@Ichabod Crane not a fan of any company , I've owned nearly every garrett there ever was , put simply they are shit , put a piece of iron next to gold ring and run the coil across it 😂 i beg you 😂😂
@Ichabod Crane minelabs overpriced ? The vanquish is cheaper than the apex and a far better machine in a field or park scenario, you can pay thousands for machines that are nothing to do with minelab , I think you need to do some research regarding this matter and how machines work in general , take that Apex into iron infested soil and you will see , they love deep iron 😉
Just watched some of your other videos great review. You must have so good soil. Ive seen similiar test where the apex isnt hitting like that. Crazy that the 340 hit hard on those as well
Great video coop. Glad to see you review this one as I have been curious about its performance. As always thanks for a professional review, and I'm looking forward to our next hunt soon. Cheers!
I have one and hate it. Unless the coin is 2" or less the VDI jumps all over the place. Sure it will find stuff but you will have zero clue what it is until you dig it up. I have heard that putting a raider coil on it will make it a better machine, but should you have to?
Have a ? For you, say you had to pick between two detectors and they were the equinox 800 and the amphibio with the multi frequency , which one would you choose? Thanks Bob
yes i agree 100% as a long time ATPro user I was sad this wasnt a true Nox killer but they did it on purpose. We shall see a Garrett AT Apex or maybe Apex Pro series soon, smart move by them. Another reason they wont end up like others, out of business.
Dobry test, zastanawialem sie nad Garettem, moj pierwszy wykrywacz VLF Polskiej mysli technicznej, i produkcji ( wykonanie garazowe, elektronik tak dorabiał) zakupilem go 25lat temu, po dzis dzien nie ma nic lepszego na depozyty, penetruje na 2m 💪 dwa lata temu zakupilem simplexa, pochodzilem wczesniej z porzyczonym Garettem (200) , ale nie zrobil na mnie wrazenia, za to z simplexem milosc od pierwszego chodzenia 😅😍 pozdrawiam!
It's working perfectly! Having iron audio on in trashy ground is going to be so squeaky. It needs to be learned and tuned to suit the search site. I bought one for its beach mode and love it for that. Highly recommended.
That's exactly right. What I don't understand is why people believe in commercials so much. Garrett anything isn't as good as a lot of the competition but people watch those tv shows and believe all the nonsense. I love American made products! But I'm not buying something thats sub par.
A real good entry level detector, so too the Cont' Multi-IQ ML Vanquish. Sadly, the technology of both is massively compromised by their lack of submersible/100% water-proofing omissions. Crazy. Renders them both nigh on useless in the creeks, and most importantly, salt -water environs. Pity that.
@@sscindercoop True words. Just my opinion. . Do not get me wrong, I am not promoting any MD, I just feel, for me, it can be done, and it isn't financially constraining. If I were to buy a 21st C entry level MD for my boy, for sub £350? Waterproof. Robust. Work-man like. It'd be false economy not to.
Tim Rogers you’re thinking like a consumer, not a manufacturer. Waterproofing the Vanquish would cannibalize sales from The Equinox 600, and 800 to a degree.
@@Ferrous_Bueller Yep, I can see your point man to a certain extent.... Mind you, waterproofing Simplex hasn't 'Impact'-ed or negated Multi-Kruzer/ Anfibio sales though, no more than waterproofing F22 and F44 made a dent on the higher end FTP Md's. It simply made them a more 'rounded ' option as intro level MD's....Just my lil ol' opinion man.... It is what it be..I just swing them for hours on end!. The best of wishes to Garrett; Mine Lab too. They are greatly respected by an awful lot of people... I ran a 800 hard for 2+ years. Hard stubble/stalk/wood and plough...Great tech for sure, but it kept having component parts breakages, over and again... Sadly, I had to sell it off cheaply, and revert back to my original MD. Gutted wasn't the word after waiting many moons to get my hands on one of the second batch. Maybe mine was gubbed though? Stay safe fella. You do a great video.
