The Downfall Of Assassin's Creed
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2024
- Now it’s pretty common knowledge by now to see that the Assassin’s Creed franchise has been going on a spiral. And not an upwards one. Assassin's Creed is or was, a massive deal in the gaming world, standing out as a franchise that really did shape the gaming industry. When you think about the gaming scene, a few major franchises grab the spotlight, and whether you like it or not, Assassin's Creed is among them. It’s a franchise that even people who don’t play video games would probably know about. Simply because of how massive the game once was. So, in this video I will go over the rise of the series, all the way to it's downfall and even the future of the franchise.
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0:00 - Intro
1:40 - Back In Time
3:51 - A Legend Was Born
5:57 - Misunderstood
7:55 - A-hoy there!
9:20 - Double Trouble
12:12 - The Big Change
14:18 - A Split Fanbase
19:47 - "Back To It's Roots"
22:14 - So, What's Next?
Assassin's Creed is an open-world, action-adventure, and stealth game franchise published by Ubisoft and developed mainly by its studio Ubisoft Montreal using the game engine Anvil and its more advanced derivatives. Created by Patrice Désilets, Jade Raymond, and Corey May, the Assassin's Creed video game series depicts a fictional millennia-old struggle between the Order of Assassins, who fight for peace and free will, and the Knights Templar, who desire peace through order and control. The series features historical fiction, science fiction, and fictional characters intertwined with real-world historical events and historical figures. In most games, players control a historical Assassin while also playing as an Assassin Initiate or someone caught in the Assassin-Templar conflict in the present-day framing story. Considered a spiritual successor to the Prince of Persia series, Assassin's Creed took inspiration from the novel Alamut by the Slovenian writer Vladimir Bartol, based on the historical Hashashin sect of the medieval Middle East.
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Obviously this video was made before AC Shadows was even announced.
lol
The hidden one has great foresight
more downfalling coming soon
It was funny in retrospect when you quoted the AC3 creative director saying the worst AC settings would be “Ancient Egypt, Japan, and WW2”. That’s 2 out of 3 down (Japan I assume being the “break glass in case of falling revenue” setting due to the demand), and I guarantee you they’ll do WW2 eventually if there’s even a single cent left to be squeezed from this franchise.
Japan is a setting people have been demanding since the ezio trilogy ended. It’s a slam dunk.
I really hate the defenders of this game who constantly say Assassins Creed was always unrealistic. Of course it was, but you'd have to be insane to not notice the radical change in how "realism" was handled and how its handled now.
Defenders are coping consumers.
like obviously i can’t scale one of the tallest buildings in the world in 20 seconds not realistic in the slightest but it’s something that’s fun while not being outerworldy, the game is about the war between the assassins and templars over all of time and they somehow switch it to a character like Layla fighting gods and 50 foot tall monsters as a viking??? like talk about dropping the bag
Yeah that's true, but honestly I like the way it turned, but also, I can understand why some people don't like that
Same here 😊@@emak2999
@@emak2999 Honestly I just find the series to be very silly now. I mean in Valhalla you have a rap battle against Thor.
Killing Desmond killed the modern day story.
I agree. Still remember the massive disappointment I got from playing AC4 and nothing about Desmond or present day timeline was mentioned. Absolute shit AC game. Fun pirate game tho
@@ldope3904 Agreed.
@@ldope3904It did. You would have to play hack computer mini-game to see the Templar claim Desmond body. But I do get your point, it would be better if we find out from the main story.
Forcing me to kill Lucy killed my interest in the modern day story.
@@dahelmang Same
The shift into rpg is one of the most painful changes in video game history. Can you imagine if they just revolutionized the original mechanics and didn’t cut corners. They should have embraced the history aspect more and never done the fantasy stuff. It just takes away the uniqueness of the franchise
Fantasy stuff? So there was never a magical unicorn in assassin creed 2? A magical apple able to create things out of thin air. I guess that isn’t fantasy then.
@@X_xWolfx_X the unicorn in ac 2 is one Easter egg gag type inclusion that isn’t integral to the plot in any way. The Apple obviously isn’t real but it’s more sci fi than fantasy, in the new rpg the fantasy is like huge parts of playing the game and integral to the gameplay. I DONT want to play a Viking fantasy rpg, I wanted ASSASSINS CREED. I wanted to be cloaked Norsemen with a realistic Viking appearance walking around England and Ireland being an assassin. I’m not saying it has to all be historically accurate, because it never was. But they always wanted it to seem grounded in reality and put some thought into history.
@@tristancausa3766 it literally was grounded lmao. There was no fantasy in that. 🤦🏻♂️
@@X_xWolfx_X The heck you mean there was no fantasy? You literally fight mythical creatures in the RPG games which is so stupid.
@@X_xWolfx_X huh? Idk If you played the game because that is not what i saw. There’s a whole dlc for more Norse mythology stuff dude
Greed was the downfall. Also the fact that they couldn’t give us what we wanted, an actual Desmond led game. All that build up for him to touch a stone and die. Such a cop out
I was personally hoping that they would take the Assassins to the modern day in one game to try it out, but yeah that never happened.
Yeah I was really disapointed when they did that and I quite like Assassin's Creed 3.
Yeah it really felt like they were building up to Desmond becoming the new Assassin of the modern age from all the training he inadvertently received.
@@Justmonika6969*we have modern assassin now*
insert "watch dog"
anyone remember watch dog? anyone?
@@hailuong9295there's no leap of faith in Watchdogs.
"Christ Ade, what the hell happened here?"
"Greed"
Frl
"Assassin's Creed"? More like "Developer's Greed"
I wouldn't say "Developer's Greed", but more "Corporate's Greed"@@BLET_55artem55
@@RGisOnlineyh, that's what I meant. Thx for phrasing it properly
Assassin's Greed
It was Odyssey and Origins that brought me into the series, but after playing the games from the beginning, I find it hard to go back to the RPG style. The ease of the older games is what I find enjoyable, you have so much freedom to do what you want because your assassin is so strong, whereas the rpg games feel like playing dark souls bosses at times. Saying this, I am excited for the coming games and I dont think the franchise is ending anytime soon.
For me it’s the opposite. The first AC game I played was Valhalla, so going from the RPG games to the older ones felt like a downgrade. I got used to them, but I prefer more options in how you can play, so the RPGs are better
The RPG aesthetics of the newer games was not needed. I get why they added it but they definitely miss the mark. AC games to me were always about being a badass assassin and having the combat skills to match. Watching the camera pan around as you took out enemies one by one in crazy combat moves was always awesome to watch, especially since as the series evolved the combat animations got more and more complex. With the RPG elements, it's turned into button mashing and a grind which wasn't needed in an AC game.
Honestly the only rpg game that interest me was Origins. I played Origins after going through the Ezio collection, and some of Unity, and loved it. Honestly depending on my mood i see my self going back to multiple games in the series (except Unity because i just found that game a chore to get through). Each of them has strengh and weeknesses with things i love and things i hate, but not enough to not enjoy them or go back to them. I just recently 100% Syndicate for the first time and finished Black Flag, and have now gone back to play more of Origins. I think the only issue is that each game after the Colonial games play pretty different with different control schemes that i have to train my brain to get used to.
@@MiBrCo4177agree. They did not need to put in rpg mechanics with a leveling system. I didn't like them in Unity or Syndicate and despite Origins being one of my favorites i could have done without it. If i want to play an rpg i`ll boot up any of my Kingdom Hearts game or play Tales of Baseria or Alterlier Riza.
Yall want every game to play like dark souls or skyrim🤣🤣
At some point the franchise more or less loss it's identity and went from a secret Assassin organization fighting against the ominous conspiracy organization of The Templars to a generic open-world game where it could be called anything and it wouldn't matter a bit, all because Ubisoft wanted to milk the franchise for every penny even if it meant preventing the series from having a solid conclusion and keeping it in such limbo for profits that it has caused the franchise to become stale and stagnant.
