They should. Two small high usage point guards neither of whom can go to the corner and do a "catch and shoot" three can ever expect constitute a championship backcourt. If Mitchell is willing to sign long term, trade Garland for someone like Devin Vessey or one of the NOLA wings. It will be easier to find a decent sized two guard than a large "3 and D" wing anyway.
@@dearmas9068The question isn’t whether JB is a T1 coach. The question is whether is style is one that fits with this team as it has to be constituted to get out of the midrange in the East. I don’t think any of the Cavs success (if you can call it that) in the last couple years is due to JB. He did a good job establishing a culture on a different roster. The needs of the team are different now. I don’t know if the other guys will be a giant success, but you have to try a different philosophy.
Lol. I look at it as more of addition by subtraction. In the games Donovan missed this year Darius was wildly inconsistent when he could have stepped and gave more production. Also, they just don't fit together. Darius is too big of a liability on defense and I'm sick of seeing it.
@@420Meatwad I agree his offensive game can be off the charts but his defensive lapses is too much of a liability. He just puts no effort towards defense
Only peons who follow media narratives would address this over the need to trade Jarrett Allen and break up the front court.. That unlocks this offense for everyone else… Evan Mobley at the 5 is the only thing this team needs.. maybe another dominant 4… if they could pull off an all star wing for JA and keep everyone else WATCH OUT
JA is their defensive anchor. Keep him and Mobley. The new coach just needs to run plays to get Mobley more mid range and 3pt shots when Allen is on the floor. Do what Minnesota did with Towns and Gobert.
How about this...Jarrett Allen can shoot 3s....did you know that??...he even has a HIGHLIGHT MIX from college to pros...shooting threes...lots of corner 3s too...thats why im glad we fired JB Bickerstaff..because of his play calls...rotations...matchups..sets...he completely went away from what worked...like a PEON...😅😅..we have a great team..fun fact...did you know that when the cavs had 31 or more assists this season...they were UNDEFEATED!??...and so with ball movement and running the 4 out 1 in....with Jarrett Allen being the corner3 and evan mobley setting the screen and dominating at the rim..its ABSOLUTELY a formula for success as uou saw when they won 21 out of 24 games....jb just didnt knoww what he was doing...
@@dearmas9068 his natural position is 5.. he was converted to 4 when he got drafted. We can’t afford the waste 4 more years trying to turn him into a dominant 4 when we clearly saw he can thrive at his natural position
Y'all clearly can't see how Mitchell's game impacts Garland's strengths & vice versus... Garland is not a shooting guard just cause he can hit jumpers... He's not a pure scorer like Mitchell...He get his points in the flow of being a distributor... Mitchell can't run the point like Garland... He can't run the pick & roll like Garland & got tunnel vision as a passer... Mitchell get assists because of his ability to score, not because he's an anticipatory facilitator... Strus is a better type of 2 guard next to Garland than Mitchell is... But playing that way negates Mitchell's strengths...💯💯💯
@@henrybiggs3113 bro you did not just say that I will take spida at the 1 over garland ALL DAY LONG LIKE HES BEEN IN THE LEAGUE 5 years now and STILL GETS CAUGHT IN THE AIR TURNS THE BALL OVER AT THE WORST TIMES OOSSIBLE EVEN WITHOUT DONOVAN IN THE LINEUP HE STILL CANT SCORE BE EFFICIENT FACILITATE ETC IVE never seen a max player miss layups 5 times a GAME BARE MINIMUM I would love to trade dg asap he is not worth the money. He is getting paid at all.
@@exceptionallife4768 because it’s a contract year that’s even more motivation to trade. Plus Kawhi and AD were traded in contract years. They both brought back either brought back a boatload of picks or all star level talent. Harden only had two years on his deal if I’m not mistaken and was traded for a ton of picks. Then he was traded again for two firsts, players, and a swap to LA.
Under no circumstances do you trade Mitchell if he wants to stay lol. That would be organizational malpractice of the highest order. There’s nothing you’re going to get back that gets you to a chip, unless Evan Mobley takes the leap of all leaps AND you get All Star DG back, AND you get depth pieces to shore up the bench. All of those things happening at once are unlikely.
