MAGNUS SNUFFER SS 125 gr Broadhead Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ย. 2023
- This is a test of the 125 gr Magnus Snuffer SS 3 blade broadhead.
Here is summary of my 2023 Testing Procedure & Scoring w/the scores of this head posted in parenthesis as well.
Magnus Snuffer SS 125 gr Total Score: 79.58 = 8 Golden Arrows
1. Flight Forgiveness (20%, 15 pts)
This is not just a test of how heads fly out of my bow, as it was in the past. With a well tuned bow, properly built arrows & good form, almost every head flies well. That's why in the past most heads got a flight score of 9 or 10. But that doesn't help those who may not have perfectly tuned bows/arrows/good form. So now I am gauging Flight Forgiveness. This is based on how the head flies for me, how well it spins, how "sensitive" the flight is to imperfections, & the exposed surface area of the blades. The max score of a Mech is 20 & the max score of a Fixed is 16.
2. Cut Size (20%, 12.15 pts)
The more tissue being cut, the more lethal the head, all else equal. The entrance cut, total cut, & width of the cut (a crucial variable for bloodletting) are all scored:
The entrance cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" then that fraction is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.6" = 4.48 pts)
The max cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" as well, then that fraction is is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.6" = 4.48 pts)
The max cutting diameter is compared to a standard of 2.0", then that fraction is weighted to 6% of the score. (1.063" = 3.19 pts)
3. Blades (20%, 17.53 pts)
Initial sharpness (9%, 275 grams = 9.25/10 = 8.33 pts) & Edge Retention (9%, +100 gram = 8/10 = 7.2 pts) are measured using the Edge On Up Sharpness Tester. The pressure needed for a blade to cut thru a copolymer wire is measured in grams.
Edge Retention is the loss of sharpness after the head is shot in Penetration Test 1, thru 1/2" MDF and 2/3" rubber foam mat & Clear Ballistics FBI gel. For every 50 "grams" of sharpness lost, 1 point is deducted from 10.
What are some sharpness scores for common edges?
A butter knife takes 2000 grams of pressure to break the co polymer wire.
A new high end cutlery edge: ~ 375 grams of pressure.
A utility razor blade: 200 grams.
Based on the many broadheads I have tested, here is my scoring scale:
Out of the Box Sharpness:
0-200 gr: 10
201-300 gr 9
301-400 gr: 8
401-500 gr: 7
501-600 gr: 6
601-700 gr: 5
Ease to resharpen or replace blades is judged & given 2% of the score. (10/10= 2 pts)
4. Penetration (20%, 16.95 pts)
There are 3 penetration tests:
Pen Test 1: 1/2" MDF, 2/3" rubber foam mat, Clear Ballistics FBI gel. Depth of penetration is compared to a standard of 9" & weighted to 9% of the score. (8" = 8 pts)
Pen Test 2: Layered cardboard. # of layers penetrated is compared to a standard of 70 layers & weighted to 9% of the score.
(54 layers=6.95 pts)
Angled Penetration Test: How effectively does the head penetrate 1/4" MDF covered by carpet at a 45 degree angle. This accounts for 2% of the score. (10/10 = 2 pts)
5. Durability (20%, 17.95 pts)
Each head is shot thru 1/2" MDF 3 times. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 12% of the score. (10/10 = 12 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot thru 22 ga steel plate twice. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 5% of the score. (9.5/10 = 4.75 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot into concrete once. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 3% of the score. (4/10 = 1.2 pts)
Steel plate & concrete are certainly not "realistic" mediums, but they do reveal the outer limits of a head's durability.
BONUS: 0
Total Magnus Snuffer SCORE: 79.58 pts = 8 Golden Arrows
Price: $16.33/head
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Been sitting on this for a while, I think I'm gonna try these this year as my new BH. The fact that it took a concrete block to break it shouldn't phase any one. Simple, sharp, durable, and accurate is really all anyone can ask for.
Yep. Good luck.
Im impressed alot with a nice hole, penetration and flight. Durability was great. Just the typical dulling as with all Stainless heads. I liked the hole in the steel plate.
Yep. Thanks brother.
Thanks for the video. I really appreciate you telling us the type of steel each one is made from
Thank you
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I love your videos and the testing you do is great. I have seen people have deflected arrows from a small sapling they couldn't see and arrows hit concrete blocks trees and even old construction material. So it's nice to see your torture tests. It also gives an idea of how reliably it may hold up hitting bone. So nice job as always. Thanks again
Considering they say to sharpen before use, those aren't exactly dull to begin with! I'm pleasantly impressed
Yep.
It looks like the NAP HELLRAZOR. That has 1 1/8 cut. I use this broadhead. So far so good.
same company who made nap hellrazor before nap shipped production to china makes the snuffer ss for us.
Thanks for clarifying that Mike!
Do these broadheads have the lifetime guarantee replacement is so I’ll be ditching my hellrazors and picking up a pack of these
Solid 3 blades are insanely tough. If you bare shaft tune your arrow properly with spine and point weight, you don't need vented blades as they are definitely a weaker design.
Yep…though they can shave weight being vented.
John! I just had a pretty cool idea that would 100% take some effort and a hooter shooter but I think it would be worth doing, especially for the broadhead guru!
