      @dan0711123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ghz24 The Archer 1/4 wave was the best 13 bucks I spent in 1976

    • @crosisofborg5524
      @crosisofborg5524 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I got my Astroplane at radio shak.

  • @buddycarroll9641
    @buddycarroll9641 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use a roof mount magnetic mobil antenna (Wilson 2000) mounted 0n a LARGE metal Pizza pan with four pieces of wire connected to the pizza pan to create a ground plane. It works phenomenal.

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  ปีที่แล้ว

      That would work with those runners. Good idea!

  • @frugalprepper
    @frugalprepper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why not just put up a Dipole or Inverted V Dipole, and make an air RF choke with 5 turns of 58 a 4 1/4 inches, then close the v till you get 50 ohms. It doesn't even have to be that exact and they work great. I am getting ready to do this to get an 11 meter rig on the air for emergency comms this weekend.

  • @Dallas-Rife-UDX-347-Tennessee
    @Dallas-Rife-UDX-347-Tennessee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    How did I miss this last year ? The good news is , this popped up in my suggestions 👍👍
    Good video 🇺🇸🇺🇸 , holler at you later Erik

  • @alalan3735
    @alalan3735 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Used 9 feet of wire on a bamboo pole! Works with radials or a CB tuner! ;)

  • @fordman2805
    @fordman2805 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really like your videos. I’m retiring next year and I want to set up a little shack upstairs. I’m a licensed ham and I want to set up a 2m rig and a C B base station .to save money I would like to mount my antennas on the same pole. One under other.they are both vertical antennas. Do you think it will work ok? the base of the 2m will be just above the roof peak. And theC B antenna will bellow that.

  • @snakeman2506
    @snakeman2506 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    i made mine out of a fishing rod and some copper wire, i have talked Melbourne to Sydney. and i love it

    • @HerbWalker
      @HerbWalker 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      GOOD Job, Yea I was just telling him, that some of the UGLIEST rigs sometimes work WELL. LOL
      Peace & Chicken Grease , from Texas!

    • @snakeman2506
      @snakeman2506 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yeah i have seen some antennas that look worse than Tracy Grimshaw and work great. thunder from down under.

    • @jacklowe3788
      @jacklowe3788 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HerbWalker Hey there "Rock Brother" ha-ha I recognized you - Funny I was just thinking about Ayers Kaserne as my metal Picture just arrived to my rural area in Blue Ridge Mountains where the Postman sometimes needs 4-wheel drive to get mail in -I fool around w/ old CB's & found this Guy's Channel - Really like his down to earth demeanor & Good Info. - Anyway Howdy Herb! The Rock - 3/36TH INFANTRY '83-'85

    • @snakeman2506
      @snakeman2506 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Semi professional hillbilly yeah im probably gonna rebuild it soon so i might do that.

    • @m.9243
      @m.9243 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here!
      A telescopic fiberglass rod with some 6 mm, 18 ft insulated wire in a helical fashion around it works wonders!
      I use a Yaesu antenna tuner to bring the SWR right down to almost 1:1 and have QSOs from Sydney with New Zealand, New Caledonia as well as the very north tip of Australia!
      Experimenting is the name of the game.

  • @madcarew.3256
    @madcarew.3256 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    in uk in the late 70s on AM I had a Skylab C.B. antenna and could cover most of Birmingham That long ago can't recall rig maybe Midland or wattage but Happy Days cheers

  • @wyatt7425
    @wyatt7425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just been in to CB for a few months now all your videos have been extremely helpful man thank you so much

  • @wescarpenter1615
    @wescarpenter1615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How about with a metal roof on a house? Would a magnet mount work?

