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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 พ.ค. 2024
- In this video we review the new Surface Pro 9 in Sapphire Blue. This is the i5 version with 16gb of ram.
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Timestamps: -
0:00:00 - Intro
0:00:35 - Options, Specs, and Pricing
0:02:59 - Externals
0:04:31 - Ports
0:05:28 - Upgradability
0:06:06 - Screen
0:06:54 - Speakers
0:07:40 - Webcams and Windows Hello
0:08:15 - Typecover
0:08:41 - Touchpad
0:08:51 - Keyboard
0:10:08 - Performance
0:12:31 - Iris Graphics Capabilities
0:14:16 - Battery Life and Power Options
0:15:29 - Conclusion
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Will you share the background used during your sponsor schpeal? The neon light arrows against the black is beautiful!
Great video, thanks for going through all of the specs and sharing your thoughts!
Best thing about the SP9 is that I just picked up an 8 for a crazy good price.
how much?
Thanks for not stating how much and where you purchased, it was really intelligent of you to make the effort not to include this. Please come again soon, TH-cam benefits greatly from useful contributors like you.
@@Saintathantwinpeaksyou need to relax 😂
Thanks for the objective review
Good video mate. It's always nice to watch your videos!
Thank you mate
What would be the best gaming laptop $2,700 and under for gaming school work and game making and 3D modeling
Excellent video! THANK YOU 👍
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the thorough review. Will you be doing a review of the SQ3/5G David?
I am in two minds, if enough people want to see it I will get one in, I am just not convinced by windows arm yet
first! solid content as always!
Thanks a lot :)
Hey ! What a quality video you did ! Can you do a review on what gaming laptop is the coolest ? cuz I think that if we take care a maximum our laptop the most important requirement of his longevity /durability is his thermals system. It will helps people (and me) to choose the best gaming laptop
That sounds like a good idea. I have Novembers content fully booked but will try and do something in December
@@MashITTech thanks ! Have a nice november
EXCELLENT!!! 👌
Great review
Thank you :)
Just ordered the surface pro 8 with top specs 1 tb SSD i7 32 gb ram for the same price as the reviewed surface pro 9 in this video. Definitely felt good making that purchase.
How much ? Where did you get it from ?
@@serdengecti6578 from amazon surface pro and type cover for $1400.
@@theonlyansa Just went through those offers on amazon. There are so many misleading offers check the specs most of them don't match. Descriptions, specs or even pictures with specs on the box. If you can provide the one you bought I would appreciate it.
Amazon is pretty bad ...I flagged and reported the misleading info days ago...but Amazon is not doing anything about it....I can't believe it...very disappointing for users who do not pay attention.
The Dell XPS 2-in-1 you compared the battery life to, is a lower clocked lower wattage 1230U CPU. It's not the same as the i5-1235U in this SP9.
Good point, I completely forgot that, I was thinking they were the same! I have had too many laptops in lately 😂
This is what the ipad pro is supposed to be. Nowadays, all hardwares are pretty powerful, so debating who's cpu is 10% faster is pointless (especially for tablet thermals). The software/os is what is going to limit what work you can get done.
True. I have a 12" IPP gathering dust, its an amazing device but IOS is so limiting. Every time I try to do any work on the iPad I have to jump through so many hoops to get anything done that I give up and grab a laptop
@@MashITTech: Completely agree. My iPad Air 2 with all the OS and app upgrades requires much more power, it is slow; cannot receive their latest iPad OS, and the like. Although their new iPad is quite powerful, I am as you are jumping through too many hoops which at times is mentally exhausting; I am over it. Thus, my reason for a proper portable Windows device, the Surface line very much appeals to me. Previously an eleven-year iPhone only user, now my EDC is a Samsung Note 20.
I always used to have a phone, tablet, and a laptop. Since I don't game the tablet was always a content watching device. While Surface devices have always been expensive in my case mine replaced both a traditional clamshell laptop and a tablet. It's a great device to have around the house because it's a full pc for paying bills or writing docs and just enough of a tablet for casual use.
