@@BackMacSci i think youd enjoy some room temp quantum locking, yes? Get a couple magNets so you can catch a view of something new. .. Soo you’ll need something like a rotary tool/dremel or what have you to do the spinning. Attach the one magnet to the tip of the dremel (or to a bit of some sort. I like using a legit form of uv “glue” or 5second something or other. Basically the stuff used for dental sealants. Anyways the high speed twirly birding gets thjngs on lock and thus you will now get that hover lock magnet coolness. Best instruction number one ! • now see how your twirly bird magNEAT’o! Generator feeleds when it pokes at our xenon halo. Feel good? How are the feeleds? Of good nature and yields? Powerful feel generators for sure.
@@BackMacSci 9:03 i think y'all have a good enough understanding of electrical safety, but having the deadfront off of that circuit panel is dangerous. That dead front stops shrapnel, plasma, and liquified/vaposized metal from escaping the panel in the event of an arc blast, and even though you don't have expose busbar in there, those two lugs at the top have no protection. I'm not trying to insult your grasp on safety but it's just important for me to mention it since I work in the field.✌😁
The behavior in the field of the neodymium magnet seems to indicate a steady circular current in the toroid. I wonder if it is related to the varying strength of the oscillating field that you demonstrated with the initial exciter coil and the small gas tube. Excellent and inspiring work, thank you for sharing the adventure.
Have you tried checking for UV/IR emissions spectra of the ring? I’m curious if there are emissions from the low density Xe beyond our visible spectrum, similar to how astronomers used to think Nebulium was a separate element only for it to later be discovered that it was doubly ionized space Oxygen. Awesome video!
You would need a spectrum analyzer that has a wavelength range required to cover the full plasma output spectrum. Maybe a local university. I bet their physics department would love to see a demonstration of your device and would make the measurements for free to satisfy their own curiosity. If I were them, I’d offer you a scholarship.
@@derrelllipscomb693 this. Of course if he isn't already enrolled. Any university would be lucky to have a kid that has demonstrated this level of hands on knowledge, teamwork, dedication & enthusiasism
When I saw your first toriod video I was astounded, I showed your videos to my friend and he said it looked fake. I am so glad to see this, its crazy how apparently basically no one knew how to do it either
You got it in you my man. I'm 52 years old now. I pray you and other young-n's change the world for better. We need lot's of smart young men and women like you in this world now. Good luck and be safe.
Just finished my third semester as an electrical engineer and this has inspired me. Very very very cool application of an LC circuit. Can't wait to see how this idea can expand.
I love it when I'm lucky enough to find a channel while it's this young. As long as you enjoy making videos, keep doing it please. You've got the youtuber touch already, you're gonna get big! Fantastic work and sticktuitiveness on this project my man
Great video! Dont worry-- never thought you were dumb! It's the persistence that's more important anyway! You got that, and you're going to go far in life because of it!
that "maybe one day I'll be as good as the Russians" line had me laughing 😂 I'm from St. Petersburg Polytechnic University (Russia), studied abroad a bit, and I can tell you that Russian school (which is basically remainders of a greater Soviet system) produces some of the brightest engineers in electric and plasma fields of science. (btw, "tokamak" is a Russian acronym - ТОроидальная КАмера с МАгнитными Катушками) a bit confusing seeing my fellow putting such a paywall, but hey, he gave enough explanations for you to successfully reproduce the device :) kudos to you for taking the inspiration and putting together a great video! you should fix your camera focus though 😅 i miss this spirit of sharing knowledge freely, like it was in USSR. thank you
I see this channel becoming one of those well known science explainer channels. Up there with Veritasium, Vsauce, Hank Green, and many others. Electrical engineering is one of those subjects that is so, so fascinating and enthralling to watch but something I always feel overwhelmed by when I try to study it myself. I know it's just practice and focus but it still escapes my ADHD ridden brain. So I'm always glad when someone comes along that helps me understand it just that little bit more. Keep up the fantastic work. I saw that you have a Patreon in the video but missed the link in your dooblydo. I hope you have great success and keep up the fantastic work!
I can't believe you found these guys! I read through their old blog again and again a few years back, before they rebranded to a shop. When i actually get my ass around to glass blowing and messing around with plasma globes, theyll be a huge part of what inspired me. Kinda sad that they no longer do the blog, but understandable i guess. Small world moment!
@@bottlekruiser yeah, TH-cam has a nasty habit of eating legitimate links, but allowing bots to get away with it. I've given up posting any links at this point.
@@bottlekruiser 📍🤨CENSORSHIP🗝🐦 its all about the channel. I allow links on my channel. I also do not censor and have a no fly list of words. By default a bunch of censorship is checked in preferences. Very annoying. Also be aware auto delete is on a 10minute delay. Why? Im order to fool you into the belief that you accomplished your goal of communication with other humans/beings. Little do you realize youre being deceived. There is NO actual good reason for the delay. It doesnt take 10minutes of hard work for the system to get things figured out. It knows instantly that you will be culled. Wiped away. Deceit FULLLL
Dude you killed it. im so glad i stumbled upon you this early. but you cant stop now. dude youre on the path to be the next science youtuber. you need to make another one... bigger, shaped differently, anything. one up your previous videos cause you have the knowledge and skills to bro. im hype for you congrats! Editing on point tooo
i commented before i saw the end of the vid lol IDEA The magnets affecting the ring was amazing. if you can make a rig the moves magnets on sticks on lil servo motors you can have an automatic dancing donut! even a video just experimenting with different magnets would be cool too :) If you can also build a base around the tech, you do have the perfect arc reactor prop. you can recreate the BOX OF SCRAPS scene with legos and your thing in the backround lol
Keep up the great work, young man! Never let your passion and curiosity die. Keep unraveling the magic of the universe and you will accomplish great things!!!