I played everything up to Origins, the RPG system and item level scaling was what lost me. Knowing they went away from the historical and dove head first into the fantastical is sad to me. In total seriousness, I can attribute my good grades in high school history class to the main takeaways of the older games
to me once i saw that you had to be a high enough level to one shot assassinate enemies was the deal breaker
@@bdawg2320 Same. If I can't assassinate people in Assassin's Creed, someone somewhere screwed up
thats exaclty my experience
Origins is really good tho and probably the only modern AC game that doesn't require grinding, plus side quests are all intertwined with the main quests and doing them grants you enough xp to progress with easy.
@112523 If I have to use in game currency to maintain unique gear in order to keep their stats appropriate for my level, I don't want to bother with it. In almost any other RPG, legendary loot is normally something good enough that I can keep using it through to the end of the game, not immediately outclassed by some common item after a couple levels. Plus in older AC games, you just unlocked new gear for your character. None of the Diablo style having to keep track of a dozen different stats. I hate the fact that areas are level gated like an MMO where a trash enemy in one area is trivial to deal with but that same enemy in a different area kills you just by looking at you and is so much of a damage sponge that nothing you do will kill it until you level up half a dozen times. And as I mentioned before, if my hidden blade can't actually assassinate someone in one hit while their guard is down in an Assassin's Creed game, someone has screwed up the game design. If you enjoy the game, cool. But the modern AC game design isn't something I can get behind
Remember when Ubi removed the crossbow from AC1 cause it wasn't historically accurate? Yeah mee too .
I thought they removed it because it made ranged assassinations too easy?
@@dylenwithanethat too
They are still easy in AC1 @@dylenwithane
Y’all acting like the goddamn Apple of Eden doesn’t fckin exist in AC1 😒
@@sgxmp8565 No one is acting like it doesn't exist. It does not compare to valhalla's crazyness because it fit within the story with a clear purpose and explanation behind its existence.
What took my curiosity into Assassin's Creed was Odissey and Valhalla, but I decided to play the old ones first because I was told about the complexity behind the story and didn't want to be completely oblivious of it. Now I can't see myself playing the new ones because of the changes it made. AC to me is this historical epic tale about two forces clashing with each other to decide the future of humankind, in each chapter of the story having a member of those forces embodying its ideology and shaping the path. The magical factor is a secondary element in the story, being more than appears to be and actually the remnants of a previous society, whose downfall is a warning to mankind as a possible future for it.
Black Flag was the peak and end for me. I was already falling off from the series, but Black Flag was amazing and when I didn't get a pirate sequel I was done.
Black Flag made me hate the series. It was no longer an Assassin game. Fuck AC4
@@ldope3904At least it implemented the Assassin's into the story, unlike these newer ones.
@@marioluigi6024even if at the time Edward wasn’t an assassin the game is what led him to join the assassins. Not to mention it still was about assassins vs templars. Unlike now where it’s mostly a single assassin and the templars rarely appear in the story.
The quality really started sinking when the writers tried to add an unnecessary level of depth to already rock solid factors.
Pulling away the mystery of the ancient race. Making Lucy a double agent and killing her. Shoehorning an Abstergo hitman in at the last minute. Introducing a new god object with every title. They all add up and make the overall brand worse.
In my opinion, I think the Ezio trilogy was the peak and I'd really like to see a game mimic the gameplay and style of those games.
I especially love the combat of those games but, I do also give credit to Assassin's Creed Unity because I also love the customization and multiplayer found in that game.
Id personally say the peak was Valhalla or unity
@@adarshsridhar6051 Unity is mid and Valhalla is bad.
@@adarshsridhar6051AC Valhalla is a joke
I agree, the Ezio trilogy was the best but I think it peaked around black flag. I saw the downfall at unity and stopped playing around there.
@@adarshsridhar6051 unity is a good game NOW. You have to remember if you played upom release you can argue it was one of the worst games and a weak story didnt help all the bugs and faulty gameplay
The reason Assassin’s Creed is the way it is now is because the focus has gradually shifted to prioritizing the historical fantasy, as that is more marketable than the Assassin fantasy. It’s greedy, but understandable for a series this big.
I don’t see that approach changing, however there are now plans now to make each game appeal to a specific target audience - due to Valhalla’s failure to unite appeals - which I think is the right way to go with a series like this. The “historical fantasy” games will likely be like Odyssey , while the “assassin fantasy” games will be like Mirage (hopefully with more time and resources put into it).
As for how well that will do for Ubisoft, it’s hard to say. The “historical fantasy” games will likely do well as they’re made for a larger audiences who basically like everything regardless of quality.
On the other hand, the “assassins fantasy” games will likely receive greater criticism from the pessimistic purists of this fanbase.
I prefer the “assassin fantasy” style as well, but I don’t like associating myself with the snobby purists that have been complaining since the end of the Ezio trilogy. Criticism is always good, but pessimism isn’t productive at all.
It’ll be interesting to see the future of this series, and how its fans will impact it…
How are we defining pessimistic?
I'd say it was pessimistic fans that brought about the downfall. Many people complained that AC1 combat was too hard so Ubisoft gutted it and made it boring then made less boring in Brotherhood but also much easier. People complained that parkour was too hard so they 'streamlined' it and made it less engaging with each era.
Those of us who stuck with it and learned the ins and outs of got shortchanged at every point.
I don't want to seem bitter, though maybe I am, I just don't play the games that don't appeal to me
I think there should be a balance. Have combat and a large open world like Origins, parkour more refined with Unity type qnimations but the smoothness and freedom of games like 2-Black Flag. Get rid of the leveling system and allow new skills or tools to open up through the story or through side missions instead. Have one hit kill assassinations like the series have always have. Make combat an optional for some scenarios method of transversal (think Ghost of Tsushima and how you can either stealth through bases or fight). Build up on the social stealth by implementing disquise mechanics like Liberations, giving you even more options on how to approach stealth and the ability to blend into crowds. Have the ability to hide bodies, use human shields, and cool finishers. In other words take mechanics and elements from other games and actually refine them and make them better.
@@Pooky1991As much as I would love a balance, I’m not Ubi is capable of that kind of creatively as they are now. The devs definitely are, but corporate is probably gonna make that difficult.
Making each game for a specific target audience might be the best they can do right now
I'm confused ah by all these comments.
@@RyuLongRHOG why?
The downfall of Assassin's Creed was inevitable. Not only the drastic change in creative direction, but also the milking of the franchise, causing it to suffer from a massive overexposure hurt the franchise in the long run in my opinion. They gave it the Call of Duty treatment, releasing one every single year and with that also went away it's mystique. II being my personal favorite. It was truly a unique IP that became generic. It's like once you played one or two or them, you played all of them and the same feeling came along with the newer ones also. To put things into perspective, Elden Ring is Dark Souls in an open world format, yet it still feels brand new and engaging despite having pretty much the same layout and gameplay mechanics and even with all of the soulslike games available. But that's because FromSoftware took good care of the series and released games only when they needed to, instead of monetizing the series and milking it. Publishers and Developers need the reminder that they can make great games and still be profitable without shoving it down our throats also like they do with a new sports game every year.
Assassin’s Creed will never be good again until they get rid of the RPG essence. The game was never meant to be RPG. It was meant for being stealthy and stopping the Templar order.
The past is the past 🤷
@@jonathanwyatt6572never forget your history
@@jonathanwyatt6572You like soulless, generic Ubisoft games and that's ok.
@@CherryPauper I only liked Origins and enjoyed Odyssey somewhat
@@jonathanwyatt6572it's ok to like crap games. Nothing wrong with that.
To myself always, I've wondered how Assassin's Creed could have been if Ubisoft didn't put out an annual release every year , like what CD Projekt RED DID NOT DO with The Witcher 1 which also released in 2007 and is one of the best games of that year in my opinion. Ubisoft decided to take a more annual approach pumping out an AC game every year, not that was a bad thing as these games were great, but overtime it would start to show, unlike what CD Projekt RED did.
CD Projekt RED took The Witcher 1 and improved it in every way until we got the The Witcher 2 after 4 years of waiting, which was even better. They never detoured from what made the first Witcher game great, unlike what Ubisoft does with their recent titles, because CD Projekt RED knew what made their games great. CD Projekt RED then after another 4 years created probably one of the most detailed and breath taking games of all time...The Witcher 3. THEY TOOK TIME to create what players would have loved, because they KNEW what their fanbase wanted. Ubisoft felt different in the way they treated Assassin's Creed compared to the CD Projekt RED and The Witcher. One took their time, the other didn't.