  • @loganmacgyver2625
    @loganmacgyver2625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have a magmount on my house connected to a piece of grounded metal. And i madea 1200km contact with it

    • @izzydizzy1115
      @izzydizzy1115 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Logan MacGyver, how big of a piece of metal did you use and what kind of antenna? Please help as I'm trying to find something to use at my house. Thanks

    • @loganmacgyver2625
      @loganmacgyver2625 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@izzydizzy1115 I had a sirio 145 and just asked my dad to weld a T shape from some scrap metal he found

  • @CharlesSmith-ye3fv
    @CharlesSmith-ye3fv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for a 2 foot Circular desk made out of metal set your mobile antenna in the middle of it and you’ll have a ground blind

  • @CharlesSmith-ye3fv
    @CharlesSmith-ye3fv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But if you wanna get out distance it just get you a Moonraker put them up 25 to 80 feet high

  • @sziltner
    @sziltner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Back in the DAY...WAY BACK......running legal power.
    Hygain CLR-2
    Running more power. Avanti ASTRO Plane
    Still had more fun WAY back then, than I have since in all my 40 years of ham radio.

    • @tgc5201
      @tgc5201 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same here! I agree 100%.

  • @vintageguitarz1
    @vintageguitarz1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are the best, friendly and casual, interesting and knowledgeable videos. (unlike Mr. Smart-ass "NotARubicon") Would you cover, if you haven't yet, antenna's for best SSB use)

  • @joistein
    @joistein 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a 1/4 mobile antenna about 2.65 m long on a metal roof and it works fine if it's not snow on the roof.

  • @greggould4275
    @greggould4275 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Quick question! I wired my 75' long RG 213 Coax through conduit ut to a backyard shack where I will mount the solarcon A-99.Cable length is ok, but, for a bit more height and reach, I wanted to know if I could add about 10' more RG 213 Coax to the COAX have laide that would plug into the A-99. Mainly, have you ever known of any long-term static issues if you DO 'add on' a segment of cabling, rather than just keeping with one cable? Is it possible to add like 10' and still keep a good clean signal, or, is that connection going to add any noise?

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So, Yes, it's OK to add to a cable. There is a bit of loss in those connections though. Each connection is supposed to rob some of the transmitted energy. That said, with the cost of wire these days, I'd go with it and see if there is any improvement with the new amount of height.

  • @waynedoomad2573
    @waynedoomad2573 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Eric just got my new uniden pro 505 XL cb because watching your channel, any recommendations for a base antenna

  • @thevacuumtubejunky9774
    @thevacuumtubejunky9774 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol....I love it. Would you safely say Your first demonstration with the mag mount defines what the C.B. operator would call as a "Mud duck"?.

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YES! Far to many guys try this, and then get discouraged when they can't hear or talk farther than a mile.

  • @clydeosterhout1221
    @clydeosterhout1221 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a metal roof on my 140 year old house. The metal roof over my front porch is pretty flat. Could I just stick a 102 inch whip into a 5 inch mag mount base? I am currently using the mag mount antenna that my wife bought for her Pinto back in 1978. The SWR is pretty good (1:3) but it is 40+ years old, and it is time to get something newer!

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes! That roof will act as a great ground for that antenna.

  • @Zkpe02
    @Zkpe02 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been using CB radios since 1963 and just the last few years I turned to GMRS radios.

  • @adambatchelder4121
    @adambatchelder4121 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So I was looking at ground plane kits for the 102 inch whips and unless I'm seeing it wrong it looks like they attach to the hot side not the ground so technically not a ground plane right? But they seam to help anyway.

  • @TheColeChannelEagle
    @TheColeChannelEagle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Things must be MUCH cheaper where you live. Ground plane kits for mobile are TRIPLE what you stated where I live. (Tennessee). And MAKING a ground plane kit is much better. The radials on a ground plane kit are way too short.

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  ปีที่แล้ว

      This video was made a few years ago- BEFORE inflation set in. Please keep that in mind

  • @k5wxp22
    @k5wxp22 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love it, man. Great advice. I started when I was about 12 with a magnet mount Radio Shack mobile antenna on a pizza pan and an old car battery. Rig was a Browning "Brownie" 23 channel with volume and squelch. It introduced me into the great world of radio that I am still playing in.

    • @brianmccown6464
      @brianmccown6464 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is what I just started into cb with never thought about a pizza pan tho. But I'm gunna try it !!

  • @davidbrown8118
    @davidbrown8118 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks! I didn’t want to ruin my pierce simson

  • @mrdx777
    @mrdx777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    By the time you pay for a 102 inch whip and that ground plane, you could get a brand new Tram 1498. While it isn't the best base antenna, it will work much better.