The next step up from a single toroid is to build the plasma squatter man. A toroid with polar vortices and a theta pinch in the middle. I have contacted the plasma physicist Anthony Peratt of Los Alamos plasma physics lab and his advice was that the squatter man is produced whenever a high voltage discharge occurs in a plasma. Usually very high voltage. He did not give me specific values.
You should definitely experiment with other noble gasses, some are relatively cheap and also it would be interesting using a function generator and experimenting with square or triangular oscillations
@@BackMacSci Many years ago there was a project in Scientific American's Amateur Scientist column on how to build an air laser. It was basically a linear spark gap that excited the nitrogen in ordinary air (at atmospheric pressure no less) to lase in the ultraviolet, no mirrors required. I'm wondering if it's possible to induce enough voltage in air using the coil trick to get the same effect the Russians did in the last video you mentioned (assuming it was real and not a spoof).
this kid taught me more about ionization and EM fields in 19 minutes based off a random Instagram post than a whole term of college level physics did damn, you're going places kid.
Excellently done, and what a great explanation, too! I just happened to find your video while researching plasma toroids at this scale after watching a video that James H @PlasmaFreak uploaded displaying his plasma toroid gun prototype. Can't wait to see the next major project you take on and upload!
This is incredibly awesome. I am not an engineer but I'd love to try it myself in the future. Thanks for sharing this process, I can have it as a reference now!
This was really cool. As for a video idea, maybe try making a toroid plasma inside a toroid shaped plasma bulb? That way you can experiment with adding foreign magnetic fields in the center of the plasma ring.
Very cool effect and great explanation. Also it would be interesting to test this with other gases like Argon, Neon or Helium for example. I will probably try something like that when I make my own version, I already got the key components:)
Awesome recap of the journey! As soon as I saw your first video showcasing the filament I immediately thought of how that could be adapted to the classic desktop fusor, and what if the secondary coil were made of HTS material like YCBO wire quenched in liquid nitrogen to achieve an even stronger magnetic field.
Just finished my EE degree and stumbled across this video. I really appreciate the documentation, might have a go at this & refine the electronics a lil!
subbed awhile ago not really know what you were doing but thinking it was cool. i had no idea you were literally defining a public method for making plasma torroids.
Great video, thanks for doing this project! An idea to confirm your hypothesis, find a higher harmonic of the frequency you use and see if the diameter of the toroid body shrinks by half
Incredible project, it’s heartwarming to hear the journey behind it. The visual effect by the diffraction glasses is spectacular! Kudos to you for making such a well put-together video too. Thank you.
I can't even begin to describe how inspiring this is. The passionate burning curiosity you felt when you first saw that TeslaCoilPro video, is what I felt when I first saw a video by you, "plasma toroid experimentation". For some reason I ended up on a whole journey researching how to build plasma discharge tubes, and came full circle finding the plasma toroid video by teslacoilpro, before really trying to figure out how to do THAT, and finally discovering that all along you had the answers! XD I am deeply sincerely grateful that you've taken the time to document this, so that a layman like myself who is on fire with a DIY maker-mindset can have a shot at doing this myself. Keep it up! Like a vacuum tube energized by a tesla coil, you're tapping into Infinite Intelligence and helping advance the human race forward!
man this was amazing. I don't know what the algorithm is doing but I'm all here for it! (recently started getting reccomendations for a bunch of smaller maker/science channels)
Cool! Next step: Use an hour glass shaped glasscylinder filled with Xe. Add two toroid genarators. One on top one at the buttom. Make sure everything is very stable, clue it together, etc. (That´s important!) Make sure both gemerators are providing independently a plasma toroid. Than add two cameras facing EACH toward one toroid only. Make realy sure that one camera observes really only one plasma toroid. Again: Important: Make sure that the camera is always at the same distance and has a good view on the observed plasma ring. Use A.I. for EACH camara, or better explained: Feed the two(!) A.I. models independently with one camera feed and the settings of the electronic. Teach the A.I. to change the electronic setting in such a way that the plasma ring is stable and has a perfect donat / toroid shape. Have fun! (And think about to rotate the hour glass by 90°, ..., think also to add some neodym magnets with a hole in the middel, think about using a glass tube instead of an hour glass shape tube, ... there are millions of modification possilbe...) Next step is than to add some more A.I., copper wires and electornic to "fire" each plasma toroid into the middle section of the hour glass at the same time so that they "join" / fuse together ... but aware the radiation. Keep track of this! Welcome in the world of a new fusion reactor approach.
You went after what you want and you got it! Well done! You found others that have the same interest! Very lucky! A night lamp on your desk is just a small reward compared to the cool experience you got!
