They have to if they want to become a championship team. I am not enamored with an undersized pg who isn’t a consistent scorer, turnstile defender, injury and turnover prone. The contract doesn’t fit the player and they don’t have a 3.
I agree, because look at how we kicked off the year of 2024 while Garland was injured: an outstanding record of 17-1 (after losing the first game of 2024) and we were the 2nd seed in the East. But once DG returned from his injury and was inserted back into the starting lineup by Bickerstaff, we never got back to that level of dominance, and that’s why we finished 3 games worse than last season, not to mention finishing 2 wins short of yet another season with at least 50 or more wins.
Everyone forgets that DG was the only Cav who had a good game in playoff series loss to Knicks. He was playing hurt and needs the offseason to fully recover. Also, yoiu guys are assuming Mitchell stays. He still has not signed a long term extension; you're putting so much faith in rumors.
Mobley's three point shooting did improve last season. So the fit is getting better. Also having Allen and Mobley both insures a good team even when one is injured.
The starting 5 only played 20 games together this season. Don't trade darius just to trade him. His value is down from the trade rumors I've seen. I think they should give it 1 more year. Darius looked like a totally different player when he broke his jaw and lost 15 lbs (which is the muscle weight he put on over the offseason).
Trade DG for whom? The Cavs are not one piece away. And Spida is on a much more advance timeline, skillswise than DG, Mobley, etc. The prudent move is to move Spida for more pieces and picks that will coincide with the same timeline as DG and Mobley. Build the roster organically for the long term like the OKC and Orlando did.
they are good when healthy and the proper line ups are being played, and with players in their natural positions and proper spacing. we had the run in the middle of the season that proved this .. and its probably best not to have garland close the games although many would argue, its best to stager garland and mitchel so defensively we dont get torched , .. i just dont like it and never have with a small squad, come playoff time we have bad matchups
Agree with garlands growth being stunted with Mitchell. The jaw injury and loosing all that weight didn't help matters either. Either could lead the cavs to to playoffs next year if one was moved also.
Bring garland off the bench. He'll be six man of the year and give mitchell plenty of rest. A starting five of wade, Allen, Mobley, Mitchell, and at the 2 spot Merrill/strus/ocoro/Bates. This lineup holds teams under one hundred point while the cavaliers score plenty. This front court only needs to score forty five points. Don't forget, the cavaliers were the most feared team in the league when they won seventeen out of eighteen with the same players they have right now. They just need a rearrangement of the deck chairs.
I think you have a higher ceiling by trading Allen and moving Mobley to the 5. You can skid Wade to the 4 depending on if you get a 3 or a 4 back for Allen. Obviously Ingram is an exciting #3 to pair with Wade and Mobley. Only problem with that line up is Wade likely cannot avoid injury as a starter, let alone a back up. So you still need another quality 4.
garland doesn't fit, its simple to see, he is a skilled nice kid but doesnt fit, only way the team goes deep is with mitchell at point , wade healthy and other players in the natural position like struss at SG and not SF.. we can end games with a 4 shooter line up and even bring allen in and out of the line up, Garland just has to go for a longer SF if possible lol.. Trade Allan only for another big like Markkanen, if that could ever happen lol ..
@@lutheroneal3329 im proud of him ..the greatest threat to freedom is a absence of criticism .. and he stepped up like a man during heavy criticism which helped him work harder... that being said , we will see the true dynamic come playoffs where i hope the cavs can make it to the finals
Need to get out of that contract moving forward...DM will be 50+, EM will get the max....that's already 2 big contracts....can't pay/afford the max for a guy who doesn't even look like a real 3rd option! He's not batman or robin....injury prone moving forward!
this guy's defense is trash, but he tries to make up for it with his offense. Problem is, his offense ain't good enough either. I'd trade him for a scorer in a heartbeat to take some pressure off D Mitch.
@@mauriciohernandez324 He had 7 games with 25+ and 19 games with 20+ as a second option plus he only played 57 games and had to get used to playing after an injury. His main job isn’t to score it’s to run the offense
@@thatboionyx6375You can argue till your eyes are blue, no one believes you. And nba exec’s believe you (your narrative) even less. So keep at it like a monkey in the circus, you’re not changing anything.
