BSA Goldstar 650 Review

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  • @andrewrymell1
    @andrewrymell1 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that. I ended up going for the GT650 over this, I just found the stickers on the engine casing (rather than the stamped casings on the Enfield) looked a bit cheap. The general fit/finish didn't seem to be as quite as good. That USB port on the handlebars... not for me, and the HUGE radiator looks out of place.
    But thank goodness we all like different things!! It would be a hellish boring world out there if we all rode the same thing!
    That said, if I was given one, I would still be very happy. :)
    If I did have a spare 8 grand going today though, that '74 Commando looks nice!

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wise words Andrew yes we are thankfully all different 👍🏻

    • @itsmeee7364
      @itsmeee7364 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thare is nothing cheaper than a plastic mudguard and side panel of gt650 and very cheap low quality ceat tyres

  • @ianhalliwell8604
    @ianhalliwell8604 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Got my black one on the 1st of March and love it. Being a big guy i did find the rear shocks a bit crashy on these awful Lancashire country roads so bought an upgraded pair from tec which have transformed the handling. Never let me down with the engine being so characterful, plus the local Lancashire dealer is spot on.

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great to hear you’re enjoying the bike and that Tec are supplying kit 👍🏻

  • @alvindavenport5657
    @alvindavenport5657 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’ve had my Interceptor for just over a year and about 4500 miles. I also have a 2005 BMW F650 CS that I’ve owned a little over 2 years. The BMW engine is similar to the BSA’s. Both are Rotax designs and have similar outputs. I find the low end torque of the BMW is softer than the Interceptor’s. Where the BMW outshines my Interceptor is at higher rpm. The Interceptor isn’t very happy at speeds over 70 mph, while the BMW is surprisingly comfortable. The engine doesn’t get any more vibey than it is at 55. Of course, the BMW is about 30-40 pounds lighter than the Enfield or BSA. That may afffect the comparison somewhat. Honestly, had both bikes been available for similar money, I may have chosen the BSA if for no other reason than the more extended valve adjustment intervals. The liquid-cooled BSA engine is a more modern design for, better or worse. I enjoyed your comparison.

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว

      Some interesting points thank you I’m glad you enjoyed 😊👍🏻

  • @manuelhaug4053
    @manuelhaug4053 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    This radiator is a „no go“ on a modern classic retro bike. For me it’s the RE all day long

    • @jamespegram8843
      @jamespegram8843 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ive not riden a bsa , but it just does not appeal to me its apparently has been designed more for looks than performance. I might be slightly bias as I have a Himalayan as a daily ride to work bike and a 650 gt continental as a weekend toy. And I'd bet the continental it would blow this queezy beeza into the weeds..

    • @manuelhaug4053
      @manuelhaug4053 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jamespegram8843 I totally agree. I also have am Himalayan as a winter/everyday bike and an Interceptor 650 as a weekend toy. Love both bikes and I will not change from the 411 to the 452 Himi as good as it may be. I just prefer the aircooled RE

    • @UncleWally3
      @UncleWally3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Based on pragmatics, I can live with the radiator. What I have a much harder time swallowing is the pinch-welded fuel tank - a side by side comparison with the original makes it it look like a cheap tin-toy.

    • @jamespegram8843
      @jamespegram8843 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@manuelhaug4053 👍

    • @splodge57
      @splodge57 ปีที่แล้ว

      🥱🥱🥱

  • @davidmacgregor5193
    @davidmacgregor5193 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    OK, Dave, that very test machine was sold recently for £5749 it had 461 miles on the clock, I visited Eddy's Moto to buy it only to be told it had been sold the day before I arrived. Kieran at Eddy's Moto managed to get me another pre-registered Legacy Edition with only 14 miles on the clock for £6299, I bought it there and then.

    • @hectorshouse7348
      @hectorshouse7348 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You know a bargain when you see it😀

  • @T30-z5w
    @T30-z5w ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nice bike but I opted for the W800. It’s air cooled set up is more classic for my liking. I picked up a used 2022 with hardly any miles for just under $6,000. I love the old British bikes style but with modern features like ABS and bright LED lamps.

    • @jimmyb4982
      @jimmyb4982 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That engine in the W800 is divine. Who gives a shit if it's not "fast".

  • @sidneydawe9937
    @sidneydawe9937 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Enjoyed this informative video. I have several 1960s Japanese motorcycles which I imported from California many years ago. I bought them for peanuts and a couple were free. They are now worth many thousands of pounds in the UK. I do prefer the US style high bars for comfort.

  • @christyrer9530
    @christyrer9530 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a great 30 minutes of interest and relaxation; thank you. This is a proper real world motorcycle in terms of price, performance and economy and one I would be proud to own.

