KYKEON | The Drink of Greek Heroes
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- A healing potion in The Iliad & The Odyssey, and a drink to commune with the Gods in secret Greek Mysteries, Kykeon has a fascinating history. But my questions is, how does it taste?
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KYKEON
ORIGINAL "RECIPE" (From The Odyssey)
"...and made for them a potion of cheese and barley meal and yellow honey with Pramnian wine."
MODERN RECIPE
INGREDIENTS
- 1/2 Cup (100g) Barley Meal
- 1 Cup or more (235ml+) Dry Red Wine
- 1/3 Cup (50g) Goat Cheese crumbled
- 2 Tablespoons Honey
METHOD
1. Add all of the ingredients to a small sauce pan and mix together.
2. Set pan over low heat and, stirring continuously bring to a simmer until thickened. (If the kykeon has thickened too much, stir in more wine until you achieve the desired consistency.
3. Remove the pot from the heat and pour into a glass and allow to cool a bit. Then serve. (The drink can congeal if allowed to sit too long. If that happens, reheat the drink.)
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im wondering if it could be better if the cheese & barley were finely ground i mean really fine ground
@@unexpected2475 I have seen that before, I assume they can upload the video but have not made the video public yet.
This looks like what you'd feed an invalid, or someone recovering from nasty wounds. Protein, carbohydrates, sugar, in a reasonably sterile suspension - in an easily digested form.
Proof that hospital food has *always* sucked.
Trojans HATE this. Try this ONE DRINK that ACHILLES drinks EVERY DAY.
Achilles died to the Trojans :)
@@ariss3304 that's what the trojans want you to believe
@@ariss3304 but he still killed their bestia soldier and they still lost the war, lol
actually on that note was the drink just for injuries for also everyday consumption?
lmao this is so good
In 2000 years people will be like “meth: the aether of heroes”
Most famously used by the hero known as Floridaman.
Walter White and the Argonauts
If it does make heroes, not for very long. I know some meth heads (both in recovery and not; I'm in AA/NA), and they don't hold up well.
@Usa mabaho Actually, I'd have suggested crack. It has better humor potential.
@Usa mabaho --- no shit --- where'd ya find antique dexamyl? and was it still potent --- asking for a friend ----
In my country, Chile, we have a similar "drink". Is called "chupilca" and is made with wine, toasted flour and sugar (optional), no cheese, no cooking. It was really common until the 90s and it was mainly drank by poor people and rural farmers. Its main purpose was to get drunk and a full stomach, because it was really cheap. So if you don't have the money to buy lunch, you might aswell drink a thick, sweet chupilca
Eso suena como tanto para emborracharse. Tienes la historia de por qué la gente chileno hacía chupilca? Cuando se puede beber vino y comer pan, por qué hacer sopa de pan feo? Por cierto los agricultores tenía un horno.
@@Blueshirt38 I guess because making liquid, mushy form of bread soup will make you fill your belly easier than just eat bread, at least they use less flour. It's what ancient Chinese farmer will do when they don't have enough grain. Instead of eating rice they add a lot of water into it to create a kind of rice soup...
You are an idiot if you think is anywhere near the same. What you are describing has existed since roman times
@@Blueshirt38 No tiene idea de lo que esta hablando. En ningun momento de la historia de chile el almuerzo ha sido mas caro que el vino, en especial en areas rurales.
really similar, has wine on it :)
Farmer: *eats bread he made using barley with ergot*
Farmer: *why am i seeing the gods?*
"Holy shit I'm blasting out of both ends! My heart's a'seizing! My lungs a'wheezing! The fucking walls are melting! I hear the voice of Satan, he's telling me to invest in Apple! What does that mean?! Why does Satan want me to buy apples?!"