The plasma’s reaction to the magnet resulting in a rotation is almost exactly what I have seen goofing around with an old CRT oscilloscope. Very neat. I would recommend you build one of David Lapoint’s magnetic bowl arrays (have access to a 3d printer?). It should show some compelling effects on the plasma due the the stress it causes on the local magnetic field. If you check out the Primer Fields video series on TH-cam you could probably figure out how to incorporate some of those ideas here. Great work!
@@BackMacSci with the right modifications a cheap ender 3 pro can serve as an excellent printer. I have 4 currently and I print around the clock almost. The files are out there for the magnetic bowl arrays, your just have to scale appropriately according to whatever magnets you have. David’s content is a rabbit hole and is extremely captivating for minds like ours which are seemingly fed by discovery and invention. Looking forward to more content. I’ll try to get on the discord you mentioned. I wouldn’t mind sharing some interesting things I have come across.
Well thanks, now I have to build one!!! Excellent video, super informative and love your journey, Really well done!!! For the record I like yours better and the way it bobbles around! Having been building tesla coils and an electrostatic inertial confinement fusor this is the next exciting build I have been waiting for. I live for these projects so a million thanks for the inspiration!!!
Any plans to test modulation of the oscillator to make the toroid dance around inside the globe? IIRC within the experiments, the toroid within an unstable state has been able to spin around its normal axis, and spin around non-normal axes, while also producing bends from the typical normal toroid. I remember commenting on a previous video about this movement, and the possibility of programming modulation to cycle through different movements to create a semi-stable display of the dancing toroid. I wish I had the equipment to do this myself, though I'd also have a massive backlog of other projects when I do get proper testing equipment, but I think getting the toroid to semi-stably dance around should be the next big step in the conceptual stages. After that, as I had also previously commented on, automating the starting sequence and re-starting sequence if the toroid ever destabilizes past no return, then working on the aesthetics of the unit; finding a more appealing globe, smooth top via filling and extraction through the bulb's neck, which _should_ work due to the disparity of gas densities, and possibly shortening the neck as much as possible, then making a nice enclosure for it, maybe with external control to switch between different modulation cycle presets. Hopefully Ukraine can build back what they've lost. Maybe in half a decade after things are over, experimentation has been done, and refinement has occurred, this could be the 20s/30s variant of plasma balls. I just really want to see an end goal of an aesthetic spherical-top lamp with a dancing plasma toroid, have it be the futuristic crystal ball of desk toys. Can't wait to see what this project eventually becomes, and what other projects you have in mind.
Don't know where you live but there are Makers projects in a lot of cities in the U.S. where you may find the equipment you are looking for for free use. I don't have one near me otherwise I would be there whenever I had free time! Which is never unfortunately... Oh yeah...good choice in music also!
Incredible job on this project! I would be very interested to see further experiments with significantly increased power. I wonder if it would result in a higher temp/density plasma or if the ring would get thicker, etc. This could have some interesting applications for fusors if it could get hot enough with deuterium gas.
I am excited for you bro. there is something about the soft glow of plasma that is so soothing. I am a sucker for that Cyan soft green glow!!! That is an amazing build my Friend, Thanks for showing, I am geeking out...lol!!!
Great Job! Will definitely look into trying this out! Have you tried other gases? It might not be very purple as the xenon generally emits a blue-white glow, while oxygen is more purple so it could be that your glass globe is too pure(?) Either way this looks amazing, have you tried any other gases like argon or neon or even deuterium? and do you know if it would be possible for a non-noble gas like deuterium? I'm just starting to get into plasma physics and this seems like a great hands-on project!
Thanks! It is a great hands on project. I haven't reallyyy considered deuterium but I could make it happen if everyone wants it to! And the "it" in "make it happen" is not referring to successfully creating a new desktop fusor but merely trying it LOL. Maybe I should try an identical vessel with hydrogen gas in it to start... a lot cheaper and probably a suitable proof of concept. But like i've told other people, one of the crucial parameters of this phenomenon seems to be using a fill gas with high molecular weight and can therefore form plasma filaments. And hydrogen has a very low atomic mass... i would like to try it with hydrogen and other gases either way though so you may get your wish!
I would like to see more magnet experimenting with the plasma donut , for example you could get a few of big ring shaped magnets out of some old car speakers and try putting one on the top and one on the bottom , also would be cool to see two oscilators , since you already mastered the high frequency oscilator I would love to see a HFSSTC plasma flame on your channel , I like the way you explain the proccess
Thank you! I would like to make one of those massive HFSSTC arcs for my desk too. I have another plasma toroid video coming out in January where I show more of my experiments!
Highly recommend you look at the papers from Ionel Dinu, Lori Gardi (Fractal Woman) and even Robert Distinti. It very much seems like we're getting ready to move into the next level of understanding of topics such as these.
Could you build a structure with strong magnets at the top of the xenon so that it stretches the toroid hight wise? It would be interesting to see how it affects it.
Amazing dude! such an achievement to back engineer, also my first thought after seeing it working is, i wonder if there is a way to audio modulate it, like have it dance or wiggle to music maybe even with just a speaker without the cone or electromagnet
omg its almost exactly what i was dreaming and thinking recently! i need this thing to be in my sound design studio!!! if it could twist the waveform accordingly to the sound input and chagne colors like nothern lights, it would be just hilarious!
Super cool! I'm by no means knowledgeable on electrical systems, but was curious if you thought the difference in voltage on each model was in part because of the us 60hz AC vs the euro 50hz power supplies?