What surface are you currently using? As much as I love this 9 I certainly can’t justify upgrading to it from my 8, it is just too similar
@@MashITTech I have a Go3 with an i3. Surprisingly it stumbles here and there but has enough power for a home PC. I prefer the smaller size over the Pro. I used to have a Pro 7
@@ccroy2001 Go3 Is good for casual use? I'd mostly use it for Cloud pc access so no actual use on the machine.
Hi there Mash Team, mad respect from India, here the i5 and the i7 models are separated by a whopping premium of $500, although I am not a very power hungry user, or a content creator, just a researcher....still when I do research, I can have in excess of 20 tabs open and a few excel, word and Pdfs open... I have an Xbox and hence gaming is not a need at all with this device....I still rock a MacBook Pro i5 8th Gen with Touch Bar, which seems to be failing on me anytime soon, it has gotten sluggish especially after the latest Ventura Update, I am done with Macs and I always wanted a surface for the longest time I remember.....although getting an M1 or an M2 makes a lot of sense, I am asking you honestly, If I were to switch to a Surface, would this be a good year to do so...? I am eyeing the i5 12th intel model with the keyboard and pen that costs roughly $1800....Please Advise!
No headphone jack = no deal. Getting rid of these jacks in phones is stupid, but somewhat understandable (extreme space constraints). This is inexcusable on a laptop, or even a tablet IMHO.
Agreed. No point to watch anymore after reading this comment.
It really is dumb, there is no good reason to remove it
I wouldn't say it's stupid unless you fly often. For frequent flyers, it is extremely dumb choice to remove headphones.
Not happy with the choice but most casual consumers will just use Bluetooth headphones. I myself own the 9 and use surface headphones 2 with it. I pretty much forget that it doesn't have a jack.
Excellent timely review. Thanks! The surface is getting heavier for hand held tablet use at nearly 2 lbs. They will have to do better with weight. Else just get a real laptop some of which are quite light.
Old laptops are crusty ideas of what was---Surface Pro's have earned respect for innovation and the USA Department of Defense have made these universal in the field. I work for an airline and see what thousands of customers use everyday. We use these exclusively as the Lenovos have been banned for several years now due to Chinese Tech Threat to the world.
Thank you and yes I agree, they also really need to consider AMD options for better battery and gfx IMHO
I agree and unfortunately that iconic kickstand add to the weight and thickeness, making it harder to use as a tablet. Apple, Samsung, and Dell are all opting for no kickstand but it'll be hard for Microsoft to come around b/c SP fans are fanatical about that kickstand lol
hey, great review as usual! I fully agree with most commenters here. at this point, Microsoft is trolling us with such an expensive device with 8GB of RAM for the base model, not to mention all the downgrades (no headphone jack, no SD card slot, etc.) I have a Surface 7+ which I love dearly and carry around with me everywhere, but this one is a hard pass. appreciate the honest review.
Thank you mate and Gary still loves his 7+. I love my 8 but man do I miss the SD slot and USBA port :(
@@MashITTech I didn't mention the USBA port on my previous comment fearing it would look old-fashioned, but it seems I'm not the only one who cares about that ;-)
The Pro 9 blows out that Pro 7 by far brotha. No comparison whatsoever! Headphone jacks are the thing of the pass, so it's time to move forward.
@@williamcopeland2617 my man, if you're into audio production that headphone jack is still a big deal. I'm personally not aware of any bluetooth headphone model which can properly handle very low latency audio streams... I don't think we are quite there yet. and for a device with a very limited amount of ports, using a dongle won't cut it either. I agree that we need to move on, but removing both the audio jack and the SD card slot is not really an improvement to this device, IMHO.
Microsoft always makes the ipad pros look like a better deal despite both being overpriced
Have you seen the iFixit teardown and repair score? It's gone from 1 to 7 with the Pro 9's complete internal redesign.