Gods telling me to invest in apple, why does he want me to buy apples
Congrats if you get the reference
@BaxiTube I’ve always wondered how much religious history can be attributed to mental illnesses that cause hallucinations, like Schizophrenia or even trip-induced psychosis (or the other ones i do not know the name of)
Ancient Greek farmer tripping on bad grain: *you know, this shit would make a great basis for a really fun cult* (disclaimer: Greeks referred to specific godly worship as cults, like a cult of Athena being centered around her temple Athens as well as any other of her temples around Greece. Harmless stuff in context of their culture. But look up the Eleusinian Mysteries - it was a strangely all-inclusive cult that had "secret" parties that lots of people were aware of or attended, but nobody was allowed to talk about afterwards. Some people think they were binging on ergot wine. Sorry for the tangent hahaha.)
@Theo Paidi
yes there is. The burning thorn bush? Probably an acacia, it's native to this region and contains a fuckload of DMT. If you inhale the smoke from that of course god starts talking to you.
Also multiple mentions of 'Manna' the 'bread from the heavens' that 'comes with the rain', like... Mushrooms.
The man just literally drank a cheeseboard, for culinary science.
Culinary history my friend *
I laughed so hard at this
@@justjunkmale me too
It actually sounds like the end of the night results of too much wine and cheese board.🤢
It's not culinary science it's a hazing Ritual from an old club that died long ago and just so happened to have its records survive
I have the feeling this was meant as a medicinal calorie bomb, and not like some recipe to enjoy drinking.
Yeah, pretty much. It was the kind of thing you gave to those who were severely injured or were ill to give them calories. It is also the kind of thing that would work in a pinch when cooking a proper meal was not something you had the time for so it was also likely something that Xenophon's army probably consumed more often than they liked during their march across Persia during the Anabasis.
bruh
the Kykeon used to be a psychedelic and very visionary drink
ancient greeks only had one chance in their life to drink it and if they didn’t got enlightened they had to wait for their next life
@@JensVanDeAarde Wouldn't surprise me if some, like the oracles and temples, added something to it to engender that effect.
@@jgkitarel
ergot-fungi from barley used to be that „magic“
@@jgkitarel With the added advantage that's there's no chance of anyone malingering.
"Still feeling rough ? Have another Kykeon. "
"I'm good. Take me off the sick list."
Max, you burst into laughter after drinking it, and I have it on good authority that laughter is the best medicine. That potion was a resounding success
I was going to say, "one sip and the man's red face wasted! XD" I think THAT may be the real reason the greeks felt "energized" if it makes a man tipsy THAT easily.
I am rewatching this much later, after the iconic fish pudding episode, and thinking Max should make a playlist of “Oh God No”.
Please yes. I would watch it lol
What I thought I would get: Delicious Greek Berry Smoothie 😁🤗
What I got: Ancient Alcoholic’s Oatmeal 🥴🤢
with cheese, goat cheese
I also thought it’s gonna be some delicious berry smoothie or grape!!! xD
@@xasharchangel4445 It would have been nice without the wine and cheese, replace them with just fresh goat milk
Best comment ever
I think it might be doable with yogurt instead of cheese, and chia instead of grains
homer's ghost in the distance: "it's just a prank bro"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Maaan I laugh my ass out with these comments HHAHAHA
Homers Big Brain Business Move: How to increase sales for your failing Pramnian winery.
imagine onions...
that or "I didn't say to not cook the oats with water..."
As the "Max REALLY hates this" laugh reaches its crescendo, and his eyes fill with "no, really, max RRREEEAAALLLLLLLLLYYYYY hates this" tears, I somehow knew he was going in for a second taste.
The descriptions of Pramnian wine which you read make it sound like it was fortified, perhaps even distilled. It would likely have been sweeter. Barley meal, when added to drinks, like in Tibet, would have been cooked, popped in a dry pan before being ground. If you cook it longer it would be almost a pudding. The addition of goat cheese would then be quite good.
You should do a potions miniseries focusing on historical beverages that were considered magical potions.
Good idea!
Oooh! There’s a book written about that by the Borgias!
They were basically all just alcohol with a buncha opiates and herbs.
I recommend rosa solis, a potion of everlasting life!
I would absolutely love to watch this.
Alternative Title:
You won't believe this ancient protein shake!
How to get Heroic GAINS??
HAH that's great
or .. "Max takes one for the team"
Top magic goddess shares magical secrets gone wrong gone sexual gone pig
It doesn’t sound overtly bad, you know? It’s kind of like putting a charcuterie board in a blender.