Now obviously different teams handled different Assassin's Creed games, and so obviously some of them didn't take a year to make, but quite a few years, but CD Projekt RED was one team and knew where they wanted to take the franchise and what their fanbase wanted, unlike what Ubisoft did when they created a border between the fanbase and now there's 2 sides of the fanbase, one likes that and the other likes that. I wonder how the Assassin's Creed franchise could have been if Ubisoft decided not to put an annual release every year and actually took time to create one masterpiece of a game like what CD Projekt RED did with The Witcher franchise. Ubisoft messed up, they separated their own fanbase and now they have to try and care for both like a parent caring for their 2 children, one wants this, while the other wants something else.
( 2008, 2019, 2021 and 2022 was one of the only years Ubisoft did not punch out a new AC game)
2008, 2019, 2021 and 2022, the only years without a new game
Oh yeah I forgot about 2021 and 2022, thanks :)@@emak2999
Witcher 1 was a terrible game.
Unfortunately cd project red seems to be planning to remake the original for modern audiences, hoping they don't ruin it...
Witcher 1 was bad. Vert bad. Look at steam, like 4% of ppl could even stomach it to the end. Also
Cyberpunk???
Ubi have never made abuyhinf that bad. Their biggest crime is repitition.
Ubisoft has to include one specific historical event in AC Codename Red. If I remember correctly the Shinobi once defended their secret village by tying torches to their farm animals and led them down a road. From the distance this looked like an entire army was coming towards the Shinobis enemies which prompted the enemies to flee. In reality the Shinobi was vastly outnumbered and would’ve likely lost the battle that would’ve taken place. I really want to play though that event!
Lmao thats actually kinda funny, would love to play it, but if its the same rpg style game, then i probably wont play it
That doesn't really sound like an event one would play through since it is basically just tying torches to farm animals and leading them down a road.
@@GeorgeMonet better than walking through Rome, carrying a chest and being forced to guess which way to go by listening to the guards saying that you’re taking a weird route. Or that mission in AC 3 when you’re riding from house to house to warn people about the brits.
Here's hoping they overhaul the parkour. Mirage's parkour is lacklustre at best. Using the RPG parkour in a world not designed around it was a terrible idea
@@teneesh3376 hopefully they bring back something similar to the hook blade. The Shinobi used hooks and different tools in order to climb and scale walls, so the hook blade would fit this era.
They missed the chance of creating modern Assassin like Desmond... That would be sick af. Imagine being the cooler Agent 47
Their focus groups told them that modern day was “boring” and hard to follow; and that those players wanted more historic content. It was a poor decision imho; Desmond’s arc was the glue holding the series together and they should have moved him to a modern day assassin game.
@@BENR8108it was canned because if they created a modern Desmond game that resolved the assassin Templar conflict hey would effectively end the series and Ubisoft’s wallets really didn’t like the sound of that.
If they had built upon unity we would have got the best assassin's creed game by now, Unity shows the trailer but we never saw it reach the full potential!
For someone that just returned to the franchise after I felt that Origins was to disconnected with what came before I was kind of happy with the simplicity of Assassin's Creed Mirage.
Maybe not perfect but It's enough to feel like a decent game for me.
Same feeling about mirage
What? Origins and odyssey was good af
@@picklezchannel394Odyssey isn't an Assassin's Creed game. There's not even really an element of Assassin's to it.
@@marioluigi6024 if you make a build you can assassinate everyone with the cost of other stats being low. People tend to go for high Bows, or high attacks, or balanced that they never used the assassin method. People was too thirsty to finish the game and not take time on a big rpg map to assassinate people but who fault is that? They also have to look at a business point of view. If we sell a basic AC game people go buy other games for the big maps. Then every year as inflation increase they lose money cause kids rather buy a big open world rpg then a classic AC.
@@picklezchannel394You can have the big open world without compromising the assassin and stealth mechanics of the franchise.
In my opinion they need to find the middle ground in combat between the RPG style and traditional style games.
I’d like to see combat based off countering specific moves/enemy types rather than a leveling system. Fighting super spongy enemies isn’t fun. Make it more tactical.
The same goes for stealth. Incentivize stealth play. One hit assassinations, expand the toolbox, etc.
They should´ve droped the Animus idea after the Desmond Story cuz it makes no sense now
Thanks for sharing
it's a very dedicated and fair summary of the entire franchise from the beginning up to this point in time!
I'm looking forward to AC Red, but with medial expectations
I never could figure out why I didn't really like the newer Assassin's Creed games, but now I do. It was the rpg elements. I subconsciously preferred the simpler combat elements of the original titles.
I enjoyed mirage for a number of reasons one of them being the fact they scaled back on size so it made it easier to get around, I also enjoyed using the tools and the fact that the RPG mechanics were simplified and I had a lot of fun finding stuff the stealth was cool abd parkour to
i've played up to AC III, that being five games in total. love them all....including the first one. i have nothing bad to say about any of them, they all have their own traits. everybody probably dont realise they like ezio because he plays out like some movie...loads of action, cheeky banter and gets the girl...that being quite predictable and typical expectations from a hollywood based society. but i quite like the solitary and stoic persona's that are Altair and Connor....this sits better with me as what you'd expect from a character whose primary role is to be an assassin.
im so tired of the rpg system
I want them to take a second crack at unity's parkour.
It was a great foundation and with recent mod releases patching it....
shouldn't have has been gutted and receded to AC1 parkour. Who knows how great it would've been by now.
Also if Red has prone movement and other heighten stealth mechanics,
perfect time to bring it back
Yeah I've always felt that after Assassin's Creed 3 they've milked the series for everything they could. Having a modern day story that actually played parallel to the assassin storyline was great. Something tells me they could do a soft reboot of AC1 and have its story run parallel to the original AC1, bring Desmond back, and do a FF7r Aerith situation. Tie all of the series together with Desmond and have him come back and start the series from there with a modern-day story.
The downfall came when they turned it from a stealth game into an RPG with levelling.
I hate having to grind levels to assassinate someone.
My childhood mind seeing Connor was, WOAH I GET TO PLAY EZIOS KID IN THE FOREST IMA CLIMB MOUNTAINS
I wouldn't say I'm hyped for Code:Hex, but I'm at least very interested in a game taking place in the witch hunt peak
That's really weird. Because before the RPGs, people constantly complained that the series was stale. So what is it? Were the games before the rpgs the all-amazing godsend people claim it is? Or is it just blind nostalgia?
For those who complain, I've always loved the series and don't hate any AC game
It is nostalgia that blinds most ppl and some will argue that it's not
I loved odyssey and unity nothing is wrong with them+ no one said odyssey is sh#t but games like black flag are better
They should’ve kept improving the gameplay formula after revelations
@@wissgamer4818 There are people that call Odyssey shit though, you see them a lot on comments sections of AC related videos
@@jonasjojofalco9896 ac 3 and later games gameplay is really good too
This feels one of your great video. I like it❤
I played Valhalla (My First AC game) for about 5 hours and stopped playing for whatever reason. 2 years later I picked it back up and was completely obsessed with it playing for many hours at a time whenever I could. Have since finished the game, finished the Ireland and Frankia DLC and collected all the mysteries, wealth and artifacts on every map.
Still need to finish the Havi DLC quests but I have also since moved onto AC Odyssey which again I'm also really loving. I plan on playing all the games but as of now I feel like I won't enjoy the originals as much as the games I'm playing now
I always loved AC games and will. The old style was unique and beautiful. I still play old games and I hailed AC 2 and Brotherhood are the best Assassin's Creed games ever made. I love Black flag and others.
When it comes to modern games RPG trilogy, I like Ac Origins and others. As a game AC Odyssey and Valhalla are best. But when it about Assassin's Creed that trilogy isn't great like old games. I still play AC Odyssey and it helps me a lot to my Greek and Roman Civilization studies. AC Valhalla is my favorite of the trilogy as a game and I know it's a hot take. I love mythology about it. I read all Edda and Legends to understand whole Norse mythology. I think it explains about Norse mythology more than new GOW (hot take). I love last trilogy as games and I still play them. I played all the side contents of the AC valhalla.
