Which Countries Are Still at War from WW2? - WW2 - OOTF 37
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- It’s time for another exciting episode of Out of the Foxholes! What sort of questions will Indy tackle today? Well, there’s a big one - are there any countries still at war from WW2? There’s another about the role of the Italian Mafia in the war, and one on Japan’s extra Special Naval Landing Forces.
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....."Out of the trench-holes"?
Out of the Pocket?
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Out of the Perimeter?
Past the Perimeter!
After the video of the many faces of Indy Neidell, the many voices of Indy Neidell at 4:50
I thought my speakers broke lol
4:50 'Earthlings! I demand to see your leader!'
Concerning SNLF and infantry training, that wasn't unique to Japan as even the US Navy trained Sailors in infantry tactics in boot camp before, during and after WW2, and maintained the ability to create landing forces of armed Sailors from ship's crews until the 1970s. An earlier example of US Sailors used in combat as a landing force would be in Vera Cruz.
On my destroyer, in the late 60s, a portion of the crew were designated the ship's landing party. As a Hospital Corpsman, I was assigned to that party, and since I had noncombatant status, I was issued a 1911A1 .45 cal. pistol for the defense of any potential wounded and myself. The rest carried Thompson submachine guns, Browning Automatic Rifles, or M1 Garands. Yes, we were still using leftovers from WWII and Korea.
My Dad was trained by the Marines after he finished his tech school in 1945. He ended up in China after the end of the war.
The bloodiest fight of the SNLF was in the Battle of Manila 1945. The whole contingent of 17,000 SNLF under Admiral Iwabuchi was annihilated, taking hundreds of thousands Filipino civilians with them to the afterlife along with thousands of US Army soldiers.
Greece and Albania are still at war, technically, because in order to contact war on the territory of Albania which was then under Italian occupation, we declared war on Albania as well. And since there has never been an international agreement ending it, we are still at war.
I don't think it is a real issue. There is no state of war between Greece and Albania. It is an "issue" solely from the Albanian perspective.
@@Imperator_Gr true, but the original question in the video was if there are any countries still in a state of war as a result of WW2 and technically this is still the case for us and Albania
@@ΙωάννηςΚήτος Which is not actually true since the Greek government under Papandreou did revoke it.
@@Imperator_Gr a government decision (even if we assume that it was a legal one, because as I recall this was just a decision by the Council of Ministers which is an unofficial instrument) doesn't end a war, there has to be an international agreement with the other party, that is why we continue to the present day the relevant discussion with Albania
Has TimeGhost done a video about the Italian occupation of Albania?
Why were the V1 and V2 missiles never used against the Russians?
Because there is so much more land in the USSR and high value targets much more dispersed than in the UK. Soviet war infrastructure had been moved all the way to the Urals by 1942, which are much, much further away than just across the English Channel. In short: These weapons were strategic, not tactical, and the UK's strategic targets were much closer.
Editing this comment to also add that one of the objectives of the V-weapons was to degrade enemy morale. Thus these weapons would have far more of an impact if fired at London, a densely-populated enemy capital, as opposed to what few razed Soviet cities were in range as the front drew nearer in 1944.
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What the Japanese called Naval Landing Forces we traditionally called a Shore Party, members of the ships crew that on an ad-hoc basis would be assigned to support the Marines during landing operations such as rowing boats, hauling supplies, hauling and operating cannon and acting as auxiliary troops.
It's just a difference of words really, but yes they were essentially just shore parties in their early history. The SNLF did become a more USMC-reminiscent force when its formations started become permanent in the early-1930s, going as far as to train their own armored and airborne arms.
Who's still here even after the war ended??
Maybe like when the allies and Germany forgot that Andorra were still at war 18 years after the treaty of Versailles?
The war is still ongoing :3
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Oh no - Indy's been into the panzerschokolade again. Must have been some birthday party ;)
Indy trying Pico in Prague in the 1990s: I feel great! Twenty Hours Later: I don't feel so great.
A six-pounder maybe?!
My grandfather was lucky's "driver " and did "his books". He spent over 20 years in the army. He always talked about secret mission to Italy, north Africa, and turkey in a merchant marine vessel in late 42 or 43 with blue in the name but couldn't remember full name. It was him as e4 a colonel and a merchant marine captain. I've looked everywhere for anything that resembles that mission and have found nothing. But have "confirmed" his claims about lucky through family and he was in several major battles in ww2.
Is this the REAL Indi?
Let’s go! More OOTF!
Greece and Albania are still technically at war, although there were discussions to end the state of war, there is still no official treaty signed and ratified by the parliaments.
There are still bilateral problems between the two countries regarding the rights of a Greek minority in Albania and Albanians who were driven out of Greece as collaborators of the Axis, a similar situation to the Sudetes of Czechoslovakia.
The funny part of it is that both Greece and Albania are both NATO allies and the Hellenic and Italian Air Forces are to protect the Albanian air space in times of war.
Sweden and San Marino signed a peace treaty not so many decades ago, after having been in war for 3-4 hundred years.
Whoever asked the first question needs to go look into the OSS and formation of the CIA. The answer to the question is YES!
Cesari Mori sounds exactly like a character from a mafia movie
Pretty sure the US is still fighting the CIVIL WAR lol
Yep. And it is about to heat up once again
I really liked this episode running longer. These questions are always very interesting, and I appreciate the detail of your answers.
I think Out of the Foxholes episodes should have a framed picture of the Chair of Infinite Knowledge on the table. hehehe
SNLFs were among those responsible for the worst atrocities in the Battle of Manila
Bring back the Chair of Wisdom!