If you were to perfectly tune a bow where you get same broadhead POA/POI at like 80 yards then purposefully ruin the tune (like 5 clicks left and down) then re-zero your sight with the field point, you could shoot a whole bunch of different broadheads and compare their deviations from center with a ruler. If you were to get a hooter shooter or similar bow shooting machine, I think it would be even more scientific.
Either way, thanks for your efforts!
Yeah. As much as I’d like one, there are insurmountable problems: 1. They cost $thousands. 2. They are a royal pain to set up. 3. I don’t have a stationary place to set one up where I can shoot 80 yds and leave it there.
Thanks for responding! Completely understandable. With a microadjustable rest, using a standard number of clicks, say 10 left or something for each broadhead, you could set up two targets side by side and shoot at 40 or so. That would allow you to have an actual number/score for your "forgiveness" or arrow flight. In my mind forgiveness is how well the broadhead is going to stay on target with some added torque or an untuned bow.@@LuskArcheryAdventures
Been running them for years.
👍
I have said it before I think your testing is forcing broadhead companies to up their game and we all benefit from your testing regiment. You’re the on TH-cam contributor I watch religiously no pun intended.
Thanks brother :)
Snuffer been snuffing out game for years maybe not blocks but a deer and elk for sure
we have had many bowhunters love the snuffer ss and who have taken multiple big game animals with the same broadhead
Yes sir
G5 Montec and NAP Hellrazor are similar designs. But I give the edge to G5 due to its one piece construction. We see how the welds are the weak point in this video.
Yep...I'm testing the Hellrazor in 2024--already bought a pack. But those welds are a weak point.
I was a detective once. Your wall of foam tells me some arrows live past that that fence line you have there. The field back there is the new “basement “
Haha. None have gotten thru yet
Honestly the head penetrated farther than most of the heads I've seen shot into the concrete and I only think the blades broke off because you could see the arrow torque and they were embeded so far they couldn't fall back out like most heads do so they sheared off. I don't think you would have any problem with this head on an animal.
I largely agree…but the welds are a weak spot either way.
Not enough solid surfave area on it if that makes sense! looked flimsy from the get go in my opinion but another great test!
Flimsy?? Did you not see the mdf and steel plate results?
Thank you. It did quite well thru most of the testing. The cinder block is only 3% of the total score.
You should test some magnus classics
we sold the magnus classic line in 2010 to thundervalley archery who went out of business a couple of years later.
Thanks for the comment Mike.
I love how he still spins it after the concrete test when there's nothing there 😂
Haha. Gotta be consistent :)
I was not disappointed with the concrete test lol I said all those welds will
Break
:)
Snuff the snuffer
Thanks for watching
NAP Hellrazor please?
Just finished testing them. It will be coming soon. But it was in a batch of 25 heads, so I will start posting them soon.
Never went over cut diameter
Ok
I laughed so hard @ 4:43
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Mr Roger Rathhaar design.. he hand built them back in the day ..
we owned the rothaar snuffer from 1991 to 2010 and we designed the snuffer ss as a smaller version to the snuffer.
Thanks for the clarification Mike
That's Rothhaar. Great hunter, taxidermist, broadhead maker, book author!!
Well as long as we don't hunt concrete blocks ... we all should be good.
Yeah, still haven't found a way to make cinder blocks into good table fare lol
@@mot0rhe4d40 I smoke all my cinder block 14-16 hrs 👍😁🤡🌎
@@anthonyforfare7223 Tony I think I would rather take all those hard harvested cinder blocks and use them to make the smoker lol.
Good luck in the woods boys 👍
@@mot0rhe4d40 wow I’ll try that out. Dang now I feel really stupid.😂🤣😅
Thanks for making me laugh 😂
God bless 🙏😇🥰
@@anthonyforfare7223 Same to you as well 👍
jb weld no problem
:)
Has any broadhead ever failed the angled shot test?
I think rage and some other weird mechanicals
Only one. I hate that test. I’m dropping it in 2024
Looks like a g5
Magnus came out well before G5.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures G5 is made from one piece of steel. So I gotta believe a G5 would be tougher than something that’s welded together. Right?
I bought 3 100 gr last year. Dull when I got them. I reduced one of them by about 25 gr trying to sharpen it. Still dull. No thanks.
Those Stay Sharp Guide 344s work very well
Not for me
@@LuskArcheryAdventures not for me
G5 carbon copy
Snuffer been around way longer than g5 lol also lifetime warranty.
Well, I think the Magnus Snuffer came out way before G5 was even formed.
We came out with the snuffer ss in 2012 and G5 was already making the montec, the montec is a poured broadhead and we didnot copy it after the montec,. We produced the snuffer ss to be a smaller version of the original Rothaar snuffer which we owned from 1999 to 2010 when we sold the rothaar snuffer to thundervalley archery. Thanks
I am hopping over to the G5 video to comment they copied snuffer
:) Magnus purchased the original Snuffer design a long time ago, then made this SS shorter version.
G5 is one piece. Snuffer is welded. That makes G5 superior in my opinion.
Everyone trying to copy the G5 Montec lol, just buy those, im a welder and i was suspicious of those blades from the start
Yeah, well. Magnus has been around a lot longer than G5 :)
@LuskArcheryAdventures oh by a long long time also, never the less, this is a welded replica of the g5 and didn't hold up to your legendary testing! :-) I bought SEVR 2.0 because of you! Lol