BUT AS A AC GAME, I think those are a failure than a success. They don't meet with AC old games They need to bring back old style. I think they should have make last trilogy especially Odyssey and Valhalla as a different titles. YES they made Immortals Fenyx Rising about Greek mythology and I loved it. ( Yes last Trilogy mentioned about before Adam and Eve and story about ISU. I loved it though)
Still I have a good hope for AC games. I'm still waiting for new AC games. I think japan setting would make a whole difference in this franchise. Also they need to fix modern day story line again. I always loved modern day story line and Desmond Miles. They need to fix that quickly.
Assassin's creed creed is the my favorite video games franchise and I love it more than any games. I'm waiting for new games ❤
I can see what you mean about them i think if they removed assassins' creed form them and made them there own kind of setting would of been better then focus more of the assassins' story like the older games would of had a better outcome for assassins creed fans.
I loved Valhalla for the setting of England, but jeez just soo many collectables and key hunting just sucked some of the joy from it for me. Really a lock pick skill would have been a great addition 😅. The Ezio trilogy will always be my fave, then black flag. Would be nice to get a solid protagonist for a couple of games at least.
I just reinstalled and began session play again which is the only way to approach this beast. Decided to clear any collectibles left over in each territory - one at a time and log out after one was cleared. I'll eventually get this game finished and then a NG+ for just story like the others.
The first, the ezio trilogy, black flag, and even rogue is what I like. I'll even say 3 is also within the same boat. And that is literally where I stopped playing Assassin's Creed.
Yea Valhalla was great for the setting as got my city Lincoln in the game and to see some small parts of that are there in real life was great but that is all the game had going for it. And god the collectables were boring as hell so many i have just over 250 hours playing it to get all achievements and i cant for the life of me even remember what the story was about as it took so long to finish it. The older games was more about the story not the gameplay and world setting that is what i think it has lost it more about the open world making it bigger and bigger while making the story of it short but padded out by RPG level locking so you have to do so many side quest to even play the story killed it for me.
@@giggity4670 If you played for 250 hours, you at least liked the game, you can't tell me you would play a game you don't like for that long, makes no sense whatsoever.
After they released origins, I couldn’t complete one. It’s just not the same anymore 😔 borderline depressing
I started with AC2 and stopped playing after 3. I think the yearly releases just gave me burnout, even though I enjoyed each of those 4 games.
What really stopped me from joining again was seeing preview footage of Unity. One look at its minimap filled with so many icons just gave me anxiety and pushed me away from playing the franchise since
Not that I don't keep up with current events in the series, like watching this and other AC focused channels, as well as read the webtoon comic Forgotten Temple
Ezio and Altair: So the apple of eden and other related object are not the only supernatural thing that happen to this world?
Bayek, Kassandra and Eivor: Yep. Theres Gods and Immortality. And also Basim got teleportation ability.
Every Assassins using only gadgets and their skills: We quit
I gave up the franchise when I got Valhalla. It was an awful experience not just from content but also the lack of polish it had. I played Mirage to close my time with the franchise, but after it I have no intention to return. It's not the AC that I remember anymore or enjoyed
Valhalla was just their cheap attempt to steal some of that God of War hype and cash in on it
Agreed. Valhalla imo is the worst game of the series and I've been playing since AC1 back in 2007
Mirage’s main story was a bit short for my taste. I like to be more emerged in the main story and history. I really hope we see a full AC game in either the Roman or Mongol empire. Sure origins touched on the Roman’s a bit but it could be explored way more.
Do you have idea to rank all soundtracks from assassin's creed?
The earlier games showcased historical realism with the games with some mystical elements (good ol' apple of eden). The newer games show a new more powerful artifact each time. With all the new shit there is now the apple of eden seems kind of redundant.
Watch a Templar roll in with the Howitzer of Eden
Many of the flaws you mentioned for Mirage are also present in ac black flag like copy pasted world and buildings and also the simple combat
Just what is the point of AC without the modern day?
No, I don't want to play a modern day story through Infinity. I want to play a real Assassin's Creed game with a real connection between past and present. Without the modern day, the historic time periods just become their own separate thing. Oh the protagonists are all assassins? Who cares? Chances are they'll be more representative of [insert historic profession here]. Codename Red looks like it's going to make you a Ninja. Will it matter if you're an Assassin? No, it's the Ninja game.
So what's the point anymore without the modern day? What connects a story here?
The problem with Ubisoft is that they don’t innovate, they are afraid to make experiments. If they made a right choice, they will stick to that until the players complain too much.
Its ok if they are afraid to making experiments. Not the best choice it sure is keeping them from getting even more hate
Why do we always need to “innovate” all the time. Is it wrong for some people to want the same thing they got before?
The Templars (Ubisoft) won
18:27 "...Game that refuses to end, and outstays its welcome."
This is so true for all the newer RPG Assassin's Creed games. I liked that they put an in-game timer next to your save game, so you know how long you spent actively playing (time spent paused or in menus/maps/cutscenes didn't count).
In AC Valhalla, I had just started the Ledecestire Arc (with Sigurd and the Ragnarrson brothers Ubba and Ivarr), which is barely after you first arrive in England, and was just exploring the map because I hate hidden/foggy maps. Just reaching and then synchonisng all the viewpoints alone took me over the 20-hour mark.
By the time I had finished the Brewing Storm quest (which is barely over a third of the game) I was already well above the 60-hour mark. Yes, I had completed all the legendary hunts and found almost all the books of knowledge and reached power level 250, but it shocked me how much time I had wasted.
That's more time than it had taken me to complete and perfect the Witcher 3, or Final Fantasy XII (my favourite FF), or all 3 Dishonoured games, or all 3 of the new rebooted Tomb Raider games etc.
60 hours is a very, very long time, especially when you consider it didn't count all the time I spent in menus while I looked up the best gear online, or the best dialogue choices etc.
It's not like the game was so interesting that I just lost myself in it and lost track of time (although it was that interesting in the beginning and while I was exploring England) but more so that the missions were boring and repetitive.
It's literally: pledge to a county, ride all the way there and complete variations of the same basic quest (kill someone, burn some village or free some prisoners). Then at the end of each arc, there's a climax where you assault a fortress. Then you return home and report to Randvi, then rinse and repeat.
On top of that, the landscape itself was just swamps and thatch cottages, with the same, basic churches and forts here and there. There's no use making such a massive map when 99% of it looks the same and is just wasted open land.
No one ever complained that the older games, which actually had proper parkour-friendly cities, ever felt small or cramped. Rather, they were lovingly crafted and with immaculate attention to detail and pointed out all the historical landmarks and actually familiarised you so much with the city that you could mostly navigate it without ever needing to open the map or fast travel. There, freerunning was actually a core part of the gameplay and was fun and badass to do.
Now you the only time you explore the map is to find the viewpoints, then you always fast travel, unless you want to just waste hours riding on your horse through nowhere.
More/Bigger isn't always better.
The same goes for the nonsense collectibles etc that Ubisoft scatters around the map to make it feel full. Now it's not that the old games didn't have this. Ubisoft is known for this. Even the older Far Cry games were just stuffed chock-full of this, but the newer AC games just take it to the next-level, what with their mysteries, artifacts, wealth etc. The gargantuan size of the maps just makes everything so much worse.
The whole being an assassin in historic times and meeting real historical figures was why i loved these games so muc back in the day
They never should have made odyssey and valhalla
Should have never been canon
Odyssey is objectively one of the best. Valhalla and Mirage shouldn't exist.
@Codemeister1105 as it's own game sure but as an AC game noooope...odyssey should've never exist as an Ac game
@@Codemeister1105if it was called “random fantasy rpg in Ancient Greece “ for sure, but that’s not assassin creed.
