One of the decks you beat (the one that just cast two spells and got destroyed) wasn't red, it was the Izzet "second card drawn matters" deck. By the way, I'm loving this format of doing a full event with a deck, it gives the video a better "storyline".
Just something I noticed about your sequencing from the myriad of games I've played with Knights: From a damage perspective I think its better to play the Venerable Knight turn 1 instead of the Fervent Champion. You get -1 turn 1 (no Fervent Hit), but then get +3 turn 2 (Fervent +1 on Venerable and Venerable hitting). I think I saw you play the Fervent on T1 twice with this exact hand setup. It was even worse when you were matched against Golos because you got in for zero damage T2 since they played Arboreal Grazer T1.
It's not as strong, but you could swap the icon of ancestry and maybe 1 murderous rider for 2 Heraldric banners. that could net you the black you need, while still keeping at least some of your knights pumped by +1/0
Im playing this deck a lot (got from bronze to diamond in a week), but i can tell you is not optimal to go for tokens. I play with 4 stormfist crusaders, amazing in early because you can get more low cost drops, and that extra damage incrases the chances of ebon legion proc. Also, embercleave is an amazing way to end games. Worthy knight starts to give value in turn 4-5, and you should aim to end the game by that turn. Also, i like acclaimed contender (playing 2 copies, still testing) an order of midnight. Circle of loyalty is MAYBE not optimal, but it can make the difference sometimes. I also have only 12 1-drops (fervent, honorable an ebon legion). BTW, if you play with worthy knghts, you should play corpse knight too, amazing sinergy. Last advice, dont fear wipeborads, just commit to the blind hyper aggro.
i have a Mardu knights list that has gone 7 wins 4 times out of 5 in the best of 1 standard event. Is there a place to submit to you? Seeing your 2 losses to golos this list 100% would have won those games. i kept track a literally every time (think) you wanted to rider but could not a skewer would have done the trick. also given the choices I usually play the 2/1 and save the red 1/1 for maximum damage later, unless it is vs mono red.
Been playing a budget Mardu knights deck in the play queue while waiting for the meta to develop a bit and for Eldraine ranked draft to land. Results have been... okay I guess. There's some people playing decks that they could easily play in diamond or mythic there of course and against those I usually lose. It's doing alright against the jank.
I asked for a knight deck a few days ago , hmmm cool. I'm playing daily the last 10 days now with knights. I use no Loxodon. But Blacklance Paragon is great in a knight deck and Oathsworn and Skyknight.(some flyers).And for removal 2 Giant Killer. Ty for your view on knights :)
Knights will never be dinosaurs. This deck needs a Gishath. The hands you get are not random. Remember those "opening hand smoothing algorithms" they keep talking about; they're picking what the game considers the best opening hands based on lands in drawn in one of N opening hands (and while it's not supposed to do this in constructed events, it's fairly clear that it does). Did you notice that while in most games you never saw a Swamp (you did see plenty of Godless Shrines though), in almost every game you had at least one Tournament Grounds? I've been saying for a while that whatever the smoothing algorithms are that they use in Arena, weird lands are preferred over basics and even dual lands. This means that you will run into issues casting Murderous Rider because of the cumulative impact of less usable black sources and the strong preference for hands / tops of decks with Tournament Grounds among your lands.
They cgb, i seen in another video you were addressing the haters. Dont acknowledge them ever, thats what they want attention. Just remember they are spending their time watching YOU, and you are making content and theyre bench warmers.
Oh definitely, my Boris Knights propelled me to mythic in historic. The reason I played in historic is because of history of benalia(amazing value) and dauntless bodyguard (underrated)
Being mana screwed EVERY SINGLE TIME when I try to play mardu knights. I play one more land than you but still get mulligan with 1 land. I'm also trying to fit Judith to punish the wrath.
Now I'm starting to wish for a setting where you can disable autotap ONLY for decks that include lands such as Interplanar Beacon and Tournament Grounds. I have lost games due to autotap and it just feels so bad...
@@MP_Indy might get close but food tokens will turn the tide even on the play. Then again now that I understand this meta better only field of the dead reliably beats oko right now.