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Chris appreciate those kind comments

  • @duncancleverley6366
    @duncancleverley6366 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent test thank you… it felt much more ‘real world’ than others I’ve watched. I’m very tempted to buy one.

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว

      I was well impressed with it for the price 😊

  • @Kaybe-i6f
    @Kaybe-i6f ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interceptor captures the old school riding and joy like I remember but the Gold Star still feels an asthmatic modern bike with a modern take on old style era biking. But that’s only my opinion!

  • @johnhelliwell2591
    @johnhelliwell2591 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rode both . Bought the BSA . took USB port off as soon as I got home . No big deal why the fuss . This engine twin cam and shims . Enfield is single cam and twiddling adjusters . I paid more for my BSA than the Enfield BUT it's worth the extra . Brembo . Alloy rims 4 valve head . Twin spark . Slipper clutch . And now ive changed the exhaust wota lovely sound .

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good for you John and yes a fantastic sound even with the stock pipe 😊👍🏻

  • @stevesanelli90
    @stevesanelli90 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    TBW to be honest, that abomination of a USB port would annoy the shit out of me as would the presence of the radiator. It has the name, not the history nor the engine. Royal Enfield for me everyday & everywhere 😉

    • @kevindarkstar
      @kevindarkstar ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree with you on the usb box, looks cheap and an after thought, and I believe that the plastic hinge is weak and will break over time, and I believe that the rad could have been better designed and more unobtrusive 😮

    • @ianhalliwell8604
      @ianhalliwell8604 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It did with me and i immediately chucked it in the bin.

    • @kevindarkstar
      @kevindarkstar ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ianhalliwell8604 I assume you mean the usb not the radiator 😂

    • @ianhalliwell8604
      @ianhalliwell8604 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Definitely the USB, the radiator you don't even notice it after a while, it is what it is

    • @tiggy2756
      @tiggy2756 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My Thruxton radiator is far more discreet ,yet it has to cool a 104 HP 1200cc lump ?

  • @chrispekel5709
    @chrispekel5709 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not sure if anyone else has mentioned it, but the engine and gearbox are the Rotax unit that was in the single cylinder GS650, F650 and the aprillia equivalents

  • @simonwalker7957
    @simonwalker7957 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I rode one back in February, decent bike but none to keen on the sound track, pulled well though as you say. I bought a new W800 Cafe for less than an Interceptor in the end, absolutely no regrets.
    Interesting that the dealer is offering free luggage and price match. Hmm. My Enfield/BSA dealer says they aren’t selling (he still has 12 in stock) and is also offering deals. On a brand new make/model that is telling I’m afraid.

  • @PhilipBallGarry
    @PhilipBallGarry ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you TBW. Before we chose the Classic 350 we looked at these briefly (especially as we ride two up most of the time). I have noticed a couple of improvements since the early bikes. One being the slimmed-down header on the production bikes which looks better. More recently, BSA seem to have fitted a different radiator cowl with side cheeks replacing the rather "cottage industry" folded steel affair. I did worry about the longevity of the original arrangement which didn't look particularly durable especially with rather thin paint on the edges. I might have a go on one in the spring.
    Nice CB250/400N outside Eddie's 😊 - I'll bet that's a staff bike.

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes a definite improvement on the bikes on show at NEC last year

  • @Ian-xt1mb
    @Ian-xt1mb ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There has been a number of ECU derived faults with the BSA. According to a BSA FB group.

    • @suesue5694
      @suesue5694 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All been solved now according to bsa owners. Any new bikes don't have the fault either obviously. Triumph bonneville for me over bsa or the interceptor. Royal enfield is a bargain though

    • @Stu-bw2fw
      @Stu-bw2fw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Interesting, returned to biking after decades! - Bought the RE350 Signals Classic - love it. Though took a test ride on the BSA - really liked the 30 minute burst along the city streets/bypass/country roads - a lot cheaper than Triumph (tried one years ago - felt at home!). Decision time next summer ...

  • @oldgeezerproductions
    @oldgeezerproductions ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If the Goldstar was a 360 degree vertical twin, looked and sounded somewhat like the 650 BSA's of my youth, I'd be tempted, otherwise I'm very happy with my smooth running RE INT 650 that closely reminds me of my beloved TR 650 of the late 60's.

    • @zedcharlie
      @zedcharlie ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are both similar. Bsa better comfort for me. 6ft 4.

  • @andrewdyson4255
    @andrewdyson4255 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Morning Dave, I like the proper front mudguard with a decent length to it. I think the gearing of the BSA with 5 gears will account for the difference in pull. I like the look from the exhaust side but not the other. So the jury is out for me at the moment. That said it’s a boring world where everyone likes the same thing.