It cannot work who is this guy with the c on his hat . Have you been watching ? Are p.g sucks ? He is never worth the money. Gud players will rise up . And Jarret allen sat and watched his team take them Ls. Sad sad sad. They make to much for that. Please please trade Allen
Why is everybody so in love with Mobley? Allen is much better, especially with assists. Play Allen as high post center and trade Mobley for a good wing and draft picks.
Jason doesnt know what he’s talking about lmaooo. Kyrie WAS GOING TO GET SURGERY IF THEY DIDNT TRADE HIM EVEN THE FANS KNOW MORE THAN YOU JASON. QUIT BEING A HOMER
We need a traditional point guard. Like Isaiah Thomas or Jason Kidd, even a Steve Nash. We don't need a point guard who can score 30 or 40. We need a floor general, and that is not DG.
Can we put the mobley vs Celtics to rest already he play 3 good games against a 4th string center. The Celtics have nearly reach the tax with 3 players, so a backups are there because they cheap not good. Agree 100%. Allen had career numbers this year averaged a Double double and a great contract. He also showed everyone he can run the DHO and short rolls. Just think if a team played a faster pace and let him rock the rim more in transition. Garlands value is junk right now, so thr cavs will get BS offers for him. 1 spurs projection was Johnson, Branham, and the 8th pick. Which would leave thr cavs without a starting point guard. CPJ isn't ready to start and Mitchel can run some offense but not all the time. Then you have to consider Tyus Jones in FA or drafting a guy. Neither seem like great options.
Mitchell has to play point. He's undersized and heavily ball centric. They need a three and D big defensive guard to play along side him. It's a shame Okoro cannot shoot, at all, and LeVert is out to lunch most of the time, Strus is really a backup. I'm not confident that skinny, poor shooting Mobley will be a championship center. He certainly isn't a four. If Wade can stay healthy and Bates can grow up, maybe the Cavs have wings. Cavs need to get something for Garland and Allen, but can't trust Altman, he needs to go. I'd trade both of those turkeys for the Wagner brothers, throw in Okoro if need be.
Stop Trading!!!...we dont need to do subtraction...ESPECIALLY with our starting 5...its levert that gets killed on Defense...Tristan Thompson thats USELESS...taking placebos or whatever drug it was...this is what the CAVS need to do if they wanna win the CHIP!!! ..Hire Mark Jackson as head coach ...fire Luke Walton and bring back MARKENNAN...somehow...and K Love as backup big...bring up Emoni Bates...get Bronny James as 3rd backup pg...have Lebron take a hometown discount and come back to Cleveland to retire...sign Facu Compazzo as 2nd backup pg...Get rid of Tristan Thompson...trade Caris Levert and maybe Darius Garland ...if you can get Mykal Bridges....cut Niang to make space for Emoni Bates....keep Struss...high IQ player...and lastly draft ...Dalton Kchnect ...or ...that one shooter...Reed Sheppard.....thats what i would do...if i was GM of the CLEVELAND CAVALIERS!!!!....seriously...and i wont even get STARTED on the CLEVELAND BROWNS....oh and i almost forgot...bring LUKE TRAVERS to our gleague team....hes a 6ft 8 pg....same height as shai gilgeous alexander
They have to if they want to become a championship team. I am not enamored with an undersized pg who isn’t a consistent scorer, turnstile defender, injury and turnover prone. The contract doesn’t fit the player and they don’t have a 3.
I agree, because look at how we kicked off the year of 2024 while Garland was injured: an outstanding record of 17-1 (after losing the first game of 2024) and we were the 2nd seed in the East. But once DG returned from his injury and was inserted back into the starting lineup by Bickerstaff, we never got back to that level of dominance, and that’s why we finished 3 games worse than last season, not to mention finishing 2 wins short of yet another season with at least 50 or more wins.
They dont want to be. Dan is a coward and a phony
Preeeeeach
Put Wade at the 3. Great defender and shoots 40% from the arc.
@@tomcannon2618Sure, if he can stay healthy which is a LONG SHOT 💯
Unequivocally! Get his uncompetitive ass outta here
Say what now???