Yes, I just watched that today! Really good news especially after recently repairing a surface pro 4 for a client! Wow that was hard work
Great review Mash IT guys, really enjoyed your content and subscribed. 👍🏾
My thoughts as someone that would like a productivity machine but is not blessed with tons of money. This is really frustrating as I like how productive I can be on windows but prefer the speed and stability Apple products bring. I would really like a Surface but there’s always a catch (price vs performance). So at the moment an ipad is faster editing photos and videos and windows better for data analysis. Sooooo frustrating :-(. Maybe a deal on the Pro 8 is the answer!
Thank you. I think you should certainly look for a deal on a surface pro 8, it is almost as fast as the 9 and there are some great deals going. One thing is I have found the surface pro to be very stable for a windows machine and on par with a MacBook (I use both daily for work) I will soon be doing a surface pro 9 bs surface pro 8 and I think you will be surprised with just how good the 8 was 👍
@@MashITTech thank you and thanks again for the content it really is top stuff and appreciated. Ps there is a £700 deal for a pro 8 with keyboard at curry’s but…. It’s 8Gb of ram! So unfortunate. All the best.
@@RemofRenaissance wait for Black Friday. I got my pro 8 recently from John Lewis with 16gb and type cover for not much more than that
If anyone wants this Costco has the 16Gb RAM version on sale for $1099 with the Keyboard bundled with it! Phenomenal deal!
That’s a much more sensible price!
Graphics not being upgraded is sad, they are years behind apple and the ipad pro with this. Drawing apps like fresco lag and are slow with these slow iris graphics
Does it runs Linux?
The REAL upgrade of the Surface Pro 9 is the Arm 5G version.
Have been waiting 2 years for an upgrade of the Surface Pro X SQ1 model, so this is the one I'm jumping onto.
I'm not waiting 2 more years for Qualcom's Nubia based Arm chip for Windows in 2024.
Blue on the device looks really good, but i can't decide if i like the blue on the type cover or not
I am loving the blue! Wish I could justify keeping this one when I have a perfectly good sp8 which performs almost the same and has a headphone jack
Why didn't you say if batter saver was turned on or off?
I get over 12 hours on my SP8 (40% brightness, battery saver on, TH-cam running on wifi continuously).
Also, the single-core CPU performance, which is used for basic office work, is the same on the SP8 and SP9.
So the upgraded CPU won't make a difference for most people.
Battery saver was off. I will enable it and test again and let you know.
can someone confirm battery life of SP9 , particularly vs the Dell XPS 13 2-in1? The video mention SP9 is worse but I'm seeing conflicting info elsewhere
I am consistently getting 7 to 7.5 hours of battery life with mine. where have you heard otherwise and how much are they getting?
@@MashITTech Im referring to a review. th-cam.com/video/AhEIaK7-Y-4/w-d-xo.html
Thanks mate, I will take a look and see if I can run the test int eh same way they have and compare. I will let you know how I get on.
Just took a look and wow, that's massive difference to me! I notice he is running at a lower brightness. I am going to recreate his settings tomorrow and leave it running
SSD still starts 128 for the base model.. 256 is the next model up with evo badge
Oh that’s weird, there is not 128gb in the U.K.! What is the starting price for the 128gb version?
@@MashITTech In Canada, starts at $1280 with 8/128 and $349 for KB +Pen. Wish 16GB and 256 is the starting price and KB combo is under 200 max.. i love surface devices and user Pro 5 daily. It works for my needs and i may upgrade this yr. or next, aka Pro 10. Great review, btw. Glad you mentioned kickstand and this is such a great single feature of surface pro devices. Im hoping that next yr. MS can upgrade surface GO3 with redesign and better cpu, maybe new ARM chip. For productivity stuff, Office365 type and tablet usage, it will be a nice portable device.
Total price does make MBA M2 cheap in comparison and it is also a good device🙂
@@nsns1996 yeah the prices are crazy, but I usually managed to get a good deal on one sooner or later. Got my pro 8 16gb for an incredible price with type cover included
Does the arm surface run windows??
Yes the arm version of windows
How does this compare to a Razer Blade?
Well you can draw on the surface can your shiny Razer blade do that 😂
My Type Cover stopped working after updating drivers out of the box. So far I'm annoyed.