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely pal I know they’re not for everyone but it just hit the spot for me 😊👍🏻

    • @alandavies55
      @alandavies55 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agree about the mudguard. Every newish bike I have had for some years has had to have a mud flap added to keep the crap off the engine.

  • @davidskaggs9914
    @davidskaggs9914 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ive never seen a BSA in the USA that wasn't in a motorbike museum. You get a lot for the money for sure. 12v and USB ports too🎉

  • @chriscrookson8524
    @chriscrookson8524 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Didnt know Eddie's was now in Taddy. Is he still in Shipley? I remember when Eddy sold 2nd hand spares from his terraced house, just off Burley Road in Leeds, in the days before he opened up on Kirkstall Road. He's certainly had his ups and downs over the last 50 years but it's great to see he's still trading!
    Not seen the BSA yet here in N.Thailand but the Enfield 650's are getting popular. But i do love singles , and I ride a Yamaha SR 400, which does sound a little like a BSA!

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No Chris the Shipley branch closed down….just in Taddy now

  • @rickh8380
    @rickh8380 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That is a fine looking bike Dave. I prefer it over the Royal Enfield. The engine just looks and sounds much better to me. I would spend the extra money for it. Hope you don't ban me from your channel for saying nice things about the BSA. 😄 Thanks for taking me along on your ride and review. Be safe bud. Cheers

  • @paulirving989
    @paulirving989 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love the Super dream outside Eddies there - probably the most ridiculed 250 back in the day when a 17'er could ride a 250 LC on L plates 🙂- Rather a nice classic now though.

    • @peterbartlett4082
      @peterbartlett4082 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My very first bike back in 1980, blue and rode through that Winter on L Plates, kept falling off the bugger initially but soon got the hang of things!

    • @simonwalker7957
      @simonwalker7957 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My second bike also blue, toured the Lake District on L plates too, Hardknot was a blast!

    • @oldguzziguy
      @oldguzziguy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes I had a red 400 in 78.
      My mates used to refer to it as a 'Wet Dream'😂

    • @markfranks1329
      @markfranks1329 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@oldguzziguySounds as if you had the 'porky' CB400T 'Dream'. I had the Superdream ie 400N in '80. I had a couple of mates who had RD400s and the CB never had any problems whatsoever in keeping up with them. It certainly wasn't wet.😄

    • @oldguzziguy
      @oldguzziguy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@markfranks1329 No. Mine was the Super dream. When I first saw it I thought it was the most beautiful bike I had ever seen! Now , I much prefer the looks of the earlier 'porkier' one! No accounting for taste!

  • @melfzs
    @melfzs ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A good looking bike Dave , I had my Interceptor for three years ,I enjoyed it but my 350 Classic is much more comfortable, but I've sat on the Gold star and the seat felt really comfortable , I must book myself a test ride as I like the single cylinder engines.
    Cheers Mel 🍻

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s definitely more comfortable than the interceptor with stock seat 👍🏻

  • @VFRMitch
    @VFRMitch ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Interesting alternative. RE are more customisable and for that reason my choice for now until I grow up 😬

  • @doughoffman9463
    @doughoffman9463 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Slipper assist clutch? Valve tappet adjust: shim/bucket or screw/locknut? Is a centerstand available for fitting?

  • @Beanerds
    @Beanerds ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Bigly , a very cool bike ! , they have nailed the looks almost perfectly .
    As much as I like the look , I will keep and love my Interceptor for many more years .
    These are a compliment to the RE 650cc rather than a competitor and I cant wait until they start to been seen here in Australia so we can be seen out and about together on rides .
    Price will be their biggest bug Bear , here in Australia , the base BSA is $13,000 where the base Interceptor is $10,990 , 2k will buy you lots of goodies .

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes price is a big factor in this part of the market

  • @rebornitsybitsy7515
    @rebornitsybitsy7515 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, I'll never forget my first bike, Honda AX1 250, absolutely amazing off road and on.

  • @kevindarkstar
    @kevindarkstar ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Oh yeah and no main stand, making chain and rear wheel maintenance more of a task 😉

  • @michaeljackson5914
    @michaeljackson5914 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Take a look at the v7 850 special or stone

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m trying to get my hands on the special as it really appeals to me

    • @colindebourg9012
      @colindebourg9012 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@thebingleywheelerA mate of mine has just got an 850 Special and loves it in blue.

  • @CR4ZYHOR5E
    @CR4ZYHOR5E ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Pretty cool that it comes with a foldable picnic table for those...oh no wait, that’s the radiator

  • @benschofield7565
    @benschofield7565 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's certainly grown on me. The Interceptor definitely has a better looking engine, and seems slimmer/taller, but the Gold Star has a lovely stocky/squat stance. Hopefully there'll be more models in the foreseeable!