Nooooo keep DG
Just run it ALL BACK AGAIN, SPIN THE BLOCK AGAIN, or whatever you want to call it including OKORO and see where that gets you 👍🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Everyone forgets that DG was the only Cav who had a good game in playoff series loss to Knicks. He was playing hurt and needs the offseason to fully recover. Also, yoiu guys are assuming Mitchell stays. He still has not signed a long term extension; you're putting so much faith in rumors.
Why do people think Mitchell is a point guard. Trading away a a good young point guard and replacing him with a two guard doesn’t make sense
Mobley's three point shooting did improve last season. So the fit is getting better. Also having Allen and Mobley both insures a good team even when one is injured.
The starting 5 only played 20 games together this season. Don't trade darius just to trade him. His value is down from the trade rumors I've seen. I think they should give it 1 more year. Darius looked like a totally different player when he broke his jaw and lost 15 lbs (which is the muscle weight he put on over the offseason).
Trade DG for whom? The Cavs are not one piece away. And Spida is on a much more advance timeline, skillswise than DG, Mobley, etc. The prudent move is to move Spida for more pieces and picks that will coincide with the same timeline as DG and Mobley. Build the roster organically for the long term like the OKC and Orlando did.
Maybe they may see what the new coach wants to do.
they are good when healthy and the proper line ups are being played, and with players in their natural positions and proper spacing. we had the run in the middle of the season that proved this .. and its probably best not to have garland close the games although many would argue, its best to stager garland and mitchel so defensively we dont get torched , .. i just dont like it and never have with a small squad, come playoff time we have bad matchups
yes
Agree with garlands growth being stunted with Mitchell. The jaw injury and loosing all that weight didn't help matters either. Either could lead the cavs to to playoffs next year if one was moved also.
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Bring garland off the bench. He'll be six man of the year and give mitchell plenty of rest.
A starting five of wade, Allen, Mobley, Mitchell, and at the 2 spot Merrill/strus/ocoro/Bates. This lineup holds teams under one hundred point while the cavaliers score plenty. This front court only needs to score forty five points.
Don't forget, the cavaliers were the most feared team in the league when they won seventeen out of eighteen with the same players they have right now. They just need a rearrangement of the deck chairs.
Atp don’t comment on sports anymore
If you can get a good wing, trade him. It's all about getting value for value.
To keep Donovan. It might be a MUST DO!
Depends on what they get for him
Yes
Get rid of him
Get rid of you!
I think you have a higher ceiling by trading Allen and moving Mobley to the 5. You can skid Wade to the 4 depending on if you get a 3 or a 4 back for Allen. Obviously Ingram is an exciting #3 to pair with Wade and Mobley. Only problem with that line up is Wade likely cannot avoid injury as a starter, let alone a back up. So you still need another quality 4.
garland doesn't fit, its simple to see, he is a skilled nice kid but doesnt fit, only way the team goes deep is with mitchell at point , wade healthy and other players in the natural position like struss at SG and not SF.. we can end games with a 4 shooter line up and even bring allen in and out of the line up, Garland just has to go for a longer SF if possible lol.. Trade Allan only for another big like Markkanen, if that could ever happen lol ..
Doesn’t what now???
@@lutheroneal3329 im proud of him ..the greatest threat to freedom is a absence of criticism .. and he stepped up like a man during heavy criticism which helped him work harder... that being said , we will see the true dynamic come playoffs where i hope the cavs can make it to the finals
Need to get out of that contract moving forward...DM will be 50+, EM will get the max....that's already 2 big contracts....can't pay/afford the max for a guy who doesn't even look like a real 3rd option! He's not batman or robin....injury prone moving forward!
Apologize
It's picky, but this trio is dressed like they are just about to leave the studio and cut a few lawns. C'mon, guys. Are you aware we can see you??
this guy's defense is trash, but he tries to make up for it with his offense. Problem is, his offense ain't good enough either. I'd trade him for a scorer in a heartbeat to take some pressure off D Mitch.