Are you even a Cavs fan? I’m pretty flabbergasted by your egregious comment. The man who has single handedly carried this team to the playoffs, for the years that he’s been an addition on the team. Surely, you are either trolling, to get a rise out of someone, or you’re just wanting to see this team fail, and aren’t a true Cleveland basketball fan. Now which one of those two is it? Because certainly, if you were a fan, you would know that would be the demise of this teams playoff aspirations.
Sit in your chair, engage your brain, and ask yourself “does this dumb ass comment make sense?” before you make the comment. It will save you from looking stupid. Just for future references……You’ve already made yourself look like a dipshit here.
NO 1st get a Coach who does not fall into the trap of falling into the status quo whenever he gets stuck. JB was a good Coach for the rebuild or the finish but not for getting over the middle hump.
Sheesh. Windy was a little snappy here
DG wants out if Mitchell extends. SO it really doesn't matter if the new coach has a better plan to hide them in the playoffs.
I wonder did DG really say that because they look like they really respect each other
@@Kitk2022
Klutch sports confirmed it publicly.
@@Kitk2022seek help.
They should. Two small high usage point guards neither of whom can go to the corner and do a "catch and shoot" three can ever expect constitute a championship backcourt. If Mitchell is willing to sign long term, trade Garland for someone like Devin Vessey or one of the NOLA wings. It will be easier to find a decent sized two guard than a large "3 and D" wing anyway.
Unless Garland is into giving refunds or can show up more than once every 12 games he's gotta go 👍👍
More like 16 good minutes 😂😂
So they want to downgrade at coach with atkinson or borrego??
Stotts is old but I think will be a better choice
JB was pretty damn bad. I think Atkinson is better but we really should have fired JB last year when there were a lot of good coaches out there.
@@dearmas9068The question isn’t whether JB is a T1 coach. The question is whether is style is one that fits with this team as it has to be constituted to get out of the midrange in the East. I don’t think any of the Cavs success (if you can call it that) in the last couple years is due to JB. He did a good job establishing a culture on a different roster. The needs of the team are different now. I don’t know if the other guys will be a giant success, but you have to try a different philosophy.
@mrjayfoggy no he wasnt. He has a winning record in 4 years after taking over a rebuilding team
No need to trade anyone until a good coach is hired, and tries to create an offensive identity for the squad...
Get Garland Mo Williams 2.0 ass outta here a short back court hasn't won a championship since Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars
@@MMReason13ummmm golden state???
Because it won’t make much of a difference
Get a great coach and get rid of empty calories like Niang, Jerome, Levert is where I would start
Garland is valuable at 24 and averaging almost 20 points during a bad season his ceiling is very high so get a nice package
In video ads? lol...clicks away
Go Zips!
Small back courts never really win anything
NO !!!
Trading garland would be a catastrophe especially after an injury riddled year
Lol. I look at it as more of addition by subtraction. In the games Donovan missed this year Darius was wildly inconsistent when he could have stepped and gave more production. Also, they just don't fit together. Darius is too big of a liability on defense and I'm sick of seeing it.
All depends what they would get for him but it seems like it would be selling low right now
Darius is a clown
I agree… i love JA as a player but he has to go to allow Evan the room to grow
@@420Meatwad I agree his offensive game can be off the charts but his defensive lapses is too much of a liability. He just puts no effort towards defense
They were never a pair. Garland’s demeanor is not one to win championships
If the Cavs want to win a title without Bron. They have to at the very least trade either DG or Allen.
Garland gotta go he don't care about winning at all aslong as he makes his money
Allen
Only peons who follow media narratives would address this over the need to trade Jarrett Allen and break up the front court..
That unlocks this offense for everyone else… Evan Mobley at the 5 is the only thing this team needs.. maybe another dominant 4… if they could pull off an all star wing for JA and keep everyone else WATCH OUT
JA is their defensive anchor. Keep him and Mobley. The new coach just needs to run plays to get Mobley more mid range and 3pt shots when Allen is on the floor.
Do what Minnesota did with Towns and Gobert.