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The extra “meat” is what appealed to me 👍🏻

  • @paulelliott6655
    @paulelliott6655 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I do think the royal enfields are great bikes but they have been reviewed to death on youtube. The gold star is a more interesting proposition at the moment. Although I did see a review intimating that it wouldn't pull a boy scout off your granny but that is opposed by several other youtubers. Enjoyed this Dave. Thank you

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Paul….it would have to be a very sticky Boy Scout! 😂

    • @stuartloader4672
      @stuartloader4672 ปีที่แล้ว

      How many reviews do people have to watch... Remember the days when we got our bums off the sofa and tried one ourselves!!!

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @stuartloader4672 you mean like I did….so others that don’t have an opportunity can enjoy the experience vicariously 👍🏻

  • @neilrichardson3986
    @neilrichardson3986 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hoping and waiting for BSA SCRAMBLER 🤞

  • @ludo9234
    @ludo9234 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rarther have a B31 any day.Then again a love riding my 1961 AJS350.

  • @mickcresswell1031
    @mickcresswell1031 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review, Dave. This bike is growing on me and, like you, I think it looks better than the Interceptor. I do hope the aftermarket world come up with a solution for the radiator, as that is the only thing that jars - come on Techbikeparts!! (triumph made a much better job on the current bonneville range). Great review!!

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cheers Mick yes Tec could have a challenge on their hands 😊👍🏻

  • @richardbanks7932
    @richardbanks7932 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Really interesting review mate. I can't help but feel the goldie is the bike that the new bullet should have been.

  • @Adam_Adam_Adam_Adam
    @Adam_Adam_Adam_Adam ปีที่แล้ว +16

    As far as looks go, the interceptor is much better looking for me.

  • @martinowl
    @martinowl ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A great review, haven’t ridden one yet, so can’t pass comment. Not bad looking but I still prefer the looks of my Interceptor, especially in black. It’s good to have the choice though.

  • @philmuskett265
    @philmuskett265 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fine array of cracking classics at Eddy's.

  • @williamnethercott4364
    @williamnethercott4364 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've seen some reviews where they think the Interceptor is better looking than the BSA but I agree with you. Its certainly clear that you liked it. Also good to see some of my dream machines at Eddy's (G80, Red Hunter to name but two) - a nice touch to put them in the video.

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They have some stunning classic bikes 😊👍🏻

  • @pauleckett6713
    @pauleckett6713 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Such a shame its not air cooled, also engine castings could of been better finnished same with exhaust. Im afraid the radiator kills it for me looks like a barn door.

    • @stevetaylor8698
      @stevetaylor8698 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Although the Interceptor isn't truly air cooled and relies on an oil radiator for cooling.

    • @adityan3208
      @adityan3208 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@stevetaylor8698 it's made to work in india, It'd get too hot here without an oil cooler

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว

      Could have been better will always apply to any bike 👍🏻

    • @splodge57
      @splodge57 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Radiator hasn't stopped sales of Kawasaki Z900rs.
      Let's see if RE owners will moan about it on the new Himalayan.😂

  • @chrisrice983
    @chrisrice983 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can see the Gold Star being the 3rd bike in the Bingley Wheeler garage?!!🤔😉

  • @stevecoppin4278
    @stevecoppin4278 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good Morning Dave , Wow that was a very interesting video especially from a RE die hard fan , i must admit that was a brilliant review tbf , i watched silver fox travels last week on the same bike & he said it wasn't a bike for him , so ride safe mate till the next time

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Steve I loved the BSA it ticks all my boxes

  • @hectorshouse7348
    @hectorshouse7348 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was that a Honda superdream in the background?

    • @simonwalker7957
      @simonwalker7957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I spotted that too, I had a blue 250 as a teenager, pretty bike still. A mate down the road had the CBX, flash git😊

    • @hectorshouse7348
      @hectorshouse7348 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simonwalker7957 memories eh…I had 2 supedreams in silver…you had to thrash the 250 to get anywhere. First off I had the Suzuki 250 x7 in red…that spoiled me for speed in the 250 stakes

  • @tonygreenbank8611
    @tonygreenbank8611 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I went to look at one at Eddies about 2 years ago. I thought the finish was shocking! The welding on the frame looked like I'd done it, and I'm not a welder. But the one thing that sealed it was the BSA plastic transfers on the timing & clutch chests. I did think at the time that they could have got Rotax to get them either acid etched or milled. You stated the the finish had been improved so I presume these items have been addressed.