One bad scoring year and now’s he’s a bad scorer 🤣
@@thatboionyx6375How many games over 25 points??? His strength is the turnover
@@mauriciohernandez324 He had 7 games with 25+ and 19 games with 20+ as a second option plus he only played 57 games and had to get used to playing after an injury. His main job isn’t to score it’s to run the offense
@@thatboionyx6375 Number the TJ McConnell man!! He not running any offense he running turnovers
@@thatboionyx6375You can argue till your eyes are blue, no one believes you. And nba exec’s believe you (your narrative) even less. So keep at it like a monkey in the circus, you’re not changing anything.
It cannot work who is this guy with the c on his hat . Have you been watching ? Are p.g sucks ? He is never worth the money. Gud players will rise up . And Jarret allen sat and watched his team take them Ls. Sad sad sad. They make to much for that. Please please trade Allen
Atp delete this
Why is everybody so in love with Mobley? Allen is much better, especially with assists. Play Allen as high post center and trade Mobley for a good wing and draft picks.
Your bugging bro
Jason doesnt know what he’s talking about lmaooo. Kyrie WAS GOING TO GET SURGERY IF THEY DIDNT TRADE HIM EVEN THE FANS KNOW MORE THAN YOU JASON. QUIT BEING A HOMER
I would e traded DG for a hot dog and soda
And that’s why you work a 9 to 5 🤷🏿
@ shut ur weird ass up going from videos 5 months ago when we lost and DG was playing like ass weird clown
@ clown ass you got no job doing some shit like that to much time on ur hands
We need a traditional point guard. Like Isaiah Thomas or Jason Kidd, even a Steve Nash. We don't need a point guard who can score 30 or 40. We need a floor general, and that is not DG.
Nah Darius gotta go he is mid trade Dg and Allen
You mid 🤷🏿
Can we put the mobley vs Celtics to rest already he play 3 good games against a 4th string center. The Celtics have nearly reach the tax with 3 players, so a backups are there because they cheap not good.
Agree 100%. Allen had career numbers this year averaged a Double double and a great contract. He also showed everyone he can run the DHO and short rolls. Just think if a team played a faster pace and let him rock the rim more in transition.
Garlands value is junk right now, so thr cavs will get BS offers for him. 1 spurs projection was Johnson, Branham, and the 8th pick. Which would leave thr cavs without a starting point guard. CPJ isn't ready to start and Mitchel can run some offense but not all the time. Then you have to consider Tyus Jones in FA or drafting a guy. Neither seem like great options.
Mitchell has to play point. He's undersized and heavily ball centric. They need a three and D big defensive guard to play along side him. It's a shame Okoro cannot shoot, at all, and LeVert is out to lunch most of the time, Strus is really a backup. I'm not confident that skinny, poor shooting Mobley will be a championship center. He certainly isn't a four. If Wade can stay healthy and Bates can grow up, maybe the Cavs have wings. Cavs need to get something for Garland and Allen, but can't trust Altman, he needs to go. I'd trade both of those turkeys for the Wagner brothers, throw in Okoro if need be.
Stop Trading!!!...we dont need to do subtraction...ESPECIALLY with our starting 5...its levert that gets killed on Defense...Tristan Thompson thats USELESS...taking placebos or whatever drug it was...this is what the CAVS need to do if they wanna win the CHIP!!! ..Hire Mark Jackson as head coach ...fire Luke Walton and bring back MARKENNAN...somehow...and K Love as backup big...bring up Emoni Bates...get Bronny James as 3rd backup pg...have Lebron take a hometown discount and come back to Cleveland to retire...sign Facu Compazzo as 2nd backup pg...Get rid of Tristan Thompson...trade Caris Levert and maybe Darius Garland ...if you can get Mykal Bridges....cut Niang to make space for Emoni Bates....keep Struss...high IQ player...and lastly draft ...Dalton Kchnect ...or ...that one shooter...Reed Sheppard.....thats what i would do...if i was GM of the CLEVELAND CAVALIERS!!!!....seriously...and i wont even get STARTED on the CLEVELAND BROWNS....oh and i almost forgot...bring LUKE TRAVERS to our gleague team....hes a 6ft 8 pg....same height as shai gilgeous alexander