Project idea - mount inductive coils around the lower part of the sphere and drive them with audio circuit to make magnetic fields that will force the plasma donut to move to some dope beats.
How about testing the setup with a regular "plasme ball" globe. A large glass bulb full of xenon is they only bit that's not very easy to acquire, but plasma balls are readily available globes(ish) vessels with Nobel gases in. Would make this a more achievable project for all If you can get in it to work. Different frequency or power levels or waveform shapes may be, but my educated guess says it should work with the right settings. Also great video, I'd love to make one myself.
Video Idea: take this to a school science day, it’s such a beautiful thing that I’m sure it will inspire many kids to become our next generation of fusion engineers and rocket scientists.
My hypothesis is the oscillating magnetic field causes induction in the plasma ring, and it forms a ring because that's the shape induction usualy causes in any conductive material, the fact that only plasma would get indused would confine it to more of a defined ring shape due to the edges of the ring being less conductive.
Well done that man! This is one of the coolest frequency experiments I've seen in years! I'm for sure building one next year! :D The "self containedness" of the plasmoid does something fundamental and potentially huge with how it plays and interacts with external forces. It *feels* alive and sentient to some extent, and perhaps this self containment itself is some basic fundamental requirement for some sliver of consciousness to embody the energy. Can't wait to experiment with this myself! Merry everything and keep at it brother.
Very nice work man, you gave the world an explanation for something nobody else has decently explained before. Well done!
Thanks Zach, I was second only to your explanation in the comment section😳
@@BackMacSci i think youd enjoy some room temp quantum locking, yes?
Get a couple magNets so you can catch a view of something new. ..
Soo you’ll need something like a rotary tool/dremel or what have you to do the spinning.
Attach the one magnet to the tip of the dremel (or to a bit of some sort. I like using a legit form of uv “glue” or 5second something or other. Basically the stuff used for dental sealants.
Anyways the high speed twirly birding gets thjngs on lock and thus you will now get that hover lock magnet coolness.
Best instruction number one !
• now see how your twirly bird magNEAT’o! Generator feeleds when it pokes at our xenon halo.
Feel good? How are the feeleds? Of good nature and yields?
Powerful feel generators for sure.
@@BackMacSci
9:03 i think y'all have a good enough understanding of electrical safety, but having the deadfront off of that circuit panel is dangerous.
That dead front stops shrapnel, plasma, and liquified/vaposized metal from escaping the panel in the event of an arc blast, and even though you don't have expose busbar in there, those two lugs at the top have no protection.
I'm not trying to insult your grasp on safety but it's just important for me to mention it since I work in the field.✌😁
@@BackMacSci That's amazing and before some years they start this with a sphere plasma inside a vodka bottle
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@@BackMacSci you can also make a sphere shape plasma ?
Excellent job!
Thank you! I am a fan of your experiments!
Would be interesting to see multiple coils with adjustable phasing between them
Would identical coils arranged as a Helmholtz pair lock the plasma ring in the center of the globe?
You could make some sort of plasma focused spot like they do with ultrasonic levitation but usinc coils switching at diferent frequencies
sounds like it would create a black hole
@@fireball75677 thats what im currently working on, all we need is resonance and dissonance😇
Hey one of my favorite youtubers popping up! we talked on whatsapp, good to see you enjoy good content hahaha!
The behavior in the field of the neodymium magnet seems to indicate a steady circular current in the toroid. I wonder if it is related to the varying strength of the oscillating field that you demonstrated with the initial exciter coil and the small gas tube. Excellent and inspiring work, thank you for sharing the adventure.
Have you tried checking for UV/IR emissions spectra of the ring? I’m curious if there are emissions from the low density Xe beyond our visible spectrum, similar to how astronomers used to think Nebulium was a separate element only for it to later be discovered that it was doubly ionized space Oxygen. Awesome video!
me too.
Oooo I like the way you think
Thanks for the suggestion. I need to look into how to measure the spectrum, but I would love to do that in a future video.
You would need a spectrum analyzer that has a wavelength range required to cover the full plasma output spectrum. Maybe a local university. I bet their physics department would love to see a demonstration of your device and would make the measurements for free to satisfy their own curiosity. If I were them, I’d offer you a scholarship.
@@derrelllipscomb693 this. Of course if he isn't already enrolled. Any university would be lucky to have a kid that has demonstrated this level of hands on knowledge, teamwork, dedication & enthusiasism
When I saw your first toriod video I was astounded, I showed your videos to my friend and he said it looked fake.
I am so glad to see this, its crazy how apparently basically no one knew how to do it either
Yeah! No one was talking about it and had replicated it!
What an awesome video!! super sick , and the Sam collab was so unexpected 🤣 Super sick brotha, really enjoyed this detailed video!
Really enjoyed the video! Good job brother, keep going!
Thank you teslaundmehr!
You got it in you my man. I'm 52 years old now. I pray you and other young-n's change the world for better. We need lot's of smart young men and women like you in this world now. Good luck and be safe.
Just finished my third semester as an electrical engineer and this has inspired me. Very very very cool application of an LC circuit. Can't wait to see how this idea can expand.