It honestly just sounds like wine with the snacks you'd eat it with.
@@DanteTorn Yeah, but like it's been chewed by somebody else and spit in your glass? Sorry...
Charcoochie*
@@Zeltron_1804 We love a good shartcoochie board
It reminds me of Cream of Wheat, but savory and with barley.
Everyone has those memories of being a small child and just mixing random ingredients because you were bored. This recipe automatically makes me think of all the concoctions I created back then.
Did you drink any?
@Triumph2024. Nah, I was always stopped before I could ingest any of my creations
The perfect thing to share with your "best buddy"/"cousin" when he is sulking in his tent and refusing to fight
and they were roommates ;)
help me step-spartan
i have become stuck under the chariot
please step-spartan help me
although, you might be dead by then.
Eric K oh my gosh they were roommates
Well they took his woman that he captured from him
My grandmother used to make a version of this. The mistakes you made.... Dry wine (yuck) instead use a fortified dessert wine like Port. Second cook your barley meal separately... Should cook up like malt-o-meal.... Mix port and meal to desired thickness. Top with with feta and honey. A few toasted pine nuts goes well as a garnish.
Steven Ryan
That sounds a LOT better ! Thank you very much.
I think it’s fitting that the dry wine is sorta gross. The point was to get a close approximation to the pramnian wine, which was described as very strong and sour. The way your grandmother prepared the barely is probably a good thing to try out if he ever re made this
@@saintwarsaw Though he could have compensated for the sourness by adding more honey.
Was he was describing the wine used I was thinking to myself that port wine might make a suitable substitution. I actually like your recipe, I think I might give it a try!
Thank you!
My mythology teacher mentioned you and this video in particular when talking about Ancient Greek mythology and talked about how this is like those ancient smoothies and is the ancient equivalent of those drinks you drink instead of getting up from your gaming chairs to grab yourself a complete meals. Basically a meal replacement drink similar to Soylent which my mythology teacher happened to mention Soylent as modern day equivalent of this drinks.
your teacher teaching you the same things as every school in this earth,based on research by historians and archeologists the only exception is the schools from turkey albania and skopians-monkeydonians . Uneducated people from these countries commenting in every youtube videos about Greek history trying to steal the Greek history.
Omg that is the ancient greece whey protein
@WalkingFarFarAway fascinating, isn't it how we still do the same exact thing as what our ancestors did back in days? we just reuse the same exact thing, but in a new way, like same old tricks or items, but in a new way, we simply repeat what our ancestors did, like, for example con artists that offer a brand new car for winners online in order to steal people personal information is the same exact tricks con artists use when offering car to winners in shoppers malls to steal their personal information just reusing the same exact tricks but applying it in new ways likewise we make the sane excuses as our ancestors did when you read up on mythology and their jokes especially jokes teenagers back in dsys make is same exact jokes teenagers make today and that your ancestors most likely did the same exact thing you did back in days for the same exact reason you have for doings those things just with different technologies they have to contend with but doings pretty much everything we're currently doing showing we're no different from our ancestors.
@@alexanderhood8993yeah I took an ancient literature class a while back and the biggest thing I learned was along the lines of "humans never actually change we do the same shit for the same reasons just in different ways"
@@mechwarrior5727A conversation between Cassidy/McCree and D.va from Overwatch
“Cassidy: You know, I used to be alot like you when I was younger.
D.va: Uhh, I’m way cooler than you.
Cassidy: that’s exactly what I would’ve said! Now you just need the hat and cigar.”
i wonder what would happen if you made this drink with retsina. Retsina is wine with roots in ancient greece, it's not referring to the variety of grapes, but the way it was stored. Ancient greeks didnt really have wooden barrels to age wine in, so they used ceramic amphora, and to prevent the wine from being ruined or spoiled, they mixed pine resin into the wine before storing it. This basically coated the inside of the amphora with a layer of resin, and that preserved the wine, but it imparted a very heavy spruce flavour into the wine, which is why most outsiders hate it, because it kinda tastes like turpentine. They still make retsina today (albeit in glass bottles) with the historical methods- I imagine that this pramnian wine would have been stored as a retsina, so it would have tasted very heavily like spruce. I imagine that kykeon probably would have tasted like you'd eaten an entire charcuterie board including the plank it was served on, which i imagine might have been more of a vibe. Still not *good* to modern palates, but a vibe.