@@KernowekTim Definitely appreciate your opinion, I like gabbing about detectors so always fun to discuss. In regards to the Vanquish, I can put it in greater perspective and why Minelab doesn't have the incentive to waterproof compared to the companies you mentioned. Minelab has always dominated the high end high price detector market, and they've been slowly dabbling in the low end. Minelab doesn't have any incentive to waterproof the Vanquish, because that would start cannibalizing sales from the Equinox. FTP has always dominated the low end market, and they are the king of low end big box sales. FTP detectors are sold in every Dicks, Walmart, Costco, etc etc etc all over the U.S. Adding water resistance (not waterproofing, the F22 and F44 are only resistant like the Apex) only serves to upsell their dominant position in the low end of the market. Nokta-Makro is in a different position, as they weren't really defined until the Simplex. They tried to dominate in the mid-to-high end market, which they started doing really well in until the Equinox dropped and took the wind out of their sails. Then the Simplex dropped and gave them a huge position in the low end market...for them it made sense to waterproof a low cost detector to capture a position they didn't have. While Nokta_Makro had a slow but growing loyal following, the Simplex is what put them on the map and opened them up as an option to the common man that didn't live on detecting forums and super into the hobby. A good buddy of mine that is a dealer said that the Nokta-Makro North Amercia manager told him that the Simplex was a massive seller, but undercut their other offerings like the Anfibio and Kruzer, but they hope to recapture that mid-to-high segment with a multi-frequency waterproof unit. So in effect, I believe that what we are both saying is correct, just correct for different companies.
sscindercoop i guess it's tried and tested technology with the minelabs. I have been in two minds about which to get, I like the look of the apex, but if the vanquish performs better then I'll go with that. Thanks for the reply!
When you say a little late in the game exactly what do you mean by that just truly curious why Garret users shouldn’t have the best available technology and this is from someone who’s never owned one nor cares too just such a weird statement lol and also this has a data port so 100% its gonna be updatable at some point
@@treasurehuntingnewyork5979 there is companies that have had this technology for awhile now is what I'm saying. They are a little bit behind the curve right now. I was hoping for something new out of them, something above the playing field. Not something even with.
This has to be one of the worst detectors on the market. i have one and wish i had saved my money. just shows this has not been tested and rushed out for sale
The problem is that they put these machines in the hands of people who have no idea what they were doing or are paid to promote any product they make. Sorry your not happy with your purchase. If ya have any questions on other machines I'd be glad to help I've owned and used most of them. Hh coop
My brother bought one to replace his Ace 400. He had it about 2 weeks before he sent it back. It will only ID coins accurately to about 2 inches in the ground, after that the ID numbers bounce all over the scale. And the depth maxes out around 6 inches. The Ace 400 is easily a couple inches deeper with more stable ID at depth.
That thing would drive me nuts . The vanquish would thrash that .
@Ichabod Crane not a fan of any company , I've owned nearly every garrett there ever was , put simply they are shit , put a piece of iron next to gold ring and run the coil across it 😂 i beg you 😂😂
@Ichabod Crane minelabs overpriced ? The vanquish is cheaper than the apex and a far better machine in a field or park scenario, you can pay thousands for machines that are nothing to do with minelab , I think you need to do some research regarding this matter and how machines work in general , take that Apex into iron infested soil and you will see , they love deep iron 😉
@Ichabod Crane A.T.X 😂 the old Nokia 3310 😂
Thanks for the review man, going with minelab equinox 600
Good choice! Hh
Just watched some of your other videos great review. You must have so good soil. Ive seen similiar test where the apex isnt hitting like that. Crazy that the 340 hit hard on those as well
Thanks!! soil is mild and the apex is still really struggling. Just needs more depth, maybe a bigger coil. Hh coop
Great video coop. Glad to see you review this one as I have been curious about its performance. As always thanks for a professional review, and I'm looking forward to our next hunt soon. Cheers!
Thanks dude!! We will dig soon lol
Do you think this is better than the Minelab Vanquish 540? I am mostly interested in using it on the beach.
I would go with the minelab 100% over this Apex
@@sscindercoop Thanks
I have one and hate it. Unless the coin is 2" or less the VDI jumps all over the place. Sure it will find stuff but you will have zero clue what it is until you dig it up. I have heard that putting a raider coil on it will make it a better machine, but should you have to?