I love it when I'm lucky enough to find a channel while it's this young. As long as you enjoy making videos, keep doing it please. You've got the youtuber touch already, you're gonna get big! Fantastic work and sticktuitiveness on this project my man
Great video! Dont worry-- never thought you were dumb! It's the persistence that's more important anyway! You got that, and you're going to go far in life because of it!
that "maybe one day I'll be as good as the Russians" line had me laughing 😂
I'm from St. Petersburg Polytechnic University (Russia), studied abroad a bit, and I can tell you that Russian school (which is basically remainders of a greater Soviet system) produces some of the brightest engineers in electric and plasma fields of science.
(btw, "tokamak" is a Russian acronym - ТОроидальная КАмера с МАгнитными Катушками)
a bit confusing seeing my fellow putting such a paywall, but hey, he gave enough explanations for you to successfully reproduce the device :)
kudos to you for taking the inspiration and putting together a great video! you should fix your camera focus though 😅
i miss this spirit of sharing knowledge freely, like it was in USSR. thank you
hahah i'm glad somebody liked that joke! and i agree, russians and epic science go hand in hand
good job! we need as many people as possible exploring this stuff! time to get this understanding more generally known.
Thank you Josh! I want everyone's eyes on this phenomenon, too.
I see this channel becoming one of those well known science explainer channels. Up there with Veritasium, Vsauce, Hank Green, and many others. Electrical engineering is one of those subjects that is so, so fascinating and enthralling to watch but something I always feel overwhelmed by when I try to study it myself. I know it's just practice and focus but it still escapes my ADHD ridden brain. So I'm always glad when someone comes along that helps me understand it just that little bit more. Keep up the fantastic work. I saw that you have a Patreon in the video but missed the link in your dooblydo. I hope you have great success and keep up the fantastic work!
I can't believe you found these guys! I read through their old blog again and again a few years back, before they rebranded to a shop. When i actually get my ass around to glass blowing and messing around with plasma globes, theyll be a huge part of what inspired me. Kinda sad that they no longer do the blog, but understandable i guess. Small world moment!
Yeah i love their stuff
does youtube actually eat comments with links? the consider the above.
@@bottlekruiser yeah, TH-cam has a nasty habit of eating legitimate links, but allowing bots to get away with it. I've given up posting any links at this point.
@@bottlekruiser
📍🤨CENSORSHIP🗝🐦
its all about the channel. I allow links on my channel. I also do not censor and have a no fly list of words. By default a bunch of censorship is checked in preferences.
Very annoying.
Also be aware auto delete is on a 10minute delay.
Why?
Im order to fool you into the belief that you accomplished your goal of communication with other humans/beings.
Little do you realize youre being deceived.
There is NO actual good reason for the delay. It doesnt take 10minutes of hard work for the system to get things figured out. It knows instantly that you will be culled. Wiped away.
Deceit FULLLL
@@Coincidence_Theorist show me the setting so i can disable it on my channel too. Steganograph it, if you tneed
I think it would be really cool for you to build a farnsworth fusor. Replicating the most impactful discovery of the century
Not quite as good or impactful as the smell-o-scope but the fusor was still cool.
@@Jospec5Star alright, i agree. Mb
Dude you killed it. im so glad i stumbled upon you this early. but you cant stop now. dude youre on the path to be the next science youtuber.
you need to make another one... bigger, shaped differently, anything. one up your previous videos cause you have the knowledge and skills to bro. im hype for you congrats!
Editing on point tooo
i commented before i saw the end of the vid lol
IDEA
The magnets affecting the ring was amazing. if you can make a rig the moves magnets on sticks on lil servo motors you can have an automatic dancing donut!
even a video just experimenting with different magnets would be cool too :)
If you can also build a base around the tech, you do have the perfect arc reactor prop. you can recreate the BOX OF SCRAPS scene with legos and your thing in the backround lol
Thank you Brandon! I want to be a science youtuber too!
Been waiting for this!! If i can get me one of those globes im definitely making one. Thanks for all the detailed info!
You’re welcome! Post about it if you make it!
Awesome project! Thanks for sharing all your research and progress
Thank you Ponte, it's my pleasure. I want more people to know that this phenomenon exists! It's beautiful.
Keep up the great work, young man! Never let your passion and curiosity die. Keep unraveling the magic of the universe and you will accomplish great things!!!
The next step up from a single toroid is to build the plasma squatter man. A toroid with polar vortices and a theta pinch in the middle. I have contacted the plasma physicist Anthony Peratt of Los Alamos plasma physics lab and his advice was that the squatter man is produced whenever a high voltage discharge occurs in a plasma. Usually very high voltage. He did not give me specific values.
You should definitely experiment with other noble gasses, some are relatively cheap and also it would be interesting using a function generator and experimenting with square or triangular oscillations
agreed!
@@BackMacSci check my recent clip “Krypton Coupled Plasma” for a real challenge
@@BackMacSci Many years ago there was a project in Scientific American's Amateur Scientist column on how to build an air laser. It was basically a linear spark gap that excited the nitrogen in ordinary air (at atmospheric pressure no less) to lase in the ultraviolet, no mirrors required. I'm wondering if it's possible to induce enough voltage in air using the coil trick to get the same effect the Russians did in the last video you mentioned (assuming it was real and not a spoof).
