What a great skilled mechanic . He use the wooden template to check the surface profile. If one would bend the plate too much and it can't match the profile, can he fix it back into shape? By the way if you bend the steel plate , does it cause any micro-crack inside that affect the strength of the plate? The steel part is made from raw material and heat treated after bending and rolling processes?
Dear Gary Pham; If the plate is bended too much one can bend it back by using a plat beam. Cold Forming is actually reinforcing the material because you pass the yield strength; no cracks will occur and no heat treatment is needed.
...By applying heat and cooling with water... Our Cold Forming method is on average 8 times faster without the danger of overheating and thus destroying the metal properties...
@@nielandshipbuilding Hi thanks for your answer. Modeling the Titanic in 3dmax wondering how thay made the complex curves. Pin impressions where you push your hand in and it molds to the shape. If you had row hydraulic pins positive at the bottom and negative at the top you could imput the cad file into the press and it could be shaped in a fraction of the time.
the last part was stretching the edges to make the plate go lengthwise on the ship, I have same gear but tiny, forming I do not use pressing but I wheel in a vee block, then to give (banana ) to the plate I stretch the plate in Diamond pattern with flat wheels, same as here in convex plates, but with concave you form it first and stretch last as here, stretching the plate lengthwise in the center gives form too, so often you do not need the forming vee blocks, see in my channel, it is not hard at all, in a week I could train anyone to do this.
If you go to a machine shop and ask them to make that single piece, you'll probably pay through your nose. But in a place where they make stacks of them in all sizes and shapes, you might pay the scrap value and some hours for the guy.. Or even find one in their scrap yard where the only price you pay is them having a good time watching you trying to get it loaded in your car(o:
Søren petersen yeh, true. But consider my question in the context of THIS shop. Sure they can make one cheaper than the fab shop down the street. But, we have been doing business long enough now to where the company knows exactly how much a part costs them, labor costs, plant depreciation, etc. It may look cheap to build because the operator makes it look easy, but he is using millions of dollars worth of equipment and years experience to make it so. It wasn’t a trick question, but certainly bears some consideration..,
Metal shaping in large scale , very common equipement use in a ship yard and industrial heavy . Metal fabrication facilities , metal sheets bending and planishing , cold rolled sheets has only .002 to 0.18 percent carbon depends on its application . nice viewing
@@derekcollins1972 England had a huge number of waterpowered sawmills, some of them were used for all the more heavy woodwork like the decks that was used on the Titanic. But i'm not aware of any steel works or factories that used waterpower in any way. Although steam is actually waterpower too.
A jolly big hammer with what we now know that the titanic was but with a subpar steel and not the original grade of iron plate as on the original drawings made. Plus the raging fire in the outside coal bunker. Generally though they used mechanical presses.
But it would take a large compressor with 2/3 large cylinders of different diameters with many curvature functions (and compression if required) but with precise programs (for each physical passage of the sheet the result is established even before each passage), a software guide cad, but for each material the software changes.
Wow. I have an English wheel. I know how hard it is to be that precise. Very talented.
What a great skilled mechanic . He use the wooden template to check the surface profile. If one would bend the plate too much and it can't match the profile, can he fix it back into shape?
By the way if you bend the steel plate , does it cause any micro-crack inside that affect the strength of the plate? The steel part is made from raw material and heat treated after bending and rolling processes?
Dear Gary Pham; If the plate is bended too much one can bend it back by using a plat beam.
Cold Forming is actually reinforcing the material because you pass the yield strength; no cracks will occur and no heat treatment is needed.
That's what "sheer skill" looks like!
i cant even do with this precision in solidworks
What a talented guy!
simplemente increible, no lo puedo creer. es un artista!
a real artist, this man. its a impossible job
Craftmanship!
This MAN is an artist!!!!!!
8:36 look at those massive gaps!
What a great operator, well done Sir.
Done that a few times i'm guessing.
These guys got to know their stuff, great work and videos.👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
How was it done a hundred year's ago?
...By applying heat and cooling with water...
Our Cold Forming method is on average 8 times faster without the danger of overheating and thus destroying the metal properties...
@@nielandshipbuilding Hi thanks for your answer. Modeling the Titanic in 3dmax wondering how thay made the complex curves. Pin impressions where you push your hand in and it molds to the shape. If you had row hydraulic pins positive at the bottom and negative at the top you could imput the cad file into the press and it could be shaped in a fraction of the time.
@@John-mz8rj Yes possible and applied in some machines but limited in force and it's very complex to build a press like that...
the last part was stretching the edges to make the plate go lengthwise on the ship, I have same gear but tiny, forming I do not use pressing but I wheel in a vee block, then to give (banana ) to the plate I stretch the plate in Diamond pattern with flat wheels, same as here in convex plates, but with concave you form it first and stretch last as here, stretching the plate lengthwise in the center gives form too, so often you do not need the forming vee blocks, see in my channel, it is not hard at all, in a week I could train anyone to do this.