Like Amazon rings of power and real Tolkien world
@@feldmarescialloduda I understand and have practically just given up all care I had about the entire IP, now that I've seen Assassin's Creed Shadows trailer... "Play as a black man in the Shogun period Nippon"
the story is main selling point for ac franchise, it started to be confusing for a lot of people after black flag thats why people are going back to ac4 as the last bestac game also they are forcing isu and myths to be real i think we liked old ac games bcz of mystery but this rn is just give them pegasus or a wolf to ride is all good
ACII holds such a special place in my heart man because it was the first AC I actually ever played, I’m so happy I was able to experience it as kid because ezio auditore will be one of my ALL TIME FAVORITE protagonists EVER!!! you quite literally see him from the moment of he’s born to when he’s an old master assassin, absolutely amazing
I’m an oldschool assassins Creed fan when the first game came out, I was probably about 11 years old my first real introduction of it was watching my cousins run around the rooftops of Florence in assassin‘s Creed two and I remember thinking wow..! that looks awesome. so I picked myself up a copy and even went back to finish playing assassins Creed 1. By then I was a fully fledged fan and couldn’t wait for the next game instalment.. I’m joking around with my cousin saying do you reckon the next ones after Ezio could be based in London around the Victorian times? And it happened… and that’s when I started having problems with this franchise as it came to predictable and the new locations and time periods were nothing more than a backdrop for you to run around stabbing people in. Since then, I’ve always kept an eye on the franchise hoping and waiting to see if I can find a way to bringing all the games together like they used to with One big cohesive story Like there was a point to it all.
origins def an assassin cress game literally the birth of the ASSASSINS and the early templars (order of ancients oddysey tho yea nah
I just started playing Ac rogue like a week ago and I'm just gonna say that is awesome in every form
It would be great if they did a sort of level based assassins creed where you played different assassins throughout history each in their own small city type environment.
Unity had the best free running and felt the most "assassins creed" out of all the games.
a new AC game, back to its roots, on the Unity engine with a better story is what the fans really want. This would save AC.
Mirge was the biggest scam Ubisoft ever sold to their community. labelling it as "back to the roots" was a shameful marketing scheme when all the game was, was a slightly better version of the 2 games that came before it.
Ac origins is actually an "ASSASSIN'S creed" game ....prove me wrong
I definitely consider it the last AC game before Mirage. Sure it was different, but fundamentally it felt like a natural evolution of Assassin’s Creed.
On the other hand, Odyssey and Valhalla felt like they wanted to make a sister IP, but we’re afraid to commit to it.
The game litterary named as assassin creed origins. so there nothing to prove.
@@RG-xl7qlthose two games felt like they just slapped assassins creed on it to boost sales.
One thing that I never understood are the people saying "in AC1 they removed the crossbow for historical accuracy"
No bro, they removed that cause it was too OP, crossbows were historically accurate in that time
They kinda disappeared in Europe after the Romans and didn't become regular equipment in armies again til the 1100's, and there's not many signs they were used in the middle east until the Ottomans took over Anatolia iirc
I am not your bro, normie
No wonder this is the same people who listen to ugly "music", you just have bad taste "bro"
Because everything looked the same i got a phobia of climbing and having to look at the animations again and again... no variation, no different routes and techbiques, just 1 animation for 100 diffetent ways to climb or jump over an edge.
You should do a video of one thing you would change from every AC game. Like story or gameplay wise. Maybe even change up the characters basically whatever you think would had made those games better.
I don't think its fair to use the term 'downfall'. Odyssey was one of the top selling AC titles ever, with many buying Valhalla off the strengths of that game. Granted, most were also disappointed by Valhalla's reductions in the RPG elements, combat, and side quests; aspects that were largely moved more inline with the OldCreed style, but ultimately satisfying neither group.
Had Ubi continued making OldCreed style games, as that segment of the fanbase wants, the AC series would have been on indefinite hiatus after Syndicate. These fans forget how repetitive, derivative, and uninspired the OldCreed games became after Black Flag. The change the RPG style format was essential to inject lifeblood into the series and move it forward. With regards to realism, if you're going to make large open world games set in ancient Egypt, Greece, and medieval England and you don't lean into the rich mythologies of these cultures, you're doing them a disservice.
While I maintain that Ubi should lean into the RPG aspects, with better more indepth side content, I do feel they missed an opportunity to really reset the continuity with Origins and build it out in a consistent manner, vs their haphazard reliance on fan wikis. Also that they're over saturating the AC franchise. There's a ton of AC titles in the release, pipeline, with a lot of investment going into the VR and Live Service entries, titles that nobody asked for or wanted.
I think they should lean towards the RPG style of gameplay with larger scale settings like Egypt, Greece, Japan and whatnot, while games based off settings like Paris, London, other industrial cities should be the old style. That way they can make both types of fans happy instead of making a game that strips the RPG elements in favor of classic features that aren't even fleshed out properly like Valhalla. This is exactly what happened with the Saints Row Reboot as well, though I suppose the series can be considered dead by now sadly
If someone thought the old style games were bad, then they were never that big of a fan to begin with. And the rpgs are a devolution of what came before. They’re just generic and only care about the beautiful settings rather than anything else. Almost everything that made ac unique was watered down in those games.
@@yodaddyrc1220 I think there's many AC fans that have thick rose colored glasses on regarding the OldCreed games. In terms of gameplay, AC Unity is utterly unplayable, with AC2 very nearly unplayable. They constantly glitch. They're loaded with jank. Parkour sequences are filled with little stalls and hitches that wreak havoc on the frustratingly bad chase sequences.
Compare to Odyssey, where the gameplay always works, never glitches, you're (almost) never restricted on climbing, combat is actually engaging, the skill tree makes sense while allowing the player to play their style.
The only metric that one could accurately call downgraded would be the main story. And how much of that is simply perception? Does Odyssey's story come off as boring because its actually boring? Or is it because its stretch out between long sections of (usually good) side quests? I thought Valhalla's main story was pretty good . . . but since Valhalla has no side quests, you're able to go directly from one main sequence to the next, without anything inbetween to dilute or distract you. Does that make Valhalla's story better, or simply structured better?
Crafting an main story for an open world game while still trying to maintain a sandbox and appearance of a living world is a notoriously difficult task to pull off. It wasn't until Witcher 3 that developers seemed to crack the code.
@@Bateluer Oh so you’re one of those fools who says “hUR Der yoU wEarINg yoUr NERstALGia gERRgles”. Many people in the gaming community have caught on to how dumb and overused that argument has become and people like you just say it so u can invalidate someones opinion that you disagree with. But ultimately, I just can’t take u seriously cuz of that.
So let me tell u this. It’s an opinion to think that something old is “unplayable” and something new is better. Most of what you said is opinion based like odyssey’s side quests being “good” and stuff like that. Let’s not forget that odyssey also has damage sponge enemies and has one of the most simplified parkour systems in the franchises entire history with absolutely no depth or expression unlike the classic games. And the ability to climb anything takes away all thought about how to ascend a building unlike older games where the player was engaged in actually having to find pieces of geometry on buildings.
Let’s also not forget that TH-camrs have made great videos on how to effectively use Ac2’s gameplay, yet many people like you either have never seen it or choose to dismiss it. You’re basically acting like your opinion is correct and others aren’t. And what you said about “the franchise needing to evolve and it needs to change and the old formula is outdated” is really idiotic considering that the franchise has lost so much of what made it unique and it’s obvious that Ubisoft diluted it into a generic rpg in order to appeal to masses, which is a problem with AAA gaming as a whole.
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"But ultimately, I just can’t take u seriously cuz of that."
Guess I touched a nerve. Thats OK, but the facts won't change.
"So let me tell u this. It’s an opinion to think that something old is “unplayable” and something new is better."
It has nothing to do with them being simply old. It has to do with them simply being unplayable. There's more jank in Unity than in launch Cyberpunk 2077, and thats before you get into the low 20fps frame rate and blurry resolution. These are not issues you encounter in Origins/Odyssey/Valhalla.
"Most of what you said is opinion based like odyssey’s side quests being “good” and stuff like that."
Thats not opinion. Its objective fact, simply because Odyssey actually has them while the OldCreed games do not. The OldCreed games have filler activities, not side quests.