"Oh, wow, um... uh... mmm... that is a... thing... I have drunk just now... thanks, Hecamede, for this... potion.... I don't need any more. Look! I already feel much much better!"
(Mysterious healing properties of Kykeon solved.)
Clever! 😁
Seems like as a likely a story as any.
"Hey Homer, think of some repulsing drink"
"Why?"
"So someone in the future prepares it and thinks it will give him super powers when instead it will just taste like arse"
"Haha, good idea, will do!"
U got a time machine?
Doh 😣😂
Haha!
I read that in Moe's voice.
😂😂
"I cannot in good conscience have anybody else make this. " Your expression pretty much sums that up. Wow. That bad!
The look on Max's face after he took a drink! LOLOLOLOL Love this show, love the history, and love the laughs.
KYKEON is basically "hey you want a brunch smoothie to heal your wounds?" Like it is literally just a smoothie of brunch type of stuff
Smoothie with wine & healthy party herbs to help you see visions
@@wilhelmseleorningcniht9410 More like, Kykeon: "NO!" XD
An ancient Greek bloody mary.
I was literally thinking while watching it that some barley cakes with goat cheese and honey, served with a glass of wine was like an ancient brunch alternative to this. This is like the ancient world making Instagram milkshakes or bloody Marys with all the weird nonsense garnishes that make them impossible to consume.
"Oh Gods I'm in so much pain!"
"Here, have this chunky wine, cheese and barley smoothie, that'll fix you!"
"You know what, I'm actually, I'm actually okay..."
I mean that's my theory.
I legit burst out laughing at this. 'I'd rather suffer" indeed.
Seems legit.
ROFL!
Maybe they tasted it and it was so gross that the thought of having to drink more just made them heal out of sheer willpower
There was a joke in ancient Syracuse similar to this: a king of Syracuse demanded to be given melas zomos (black broth) which was a Spartan soup made out of blood, salt and boiled pig's feet that was supposedly a staple.
He drank it, said it was ass, and said "Now I know why the Spartans fight. They would rather die than live a life eating this".
I made it using pomegranate juice. I also added dates. Best thing I ever had
thats just desert
Hmmm, this sounds like a great way to skip or circumvent the alcohol.
Innovative.
And the Nomads were at their Oasis, eating their dates... What? No wine?
Your reaction is absolutely priceless. This is the first time I've seen you make something you didn't like. When you said Greek Pepto Bismol I almost spit my drink across the room. Too funny. Loved it. Thank you for such amazing videos
LMAO
Literally wine fortified protein shake, is what this is. Or rather in modern terms a wine fortified workout recovery shake.
Wine in cheese: tasty, good, delectable
Cheese in wine: gross, bad, why
Wine and cheese, separately, is also tasty.
I’d prolly like it lol
Ratios
When you do fondue you melt cheese in wine and according to many it's quite tasty
@@icreatedanaccountforthis1852 Exactly, it's all about the ratios.
I laughed more in this episode than I had laughed at anything in the last week. Great stuff and I agree that etymology is fun as heck
Brave man. Very brave man. Thanks for taking one for the tasting team.
11:14 - The sad, sad, sound of a man who knows, in this moment, he should have done the grilled flamingo episode
🤣
Or the screaming Viking 😂😁😉
Healer - "if you don't heal up quickly, you have to keep drinking this stuff!"
Hero - "OK, all better now, thanks!"
We used to do something similar for kids at the girls’ summer camp I worked at. Most of the time, when a kid felt sick, it was dehydration or they were homesick and faking it... so we had them drink a whole (kid-size) bottle of water.
Dehydration? Felt better. Homesickness? “Don’t make me drink any more water!” Still feels awful? Get her to the nurse.