@@dearmas9068 prove my point then lol
How about this...Jarrett Allen can shoot 3s....did you know that??...he even has a HIGHLIGHT MIX from college to pros...shooting threes...lots of corner 3s too...thats why im glad we fired JB Bickerstaff..because of his play calls...rotations...matchups..sets...he completely went away from what worked...like a PEON...😅😅..we have a great team..fun fact...did you know that when the cavs had 31 or more assists this season...they were UNDEFEATED!??...and so with ball movement and running the 4 out 1 in....with Jarrett Allen being the corner3 and evan mobley setting the screen and dominating at the rim..its ABSOLUTELY a formula for success as uou saw when they won 21 out of 24 games....jb just didnt knoww what he was doing...
@@dearmas9068 his natural position is 5.. he was converted to 4 when he got drafted. We can’t afford the waste 4 more years trying to turn him into a dominant 4 when we clearly saw he can thrive at his natural position
@@dearmas9068 thanks for the reply, have a good day
Garland was unable to impact in the playoffs. Not a force. Period. You figure it out.
I've seen enough of Garland. Good PG/scorers can finish at the hoop. He can't.
@banditY2K he was by far the best Cav in the series vs the Knicks. You guys are both wrong, because you're way too shortsighted
Y'all clearly can't see how Mitchell's game impacts Garland's strengths & vice versus... Garland is not a shooting guard just cause he can hit jumpers... He's not a pure scorer like Mitchell...He get his points in the flow of being a distributor... Mitchell can't run the point like Garland... He can't run the pick & roll like Garland & got tunnel vision as a passer... Mitchell get assists because of his ability to score, not because he's an anticipatory facilitator... Strus is a better type of 2 guard next to Garland than Mitchell is... But playing that way negates Mitchell's strengths...💯💯💯
@@henrybiggs3113 bro you did not just say that I will take spida at the 1 over garland ALL DAY LONG LIKE HES BEEN IN THE LEAGUE 5 years now and STILL GETS CAUGHT IN THE AIR TURNS THE BALL OVER AT THE WORST TIMES OOSSIBLE EVEN WITHOUT DONOVAN IN THE LINEUP HE STILL CANT SCORE BE EFFICIENT FACILITATE ETC IVE never seen a max player miss layups 5 times a GAME BARE MINIMUM I would love to trade dg asap he is not worth the money. He is getting paid at all.
@@henrybiggs3113 beautifully said
I’d trade Mitchell for a haul. If you can’t get a haul for him then trade Garland. They gotta break that duo up.
Trade Jarrett Allen not Mitchell… wtf are you talking about… and what haul… his trade value isn’t high enough to get a big haul, it’s a contact year
@@exceptionallife4768 because it’s a contract year that’s even more motivation to trade. Plus Kawhi and AD were traded in contract years. They both brought back either brought back a boatload of picks or all star level talent. Harden only had two years on his deal if I’m not mistaken and was traded for a ton of picks. Then he was traded again for two firsts, players, and a swap to LA.
@@liferealgood don’t forget that championship rings factor into trade value too
Under no circumstances do you trade Mitchell if he wants to stay lol. That would be organizational malpractice of the highest order. There’s nothing you’re going to get back that gets you to a chip, unless Evan Mobley takes the leap of all leaps AND you get All Star DG back, AND you get depth pieces to shore up the bench. All of those things happening at once are unlikely.
@@topherick if he extends that’s a completely different story but I would still breakup that backcourt.
no way trade mitchell
😂😂😂 Mitchell is great player he's a guy you build a team around Garland is just a average player you can find guys the caliber of Garland anywhere.
@@Hawkeye62I'm agree 👍
Also agree, he’s reckless and inconsistent. I’d rather have Mitchell bringing the ball up
Are you even a Cavs fan? I’m pretty flabbergasted by your egregious comment. The man who has single handedly carried this team to the playoffs, for the years that he’s been an addition on the team. Surely, you are either trolling, to get a rise out of someone, or you’re just wanting to see this team fail, and aren’t a true Cleveland basketball fan. Now which one of those two is it? Because certainly, if you were a fan, you would know that would be the demise of this teams playoff aspirations.
Sit in your chair, engage your brain, and ask yourself “does this dumb ass comment make sense?” before you make the comment. It will save you from looking stupid. Just for future references……You’ve already made yourself look like a dipshit here.
NO
1st get a Coach who does not fall into the trap of falling into the status quo whenever he gets stuck.
JB was a good Coach for the rebuild or the finish but not for getting over the middle hump.