It's quite a mess. I think that sums it up as well as it can be.
Regarding the disputed Kuriles: are the residents primarily Japanese or not? Seems to me like the split of the islands between Japan and Russia should be defined by who actually lives there.
None of the residents are Japanese. As noted in the episode, all Japanese residents were deported. USSR, and later Russia, moved Russians into those islands. Currently there's about 20k people living there.
Yeah the Japanese populace either evacuated or were forcibly deported so its not as simple an answer as it seems. Especially since this deportation occured within living memory as there are Japanese people alive today who lived through the deportation.
@@firstcynic92 If we're letting the Russians keep Kalingrad because they depopulated it of non-Russians and repopulated with Russians after WW2 then I see no reason not to let Russia keep all of the Kuriles that were similarly depopulated of Japanese after WW2 and repopulated with Russians.
And before anyone calls me a Tankie: Crimea should be part of Ukraine. There's a difference between what happened 75 years ago, in a war the Germans and Japanese started, compared to what happened a decade in a war the Russians started.
and lansky was born in Belarus.
Mafia ? Never heard of it.
Why, why, why always the endlessly irritating 'music' in the background? I think we are all able to just simply listen to someone speak. Simply speak.
Read of someone who was very involved with The Normandie who told the fire chief he could go down and open the seacocks which would have the ship settle upright. The chief told him where to go as he was in charge and didn't want to be told anything. Result was too much water on top area of the ship caused it to turn over. Some people can be very arrogant with bad outcomes.
I actually brought the question about the mafia and Sicily in a uni lecture around 20 years ago and was ignored by the professor.
WRT the Mafia, growing up in Montreal I always heard there was a similar deal to keep the docks running & suppress the unions. We would drive by a small mansion on the lake that I was told was given to the head mafioso as a reward.
The most important element of the Japanese SNLF is that they were ground forces over which the Navy exercised authority. If nore substantial forces were required, the Navy would have to negotiate with their deadly enemies, the Japanese Army. It's a lot like the way the US Army has helicopters because they're something it CAN have within its own chain of command without the Air Force asserting jurisdiction.
South Korean historians and military often mentioned involvement of former Japanese officers in training of PRC and NK personnel before outbreak of Korean War.
Lansky's name tends to come up a lot when discussing the history of the FBI and CIA. Certainly looks like there was a long relationship between the mob and CIA/OSS.
Unfortunately a lot of ones USA citizens do not support but USA govt. does. That's why USA govt. never will ask for a vote on that - it would be too democratic.
Ah, good ol' Out Of The Foxholes! You do realise that this is only the appetiser for the main event, which I am just about to click on now...
Yes, i was looking for the shoutout to the Burma civil war as a direct result of Ww2.
I could not find sources on this, but after Poland declared war on Japan, Japan rejected this declaration and two never signed peace treaty, which would make them still at war? or not at al?
My read on Navel Landing Force is that they are literally members of a ships crew. quarter master here, a machinist mates, gunners mates & none rated seaman.
We spend a night in Corleone, Sicily but no maffia parachutists.
You aren't even going to cover the mafia stealing Mussolini's hat, what kind of channel is this?
ww1 question: i know the imperial german navy could not beat the royal navy in an actual fight, but could they have done enough damage to make a blockade of germany unsustainable ?
If they could've, they would've done so.
@@Kubinda12345 well if the german government didnt think their ships were more valuable then their soldiers maybe
No, unless the Royal Navy were completely incompetent. The best the Germans could do was a draw in the Battle of Jutland (1916), Despite doing damage to the Royal Navy, the Imperial German Navy simply wasn't big enough (the RN had almost a 2-1 advantage in heavy ships).
In addition, the Germans were lucky to escape the battle, there was a real risk that the IGN would have been wiped out if the RN had acted more decisively. The German fleet suviving fleet was severely damaged and was in dry dock for several months being repaired. The UK took severe losses and Admiral Sir John Jellicoe was blamed for not getting a victory, but the Germans realized they almost lost their entire fleet.
The Germans needed a bigger fleet (with more Dreadnoughts), but the UK was never going to lose that lead they had going into the war. Also, it was VERY expensive to built Dreadnoughts, and the Germans devoted more resources to their Army, while the UK spent more on their navy.
@@johnf7683 thank you :)
My question may not be answered but at least you’re Indy Neidel once again.
Does this mean we will have 79 years of new episodes?
Just a small point: A captain's rank insignia is silver, not gold.
wake up babe, Indy has dropped another vid
Deep dives require more time. Yes, yes, yes I say! Keep it deep.
yeah I got a question. Where's the TIe's?
Are planning to do US Civil War?
Congrats on a million subs
I wait for this content
Another great episode!
Good morning
Isn't their a dispute over some territory between Russia and Finland?
No, not officially. The border is where it now is, according to papers signed by both parties. There's always been an internal Karjala takaisin, Karelia back, group in Finland. Wisely or unwisely, no real geopolitical talk, let alone official demands, have ever come out of that.
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thumbs up number 665... soooo close.. lol
Finland and Germany? Lapland War continue?
No.
Finland and Germany did not sign a peace treaty, but agreed in 1955 that the war was over.
Once again, Thailand is ignored. They're still going until 1946.
10th, 28 September 2024
so since you mention Israel , was there ever a Palestinian before 1988 no. never
ROC is not a country, full stop.
There are three stops. R.O.C.