I might cry if I can’t get this circuit to work. Wish me luck this weekend
Thanks for the inspiration! An electrically minded friend and I are attempting to follow your steps to make a unit for our desktops!
this kid taught me more about ionization and EM fields in 19 minutes based off a random Instagram post than a whole term of college level physics did
damn, you're going places kid.
Hahah thanks, I owe my college physics class some credit for sure
Great storytelling and presentation of this project - I look forward to future videos from you!
Excellently done, and what a great explanation, too! I just happened to find your video while researching plasma toroids at this scale after watching a video that James H @PlasmaFreak uploaded displaying his plasma toroid gun prototype. Can't wait to see the next major project you take on and upload!
Aw thank you Noire!!
This is incredibly awesome. I am not an engineer but I'd love to try it myself in the future. Thanks for sharing this process, I can have it as a reference now!
It's so awesome that you were able to put this together! I really want a pet torus for my desk.
You should! It’s easy to put together, you just need to get the globe which is expensive
This was really cool. As for a video idea, maybe try making a toroid plasma inside a toroid shaped plasma bulb? That way you can experiment with adding foreign magnetic fields in the center of the plasma ring.
Cool, I've seen teslacoilpro do that before!
Very cool effect and great explanation.
Also it would be interesting to test this with other gases like Argon, Neon or Helium for example.
I will probably try something like that when I make my own version, I already got the key components:)
I am french and i am facined how such excelment knowledge of foreign youtuber like you.
Awesome recap of the journey! As soon as I saw your first video showcasing the filament I immediately thought of how that could be adapted to the classic desktop fusor, and what if the secondary coil were made of HTS material like YCBO wire quenched in liquid nitrogen to achieve an even stronger magnetic field.
Just finished my EE degree and stumbled across this video. I really appreciate the documentation, might have a go at this & refine the electronics a lil!
The jank, off the cuff and raw exploratory content of this with the little bit of storytelling is just fantastic.
Aw, thank you Arsenio. I appreciate your attention to my style :)
Extremely helpful, keep it up! This feels like an important first-phase
Thank you!
Amazing! By the way. Your videos would really benefit from a microphone. A cheap lavalier mic is 10 bucks and hugely improves the sound.
Thank you!
I couldn't help but feel excited as well when you got the plasma torus.
Great video!
Thank you!! I'm glad you liked the story!
subbed awhile ago not really know what you were doing but thinking it was cool. i had no idea you were literally defining a public method for making plasma torroids.
Thanks for sharing this extraordinary journey. Can’t wait to watch every one of your uploads.
Thank you Chad! Welcome to BackMacSci
Great video, thanks for doing this project! An idea to confirm your hypothesis, find a higher harmonic of the frequency you use and see if the diameter of the toroid body shrinks by half
Incredible project, it’s heartwarming to hear the journey behind it. The visual effect by the diffraction glasses is spectacular!
Kudos to you for making such a well put-together video too. Thank you.
Thank you, I’m glad you appreciate the video quality. I can’t help but be a perfectionist when it comes to editing
Really great video! Saw your short about this a bit ago and I want to create one myself! Thank you for documenting your journey!
I'm so glad you liked it! And yay! Let me know if you need help.
I can't even begin to describe how inspiring this is. The passionate burning curiosity you felt when you first saw that TeslaCoilPro video, is what I felt when I first saw a video by you, "plasma toroid experimentation". For some reason I ended up on a whole journey researching how to build plasma discharge tubes, and came full circle finding the plasma toroid video by teslacoilpro, before really trying to figure out how to do THAT, and finally discovering that all along you had the answers! XD
I am deeply sincerely grateful that you've taken the time to document this, so that a layman like myself who is on fire with a DIY maker-mindset can have a shot at doing this myself. Keep it up! Like a vacuum tube energized by a tesla coil, you're tapping into Infinite Intelligence and helping advance the human race forward!
Thank you so much! That is exactly what I wanted!
you should try to make a plasma arc with the other noble gasses
man this was amazing.
I don't know what the algorithm is doing but I'm all here for it! (recently started getting reccomendations for a bunch of smaller maker/science channels)
Thank you!
Cool! Next step:
Use an hour glass shaped glasscylinder filled with Xe.
Add two toroid genarators. One on top one at the buttom.
Make sure everything is very stable, clue it together, etc. (That´s important!)
Make sure both gemerators are providing independently a plasma toroid.
Than add two cameras facing EACH toward one toroid only.
Make realy sure that one camera observes really only one plasma toroid.
Again: Important: Make sure that the camera is always at the same distance and has a good view on the observed plasma ring.
Use A.I. for EACH camara, or better explained: Feed the two(!) A.I. models independently with one camera feed and the settings of the electronic.
Teach the A.I. to change the electronic setting in such a way that the plasma ring is stable and has a perfect donat / toroid shape.
Have fun!
(And think about to rotate the hour glass by 90°, ..., think also to add some neodym magnets with a hole in the middel, think about using a glass tube instead of an hour glass shape tube, ... there are millions of modification possilbe...)
Next step is than to add some more A.I., copper wires and electornic to "fire" each plasma toroid into the middle section of the hour glass at the same time so that they "join" / fuse together ... but aware the radiation. Keep track of this!
Welcome in the world of a new fusion reactor approach.
You went after what you want and you got it! Well done! You found others that have the same interest! Very lucky! A night lamp on your desk is just a small reward compared to the cool experience you got!
Thank you, very true!!