@@Ajehy This is why I hate summer camps lol
Jokes aside I think it's a great idea. Barley porridge mixture aids digestion and the wine makes you forget you're wounded.
The old "silverware" for banquets found in tombs include: 1 cheese grater, one or more strainers and some ladles/dippers. I do not think it was intended to be drank whole.
Great video, both funny and informative.
Fun fact: ergot is the fungus from which lsd was originally derived
Was?
@@patricioaroncastrillonross8372 Nowdays you synthetise it in a lab instead if extracting it from a fungus.
Busy, busy fungi.
“It tastes like what you’d think it would...which isn’t good.” 🤣🤣🤣
"It smells like wine..." *makes skeptical face*
And that was the extent of the emotional preparation. *dissolves into giggle fit*
("I made chewy cheese wine,") "...It's not good, it's not good."
I made kykeon the other day for my class on Ancient Greece, and it truly is... an experience drinking it. It made my professor cry a little.
I love that you just TRY things and that you're honest when you don't like it. I wonder if all the heroic stories related to this drink were a way of convincing people to eat/drink this when they were ill.
This seems like a "hangover remedy" kind of crazy drink lol
It really does, lol!!!
Simple carbs and hair of the dog, that might actually work.
That's probably the only real "healing" it does... worth a try?
This is exactly what I thought. Or something you give someone sick/injured enough to be on bed rest
Or an ancient Greek milk shake.
YOU CAN'T HANDLE MY STRONGEST POTION!
in a perfect world, kykeon like this would not exist.....but this is not a perfect world
You're a rascal with no respect for knights!
MY STRONGEST POTIONS WILL KILL A DRAGON LET ALONE A MAN
Good meme, top KEKeon
BUT POTION SELLER!
You are, hands down, the cutest person on the entire internet. The way you delivered "Etymology is fun" made me SCREAM 😂
Why do you type like a teenaged girl?
It is SO great that he really waited to taste it on film and showed his honest reaction.
Me while seeing the thumbnail: "oh look a fun summery fruity drink to try"
After the video: "oh nononono"
Expectation: raspberries with honey and yogurt. Fun and full of nutrients.
Reality: There is honey, but it's mostly bitter wine mixed with goat cheese and barley. Basically a medicinal protein shake.
@@starspeculation thank god he didn't add the fucking onion
Same! I thought it was a strawberry smoothie
🤣🤣🤣
other people did comment with similar old recipes that actually do work well(still more a "was feeling under the weather" recipes), but the main thing it boils down to is "cook oats with water and a splash of wine"
The absolute, hands down, best reaction to anything you've made. Even Garum didn't make you squirm like this.
I was laughing for several minutes. Thank you, Max 🤣
🤣
@@TastingHistory
I could tell that you were _REALLY_ struggling to get that down and keep it there.
Your pain is our entertainment.
This was exactly my thought. Even garum wasn't this degree of unpalatable. 😂😂😂
@@TastingHistory It looked like someone regurgitated in your cup and not lying; I thought you were going to refill it! 🤣
This is my first time coming across your channel and I really like it.I like that you combine recipes and history together. What a fine concept! I'm learning a lot about history. LOL it will be great if history in schools was taught this way. The students will pay attention.
First time i watch your videos. I am completely fascinated with the ammount of sources and the way you present them. Excellent work.
this recipe feels like when young girls make "potions" by just mixing stuff in a bucket
Kinda sounds like how kids with alcoholic parents sometimes mix random innocent stuff like Coke and tomato sauce with their parent's alcohol to be like them.
Omg I forgot how my daughters made “potions!” Blast from the past! Ketchup, water, apple juice and chocolate sprinkles lol
Growing up I made so many potions😂😭
Mine always had mud in them.
@@anesiaandrews214 I use to go into the woods with my best friend from childhood with a pot and spoons and we would take leaves and berries and shit and mix it all together. Those were good times I swear, not a care in the world
"Not quite food, not quite drink..."
Sounds like an ancient Greek yogurt smoothie.
I bet it would've had a decent protein content!
Yes indeed
Honestly, if you replace the cheese with greek yogurt and blend it really well, I'm sure it's fine.
except it's alcoholic, and salty
If only it would taste like it as well.