    • @markjefferson9799
      @markjefferson9799 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bsa always had transfers of crossed rifles

    • @ianhalliwell8604
      @ianhalliwell8604 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Transfers are a deal breaker, wow you really are picky

    • @tonygreenbank8611
      @tonygreenbank8611 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes!!!@@ianhalliwell8604

    • @tonygreenbank8611
      @tonygreenbank8611 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes but not on the hot engine pushrod tube.@@markjefferson9799

    • @soupdragon5555
      @soupdragon5555 ปีที่แล้ว

      2 years ago?

  • @tonywilliamson4512
    @tonywilliamson4512 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good coverage thy knows,
    Was at Eddies last week great selection and very friendly if a little hectic when I was there as it was rammed with out going sales.but I will back to see the BSA and test ride I think.

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes they’ve got some cracking stock 👍🏻

  • @nealeburgess6756
    @nealeburgess6756 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great looking bike. My only criticism is the rear mudguard looks a bit large fron the side, and the number plate a bit low.
    I was interested in your observations about the torque availble. I have never ridden a large single. But I do like to short shift, changing up at low revs, when on a bike with good low down power

  • @richardclegg7846
    @richardclegg7846 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you get more out of it if had a power commander, pro mapped, K&N filter and a pipe that breathes better?

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว

      May be so….lot of effort for small reward though

    • @richardclegg7846
      @richardclegg7846 ปีที่แล้ว

      @thebingleywheeler did the same with my 2009 T100 Bonneville and it made a massive difference tbh

  • @highspeedboom
    @highspeedboom ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah that’s a good looking bike, i wish someone would make a bike like this with true chrome wheels, spokes, front and rear fenders, exhaust, shocks, fuel tank, handle bar, with polished aluminum engine. 👍

  • @mikehurley5052
    @mikehurley5052 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That rear rack looks like something from 1970 but you need that to carry tubes and tools for puncture repairs.

  • @markwoodhouse7035
    @markwoodhouse7035 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Dave,Could this be the 3rd bike in the wheeler stable?,as ever informative review.😊

  • @adriancope9086
    @adriancope9086 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s the service intervals , having to service an RE every 2.5k is a ball ache for me, with the dealer 45 miles up the motorway that ain’t no fun on the tiny meteor. Nice review 👍

  • @JohnSmith-xw5qe
    @JohnSmith-xw5qe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can’t agree with you Dave on the looks department RE is in my opinion a better looking bike I can’t judge the BSA on its handling as I’ve never ridden one so my judgement is strictly on looks & sound! I like the single thump thump sound of the BSA But put a good set of after mkt pipes on the Interceptor & we’re talking a far better bike! Nothing against BSA & I wish them success But it’s RE For me! Good honest review buddy!

  • @alastairday8451
    @alastairday8451 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've spent a couple of hours on the BSA and i thoroughly enjoyed it. If it's faster than a RE Interceptor then the Interceptor must be mighty slow?

  • @-old-school-motorcyclesltd
    @-old-school-motorcyclesltd ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes Dave you’re a bit late but glad you’ve had a go😊😊
    Love my Legacy and don’t care about other negative comments until you’ve ridden it 😊😊
    I heard all the negative comments before but don’t bother me 😊😊
    The centre stand is a little draw back but it’s all fine, the charging usb box … so what you know it’s soon forgotten about I’ve only used it once and it can be changed any time any one wants 😊😊😊
    Great to see you riding it and a great review 😊!!
    bought mine from Eddys 😊😊😊
    100% the gearbox on the interceptor doesn’t need 6 gears too close together to me😊
    The free luggage 🧳 well can’t go wrong £600 worth should have waited myself lol 😂

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cheers Phil really glad you are enjoying your Goldstar and yes it really needs to be ridden before being dismissed

  • @martinowl
    @martinowl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At Squires, Tuesday morning? Thought you looked familiar, lol.

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes you should’ve said Hi I’d have stood you a brew 👍🏻

    • @willyrackham2957
      @willyrackham2957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looks good sounds good and seems to go very well virtually every box ticked ...no centre stand ? Is there an aftermarket version ?

    • @martinowl
      @martinowl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The penny didn’t drop till you were getting sorted to leave.🤔lol. I was wondering if it was a test ride for the channel or personal consideration? Anyway I was eating a pasty! It wasn’t a bad day for a ride.

  • @denlsgoulden2307
    @denlsgoulden2307 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's got it's work cut out if it's gonna beat the Interceptor, time will tell eh 😊

  • @MrJpb2000
    @MrJpb2000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having talked with the new BSA Goldstar owners the last few Months, they end up envying my Interceptor whilst I envy their Goldstar!
    Pros and Cons with both bikes and always walk away feeling happy with the Interceptor! The only thing which I do like more is the pillion comfort with the lower exhaust. On that very subject I have noticed that the down pipe on the BSA’s have all suffered that of the same discolouring but these are something which could be replaced over time.
    BSA owners have also mentioned that side wind is almost unnoticeable on the motorways which is a big plus but I can only go on what I’m told.
    😎

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you some very interesting points there

  • @Grahamvfr
    @Grahamvfr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good watchable review thank you. My subjective opinion, is the interceptor is/was priced for what is.. The Bsa has an arbitrary nostalgia hike to its price. Prefer a twin, as I'm more 60s/70s era than 50s/60s. Cheers Dave.