Awesome man, good job! Video idea: Do a giveaway video of the plasma toroid
Hahah that would be a great giveaway, yeah! Thank you, too!
Really cool !
While you're in high voltage devices a video about electrowetting and it's application in optics for example would be amazing!
Thanks! I don't even know what electrowetting is so that means I could learn a lot!
actually a crazy story, good job getting this working
this video is incredible. and Sammy is a legend! you fell right into the middle of a pretty awesome group lol
Displacement current being visualized here. very cool. congrats
The plasma’s reaction to the magnet resulting in a rotation is almost exactly what I have seen goofing around with an old CRT oscilloscope. Very neat.
I would recommend you build one of David Lapoint’s magnetic bowl arrays (have access to a 3d printer?). It should show some compelling effects on the plasma due the the stress it causes on the local magnetic field. If you check out the Primer Fields video series on TH-cam you could probably figure out how to incorporate some of those ideas here.
Great work!
Thank you Noah, I’ll check him out. Maybe I can get a sponsor to buy me a 3D printer this year.
@@BackMacSci with the right modifications a cheap ender 3 pro can serve as an excellent printer. I have 4 currently and I print around the clock almost. The files are out there for the magnetic bowl arrays, your just have to scale appropriately according to whatever magnets you have. David’s content is a rabbit hole and is extremely captivating for minds like ours which are seemingly fed by discovery and invention. Looking forward to more content. I’ll try to get on the discord you mentioned. I wouldn’t mind sharing some interesting things I have come across.
Well thanks, now I have to build one!!! Excellent video, super informative and love your journey, Really well done!!! For the record I like yours better and the way it bobbles around! Having been building tesla coils and an electrostatic inertial confinement fusor this is the next exciting build I have been waiting for. I live for these projects so a million thanks for the inspiration!!!
Oh man, awesome! I'm so glad. I'm the same way, I love making jaw-dropping, scientific demonstration pieces.
A reverse ripple like effect would be pretty cool!
i can't wait the time we'll all have a refined device like this on our desks
This is awesome! I'm glad I found this channel and glad you didn't drop the 2k.
samy is my hero :)
Love seeing people do serious science in their homes! It's like the good old days of science.
Thanks man!
Any plans to test modulation of the oscillator to make the toroid dance around inside the globe?
IIRC within the experiments, the toroid within an unstable state has been able to spin around its normal axis, and spin around non-normal axes, while also producing bends from the typical normal toroid. I remember commenting on a previous video about this movement, and the possibility of programming modulation to cycle through different movements to create a semi-stable display of the dancing toroid. I wish I had the equipment to do this myself, though I'd also have a massive backlog of other projects when I do get proper testing equipment, but I think getting the toroid to semi-stably dance around should be the next big step in the conceptual stages. After that, as I had also previously commented on, automating the starting sequence and re-starting sequence if the toroid ever destabilizes past no return, then working on the aesthetics of the unit; finding a more appealing globe, smooth top via filling and extraction through the bulb's neck, which _should_ work due to the disparity of gas densities, and possibly shortening the neck as much as possible, then making a nice enclosure for it, maybe with external control to switch between different modulation cycle presets.
Hopefully Ukraine can build back what they've lost. Maybe in half a decade after things are over, experimentation has been done, and refinement has occurred, this could be the 20s/30s variant of plasma balls. I just really want to see an end goal of an aesthetic spherical-top lamp with a dancing plasma toroid, have it be the futuristic crystal ball of desk toys.
Can't wait to see what this project eventually becomes, and what other projects you have in mind.
This is what i have in mind for the project as well! Very well said
Don't know where you live but there are Makers projects in a lot of cities in the U.S. where you may find the equipment you are looking for for free use. I don't have one near me otherwise I would be there whenever I had free time! Which is never unfortunately...
Oh yeah...good choice in music also!
You proved in practice how it works, unlike what they are trying to do, which is relatively impossible. They should give you a nobel prize for it.
Incredible job on this project! I would be very interested to see further experiments with significantly increased power. I wonder if it would result in a higher temp/density plasma or if the ring would get thicker, etc. This could have some interesting applications for fusors if it could get hot enough with deuterium gas.
What a great project and backstory! Thankyou for posting this! 🙏
Beautiful, just pure industrial beauty
Cant believe I found your channel, unbelievable work! Sharing this and subbed!
Yay! Thank you!
I am excited for you bro. there is something about the soft glow of plasma that is so soothing. I am a sucker for that Cyan soft green glow!!! That is an amazing build my Friend, Thanks for showing, I am geeking out...lol!!!
Yeah, it is awesome!!
Great Job! Will definitely look into trying this out! Have you tried other gases? It might not be very purple as the xenon generally emits a blue-white glow, while oxygen is more purple so it could be that your glass globe is too pure(?) Either way this looks amazing, have you tried any other gases like argon or neon or even deuterium? and do you know if it would be possible for a non-noble gas like deuterium? I'm just starting to get into plasma physics and this seems like a great hands-on project!
Thanks! It is a great hands on project. I haven't reallyyy considered deuterium but I could make it happen if everyone wants it to! And the "it" in "make it happen" is not referring to successfully creating a new desktop fusor but merely trying it LOL. Maybe I should try an identical vessel with hydrogen gas in it to start... a lot cheaper and probably a suitable proof of concept. But like i've told other people, one of the crucial parameters of this phenomenon seems to be using a fill gas with high molecular weight and can therefore form plasma filaments. And hydrogen has a very low atomic mass... i would like to try it with hydrogen and other gases either way though so you may get your wish!