Max, you are absolutely amazing (and heroic) for making this ... yeah.
Boy have I had fun watching your reaction 🤣🤣🤣. Thanks for the demo. I always wondered what it would look like ever since I read the Iliad. Great channel by the way!!
Max in most other videos:
"Oh... Oh! Well this is delightful!"
Max in this video:
"Ummmmm..."
-nervous laughter-
My Grandma (which was a Greek -Albanian lady) used to cook a dessert very similar to this, using a mix of a bunch of cereal meals with wine and milk or yogurt, till the point of a starch, but she would rarely sweetened it with honey, it was usually regular sugar, and even with all the cinnamon and cloves added later, I always hated it. Especially because it doesn't feel like a dessert, and more like the type of porridge or mash, you're obliged to eat when you're feeling sick/ill.
Wait i dont understand is she Albanian but lives in greece or is she greek but lives in Albania
@@constantinethecataphract5949 She lived in Greece but her dad was Albanian and her mom kinda half-Albanian (in terms of Ethnicity, not nationality)
any idea about the name(s) of that wine porridge in Greek or Albanian or another language?
Lol, “oh I can taste the cheese in that one!” Lol. How did you manage a second sip of that glop?!! Greek hero indeed sir! 🤣
I enjoy your show; there's always something to learn. Food and history, a nice combination
"Today, I'm going to create ambrosia"
*ascends to godhead, abandons youtube channel*
So he died
[SwItChEs To TiKtOk]
last time I was this early the Minoans were still relevant
MarsOz I will eat your bull. Be careful my friend
Winning comment
Still would want that, especially those female dresses of theirs
Drink it or hide in that labyrinth.
Now you know why a side of raw onion makes it better. That or a side of potent psychotropics...
IMO: pre-cook, strain and dry the barley grind in mortar (qtr cup max), more wine, darker and lots of body, grated hard cheese (kefalotyri), mix wine with equal part of tea made with mint, lemon verbena and saffron.
Your channel is streamed 24/7 at my place right now and this is one of my favorite reactions of yours to trying food. You were so gentle in your review of something I can only describe as a bad joke from the ancients lol
This looks (and presumably tastes) just as appalling as some of the"smoothies" that some people try to tell me are SO healthy and nutritious even though they get most of their calories from sugar. Perhaps "kykeon" was more like a barley soup made with pearl barley, flavored with onion and wine and perhaps a few mushrooms (psychedelic or otherwise) and sprinkled with cheese?
I like this explanation.
A barley, mushroom, onion and wine soup sounds delicious, especially with a little beef. But this... not so much lol.
Yes! May I have some mushrooms, etc. with my wine soup? Cheese on top!
My smoothies are delicious, contain no additional sugar and hardly any fruit. (but heaps of vegetables....)
apple gets most of its calories from sugar. are you trying to imply that apple is unhealthy?
Plot Twist: Machamp drank this drink that's why he is buff.
Exactly!
The ancient greek in the Pokemon world used Liechi berry wine.
It's the same color as Machamp, so this checks out
Or is this what Machoke drinks to actually gain his/her/their superpowers?
My wife and I have watched a bunch of your videos, and so far this was THE BEST taste reaction at the end. Thanks for the laugh!
This is one of the best channels in YT. Amazing work!!!! I was curious about this one reading the Iliad and now I know!!!
It's the drink of heroes, because chugging this down *is* a heroic task.
it might be better with some drugs, and an onion on the side
GOTTA have that onion
My gods, yes
Lil side of wormwood and valerian, but those dudes ended as bacon🙄
I think he should really try it with an onion, im sure that would make it better
Opium
Have you been told about "ulpo", with Spanish roots? It's red wine, sugar and roasted flour stirred together without cooking. It was an invigoring drink/soup for agriculture workers, common in Southern Chile, right above Patagonia, until the 80's in rural zones. It tastes yummy if you are familiar to it since you are a child.
Discovered your channel like 2 months ago! I listen to it every day at work! I love cuisine and cooking as well! 😊
"There are no recipes."