"Let’s not forget that odyssey also has damage sponge enemies"
Non issue because the game actually gives you the tools to deal with them. In contract, the 'boss battles' of the OldCreed games are almost 100% scripted.
"and has one of the most simplified parkour systems in the franchises entire history with absolutely no depth or expression unlike the classic games. And the ability to climb anything takes away all thought about how to ascend a building unlike older games where the player was engaged in actually having to find pieces of geometry on buildings."
Simple and function, or janky and broken. Whats better? Take the nostalgia glasses off. The OldCreed games didn't task the player with finding the right geometry or such nonsense. You just had to let off the controller stick for a second before you could climb again. Odyssey doesn't have that, you can actually climb in a straight line. I'll take the simple and functional any day of the week.
"Let’s also not forget that TH-camrs have made great videos on how to effectively use Ac2’s gameplay, yet many people like you either have never seen it or choose to dismiss it. "
Oh, I'm well aware of those highlight videos. Remember, these are put together by people with often hundreds of hours into the game, who've cut and edited the Shorts to show the best possible sequences. The average player will be clipping through ropes, teleporting to ledges, and screaming in anger at all the little stalls, hitches, and stops in the parkour.
"And what you said about “the franchise needing to evolve and it needs to change and the old formula is outdated” is really idiotic ."
I'm going to cut that off right there. The AC franchise was the epitome, textbook definition of franchise fatigue after AC4. The sales collapsed particularly hard after the train wreck of Unity. Due to their annual release schedule, Syndicate was already too far along to cancel, but the subsequent break before Origins was essential to restore the series. You can't simply release the same game in a different setting every year and expect players to react to more than a yawn.
They should be leaning into the RPG angle far more than they have been. With the AC lore, combined with the historical settings, they have essentially no competition. Its an open market, theirs for the taking.
Origins and Odyssey were absolute amazing (haven't played Valhalla yet). Different? Yes. But definitely not a downfall.
Valhalla is great if the you like the AC series for the scenery and the freedom of exploration. Definitely not for a gamer who wants action packed quick dopamine for 20hrs and done with it but a slow burn that you play for couple hours of week for many months just like most TV drama.
O and O are great but Valhalla is so boring
@@trenaceandblackmetal5621 none of em are that great
W, the series has changed but a lot of it is welcomed imo. I hope they make both kinds of games like how they did mirage. And Valhalla was easily my favorite. I hate how fans of older series just love hating on it and it's fans for being different. I understand not liking it but at least don't be toxic about it, considering the change was necessary and the popular criticism with the series was that it was far too similar with each new game so they had to change it a bunch. I mean, i feel like it's not like they hate the formula, but just the company. Ghost of tsushima has a ton in common with the later games but is lauded and fans of earlier games consider it to be a lot better even though there's clear ideas taken from the RPG series. Not saying its a bad thing as I also love GoT but at least be consistent, y'know.
@@shadow4040 they really do have problems even outside of the whole “ac” aspect.
That assassin's creed 2 music hits like a truck holy
Currently been replaying the ac games since July 2022. Just finished main story origins. The nugget for the perfect ac game was somewhere between unity, syndicate and origins.
Why you cutting the dinosaur.. I want to hear it
For me, the most perfect AC would have this:
- Graphics and Parkour & Stealth (or even improved) like in Unity
- Story and gameplay mechanics (like Brotherhood recruits and missions) like in Ezio Trilogy
- Bring back Assassin vs Templar but leave the high fantasy stuff and make it more Sci-Fi with modern day stuff (as the Animus is a gene-recorder-thingy, add more stuff that maybe could "transport" items or gear from different era's through the protagonists Genes)
- Skins only Microtransactions (we know Ubi's greed, so we might as well accept micros)
- Co-op multiplayer! (I really like playing with my friends in Unity, even if the missions are simple and getting repetitive)
- Hell, multiplayer alltogether (there might even be grounds for PvP or Battle Royal where you stealth kill in a warzone or whatever)
- Character customization (so not every online player looks the same)
- MINIMAL RPG elements (especially the combat, lose that atrocious thing)
- Maybe go so far that we get a game where you can play in different era's depending on character creation and unlocked Animus content (you could make it so that we can use the Modern Day as a Player Hub @ Abstergo where you choose the Animus to log into or something)
All in all, there is SO MUCH potential for AC, especially nowadays with the new generation of hardware.
For now, I'll just keep myself busy with a high end PC and modded Unity...
People tend to forget that they were complaining about the year releases, because they were always the same game over and over again. When Ubisoft changed the formula, fans hated them because they weren't the same as they were before. Mirage was supposed to be a Valhalla dlc, same with rogue and black flag, same with Ezio trilogy, ubisoft has always done this thing. And maybe nostalgia doesn't let you see how much of fantasy were in older games, even on prince of Persia. And I don't agree with your opinion on Valhalla neither, it has one of the best stories in the series, and I've been following the saga since the first one, when commercials were on TV. Things are supposed to evolve. However, one thing that people need to understand, is every game made by Ubisoft is exactly the same. So don't expect too much from them
Yeah people expect the next game to be exactly as their favorite, but not exactly same. And when devs decide to do a different thing, thats it, it becomes a tragic downfall. Personally i playd Unity and Odyssey and i really enjoyed both.
Bad take. From 1 to revelations I was in heaven at each launch.
The newer "AC" games didn't need to replace the original ones. Ubisoft could have created a spinoff, a new IP, or anything outside the franchise. I don't mind if the RPGs are enjoyable and more refined, Ubisoft is using the franchise name to sell something different and I'll never accept that.
I'm so sick of mirage being called a Valhalla dlc because it was only suggested as a dlc and Ubisoft Bordeaux wanted to make a game that was like the old games however they where not given much support by the higher ups and they only had a couple of years too make it so they had to use old assets for what they did it had a huge emphasis on stealth which is a key pillar to assassins creed but lacked in others but give them another shot because they know what made us fall in love with the series and they could do so much more.
P.s Ubisoft Bordeaux should do a Thomas de Carneillon game
For me the franchise died when they decided to kill Desmond
Thanks for calling out this franchise. My Last AC game was Origins. Ubisoft is the Mc Donald’s of Gaming.
Nah, they’re more like your local am pm, gross and low quality
Valhalla isn’t bad it’s just very different. It has dull moments but really it’s just really long. This isn’t always a bad thing and the fantastical element isn’t either. Odyssey and Valhalla were just made for different types of video game players and that’s okay
But that’s the issue. Shouldn’t a franchise be made for its fans and not those who aren’t? That doesn’t sound fair if u ask me.
I started with the series with bloodlines on psp in 2013. Then I played ac 4 and from then on I played every next and previous game. I was 9 when I got into it and I am almost 20 now. You can say I grew up with the franchise.
When i played origins shortly after its release I enjoyed the hell out of it and thought the seires is going in a good direction. After playing odyssey which i also enjoyed, i took a break from the franchise and didn't really play Valhalla. Until recently. Here are my thoughts on it.
It's my favorite game in the whole of Assassin's Creed alongside Black flag. I think gameplay and world wise it's the best game in the series. It's all I ever wanted when I was a kid. The story might be a little lacking compared to ac bf or the ezio trilogy but it's still a great game.
I'm looking forward towards what ubisoft has in for us in the future.
What happened to the series is ubisoft... ubisoft happened. Remember they are a AAAA developer now.
I recently replay the Ezio collection and most part I like the simplicity of gameplay and the well rounded story but I do not like the controls and how bad are the missions used to be. I’m more than okay of not doing anymore if trailing missions with instant fail when detected but game consider detected if they see you .1 sec before the stealth kill
People constantly shrug off how atrocious the mission design can be in old AC.
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An original-style Assassin's Creed Game set in India during the Revolt of 1857 - That is what they need.
Lmao according to who really ???
An assassin in middle of a colonial gunpowder age would be the worst setting in my opinion
@@vatsal7640 Like WHY ??
@@DebshankarPathak-hb8tf probably because it makes zero sense
@@vatsal7640 I dont think so, a setting like that has a lot of wiggle room , perfect for an AC game.