@@BackMacSci H sounds explode-y if Oxy present
uhm, isn't deuterium kinda pricey?
just freeze some water @@nocturn9x
I would like to see more magnet experimenting with the plasma donut , for example you could get a few of big ring shaped magnets out of some old car speakers and try putting one on the top and one on the bottom , also would be cool to see two oscilators , since you already mastered the high frequency oscilator I would love to see a HFSSTC plasma flame on your channel , I like the way you explain the proccess
Thank you! I would like to make one of those massive HFSSTC arcs for my desk too. I have another plasma toroid video coming out in January where I show more of my experiments!
you should try arranging some electromagnets around the toroid to see if you can accelerate it that way 👀
that would be pretty fun to see!
Highly recommend you look at the papers from Ionel Dinu, Lori Gardi (Fractal Woman) and even Robert Distinti. It very much seems like we're getting ready to move into the next level of understanding of topics such as these.
Could you build a structure with strong magnets at the top of the xenon so that it stretches the toroid hight wise? It would be interesting to see how it affects it.
Yeah I'll look into how to do that
Impressive and dedicated work, I wonder what is the EMI impact of this device...
What an amazing story man, definitely gonna try building one of these
Go for it!
Amazing dude! such an achievement to back engineer, also my first thought after seeing it working is, i wonder if there is a way to audio modulate it, like have it dance or wiggle to music maybe even with just a speaker without the cone or electromagnet
This is so incredible. It's so awesome!
Top notch work. Congrats on the success!
Thank you!
Project ideea: make a small fusion reactor
It would be really nice to see the ring in high speed camera! Also I wonder if that is possible with Argon...
Absolutely madlad. Loved every second of it.
Nice video quality. Love that you explain things in a simple way for everyone to understand! 🤩
Heyy! Thanks Julie!
WOW!!! Congratulations! Great reverse engineering. Thanks for sharing
Thank youu! You’re very welcome, I’m glad to have shared it!
Would love to see an evaluation of using AC vs DC for this. Thanks for your video.
I would love to see the reverse engineers meet with the original creator and compare notes/ team up to make a consumer desk version lol
Yeah seriously! Or make an improved one. I Want to make one that imitates the aurora borealis more and can respond to music
@@BackMacSci per the aurora borealis, see the Terella Experiment, Kristian Birkeland.
Video idea: "Creating localized red sprites"
omg its almost exactly what i was dreaming and thinking recently!
i need this thing to be in my sound design studio!!!
if it could twist the waveform accordingly to the sound input and chagne colors like nothern lights, it would be just hilarious!
Super cool! I'm by no means knowledgeable on electrical systems, but was curious if you thought the difference in voltage on each model was in part because of the us 60hz AC vs the euro 50hz power supplies?
2022 has be a great year for making and understanding Plasma Toroids. 💜💫
Looking forward to seeing the next steps that 2023 bring in your experiments.
I look forward to that too!
Video idea: Super conducter meets plasma
Project idea - mount inductive coils around the lower part of the sphere and drive them with audio circuit to make magnetic fields that will force the plasma donut to move to some dope beats.
Strong with the Reverse Engineering are you!
ok now it's time to build a fusion reactor
i think this is cooler than a fusor. it's quiet and unique!
This is awesome, great job man really enjoyed the content and your positive energy throughout the process !
You should try putting another coil on top of the bulb and see what happens if it has the same or opposite handedness of the one on the bottom! 🤩
I will! Good idea!
How about testing the setup with a regular "plasme ball" globe. A large glass bulb full of xenon is they only bit that's not very easy to acquire, but plasma balls are readily available globes(ish) vessels with Nobel gases in. Would make this a more achievable project for all If you can get in it to work. Different frequency or power levels or waveform shapes may be, but my educated guess says it should work with the right settings.
Also great video, I'd love to make one myself.
Thank you!
Video Idea: take this to a school science day, it’s such a beautiful thing that I’m sure it will inspire many kids to become our next generation of fusion engineers and rocket scientists.
My hypothesis is the oscillating magnetic field causes induction in the plasma ring, and it forms a ring because that's the shape induction usualy causes in any conductive material, the fact that only plasma would get indused would confine it to more of a defined ring shape due to the edges of the ring being less conductive.
just an amazing project. Maybe try adding electromagnets on the sides to manipulate the shape and stability of the toroid?
Well done that man!
This is one of the coolest frequency experiments I've seen in years! I'm for sure building one next year! :D
The "self containedness" of the plasmoid does something fundamental and potentially huge with how it plays and interacts with external forces. It *feels* alive and sentient to some extent, and perhaps this self containment itself is some basic fundamental requirement for some sliver of consciousness to embody the energy.
Can't wait to experiment with this myself!
Merry everything and keep at it brother.
Thank you Håvard!
If you look into anode tufting around a spherical anode you'll be in for a good time. Self containing, and a certain point self igniting.
Video idea: "plasma toroid experimentation 4"
Curious if the strand at 8:09 is split into multiple mini-orbs Is because of the rolling shudder effect? Or does it look like that to the naked eye?