  • @francismcclaughry3794
    @francismcclaughry3794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yea they are good. But you can't find them if you got one hang on to it.

  • @KP11520
    @KP11520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had a Shakespeare "Big Stick" back in the day. (1970s) About as good as it gets for a good performing omni-directional base station antenna. Had the base at 30' off the ground! Top was ~48 feet. Wish I still had it!

  • @scootanow85
    @scootanow85 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HI, new to this and have a question. If a base antenna such as Sirio SD 27 Dipole was installed in a balcony (apartment) or even indoors (when it's possible), would it need to be grounded to the ground, or is that only for possible lighting strikes? Thanks

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would need a ground to protect against lightning. That is all.

  • @user-hj5sx6wr5t
    @user-hj5sx6wr5t 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do you have any videos on fiberglass antennas? I have a Barjan 2 ft 500 watt i plan to use on my truck. My radio is a Cobra 75 wx st.

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I do not, but I'll keep an eye out for a couple to test.

  • @mothman-jz8ug
    @mothman-jz8ug 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Many homes in my area are now being built with metal roofs, and nearly all roof replacements are metal. Moreover, metal roof and metal buildings are used for barns, shops, everything imaginable. This metal, BTW is routinely grounded. MY QUESTION: Wouldn't a good mobile antenna mounted on such a roof work as good as (or better than) in a vehicle?

    • @tgc5201
      @tgc5201 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      YES!

  • @woodwose1158
    @woodwose1158 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent video Eric. Looking forward to part 2👍🏻

    • @whipbone
      @whipbone 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      i loved it too

  • @Cynical1800
    @Cynical1800 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wait where is the “I’m coming in loud and clear!” At the beginning?

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      maybe next time

  • @shelby131
    @shelby131 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wouldn't a ground rod 8 ft long be a good ground plane kit, or is the ground plane about more surface area than a rod?

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, A ground and a ground plane are different. Grounds help reduce lightning strikes and noise floors. Ground planes are large areas of metal that reflect the signal back up or out so that it doesn't go down into the ground or up into space instead of right out at a 90 degree angle.

  • @michaelmorgan2880
    @michaelmorgan2880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How can I talk to the freedom truckers from southeast ga? Just picked up a road king classic

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You will find a LOT of freedom loving folks on CB.

  • @cbGamer481
    @cbGamer481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i have a 18 foot antenna and a beam antenna on the same radio is this a good thing??????????????????????????? i can fine tune the beam to get better coverage. can i add two amps on each antenna? so far i only have 1 amp hooked up. what can i do and what should i do???? the 18 footer is so much higher than my beam. the beam only few feet above my roof

    • @cbGamer481
      @cbGamer481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      help me please

  • @TheDudeVT
    @TheDudeVT 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Eric I'm definitely liking this series! Thank you for this series! I do have a work man b100 base antenna hooked up to my house with 100ft of rg8 coaxial cable. It's currently hooked up to a Cobra 142. But I think the antenna sucks. I could have a bigger antenna and plan on getting and Antron 99 but the wife won't let me most likely. The steel whip ideas great. But my advice is to go with a better base station antenna then the b100 I can barely be heard and I have it mounted at the peak of mg rook on a 4ft length of pipe. Hope that's helpful.
    Talk soon
    Josh

  • @CharlesSmith-ye3fv
    @CharlesSmith-ye3fv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s best just get your A Antron all directional don’t worry about it

    • @ghz24
      @ghz24 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never never never. Where is the ground plane or counterpoise?
      It's using the cable as a counterpoise.
      I understand the lack of any competition making one give up and just going with the fiberglass pole.
      I wish I still had the radio shack version of the starduster.
      I'd build my own first even if it's a wire dipole.
      Aren't all verticals omni (all) directional except maybe the "super scanner"?

  • @shelby131
    @shelby131 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    im an electrician. This is way more complex then i anticipated!

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It can be, once you know what to look for, it is not too bad

  • @hillbillynick2000
    @hillbillynick2000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Way cool! Thanks, I was just thinking about this exact subject. I have a 35' tower for my scanner antenna and a 102 whip that I was thinking about running up there. Perfect timing.