Oh wow, that’s annoying. Sorry to hear that
Hey, I had the option between this or an I pad pro 11 m2, with pen and Magic Keyboard. Both are around 1500€ with keyboard and pen.
I use ist for work. Make pictures and documentation the project. Wrote bills and calculate offers.
Was it a good decision?
which did you buy?
I ordered the I pad
The iPad is a great device and for your use sounds like you made the right decision I just find iOS is sometimes a bit difficult to work with
@@MashITTech yes i guess too. In my work the use of it will be only 10% maybe
i can't believe you are such a Surface fan that you have had every version, didn't some of the early models suck?
The 3 and 5 were a bit meh but despite the flaws I loved my original surface pro 1 even with its awful keyboard 😂
Great review. Tbh, I don't get the device at all. Aside from CPU power, throttling and stuff, it has to get the very basics right. This thing is a gadget for people demanding high mobility. In 2022, that means having access to the Internet at all times because without it, it's just a dumb, expensive brick. At this point, they're really just trolling us. I wouldn't be surprised if they omitted onboard Wi-Fi next time around because hey, you could just use a dongle like back in the early 90s.
It goes without saying that LTE/5G shouldn't even be an _option_ for this type of device, it should be _included_ just like it is on a smartphone. Especially at that price point. And talking about price, this is also what's holding M$ back and not doing anybody any favors. Their Surface line is so vastly overpriced, that it doesn't move too many units. Just look at the nickle and diming essential accessories like keyboard and pen or the price of their Surface Studio, a slightly improved iMac with mediocre 11th gen hardware at a breathtaking $5.5k. And that lack in sales hinders their ability to improve their products. They keep skipping processor generations, sell the same design over and over, etc. making it ever less desirable as time goes on. I don't even care to count the years the SurfaceBook had the same design.
All they had to do was make proper devices that stand out a bit, priced maybe 10-15% above the competition as to not upset their OEMs. But for whatever reason, Sadella thought he could just turn M$ hardware into the next Apple without having all their ducks in a row. Not happening.
I myself owned the SurfaceBook 1, which had tremendous firmware problems for months but otherwise at least a decent screen, mouse pad, keyboard and battery life and the Surface Pro 3, which was plagued with even worse firmware problems, having me regularly turn up at appointments with clients where I needed it with a piping hot, almost molten slab of metal and the battery at 0%.
EDIT: The panel who decided on the size of the mouse pad should be sentenced to a Surface Pro as their only device for no less than 30 years without the possibility of parole.
😂 totally agree with everything! I think they are trying to out "Apple" apple with the pricing! the surface pro makes the new MacBook Air look cheap 🤣 I just wish someone else would make a windows premium line like the surface! Dell is close with the XPS but their pricing is becoming insane and then you get the bugs and poor QC of Dell to contend with
@@MashITTech I know, right? Love the form factor, but come on, somebody please give us something to work with.
While I prefer the Dell's design with even frame thickness around the screen, the rest, including the price, is hot garbage.
Looks like I'll have to make do with the X1 Yoga for a little longer. Too bad its screen turns black when you rip off the keyboard. 😋
Have you looked at the asus rog z13? It’s like a surface pro on steroids, it’s much thicker but has i9 12900h and 3050ti! Battery sucks but I can forgive that for the insane performance. I have only had mine a few days but hope to get a review out later next week 😀
@@MashITTech Holy mittens, that's quite a monster! Too bad they had to make it look like a spaceship, so you can't show up with it to a meeting without looking like a 5-year-old. 😐
You know, I'd actually love to have a tablet with 5G and a power-saving Ryzen CPU with decent battery life that doesn't cost a firstborn plus a kidney for the keyboard. Seems just too much to ask for. 🙈
Haha you are not wrong about the look but man I am loving the power, it’s not even overly loud! Just played a couple of rounds of apex on it and it was amazing playing it on a 2in1 at over 100fps on a 120hz screen!
No headphone jack = 100% deal killer for any device for me. Period.