"There _is_ a list of ingredients."
When dealing with historical recipes, isn't that what you have to deal with 99% of the time anyway?
It’s so true! And we are lucky to have that.
That's a big issue with historical cooking. I've always interpreted kykeon as a barley porridge flavored with a little wine and sweetened with honey with a little cheese sprinkled on top but when it comes down to it no one could ever know what it was unless we found some ancient recipe.
@@saudade7842 if it's aweful it probably wasn't the recipe they used.
@@minamur People from different regions and time periods oftentimes enjoyed food and drink that people from other areas/cultures/time periods might see as revolting.
Even if cookbooks survived, the worst part about pre-modern recipes inside (Roman recipe books and Medieval cookbooks are just as guilty of this) is that most don't even give an indication about the proportions between the ingredients either, not just what order they must be put in, when even a little change is enough to change the taste and texture of the food significantly.
Haha, I was watching with subtitles on and I nearly lost it when you drank it and it came up with "X_X"
It’s true! LMAOOO
This channel is so wholesome and educational! I am an archaeologist, and I learn a lot from each episode. I came here from reddit btw.
You are an absolute treasure! I’m so happy one of your episodes came across my feed! I’ve been watching other episodes but so far this is the absolute best funniest tasting reaction I’ve seen yet! 🎉🎉🎉🎉😂
What I'm seeing is that the ancient greeks attempted to invent alcoholic cheescake shake and with nothing before it to compare to this was the greatest alcoholic cheesecake shake created, thus seeing no reason to try and improve it.
...That or Homer just wanted to prank unsuspecting TH-camrs several millenia later.
You're a hero to us Tasting History. Thanks for braving Homer's terrible recipes so that we don't have to.
i guess this kills the "max is an ancient roman time traveler" theory
Annistar haven’t you ever been like “hmm I know I hated that when I was little but maybe it tastes good now actually? Oh no no oh gods it does NOT taste good”
I love watching "Tasting History", but I've never laughed so hard as I did with this one! Ohhh the yuck face was priceless!
yes, I also enjoyed the little eyebrow raise right before the sip.
Yes, he earned a new subscriber for it.
Best episode yet sir, thank you!
I love your honesty!
I made a smoothie based of this drink. With modern substitutes. Greek yogurt for the cheese. Oatmeal for the barley. Cranberry juice for the wine. And honey. Put in a blender and mixed, it taste good and is good in the morning. 👍
Sounds reasonable
Cheater, Cheater, cranberry eater.
What a magnificent onion hat.
coming back to this one
sounds nice actually
"All but Odysseus, who had really great plot armor..." had me cracking up 😄
Your reaction was the best!!
We have been using your videos as we walk through history as our guide to cooking, and my kiddos and I were cracking up on your verdict 😂😂
I think we’ll pass on this one 😂😂
You are amazing! Such incredible reserearch and so well referenced! I never thought I would actually learn smth new about Greek history from a YT channel! My thoughts in contributing to the recreation of this recipe would be
1. Use a wine with very high alcohol percentage as the island of Ikaria is still known for a local variety of white wine with the insane 15% alcohol content that can get you drunk after two cups. Probably all wine in ancient Greece was too strong by todays standards and thats why they diluted it with as much as 3 parts of water to one of wine.I guess red could reach as much as 20% alcohol back then! So a fortified red wine could do today
2. Use a type of goat cheese called anthotyron (flower of cheese) which is very creamy and soft with yoghurty like texture, unsalted and not matured.
3. Powedered toasted barley or oats like the ones used for breakfast
Thanks again and keep up the great work!
the desperation in his voice when he says “i don’t know” after theorizing about the cheese and barley texture 😂
I noticed that too 😂😂😂
“It tastes like what you think it would...”
What a polite way to say it’s disgusting
I commend you for tasting that for us. I intend to pass this one up of course but the video was excellent as always.