  • @silveranimations6196
    @silveranimations6196 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am in the mountains of NC, where are you located?

  • @veggiepowered
    @veggiepowered 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'am Your Newest Subscriber Great Videos. I Didn't See You Put Up The Antron 99 Antenna

  • @MrJohndeere3720
    @MrJohndeere3720 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i have a workman b100 antenna & its been working good 4 my needs but i do plan 2 upgrade 2 a imaxx 2000.

    • @alalan3735
      @alalan3735 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good choice!

  • @swampfox5329
    @swampfox5329 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome video and it's about time that you started this series. I am really looking forward to the next video.

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People have been asking about it forever, but it's just too much to cram into one video.

  • @rickringer
    @rickringer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where did you buy your ground plane kit?

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Copper electronics back in 1999.

  • @theaveragejoestinkeringand4407
    @theaveragejoestinkeringand4407 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Right now I’m running a SIRO new tornado base antenna. It’s pretty similar to an old super penetrator. I still have my Imax on the other side of the house and an Antron on the garage. I’ve been really impressed with this sirio new tornado. I think it may have a slight edge over my IMAX. My recommendation is if you’re going to get into the hobby try and at least find an Antron 99 There’s another antenna called a patriot I believe it’s a half wave that’s a fiberglass base that you can get for around 40 bucks. Just like anything else you have to pay to play. I say go ahead and pony up the money and get an antenna because you will always be able to sell it to another cber. Good used Antanas always sell like hotcakes over the air. I just remember when I was a kid getting into the hobby it was pretty disheartening to hear people that she could not talk to and I got to the point that I almost gave up. Luckily there was a cber that was close to me That gave me some pointers and actually traded with me and I got a bass Antron antenne. If you have to make an antenna I would definitely go with making a wire antenna for temporary purposes but don’t expect much performance from it. Spend your money on a good antenna and some good coax a cheap radio that’s tuned properly will do fine. At least that way you can come into the hobby and make some contacts and start enjoying it right off the bat.

  • @jordanhowell3870
    @jordanhowell3870 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had rg8 up and my swr was just below 2:1 It's 50ft long. I ran rg8x and now 3:1 swr would there be that much loss? Should I put my rg8 back up?

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Something is certainly going on there but it's hard for me to say without being there.

    • @jordanhowell3870
      @jordanhowell3870 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FarpointFarms alrighty so I'm thinking it's a faulty antenna. I bought it from I believe Amazon a few years ago and it had high swr from beginning. It shouldn't be that bad. Then I had accidentally loosened the connection of the stud at the bottom of the antenna and for some reason was then within operating range just below 2:1 and for some with the stud connection tightened it's 3:1. I think there's a short in the antenna and that they might have forgot the silicon washer at the top of the stud but unfortunately I can't take it apart and see if it's correct inside so essentially my antenna is no good is what I come up with. Cause I've tried a couple different coax and I am pretty sure I have tried a different antenna and swr is so it sucks cause I spent 100 on the antenna I added a ground plane kit and it didn't help so I guess I got a ground plane kit for my next antenna that I get. Thanxx for the help farpoint. And quick response love your channel I will get it figured out eventually.

  • @tedneitzel
    @tedneitzel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That's strange my LMR 400 is the most limber coax I've ever used. Much more than 213.

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LMR is solid copper, RG213 is tiny wound copper wire. It should be much easier to work with RG213.

    • @tedneitzel
      @tedneitzel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FarpointFarms it's solid copper but easier to work with than the 213 I had. 213 is a bit more stiff. If you had your hands on some 400 you would be really surprised like I was! It's got one of the lowest loss out there good stuff!

  • @ronfinkbonner14
    @ronfinkbonner14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ya first one I hooked to the house I didn't ground so I was on t.v & radio

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  ปีที่แล้ว

      The ground is important- Although being on TV and Radio does sound appealing

  • @charliebeck1448
    @charliebeck1448 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How would metal roofing work out for a ground plane if u were using a mobile antenna

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That works! I did it for years when I lived in a older metal sided and roofed Mobile Home.

  • @poppasmurf63
    @poppasmurf63 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone else have trouble with the Antron shorting out when it has rained?