I agree this machine is a flop!
You obviously don't know how to use it lmao!!
Have a ? For you, say you had to pick between two detectors and they were the equinox 800 and the amphibio with the multi frequency , which one would you choose? Thanks Bob
Easy choice equinox
@@sscindercoop thanks, hoping you'd say that
Looks ok for a beginner detector.
Yup should be a good entry level machine
Great video, this is the first review of this machine that I've seen. Looks pretty decent.
Thanks for watching hh!!
fully submersible should be the standard in this day and age
yes i agree 100% as a long time ATPro user I was sad this wasnt a true Nox killer but they did it on purpose. We shall see a Garrett AT Apex or maybe Apex Pro series soon, smart move by them. Another reason they wont end up like others, out of business.
Seemed to work pretty good. I hunt in all metal mode n dig all targets. Use a xt705 infinium apex n goldbug.
I would sell them all and get a minelab equinox.
Garrett apex vs garrett gold?
Dobry test, zastanawialem sie nad Garettem, moj pierwszy wykrywacz VLF Polskiej mysli technicznej, i produkcji ( wykonanie garazowe, elektronik tak dorabiał) zakupilem go 25lat temu, po dzis dzien nie ma nic lepszego na depozyty, penetruje na 2m 💪 dwa lata temu zakupilem simplexa, pochodzilem wczesniej z porzyczonym Garettem (200) , ale nie zrobil na mnie wrazenia, za to z simplexem milosc od pierwszego chodzenia 😅😍 pozdrawiam!
It's working perfectly! Having iron audio on in trashy ground is going to be so squeaky. It needs to be learned and tuned to suit the search site. I bought one for its beach mode and love it for that. Highly recommended.
Not true was used with iron audio very low. Has no depth, no vdi and chatters. Glad u like yours
it's for beginners and kids...take your money and buy an Nokta Simplex.
Trying to buy one but still out of stock in UK.
That's a sign lol
Great review, thanks for the info. New sub, have a great weekend!
Thanks for watching hh!!
always good info coop, keepem coming
Thanks!
If I can add one thing this does have a data port so I’m expecting it to be updatable at home at some point all hope might not be lost
Have there been downloadable updates?
@@JustinMurray170fin yes there is currently one update that added more depth and other features not quite sure
Just because something is the best seller that definitely doesn't make it the best. Advertising is the key.
That's my point! Think they are trying to target the weekend warrior with this machine. Thanks for watching hh
That's exactly right. What I don't understand is why people believe in commercials so much. Garrett anything isn't as good as a lot of the competition but people watch those tv shows and believe all the nonsense. I love American made products! But I'm not buying something thats sub par.
Great review. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching hh!!
I appreciate the review...great video!
Thanks for watching!! hh coop
Thanks for the review 👍
Thanks for watching!!
A real good entry level detector, so too the Cont' Multi-IQ ML Vanquish. Sadly, the technology of both is massively compromised by their lack of submersible/100% water-proofing omissions. Crazy. Renders them both nigh on useless in the creeks, and most importantly, salt -water environs. Pity that.
You gotta look at what ya get for the money. Cant sell a flag ship if the entry has most of the same features
@@sscindercoop True words. Just my opinion. . Do not get me wrong, I am not promoting any MD, I just feel, for me, it can be done, and it isn't financially constraining. If I were to buy a 21st C entry level MD for my boy, for sub £350? Waterproof. Robust. Work-man like. It'd be false economy not to.
Tim Rogers you’re thinking like a consumer, not a manufacturer. Waterproofing the Vanquish would cannibalize sales from The Equinox 600, and 800 to a degree.
@@Ferrous_Bueller Yep, I can see your point man to a certain extent.... Mind you, waterproofing Simplex hasn't 'Impact'-ed or negated Multi-Kruzer/ Anfibio sales though, no more than waterproofing F22 and F44 made a dent on the higher end FTP Md's. It simply made them a more 'rounded ' option as intro level MD's....Just my lil ol' opinion man.... It is what it be..I just swing them for hours on end!. The best of wishes to Garrett; Mine Lab too. They are greatly respected by an awful lot of people... I ran a 800 hard for 2+ years. Hard stubble/stalk/wood and plough...Great tech for sure, but it kept having component parts breakages, over and again... Sadly, I had to sell it off cheaply, and revert back to my original MD. Gutted wasn't the word after waiting many moons to get my hands on one of the second batch. Maybe mine was gubbed though? Stay safe fella. You do a great video.