Imagine the pressure on those bearings in the rollers, didn't catch wether the rollers were powered or was it the chains pulling the plate through?
John Bennett you can see on the left side of the lower roller the casing for the drivetrain
Great talent is awesome!
But where does it go?
Dear Peter Riis; this could be a panel for a bulbous bow for instance...
@@nielandshipbuilding
Thanks. 😊
El operario es un artista. Sabe hacer su trabajo.
Good job
I’m curious what a panel such as that would be valued at?
$2.50 and some meatballs.
Not a lot compared to the rest of the ship..
Søren petersen thanks Soren, that was helpful😉
If you go to a machine shop and ask them to make that single piece, you'll probably pay through your nose. But in a place where they make stacks of them in all sizes and shapes, you might pay the scrap value and some hours for the guy.. Or even find one in their scrap yard where the only price you pay is them having a good time watching you trying to get it loaded in your car(o:
Søren petersen yeh, true. But consider my question in the context of THIS shop. Sure they can make one cheaper than the fab shop down the street. But, we have been doing business long enough now to where the company knows exactly how much a part costs them, labor costs, plant depreciation, etc.
It may look cheap to build because the operator makes it look easy, but he is using millions of dollars worth of equipment and years experience to make it so.
It wasn’t a trick question, but certainly bears some consideration..,
Fine workmanship...!
That's the biggest English wheel I've ever seen.
I dont have a Panel but if, I want this Guy to shape it.
09op
No Doubt/// That guy is old school
Is getting the sheet metal a heat treatment after the rolling Operation, to remove the tension in the material?
My thoughts exactly.....
Low carbon steel,so probably not.
No they eat it as it is.
Whatever you are paying that man it's not enough.
What saddle shape panel for?
Given the plate size, It could be component/detail part of the bow or stern .
Metal shaping in large scale , very common equipement use in a ship yard and industrial heavy . Metal fabrication facilities , metal sheets bending and planishing , cold rolled sheets has only .002 to 0.18 percent carbon depends on its application . nice viewing
Looks like a piece maybe for the bow area. Serious hydraulic power.
Looking at the frame numbers on the plate it goes in the stern section.
عمل رائع لاكني لا أفهم كيف تقوس المنتج باستخدام روله عدد اثنين فقط
Kareem DybXxxx
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Pretty much excellent job 😄
ok... they are doing it this way nowadays.. .but how the did it on Titanic? Or in the 1870's?
Gear driven machines with huge threaded rods instead of hydraulics.
@@derekcollins1972 How about steam driven? Gears don't have power they transmit power. :-))
@@taunteratwill1787 That's so true.I wonder if any tools ran being water powered as well?
@@derekcollins1972 England had a huge number of waterpowered sawmills, some of them were used for all the more heavy woodwork like the decks that was used on the Titanic. But i'm not aware of any steel works or factories that used waterpower in any way. Although steam is actually waterpower too.
A jolly big hammer with what we now know that the titanic was but with a subpar steel and not the original grade of iron plate as on the original drawings made. Plus the raging fire in the outside coal bunker. Generally though they used mechanical presses.
English wheel on steroids!! Big powerful machines. What's not to love?!?
The England wheel
But it would take a large compressor with 2/3 large cylinders of different diameters with many curvature functions (and compression if required) but with precise programs (for each physical passage of the sheet the result is established even before each passage), a software guide cad, but for each material the software changes.
Can I apply as welder in your company? Fcaw/mig, ang gtaw-smaw welder
No.
Ok thanks..
GOD bless us...
@@marlygalsia2473 Just kidding! You always can apply! :-))
Denied:(
One thing beckham can’t bend.
Wundermeister.
is it for pipe shoe?
Yes
You don’t have to be a high school grad to do this you have to have lots of common sense. And a great imagination
To do it, no, but to make the drawings you will need to be and that will give you much more money and a less boring job.
" great imagination
"? No, you stick to the drawing and measurements or you can go with your imagination. :-))
..why i cant see feminists doing such fine work as this gentleman..
You must be very frustrated about them to come up with this comment. Whahahahaaaaa!
And in only 8.44 minutes 😀👍 and it was a rush job as well looking at the chalk text on the plate
Hope he gets paid well
鬼斧神工 !這等師傅要列國寶級 !
I didn't know Michael Keaton enjoyed metal working.
🤩
These Russian workers are amazing.
You mean Dutch workers..
Почему на вальцах не крутануть?
Russians? Yeah that's right but they work in Russia not in the Netherlands. :-))
Im from the Netherlands
عمل دقيق جدا
Wih mantep nya
у нас кувалдой так сделают
Udanshonwane
Rajmistree
Creu-zabro
Aaadult,vidos
Zz
bekar
That guy knows his job!