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just noticed my Max2000 is starting to do this in heavy rains.

  • @gustavoernesto3145
    @gustavoernesto3145 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remember that ... when you use A METALLIC MAST, THIS IS ALSO ANTENNA (reins of supports, etc)
    ... and the coaxial itself if it does not have wave traps😟 (traps are useless, if the coaxial
    is next to the mast) .
    If you do not include the MASTS, SUPPORTS, ground, etc, in the designs of antennas by PC,
    there is no use "the fantastic studies of antennas By PC" 👍

  • @John336NLT
    @John336NLT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    102 whips are $50-$100 these days

    • @ghz24
      @ghz24 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know outrageous I was going to use 6 of them to make 3 dipoles to remake a super scanner but not at that price.

  • @GG-vx7gi
    @GG-vx7gi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video.
    Where do you get the ground plane kit? Looking to use a 102" whip as a temp 10 meter base antenna until I get my general license.
    Hoping to use on CB, and 10m as my hf radio has an internal tuner. Powered up my old Realistic Navajo base from 30+ years of hibernation and hoping get on air with it again.

  • @johne.lewisiv1177
    @johne.lewisiv1177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been on radio since I was 16 and now I am 53, everything you were saying was saying was true as I
    have set up up radios stations too. Thanks for the update.

  • @Equiluxe1
    @Equiluxe1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Best CB antena that I ever had was a military surplus one cut down for 11 meters.

    • @randyrichards5647
      @randyrichards5647 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok where do you find stuff like this? I've been looking military surplus radio stuff and not finding anything.

    • @Equiluxe1
      @Equiluxe1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@randyrichards5647 I got mine at a military surplus auction, came along with a base for bolting to a vehicle and a whole pallet of other bits most of which I sold on.

  • @dougharker9913
    @dougharker9913 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    UNCLEDOUG BEEN TALKING C B FOR 45 YEARS + !!!!!! / AND SIDE BAND !!!! WEN'T TO THE FIRST CB FEST ON THE EAST COAST ON BEECH MT N.C. IN 1973 STILL TALK ALL TIME !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @HerbWalker
    @HerbWalker 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Buddy says, Hey Herb, Lets cut the top section of your A99 off and put your extra 102" steel whip on the top . Do you think it would work?
    I said it would probably change the band width BUT
    it would also be a very good LIGHTENING ROD!!! LOL
    (Leaning over at about 30 degrees. )Hehehehehhee
    Theres a man a mile or so from me. He has about a 30' base pole , the end mounting bracket for an Antron 99 and about 3 INCHES OF BURNED fiber glass and thats ALL> LOL
    He got hit in a Lightening storm I think...., burned that puppy down to a NUMB.
    I HOPE his radios were disconnected. Its been that way for a few years now ...

  • @Mikey196601
    @Mikey196601 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the 102” whip antenna and a mast and the bracket to secure the mast to the side of my garage, where do I buy the exact ground plane kit model and something to mount the antenna to the mast

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are on eBay right now. I can't post a link, but search for it and they pop up.

    • @Mikey196601
      @Mikey196601 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FarpointFarms sorry, two more questions, does this ground plane attach to the mast or does the antenna screw into it, second how long does each plane have to be or does that matter

  • @kevinwhitted2147
    @kevinwhitted2147 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are absolutely wrong about the mobile antenna I have a Wilson 5000 sitting up on my patio roof and I talked all over the world

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  ปีที่แล้ว

      That doesn't make it right my friend. The SWR on that antenna is so off it's cooking your finals every time you key down.

    • @kevinwhitted2147
      @kevinwhitted2147 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FarpointFarms well according to my antenna analyzer the swrs are 1.2 to 1

  • @arconeagain
    @arconeagain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good job Eric, I was hoping you were going on the quarter wave route. It's also worth mentioning that if they have the space, quarter wavelength wires dropped away as the ground plane will much improve the performance. It's all about efficiency, you are trying to minimise ground losses. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a quarter wave by the way, it is by no means a lesser antenna than other end fed monopoles. It can out perform them because of take off angle and efficiency based on the fact that there is no matching network. I would advise to use a decent ferrite choke on these antennas though. And phasing yes! People don't realise the capabilities of phasing with vertical polarisation, especially it you are concentrating on one, two or even four directions.