  • @DiveTrainerDan
    @DiveTrainerDan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think I like the int650 a little better. Though the stock exhaust on that bsa looks a lot better than the stock int650.

  • @bally632
    @bally632 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Think it really suits you,more so than the super meteor.Think you should buy one and it might boost your viewings people following your journey with it and what and if any problems you encounter 😀

  • @venkatas279
    @venkatas279 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi,
    Does BSA GOLD STAR has more vibrations than a RE Interceptor?

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not really

    • @venkatas279
      @venkatas279 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thebingleywheeler Inam confused between the RE 650 interceptor and BSA 650 GS. I prefer less vibration and easy handling

  • @Stephen_Martin
    @Stephen_Martin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was that a Honda CB125 twin in the background, My first bike in the 70S.. Excellent content, Keep the vids coming.

  • @sanjaysharma-jf8fv
    @sanjaysharma-jf8fv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a Bullet 500 & the Intrcptr 650. Can understand exactly how you find this bike different from the intrcptr..
    For me, Bsa & Triumph are a breed apart. Even the 400 Speed that Triumph has introduced sits apart..espl looks and ride feel

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope the new 400s ride as good as they look 😊👍🏻

  • @splodge57
    @splodge57 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Legacy edition looks great and I like the idea of a 650 single but then I'm not a RE owner.😂😂😂

  • @joedudz
    @joedudz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is definitely a better looking bike that the Interceptor. Having ridden the Interceptor I was underwhelmed and I'm not a power mad rider. I like the idea of the BSA being a single too.

  • @dannyvan5792
    @dannyvan5792 ปีที่แล้ว

    wath about the elekt problems whit the royal enfield 650 seen on you tube

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว

      What about them? No problems with any of my Enfields

  • @welshpiper62
    @welshpiper62 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been looking at loads of RE Intercepter videos this week a friend suggested I look at this gold star but that dam exhaust just don't do it for me looks fat and sticks out from the videos I've seen at the mo the interceptor is getting my vote. Thanks for the video.

  • @JMoroccoMisterBoy
    @JMoroccoMisterBoy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mr. TBW :
    From a ..... Distance ..... Looks Good ..... I remember BSA's ..... From the Early Seventies in my Early Twenties ..... I'll stick with R.E.:
    Tks., much appreciated.

  • @Grumpy-Goblin
    @Grumpy-Goblin ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I do like the new Gold Star I think it is a shame they let it down on the very small finishing touches like the BSA badge on the engine case being a sticker rather then having it moulded in and the same on the filler cap. Only tiny things that would have just lifted the felling of quality for a very small cost. I'd still like to see someone cutomise one as a 60's Cafe Racer though I think it would look great.

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the quality will evolve

    • @Grumpy-Goblin
      @Grumpy-Goblin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thebingleywheeler I hope so, I think overall they did a great job and I am being really nitpicky but it is those little details that make the difference as Royal Enfield have learnt.

  • @hiddenmortimer5189
    @hiddenmortimer5189 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If only RE would make the exhaust look like that on the BSA, it would look so much better.

  • @flyinghedgehog3833
    @flyinghedgehog3833 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had a 5 quid moped in 60's Oakworth,couldn't afford much more...anyway retired in Malaysia ,can afford a real bike now! Any suggestions welcome thanks...5'10 75kg 33" in seam...or am I dreaming? Ohh its 28-34C year round :)

  • @jlrutube1312
    @jlrutube1312 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the BSA a lot. One thing I like is that you could put normal saddle bags or such without the pipes being in the way. On the interceptor the pipes sweep up and so are totally in the way. You can still put bags on it but they have to be really high up and thus, to me, they look silly. Also on classic bike the wheels were usually chrome. On the Interceptor the wheels are painted black and I think it looks terrible. Also not fond of the cheap black plastic fenders on the Interceptor. Also the seat on the BSA looks very comfortable and everyone says it is. On the other hand, most people say that the stock seat on the Interceptor is like riding on a piece of lumber. Also, I personally prefer liquid cooled engines. They tend to last somewhat longer because cool running engines last longer than air cooled or air and oil cooled engines. In spite of all that I would probably make my decision between Interceptor or the BSA on which is best for long highway riding at somewhat fast speeds. Might still go with in Interceptor then although everyone says the BSA has a really good balancer making it surprisingly smooth even at highter speeds.