@@KernowekTim Definitely appreciate your opinion, I like gabbing about detectors so always fun to discuss. In regards to the Vanquish, I can put it in greater perspective and why Minelab doesn't have the incentive to waterproof compared to the companies you mentioned. Minelab has always dominated the high end high price detector market, and they've been slowly dabbling in the low end. Minelab doesn't have any incentive to waterproof the Vanquish, because that would start cannibalizing sales from the Equinox. FTP has always dominated the low end market, and they are the king of low end big box sales. FTP detectors are sold in every Dicks, Walmart, Costco, etc etc etc all over the U.S. Adding water resistance (not waterproofing, the F22 and F44 are only resistant like the Apex) only serves to upsell their dominant position in the low end of the market. Nokta-Makro is in a different position, as they weren't really defined until the Simplex. They tried to dominate in the mid-to-high end market, which they started doing really well in until the Equinox dropped and took the wind out of their sails. Then the Simplex dropped and gave them a huge position in the low end market...for them it made sense to waterproof a low cost detector to capture a position they didn't have. While Nokta_Makro had a slow but growing loyal following, the Simplex is what put them on the map and opened them up as an option to the common man that didn't live on detecting forums and super into the hobby. A good buddy of mine that is a dealer said that the Nokta-Makro North Amercia manager told him that the Simplex was a massive seller, but undercut their other offerings like the Anfibio and Kruzer, but they hope to recapture that mid-to-high segment with a multi-frequency waterproof unit. So in effect, I believe that what we are both saying is correct, just correct for different companies.
I would hope Garrett would incorporate auto ground balance since they now own White's technology. Please don't let White's legacy down.
Hate to say it but whites let whites down by repackaging the same old technology over and over
Apex or vanquish?
I prefer the vanquish
sscindercoop i guess it's tried and tested technology with the minelabs. I have been in two minds about which to get, I like the look of the apex, but if the vanquish performs better then I'll go with that. Thanks for the reply!
@@sscindercoop I second that!
@@gprice1978 Looks won't find good targets. Performance will!
Did the Nox perform better?
Much better but also cost a lot more. This is an entry level machine. Thanks for watching hh
@@sscindercoop Dumb question.
Think Ill keep my $199 Vanquish 340 as my backup
That detector is a great value!
I was extremely disappointed with the performance of the apex in my test bed. It performed the worst out of all my detectors.
No thanx...I'll stick to my Whites MXT All Pro....
Well that’s terrible along with the not being fully waterproof slap in the face I would say do not buy
Little late to get in the game with this technology. Lol
Hopefully it's the start of something great, if they make a flag ship version that runs all freq at once that will be a game changer
When you say a little late in the game exactly what do you mean by that just truly curious why Garret users shouldn’t have the best available technology and this is from someone who’s never owned one nor cares too just such a weird statement lol and also this has a data port so 100% its gonna be updatable at some point
@@treasurehuntingnewyork5979 there is companies that have had this technology for awhile now is what I'm saying. They are a little bit behind the curve right now. I was hoping for something new out of them, something above the playing field. Not something even with.
OMG.....not good
Yeah I wasn't impressed at all unfortunately. Thanks for watching hh
Screw that
Lol
This has to be one of the worst detectors on the market. i have one and wish i had saved my money. just shows this has not been tested and rushed out for sale
The problem is that they put these machines in the hands of people who have no idea what they were doing or are paid to promote any product they make. Sorry your not happy with your purchase. If ya have any questions on other machines I'd be glad to help I've owned and used most of them. Hh coop
My brother bought one to replace his Ace 400. He had it about 2 weeks before he sent it back. It will only ID coins accurately to about 2 inches in the ground, after that the ID numbers bounce all over the scale. And the depth maxes out around 6 inches. The Ace 400 is easily a couple inches deeper with more stable ID at depth.