@@vatsal7640 Ubisoft thought the same about Egypt as a setting but Origins turned out pretty good.
This was the most honest review I've ever seen and you have said everything everyone was thinking however i do wanna say they keep trying to bring back a fan base they are just losing more people by the year by trying to bring a fan base back and I'm not looking forward to anymore assassins creed games after black flag i tried playing mirage but got dissatisfied with gameplay, and just watched the storyline on TH-cam, just cutscene's and I've never played Valhalla before but i wasn't very into the storyline as well and believe me if I'm not interested in a storyline I'm not buying the game there was just something about black flag if ubisoft ever created another assassins creed like that one I'd be the first to buy it but for now im not even looking in their direction anymore going more into Uncharted direction the last two uncharted games had me on my feet
The last AC game I've played was Odyssey, haven't bought any Ubisoft game ever since.
AC has kindled my love for history in the past. I'd spend hours reading each historical character and place's notes and I'd have infinite levels of fun while doing so, but today I cannot even recognize the franchise I fell in love with. Since they've announced they'd simply unactive accounts I chose not to log in into mine. I'd rather remember the good times with the franchise than keep a senseless feeling of nostalgia and love alive on life support.
I feel like the odd one out who *loves* the original Assassin's Creed, generally enjoyed most of the games from AC2 through Unity/Rogue (still haven't played all of them, though), and also loves Odyssey 😂
The main 3 things that bother me in this franchise is: 1. They called the protagonists “assassins”. The real life assassins didn’t have righteous values like the characters we see in these games. They were more brutal and cold. Plus they didn’t wear bright white robes. It would’ve been better to give them a different name from the start. 2. They killed off Lucy and Desmond. 3. Just pushing out way too many AC games(some with false advertising. Looking at you AC3). Plus not fixing some bugs in these games. There are more mistakes in this franchise but these are the main 3 that I wanted to talk about.
It died when it stopped with the Ezio timeline…
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I appreciated that. I wish I could give this video more than just the one Like as a result.
I started this franchise with 2, many years after it released. Really enjoyed it so moved to 3, 4, rogue, and then the newer trilogy. I actually quite enjoy the new style of games, evidenced by my 100% completion of all three new games. Vahalla did take forever but I still felt accomplished. I think the best way to describe my feelings for the newer titles is "guilty pleasures". I know they're nothing innovative or ground breaking but they're easy games mechanically with fun stories so it's almost like turning your brain off and just relaxing while playing. I've fallen off sweaty FPS games that I used to love when I was younger and frankly, I'm just not as good at them anymore. These new AC games are perfect for the aging gamer like myself. Sorry for the novel
17:58 i kinda like the mythological/fantasy filter as long as it has a well explained and interesting isu story that plays some first civilization story (specially with some known characters like juno, minerva, jupiter, etc) and not an unclear, enigmatic one that only AC lore experts like accestheanimus can understand (Example: dawn of ragnarok dlc, or even fate of atlantis, which was a simulation partially based on isu events lived by aletheia). Darby Mcdevvit managed to make this with odin/havi in valhalla´s main storyline, even tho it was still too mysterious imo.
ISU lore and storyline are incredibly underrated. The writers offer in video game form an almost complete metaphysical system as it were, drawing from quite vast philosophical, mythological and even occult knowledge, although as you said at times enigmatic. I do however get that people may not have the minds nor hundreds of hours for this, but that should not justify for them a lack of understanding of why the games have been like this lately and how they connect on a fundamental level to the first ones. I found profound meaning, wisdom and charm in all that Assassin's Creed has to offer, especially Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla. Fate of Atlantis and Dawn of Ragnarok are amazing, if given the proper time and attention. One might even learn from them a thing or two about some hidden aspects of reality, but of course all of this is nonsense and it's just 'greed'. Well, I can tell you that the average Marvel fan is most likely incapable of understanding even a quarter of this lore.
@@Tsukuyomi137 agreed 🙌 haven't played dawn of ragnarok yet (i only watched the access the animus' story analysis videos) but, for example, in fate of atlantis we have these very interesting and underrated secret "hidden truth" journals all around atlantis city that talk about project anthropos, aita, the human isu war, the predictions of the toba catastrophe and general sister realm politics (persephone+hades+poseidon) that also mentions mount olympus and zeus, which im 100% sure that it's equivilant to utgard, jotunheim, the place we visit in valhalla because zeus=jupiter=suttungr (maybe also aegir=poseidon??)
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Yes, the notes/journals scattered throughout the world are very rich if you give them time and thought and if you can keep track of all of them across the many games and hundreds of hours. Honestly I can only think of about 4 or 5 games/series that made me so interested in their world as far as lore is concerned, those being the Mass Effect trilogy back in the days, together with God of War, The Witcher and most FromSoftware games.
Assassin's Creed ISU/Precursor storyline is particularly fascinating because it draws from so many sources which in itself is astonishing. And this is coming from someone who is quite knowledgeable in many of these subjects. There seems to be a forgotten or hidden part of human history and I think the writers are trying to fill the gap in a way that is really reasonable if properly perceived (that is having the previous knowledge of various kinds necessary to understand what is being told). Video games have been such a powerful medium through which to disclose knowledge through stories and I believe this is what is happening here. Humankind has not its origin in some accidental multi-billion year old bio-chemical process for sure, so then what remains is that human beings have been created either by someone or something in some fashion or the other. The game delves deeply into this by referencing various metaphysics such as that of Neoplatonism and Gnosticism and here I will give an interesting example of a note from the endgame of Valhalla (bear in mind the Christian perspective):
"I have lately confirmed that there exists a group of men and women within our Church who belong to a parasitic order of heathens, men and women who wish for nothing less than the perversion of our God's word. As lice upon a loyal hound, they scurry about unseen, using our resources fur purposes in opposition to our Savior's plan.
In the past year, I have gleaned what I could about the beliefs of these vile usurpers, who call themselves The Order of the Ancients [precursors of the Templars]. Here are but a few of their disturbing ideas:
They believe that mankind was created not by the Lord God, but by lesser and imperfect gods, variously called Isu, Archons or Nephilim in their various unholy texts. In this way, they follow the unholy heresies of the gnostic sects that flourished in the years before the Nicene Creed.
They refuse the message of the Christ and his redemptive act of sacrifice. They disbelieve in sin and salvation, and seek only knowledge and power, which they believe will free their spirit in the final days.
They believe mankind is a lesser form of life, imperfect in the shadow of these lesser gods, and that it is mankind's sole duty to aspire to the example of these lesser gods.
Their obsession with these ancient ones has led them to make a fetish of diabolical artifacts, which they believe will give them power and righteous cause over their fellow men. These devil's tools I have not seen for myself, but I have observed their effect on a few.
Most blasphemous of their beliefs is perhaps this: they believe many of these lesser gods still walk the earth or may return one day in resurrected forms. Some they believe are continually reborn. These they call sages. Others seem to appear once only and never again. Whether they believe the Lord Jesus Christ to be such a one, I have yet to determine, but their literature is full of references to such beings.
All this I know to be true. In light of this gathering darkness, I urge swift and violent action, my lord, for the reach of this order is vast and their power insidious. Be thou a soldier for our Christ. Only a sustained campaign of eradication will end their advance.
Heed my words with care and wisdom, Noble Charlemagne, and may the Lord God guard thee, exalt thee, and make thee enter the glory of his blessed and everlasting vision."
Now, as for the various realms in the game, I do not think that they are the same. For example, while Zeus is Jupiter that is only because of the proximity of those mythologies (Greco-Roman) but you cannot take Zeus to be Suttungr for they are very different and come from different creationist stories of different cultures. Layla's notes tell us this about the ISU culture:
"But wait, it gets even better! I immediately saw some suspicious similarities with ancient languages. So not that I could decipher the glyphs, I dug into our Precursor archives for more sources. I had to sort through the many different types of writings we found on Precursor sites to find some similar to that inscription. It's quite puzzling how many seemingly unrelated writing systems they had! Maybe the Precursors were not a monolithic a civilization as we think? Anyway, after more in-depth comparative work, the conclusion is unequivocal: this language is related to ancient languages from the Indo-European family, maybe even others. In fact, given the corpus I have studied, I would say that is is probable an ancestor to them. Or at least had a significant influence on them. This is truly fascinating!"