Just found your channel a few days ago and I’m absolutely loving it I subscribed and am trying to watch all your past videos. The kykeonn maybe because it has barley in it when you poured it out it reminded me of oatmeal my mom used to make when I was a kid because sometimes instead of water she used cranberry juice so the oatmeal turned pink
I’d love to see an episode where he cooks some of the “survival foods” from the siege of Leningrad- such as leather soup and sawdust bread. It’s not pretty history, but it’s certainly interesting!
I’ll put that on the list... a little ways down the list 🤣
Did they actually eat that ?
@@augustintacquet488 Yes Augustin, it was a pretty desperate situation there
S H 😂
@@SH-rs6ow It sounds like something dangerous to eat, perhaps even more dangerous than not eating. Desperate situation indeed...
He’s a chef, historian, and a gamer. A perfect being
Ha! That immediate look on his face when he dipped the drink spoke volumes instantly.
This is the coolest channel … can’t get enough. Amazing.
"Contracts the eyebrows and stomach" sounds like a wine that is about as sour as lemons, i read somewhere that a cup of hot water with lemon juice and honey mixed into it makes for a good natural remedy for various things, maybe this Kykeon is something along the lines of that except with some extra ingredients and made into a semi thick substance.
The hot lemon water with honey is awesome for sore throats. It of course has other uses but this is the most noticeable and is recommended by several choir teachers/private vocal tutors.
i want to try that wine, sounds amazing. i love sour drinks
Maybe it was wine+water+honey used as a dip for barley bread and cheese.
@@iivarimokelainen that actually sounds rather nice. Flour soup with heated cheese is a traditional winter/pre lent soup where I live.
Cheese is sprinkled on top and it can be made with broth, white or red wine. It's actually really nice.
yea tbh this whole thing sounds more medicinal than anything
This is probably the nicest “I hate it” next to emmyeatsjapan.
na bro go check out star trek data and his emotion chip takes a big drink of something face contorts i dont know what i feel... geinan chimes in you hate it? data: yes I HATE this it is revolting,... geinan chimes back in another? data:yes please!
@@hardwirecars I was just about to comment that. What a great scene.
*emmymadeinjapan
She has the most soothing voice and demeanor.
That was by far the best tasting segment on the channel.
I love all the assassins creed references that show up in your videos - great channel!
"Etymology is fun!"
You said it, my dude.
I barely finished writing this before you tasted the wine and I about died laughing. My goodness, your face spoke volumes.
agreed, I love etymology
"Etymology is fun", I need that on a T-shirt
So are lesbians!
Great research great program ! So interesting and informing about the life people had ages ago ! A sort of small peek through a keyhole
Poor max you can just hear the distress in his voice when he says i dont know at 12:37 or 12:38 over just how bad this drink really is. Despite the drink being horrible he is still just so nice and respectful because he knows and understands the importance that this piece of history makes to someone out there. He knows that somewhere someone is watching this video and is proud of their heritage and history so he does his best to not offend and to respectfully bring life to each recipe as if it were his own history he is talking about. I have a deep and great respect for this man and all he stands for. Just such a wonderful person. We need more people like you Max Miller!!! Also my fiance and i wish you and jose a long and happy life together every time we watch ketchup together we feel the love you two have for each other and it just gives us such joy to be able to share a small piece of your life. We absolutely love you both and wish nothing but happiness and joy and good fortune for you both
“It tastes how you think it would taste... which isn’t exactly good”
Hahahahahhaa
Ya, Grain alcohol would be better. LoL.
Max, Internally: "OH SWEET JESUS, THIS IS AWFUL! WHY DID I DO THIS? DISGUSTING! THERE IS NOTHING GOOD ABOUT THIS!"
Max, Externally: "... I can't recommend anyone else make this..."
Basically that’s exactly right
Remake it with actual feta cheese and diluted wine (which is what they drank in campaign, it worked as a water purifier)
@@cahallo5964 I get the impression from the "hard" description it would also be a very high-proof wine. So dilute something really really strong, and then make a cheese soup with it.
@@TastingHistory Maybe if you had added a bunch of herbs it would have been slightly better. Supposedly Pramneian wine was very floral and oreganoey- according to the wine experts today.
@@TastingHistory no one upvote the 69 is strong with this one.
I'm so impressed that you went back for a second taste!