  • @terryschwartz6437
    @terryschwartz6437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I use a magnetic Wilson 1000 as a base antenna on my house which has a steel roof. I would assume my steel roof would be the ground plane.

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes that will work. I had that on my older mobile home with a tin roof and it worked great.

    • @terryschwartz6437
      @terryschwartz6437 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much for replying. We are about due for a cigar review!,

  • @jakemichael8586
    @jakemichael8586 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my first base antenna was a 102 whip a mirror mount and a steel pipe as a ground plane. used rg 58 coax as feed line! next I made a inverted v dipole as i was more interested in dx and not the local talk. made the dipole 5/2 wave thats right 5x 1/2 wave or 86.6 ft. dipoles on the odd 1/2 wave harmonics have gain above a stranded dipoles. feed point is around 100-200 ohm. used 75 ohm rg6 tv coax as i got a free 300 feet from the cable tv co cut it to a odd 1/4 wave to lower the impedance to around 50 ohms worked vary good worked a lot of dx. the antenna had reception in all directions do to having a lot of lobes like a flower. used aluminum electric fence wire as a antenna wire. rg 11 has low loss that is the same or better than LMR 400! if one uses even 1/2 wave pieces one will get a low swr. do sum research the 75 ohm rg11 can be used for ham/CB use. any way the point i am making is you can get on the air cheap. i never had the money for pre made antennas and coax so i read the arrl hand book and figured out that 75 ohm cable will work if it is the right length.

  • @MaddConnekRecordz
    @MaddConnekRecordz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found this old cb that works I was wondering whether I could use a regular tv uhf vhf outdoor antenna to use with the cb provided I change the connector.

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, you must use a antenna that is made for CB to be able to transmit without damaging the radio.

    • @MaddConnekRecordz
      @MaddConnekRecordz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FarpointFarms ok thanks, was just curious.

  • @WhiteCavendish
    @WhiteCavendish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question: would it work to take a sheet of metal, like say for example a big cookie pan, drill a hole in the center and screw the base of your antenna through that in order to make an ultra cheap DIY ground plane?

  • @mitchellsparks5194
    @mitchellsparks5194 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great channel keep the vidieos coming 73 kg4eab

  • @johnwheeler9088
    @johnwheeler9088 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What would be the length of coax needed for the 102 in steel wip att good swr? Thanks for your info on this.

    • @johnwheeler9088
      @johnwheeler9088 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry this is going to be for a bace att.

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      18 feet is perfect, 50 works pretty good too!

    • @johnwheeler9088
      @johnwheeler9088 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FarpointFarms Thank you for the information have a great 4th

  • @hatchetjackphillips
    @hatchetjackphillips 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A buddy of mine looked into using a 102” steel whip for his camper on hunting and fishing trips. after he figured what it would cost to set one up, it was cheaper to buy a A99. It takes about 45 min to setup. The range should be outstanding on the ridge where we camp during hunting season.

  • @saltyrebel2037
    @saltyrebel2037 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Workman b-100 is JUNK! PURE JUNK! Nowadays you can buy a solarcon a-99 w/ ground plane kit for $130.00. Run a ground wire to the mount, get you 44 feet of lmr400 coax and get to talking. The antenna is 90% of any set-up... don't skimp on it. cut back elsewhere if you're short of cash. Just my way of seeing it.

  • @jesseobrien5864
    @jesseobrien5864 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have a video on how to setup to 102inch steel whip APT antenna

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  ปีที่แล้ว

      On a car? Yes, As A base? No. Sorry!

    • @jesseobrien5864
      @jesseobrien5864 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FarpointFarms where can I buy the ground plane kit. Looked everywhere

  • @izzydizzy1115
    @izzydizzy1115 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I use a No Ground Plane CB antenna (LGXM2 - Firestik Firefly NGP No Ground Plane CB Antenna Kit) at my home? I want to mount a CB antenna outside my bedroom window. Anybody?