You and me both! There was just no reason to take it away, it’s not like it was redesigned and smaller
5/10. These 12 gen U cpus are utter garbage. they have only 2P cores. if this had a Ryzen 6800U its cpu performance would be much. its GPU would give you 4x-6x better performance in games. and the battery life would also be better. Id give it 8.5/10 with AMD
the price would also be cheaper too. Microsoft are stupid for removing the AMD option from the surface laptops.
Totally agree with you both! The t14 I just reviewed with the ryzen has more than double the gfx power, more cpu power yet more battery life! What hold has intel got over these companies that they can’t use Ryzen?
@@MashITTech to my knowledge intel does pressure big OEMs like lenovo, ms & dell to only use their chips only on premium chassis like xps,latitude, surface pro . they would give them deep discounts and also help in the development of products. in the past they were caught bribing Dell.
@@MashITTechunlike Intel, AMD is not making such designs and investing in it. And they can't provide CPUs in a timely manner and quantity after they are announced
I am a bit skeptical toward gen11 vs gen12 comparison. On one side on the paper you have only 2 high performance cores SP9 vs 4 normal ones in SP8, but are those low performance cores truly slower than older gen? Keep in mind that there is a boost from RAM frequency as well. It may still easily be on the similar level. However, present benchmarks look incomplete and therefore inconclusive. Thinking at the moment if I go with 8 with i7 or 9 with i5. I hope we get good comparison soon...
Just ordered the Pro 9 in Sapphire and paid about $1900 for everything 😬
Wow, they are expensive but a lovely bit of kit. I am still using my 8 as the 9 wasn’t a big enough upgrade to justify the upgrade but I was tempted just for the sapphire colour 😂
@@MashITTech I'm a sucker for anything blue lol. Is it true it only lasts 2 to 3 years?
It's an expensive but lovely device and I'd love to see how arm version perform. I just don't understand why it doesn't have a Ryzen version.
Yeah its crazy, this years 6800h is incredible and the T14 I just reviewed blows this away for performance, graphics and battery! Microsoft even removed the AMD version from the Surface laptop, such a shame :(
cord headphones is old school.... let it go already!
haha I am old school! I love corded headphones and the ability to plug speakers in. I do have bluetooth headphones but still mostly use corded! But there is plenty of space for the port, its not like the shrunk the chassis, they have taken it away for the sake of taking it away!
Microsoft is doing all it can, but I guess it's time for a new customed designed chip.
So true. Intel also really need to work harder on both power efficiency and integrated graphics, both are sorely lacking compared to both amd and apple silicon
the webcam definitely does not look like that
What do you mean?
I wish the keyboards weren't so overpriced. Guess if you're upgrading from the surface pro 8 though you can just keep your keyboard.
yeah the prices are insane! I always wait a little while until a sale and then pick one up! Got my pro 8 with type cover for an amazing price
Bought it and I think it is slow! CPU I guess
Slow! How come?
i want to say "drawing" like Mash IT, i need to teach myself to say it like that
😂
They lost me at the headphone mic in webcam in line out latency free Jack like apple did with iphones and tablets and no ssd upgrades on any of their laptops.
Is the micro SD card still there?
Edit someone said no.
Microsoft needs to install 2 SSD slots and to memory slots upgradeable, bring back the micro or full size SD card slot and an upgraded line headphone ne out mic in Jack with better dac and amp and digital out.
Capable of at least 24/192 uncompressed hi res music files and include tidal trials, for Bluetooth add aptxhd variable and low latency and Sony's ldac wireless Bluetooth hires codec. And digital optical out like older laptops.
Let audio have a top spot for in this system and advertise it.
And add 2 small tweeters driver and mini sub speaker as wel.
Technology has improved so much this can be done very cheaply maybe adding $10 or less to the cost and giving the surface best in class wired and wireless audio.
Oh god, if they lost you at the head phones you don't want me to tell you they dropped the SD card from the Surface Pro 8 onwards :(
They give with one hand and take away with the other!
@@MashITTech well I must congratulate the SSD upgrades, fot security when you sell your laptop, and when they fail over time, or get full, you will not need a new machine, just a new SSD, otherwise you will always be connected to an external one by wire it throw away the machine.