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว

      To be fair both bikes smooth out in the higher revs 👍🏻😊

  • @jayakrishnanp9875
    @jayakrishnanp9875 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Waiting for its launch in India

  • @duncanblanchard334
    @duncanblanchard334 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice bike for sure, the chain looks tricky to get at for lubrication operations but still, it’s a pretty machine.

  • @JustPlainCommonSense
    @JustPlainCommonSense ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great looking bike. Not a fan of the radiator though. Waiting for them to come to the USA

  • @stevenmiller184
    @stevenmiller184 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the look of this bike, I have a RE 500 classic and the sound of a single is music to me. I like how they have gone for a straight peashooter exhaust.. I owned a 650 Int. and the upswept pipes didn't appeal to me at all, the riding position of the 650 was uncomfortable to me, the acute angle of the knee didn't work, I was constantly got tangled in the pegs at a stop and the bars were too far forward and gave me a backache. I sold that bike. That radiator. That Goddam radiator. Could they not hide it better? That thing looks like it could cool a 15 liter diesel truck engine, overkill for a 650 single. All of this is probably irrelevant for me here in the States, I doubt this bike will make it here for me to test ride or see.

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You make some good points Steve and maybe the bike will evolve just as the Interceptor did 😊👍🏻

    • @stevenmiller184
      @stevenmiller184 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is SO close! @@thebingleywheeler

    • @chrispekel5709
      @chrispekel5709 ปีที่แล้ว

      I could be wrong, but I think the radiator must be large to keep temps down so the ECU doesn't run rich and kill emissions requirements

    • @stevenmiller184
      @stevenmiller184 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe you are right, it's just unfortunate how little attempt was made to integrate it into the shape of the bike. @@chrispekel5709

  • @mred7030
    @mred7030 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    most enjoyable video ta .

  • @briangc1972
    @briangc1972 ปีที่แล้ว

    The reason the BSA single cylinder 650 feels like it has more power under 4000 rpm is because the fewer the cylinders, the more the lower end torque. A single cylinder engine of a given cc and HP will have more low end torque than a twin cylinder of similar size and HP. A twin of a given cc and HP will have more torque than a V4 of the same cc and similar HP. More cylinders generally equates to more HP in the higher RPM range but lower torque in the under 4000 RPM range.
    Royal Enfield should be replacing their air cooled 650 this next year with a liquid cooled 650 as they just introduced their liquid cooled 450 in the last month. Both RE and BSA are doing consumers a great favor in providing reasonably priced, high quality products.

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes some good points…..let’s see what RE pull out of their hat next! 😊👍🏻

  • @srileo
    @srileo ปีที่แล้ว

    What jacket is the reviewer wearing? Looks great!

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Merlin Edale wax cotton vintage jacket…superb

  • @weemark67
    @weemark67 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do like these. The new black, Mmm not sure, but cheaper price, will tempt a few buyers, I guess.
    I sat on one at the Scottish show, back in March.
    As I said my small leggies, barely touch the ground.
    So would need it lowered, for sure.
    It’s 3 hour ride to Edinburgh as I would take coast road, and ride through Fife. But am planning to visit the dealerships in Edinburgh.
    Thanks again for your video.
    WeeMark67.😊

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you and you’re most welcome

    • @Stu-bw2fw
      @Stu-bw2fw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They have a test bike ... and the road show dropped by a few weeks back.

  • @morrisminor56
    @morrisminor56 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good road test, like the look and sound of the BSA but can't stand the look of the engine with all that plumbing. Never knew Eddys was full of classic bikes.

  • @derekm6236
    @derekm6236 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A good video, but not keen on the bike; far too chunky, compared with the original Goldie Clubman which appears to be the style it was based on. Looks a bit like a retro bitza to me! I think they've overpriced it too, when an Interceptor can be had for £5800 on the road (Kieran's offer in June, matched by my local dealer, but also offered by others ) and there's a shedload of good admittedly modern machines from long established companies, in the same price range.

  • @AliasMrHackenbacker
    @AliasMrHackenbacker ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review, I think I will track down a BSA dealer with a demo bike and try it out. Would you say the foot pegs are lower and the seat more comfortable than the Interceptor? Potential 3rd bike for you?😂

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well definitely more comfortable than the stock interceptor for me….time will tell 😁

  • @robertmaitland09
    @robertmaitland09 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rear light looks like it slid down the mudguard.

  • @trevortrevortsr2
    @trevortrevortsr2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry, but alongside the RE Meteor, it looked a bit of a dog's dinner - The radiator, the naff plastic fuel injection cover, and the cringe fake pushrod tunnel & what are the cases made of? The foot brake and gear changes look like they were taken off a tractor - Sure it is faster but looks iffy

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว

      @trevortrevortsr2 have you ridden one then?