  • @jcmo69
    @jcmo69 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this is from 2018 (which is not that long ago for me) but I cannot find a ground plane kit that isn't like sketchy and $50 plus shipping. That is like $20 more than a Tram 1499 no ground plane antenna and the 100' of RG8X I got off Amazon. It looks short too, most places say you need 4 or more 102" lengths of wire to create a ground plane. Any suggestions?

  • @calvinlong1265
    @calvinlong1265 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! One question though, I've got the Farpoint Farms theme song stuck in my head . LOL! I'm cutting my grass and singing "there's always something that needs a little fixin' at Farpoint Farms", and it's driving my wife crazy 🤣 Any tips?

  • @FriedShrimpPoBoy
    @FriedShrimpPoBoy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Wilson 2000 on a factory mount on the back of my Peterbilt sleeper cab with factory run coax. I want to replace my cobra 29 with a SSB radio. How good of an antenna is that working with the factory coax. Is the Wilson 5000 better? Or another antenna? The coax looks like RG-8x.

  • @hamandcheese25
    @hamandcheese25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been watching quite a few of these videos after picking up a Uniden 980SSB for the ham shack. A very simple easy cheap antenna nobody talks about is a dipole. We use them in amateur radio and work 1000’s of miles on 10w.

  • @edpetrovski6640
    @edpetrovski6640 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Antenna manufacturers for CB quote laughable gain figures. A dipole antenna is used as reference for real gain figures...If you see an antenna mfgr claim 20 db (decibels) gain he's claiming that his antenna will increase your transmitted and receive ability by 20 db over a dipole. That increases your effective radiated power from 4 watts to about 300 watts....NOT. An antenna that would really do that at 27 MHz would be huge....ten or more elements. Mobile antennas that are short....suck. A half wavelength antenna at CB frequencies is about 17 feet long. A quarter wave is half that....or about 8.5 feet. Most quarter wave CB whip antennas are about 102 to 108 inches....or about 8.5 feet to 9 feet long. To believe that a short antenna...say with a 3 ft. piece of stainless sticking out of a "base loaded" antenna is going to work anywhere near as well as even a quarter wave is just silly. Want a cheap antenna for your base station? Get a piece of #14 wire...insulated or not....about 18 feet long. Cut it in half. Put an insulator...buy one or make one...in the middle.....run a quality brand of big coax (RG-213 will do fine), or if it's a short run...say under 50 ft.....use RG-58 (skinnier) and solder the center conductor to one wire...and the braid to the other. Put another insulator on each end of the two wires...and haul it up...vertically...into the tallest tree you can find. Run the coax cable out at a right angle to the insulator in the center for as far as you can. Put a weight on the bottom...or tie it off to something. Cheap and dirty....and it works.

  • @shannonbenson8921
    @shannonbenson8921 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Subscribed.

  • @spectrexiii5529
    @spectrexiii5529 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had strange anomalies when trying to set up my first base using Antron 99 and even Maxx 2000. The closest local 10 miles away said I'd come in, but would come in weak. I then noticed SWR would shoot up during times of the day consistently. I assumed that was due to moisture or temperature changes. For instance, at night it would shoot up. Or, if I tune the antenna at night, during the day it would shoot up. Needless to say I was annoyed and never figured it out lol

  • @mitchdenner9743
    @mitchdenner9743 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Back in the day we all ran mobile base stations. A cobra148gtl, some rg8u leading up to a big stick, or super big stick strapped to the chimney. Tripp lite 3 0r 5 amp 12 v power supply and either a 575m6 power mike or a d104 lollipop. Ahh.. the good ol days.

  • @carlcorteguera6094
    @carlcorteguera6094 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello I'm new to this antenna building and I need the plans to your basic 102 inch with ground plane , what parts do I need please be specific Thanking you in advance and looking forward to your speedy reply...Thank you

  • @bobsbarnworkshop
    @bobsbarnworkshop 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    tech question, if I mounted the 102" whip on the top of my barn (with a steel roof, would that make a good enough ground plane? The steel roof is screwed together, so it should be one solid steel plate

    • @NBWildcat2011
      @NBWildcat2011 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a similar question.
      We are looking to put one in at our shop which is a tall metal building to be able to talk to our drivers on CB.
      I was curious if the metal building would help or hinder. His comment about the metal trailer roof makes me believe it would be beneficial.