The Costco 16 gb deal is great now.
But yeah they better put the headphone jack back on next refresh in a tmyear it so, they obviously did not survey these to consumers before releasing them.
Remember the aux headphone jack is multipurpose it is also a mic in and a full quality line out, as well, and great for no latency games, etc.
Don't get me wrong I love Bluetooth as well, even those non repairable headphones that go to the dump when the battery eventually dies made by green apple and Microsoft. and they will fell.
It's a profit thing to sell the wireless headphones by banning the wired.
It is how they got so many vaccinated, you ban the unvaccinated.
.and how they will sell electric cars, by banning the gas ones.
Not because people want it, but to push an agenda and profits and save a little production costs
@@MashITTech take awAy two loved features to give a feature that should have always been there.
yep I am in total agreement, I love bluetooth but there is a time and a place for both bluetooth and wired! I won't be retiring my SP8 any time soon
Again. The Surface is not a tablet. It heats too much to hold in your hands.
8GB of RAM is absurd
Yeah it should not be allowed and the price they charge to upgrade to 16gb is a joke
8GB is low in 2022 and no argument there. But MS and others (most) start at 8GB so the base model can be discounted and be a cheaper starting point. This is good business sense otherwise if the base was 16GB everyone would buy that model and if sold at the same price then MS and others would lose their margins. However, Windows and macOS are now excellent with RAM management and the majority of business users that buy the Surface Pro will be fine with 8GB. If you are doing more, then upgrade to 16GB, but let us be honest, why would you need more for the SP9, as it is not really for gaming, creators or prosumers (no dGPU). The 128GB base is a bit thin, and bearing in mind Apple got trashed for a sensible 256GB base, then MS should get much more flack than they are getting. Sadly, the dominance of Windows means that very few will complain, and I have seen YT videos where the influencer decried 256GB on MB Air, but barely touched on the 128GB MS offerings!
I get where you are coming from and partially agree but as ram is so cheap at the moment would it kill them to either offer 16gb base or at least make the upgrade sensible? The 16gb upgrade price is criminal. And with regards to ssd, I would moan about 128gb but I don’t think 256gb is a problem for max or windows, a lot of people keep very little on the device these days. I just picked up a m2 MacBook Air with 256gb and I k ow I won’t fill it. I guess at least with the surface you can upgrade the ssd if 128/256 is t enough
@@MashITTech I agree, the £200 extra for 16GB is a bit rich, but that is where they make their margins, and after all, MS and Apple are in it for the money, being stock market listed, they are there for the shareholders, not consumers! I get why they do it and although I do not like it, it does mean the base model is lower and often discounted, which means that these great devices can reach consumers with lower disposable income. I am pretty sure that if they started at 16GB they would just add £150 to the price and that would take lots of consumers out of the equation. A MB Air starting at £1250 with 16GB of RAM would kill their MB Pro 14 sales!!!
If they haven't even gotten fully rid of 4gb of ram, you can forget about 8GB of ram going anywhere anytime soon. 8GB is fine for a secondary device or simpler needs
I can't believe it, it doesn't even come with a pen!!! I mean why not? It's already frickin' expensive, and the pen as well. What is this about? I am sorry, but this is an utter sh*t of a device. Can anyone even say anything nice about this? Except that it has a "brand" and probably lasts long maybe? It's too expensive for it's value, it doesn't come with a pen, keyboard, earphone jack etc. The only good thing about this that it can take good notes? Any other less expensive tabs can do the same... I wish Microsoft would listen to critics (or maybe consider common sense and what the buyers want)
why do you sound like that most overused narrator voice?
haha is it because I am British. And I know the guy you are talking about 🤣
@@MashITTech 😂
great review btw
배터리 15시간 쓴다고? 웃기고있네
No, the battery was 7 hours and 10 mins! Is the 15 hours what MS quoted?
I mean Apple are doing a better job these days and that says something.
Lol after the new MacBook Air I am not sure! I am actually planning on doing a vs son those two soon for a laugh