    • @trevortrevortsr2
      @trevortrevortsr2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thebingleywheeler I guess you're more interested in trying to undermine the commenter than the content

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s a no then 🤣

  • @vishnumohannair8506
    @vishnumohannair8506 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is a "not RE" bike. That is the issue I have with, it doesn't tug at my heart or my wallet. But for me RE is an emotion

  • @SynapticGap
    @SynapticGap ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Opening sequence:- is this your subtle hint that the fans of the faux Goldstar may be cattle? 😂 😂
    🐮 😂 👍

  • @jameswaterhouse-brown6646
    @jameswaterhouse-brown6646 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me thinks I would enjoy riding one of these.

  • @keithralfs5190
    @keithralfs5190 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where are they made ?

  • @daweshorizon
    @daweshorizon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Be prepared for warranty claims on the new Goldie. Electrics and gearboxes appear to be an issue. From what I've heard from the trade.
    Personally, I think that radiator is plug ugly and detracts from the classic look. I will test ride a Goldstar, but the Interceptor sets a high bar for this style of bike. Open minded however. I'll let you know. Love and peace.

  • @chrisweeks6973
    @chrisweeks6973 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice one, Dave! I like this new BSA, even it's not really a Bits Stuck Anywhere, though with those stickers, the USB and 12V outlet, they seem to have made a fair effort! 😂Think I'll stick with my recently-acquired '05 Moto Guzzi Breva 750 for now - if I don't my missus will rightly give me hell, as it's the 4th bike in 18 months! - and I would recommend that you try the Guzzi V7 850 Special; I reckon you'll like it a lot. 👍

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Guzzis are ace I love the Griso and the new V7 special

  • @davericketts9101
    @davericketts9101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lot to like, particularly the power delivery, compared to some. It is a Marmite bike, with some loving the looks and others hating it. For me, it`s a no go because of the radiator that looks like it belongs on a Ford transit and the exhaust as fat as a Scania truck, at the engine end. Shame because, apart from those two eyesores, it would look gorgeous.

  • @deepwoods_dave7368
    @deepwoods_dave7368 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a 1964 BSA Lightning Rocket. 650 parallel twin. Don’t know why they put radiators on these types of bikes. Air cooled all the way!

  • @nickaxe771
    @nickaxe771 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rode test one in the summer.....I was very disappointed....boring as hell......sound like a young lads 125 as well.
    I am a BSA man and was hoping it would put the BSA Brand Name Up In Lights.....but it wont sadly.
    At 7k its wayyyyy over priced.

  • @markfranks1329
    @markfranks1329 ปีที่แล้ว

    Entertaining and informative as always, Dave. Great review of a class of bike that's proving so popular right now. This is, as you rightly say, a fine homage to a model that has great prestige amongst those that remember the original. If this bike is seen that way, that's fine but I can't help but feel there are those out there in the community that have been seduced into thinking they're riding a real British bike. Take your rose tinted specs off. You're not. It's designed in Britain, ok that gets one tick but presently there are no other ticks. It's assembled in India and is powered by an engine originating from Austria. Sorry, but this bike is about as British as Beef Stroganoff. 'Made in England' is something so special to me and this bike and REs don't qualify. I'm really sorry if that offends but that's how I see it.
    Buy this bike to ride and give great pleasure in ownership, and I sincerely wish those contemplating this machine many happy miles and years of stewardship.
    That little tour at the end? Now, that's real Brit Iron!😊
    Looking forward to seeing this bike in your garage soon, Dave.🙂👍

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Mark…. Remember though that the modern Royal Enfield is about as British as a chicken buna 😂

    • @markfranks1329
      @markfranks1329 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thebingleywheeler 😄👌

  • @edwardwest5035
    @edwardwest5035 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a good comprehensive review, Dave. Regards Edward.

  • @johnf9614
    @johnf9614 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ugh that radiator. I can see if there's no other bikes without one but there are companies rocking true air cooled these days so no reason to have that garbage on there. Thanks RE for keeping it traditional

  • @ravitejabommakanti
    @ravitejabommakanti ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking proper retro 👌

  • @drewiediggler1
    @drewiediggler1 ปีที่แล้ว

    They need to get rid of the grey finish on the engine casings. Looks like Hammerite paint. Spoils a really nice bike.

    • @thebingleywheeler
      @thebingleywheeler  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      On the legacy model they are polished metal not the grey paint 👍🏻

    • @drewiediggler1
      @drewiediggler1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thebingleywheeler sorry i meant the crank/gearbox casings etc rather than the polished outer covers. Looks a durable finish though at least 🙂