    • @bobsbarnworkshop
      @bobsbarnworkshop 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      NBWildcat2011 well I believe that mounting the antenna above the roof with ground plane horizontals radiating out of the base of the antenna insulated from the roof would be best. An SWR meter will help tune and optimize the antenna

  • @JeffZuccMusk
    @JeffZuccMusk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was looking for Antenna BASE jumps. Cya.

  • @rustyshackleford9066
    @rustyshackleford9066 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do cb/ham radios like the AT-6666 require a different antenna? I don't have my ham license. But want to use the Quad 6 as a base station to jump into the cb side. It would be nice to have a dual use antenna. My thinking there, is that, when I do get my ham license, I'm all set to go. Thank you!

  • @9mmARman
    @9mmARman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always look forward to your videos. Another live chat coming soon?

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It will be the last weekend of October if possible. I will let everyone know as I get it figured out.

  • @thekingsservant1104
    @thekingsservant1104 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best cheap ant for mobile use is a 102 steel whip. Best cheap antenna for base use is a wire (MUST BE CUT TO CORRECT LENGTH) antenna as high up as u cant get it, there is more than one configuration of wire antenna so choose which works best for you and where you live. Beams are overpriced and unless you have built them by the book yourself,offten resonate at the wrong frequency killing performance and honestly...a well tuned wire antenna will our perform a beam anyway.....just ask the ham guys about the cheap home built wire antennas that smoke those high end antennas. If you r just looking to talk around town then you could use any cheap antenna but if you want to talk across country on AM or around the world on SSB the a well tuned wire cant be beat and is the best bang for the buck.
    I've been radios for a long time, a collector of old tube radios and more modern radios as well. My friends are big collectors of boat anchors (one friends room filled with Collins recevers and transmiters would blow your mind) from the 40s through the 50s and we've tried it all......and wasted a bunch of money alone the way😂

  • @jamesgeorge1709
    @jamesgeorge1709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    my suggestion for a cheap base station antenna is a vertical 1/4 wave vertical and if you have some tall trees build a 1/4 wave vertical with 4 evenly spaced radials. super cheap. and very effeciant. ki0ad 73

  • @phillipbailey6228
    @phillipbailey6228 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm using a trucker 2000 with a
    Cobra 29 lx and I've been picking up a lot of skip I took my meter off and now my s.w.r. is about point 5 all the way across the board is that a good place to be on the radio?
    Be safe out there in America

  • @terryglenweaver
    @terryglenweaver 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That tram has 0 db gain - that is less than a dipole. None of these type antennas EVER work ok... EVER!
    It won't get out much more than a cross the driveway if inside A house or apartment. Outside not more than A couple blocks away. I cannot believe he is promoting it. A mobile magnet mount inside the house stuck in the fridge will out perform an outside tram. All those type antennas cannot get out across the street.
    What he should harp about is the non-resistance on most antenna packaging of its db gain, either in dbi or dbd listing... So you know what you are buying.

  • @treedance1
    @treedance1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the 102" whip with a coil seperate as an an on with RG8 mini low loss coax running into the back yard.
    I use a President GRANT2 premium cb radio and have gotten miles on the setup mentioned.

  • @Shakez76
    @Shakez76 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man times have changed. Steel whip on ebay is now in the $70 range....on to the diy antenna video!

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ugh... inflation is awful, I am really hoping for some deflation soon

    • @RogerBrenon
      @RogerBrenon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a rippoff joke,

    • @tgc5201
      @tgc5201 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Shipping on 1 102" whip vis UPS, USPS or FedEx is ridiculous! If you can find a dealer who buys a carton (6 or 12) at a time via freight shipping, you might be able to get a good buy on 1.

  • @Dragon1165
    @Dragon1165 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thoughts of a magnetic mount antenna on a metal roof

    • @FarpointFarms
      @FarpointFarms  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, that does work. As long as there is a metal ground plan, these mobile antennas will work.

    • @Dragon1165
      @Dragon1165 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FarpointFarms kinda figured the roof may act as the ground plane, like on a car roof, maybe like a 102 whip magnetic mounted