In particular, "It's quite puzzling how many seemingly unrelated writing systems they had! Maybe the Precursors were not a monolithic a civilization as we think?" tells us that these ancestors were indeed very diverse, so one would have to preserve some difference when talking about the various subraces within the precursor species. It is quite clear that they all had their particularities and some were better at some things than others and vice versa.
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This is interesting, I gave an in-depth reply to your comment a few days ago but youtube seems to have hidden it. Can you see anything other than our initial replies?
@@Tsukuyomi137 i only saw one comment bro :(
At 0:51 my brain went (ohhh he’s really getting into character with that outfit on)😂
It got too big and depending on its setting and what they do with it, it can be a win or a fail. Originally, I came to Assassin's Creed because while I thought the historical settings were cool, I wanted to see the present-time story play out and how the historical stuff affected it. After 3 that more or less changed. I stopped caring about the present-day stuff and got way more into the historical aspect. I played some of them again before AC: Origins and appreciated the ones I thought were originally mediocre (AC3, Unity), so even though at that point I was getting tired of the series, I thought "Wow, I like every AC game released so far, in one way or another." Then I played Origins and was again kind of just done. Tried Odyssey when it came out, played it a couple of times many months apart, and only managed to get off Kephallonia. I got bored of it a few times.
I picked it back up in 2020, and I proceeded to do every little thing in it, putting around 240 or so hours into it, combined with the DLC. The story was an absolute mess, especially with the DLC taken into account, but I loved exploring Greece, and being a god was enjoyable where you just annihilate your foes and can't get hurt jumping off from any height. I also, somewhere along the way through Odyssey bought Origins again on the Xbox One X (had it on PS4) and experienced that game's discovery tour which I enjoyed a lot. Then Valhalla came out. I got it a bit late, but I played it for several dozen hours and got bored with it and I'm not sure I'll ever finish it. I have no plans on playing Mirage. However, my brother bought Nexus, and it's pretty good. Haven't finished it yet. AC lives and dies now on how fun its gameplay is and how much I want to explore its world because the story since Unity has been weak.
TLDR: My enthusiasm for the series is up and down, but currently very low.
so apple of eden is
historically
accurate?
That was an element of the basic lore which was included alongside the historical accuracy.
Yes. 🗿 cope
Apple and Oranges sophistry. For this argument to work, you'd need to have AC1 having you fighting Demons, Nephilims and Biblical monstrosities. It didn't, you killed knights and guards. The Apple of Eden is a simple plot device using a "lore element" anybody on Earth knows about since they're kids.
Of course i was misunderstood people only know me because Charles Lee speaking of him does anyone know where he is
I think he went that way
@@deepflare1028 which way
Charles Lee was a wuss and he manhandled you! Altair or Ezio would have make quick work of him in seconds!
As a huge fan of the original games, I love the new take on Assassin's Creed. I was gifted Odyssey in June of 2020, and I put a massive amount of time into that game. I have always appreciated the use of historical figures and locations in the games, but that never gave me the feeling that the games were 'realistic.' Fighting mythological beasts and talking to Greek gods was awesome. I went back and played Origins afterward and thought it was also pretty great, if not as good as Odyssey. I'm currently playing through Valhalla, and while I'm not as impressed, I'm still enjoying it. None of the new games replicate the magic of titles like Assassin's Creed 2, but they are great games in their own way. I'm a huge fan of both generations.
I like all tge games but i love the rpg series 😊
If every assassin’s creed game stuck to the way it was made in its early creation with the historical accuracy and similar gameplay it would’ve just been boring I find the variety in the game types interesting and fun.
No it was not boring, it was super Interesting. But we can't have all the same curious mind, can we?
Everything went downhill with Ezio and using the Disclaimer to create really stupid lore about the Pieces of Eden. In the first game, everything is still safely ambiguous about what these things are. Then its immediately its all definitively ancient aliens, 2009 Reddit atheism, and historical conspiracy that raises a lot of logical and logistical issues. Like, the database entries regarding the Papacy and its affiliation with the Templars dating back to the Crucifixion of Jesus. So basically, Jesus was crucified because Roman and Jewish proto-Templars wanted the Shroud of Turin since in this world its magic and Jesus wasnt divine because God's not real in AC. But then that raises questions about the aftermath of it all. How much involvement did Peter and the Apostles have with ancient Assassins and why were they actually martyred when the Templars who would have done it genuinely didn't care about the question of the Divinity of Christ because Jesus was just a guy in AC? What about the entire history of Christianity up until the 1400s, papal successions and schisms and how you'd even attempt working the reign of Constantine into any of this with everything going on there. Plus the side quest of ancient Assassin tombs underneath Italian cathedrals, how is the Templar Order somehow in charge of the Catholic Church but they managed to allow THAT to happen under their noses? Especially when the Templars officially started in 1119 and a lot of the big churches Ezio did those parkour tomb puzzles in were built AFTER 1119 especially when the Pope was who authorized the Crusades and Knightly Orders in the first place? How did Assassins EVER manage to get these things in place when everything says they shouldn't have? Heck, why would Rodrigo Borgia even need to be doing some grand conspiracy to become Pope when by all accounts his immediate predecessors should ALSO have been Templars? And then the NEXT Pope was Ezio's buddy. How did THAT go over if the Church hierarchy was still full of Templars who would be aware that these guys in the conclave were working with Ezio? Its not like any of this wouldn't be an issue since the Ezio Trilogy cemented that religion is universally just a Templar means of controlling people. Plus if the Isu are an actual civilization, why do they seem so uncultured? Why do we have implications of normal civilians when all we see are smug scientists at the top? Do the Isu have a culture? Do they have their own stories, myths and religions? How'd they even come into existence? Did THEY even know, let alone care? Why do Templars talk of Jupiter's "Father of Understanding" office like it remotely matters when he barely exists or actually cares? Juno does more than either him or Minerva, and Minerva STILL does more than him too. Plus you have how nothing about the Isu and their identities actually makes sense with real comparative mythology and Proto-Indo European root words. Where's Manu and Yemo in any of this? How does any of that relate? Why are there instances of multiple named Isu who are treated as separate people when their names historically were considered different names for the same person? Why do Odyssey and Valhalla jump back and forth between treating Isu as actual deities accurate to their mythology and stupid scientists accurate to the lore since 2? Why is Fenris a wolf?
Oh and Crawford Sterrick. An acknowledgement of how the closer to Today you get, the more likely you'll end up having Historical Antagonists with living descendants who won't like seeing an ancestor turned into a moustache-twirling villain so you might as well just make someone up instead. All of these together just show how much it was doomed from 2 on and the narrative would have been much easier to implement if there were no Isu, whatever the PoE actually were was implicitly irrelevant to a story more concerned with the people who killed eachother over them and everyone had different mutually unfalsifiable explanations that changed in every setting, and if the Assassins and Templars were all keeping in the shadows as historically unrecorded OCs who merely influenced the actual historical people that ran stuff. All so much easier to work with thanks to the sheer grey it creates instead of the issue any historical alt-history conspiracy plot because now there are less things to worry about. Probably why I like Black Flag so much, it basically does this in Edward's story: its more about HIM as a pirate caught up in the conflict than it is about a new rando single handedly toppling an empire that'll be at full power again in 5 years.
Odyssey was an amazing game. I just replaced my old blown up PS4, with a used PS4 Slim, to play a New Game + as Kassandra.
The whole downfall happens because unity got a bad response by fans
Unity was very VERY bad when it came out.
Downright unplayable
@@missa2855 you think I don’t know that?
ezio games and then odyssey, rest have been mid af. They shouldve continued the Juno storyline. The old trailers go haaard, even ac 3 trailer slaps. Best one was revelations though.
I would not lump Odyssey into the good category tbh
There are only 3 Assassins creed games, Assassins creed, Assassins creed 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4.
😂😂😂😂
Everyone called this a decade ago when they committed to churning a new Assassin's Creed out Every. Single. Year