Sorry but I have to disagree with you on this one I love playing nights myself however I don't think this is the way to go as of right now too many people playing gruel and a lot of creature destruction I gave this Deca Fairchance 23 games with two wins I really looked it over I can't really see a way to really speed it up or get around the gruul decks creature on creature it's great however as far as arena is concerned I really don't think it's a very good deck but it was another great video I love watching it keep up the good work
Maybe it's just me, but I don't like the aggro versions of these decks. I like the Orzhov Corpse Knight oriented version Mogwai plays, cause it feels like easy damage, plus a ton of order of midnight and cavalier of night value. Loxodon makes it feel like you're taking a turn off of being aggro, to grow creatures that die to a wrath anyway.
idk why field of the dead is still a thing. I have been beating them just about every match. But if it was not for them id still be in gold. Same for red decks, do they know I can pop food for 3 life, do they know about all the life gain in the stand right now!?
@@trbry. green/black, splash blue for oko , questing Beast cauldron familiar witches oven, ass trophy. gives you an idea, food and cat just crush red, quest beast and ass trophy crush net deck zombies. and oko is a lot of things, craps out 3/3's, life gain, removal, food tokens for sacs.
why can't inspiring veteran just be black and white god damn. having to play red in this deck is pure unadulterated weaksauce... would be fun to try abzan knights. so dumb that they gave red the lord when red is basically the color least likely to run a tribal deck
Meta is just so boring right now, all about golos field. Played 20 games, 15 were vs field of the dead. Wizards should find a way to discourage the use of that card, otherwise it will just be playing the same exact games again and again forever.
Have people been calling Venerated Loxodon Elephant Jesus this whole time without me knowing? xD
One of the decks you beat (the one that just cast two spells and got destroyed) wasn't red, it was the Izzet "second card drawn matters" deck. By the way, I'm loving this format of doing a full event with a deck, it gives the video a better "storyline".
Just something I noticed about your sequencing from the myriad of games I've played with Knights: From a damage perspective I think its better to play the Venerable Knight turn 1 instead of the Fervent Champion. You get -1 turn 1 (no Fervent Hit), but then get +3 turn 2 (Fervent +1 on Venerable and Venerable hitting). I think I saw you play the Fervent on T1 twice with this exact hand setup. It was even worse when you were matched against Golos because you got in for zero damage T2 since they played Arboreal Grazer T1.
waiting for that happily ever after jank
For the longest time I thought Cool Stuff Inc was a fake satire sponsor. So glad I finally Googled it 😂😂😂
"Hi welcome back to the arena...its YA BOI, CGB" do it. lol
Feels great to see some more full events once again. Best wishes CGB!
It's not as strong, but you could swap the icon of ancestry and maybe 1 murderous rider for 2 Heraldric banners. that could net you the black you need, while still keeping at least some of your knights pumped by +1/0
WOW finally beat a Golos deck at 42min in! Good job!
This deck feels like WW and Esper Hero had a less awkward baby.
The meta is super disappointing... Nice job winning despite this!
Im playing this deck a lot (got from bronze to diamond in a week), but i can tell you is not optimal to go for tokens. I play with 4 stormfist crusaders, amazing in early because you can get more low cost drops, and that extra damage incrases the chances of ebon legion proc. Also, embercleave is an amazing way to end games. Worthy knight starts to give value in turn 4-5, and you should aim to end the game by that turn. Also, i like acclaimed contender (playing 2 copies, still testing) an order of midnight. Circle of loyalty is MAYBE not optimal, but it can make the difference sometimes. I also have only 12 1-drops (fervent, honorable an ebon legion). BTW, if you play with worthy knghts, you should play corpse knight too, amazing sinergy. Last advice, dont fear wipeborads, just commit to the blind hyper aggro.
I've finished games by turn 3 with 3 1-drop knights and embercleave. It's an amazing card for fast aggrp decks
Decklist?
Glad to see the tappy for the slappy being played! (Loxodon)
i have a Mardu knights list that has gone 7 wins 4 times out of 5 in the best of 1 standard event. Is there a place to submit to you? Seeing your 2 losses to golos this list 100% would have won those games. i kept track a literally every time (think) you wanted to rider but could not a skewer would have done the trick. also given the choices I usually play the 2/1 and save the red 1/1 for maximum damage later, unless it is vs mono red.
Been playing a budget Mardu knights deck in the play queue while waiting for the meta to develop a bit and for Eldraine ranked draft to land. Results have been... okay I guess. There's some people playing decks that they could easily play in diamond or mythic there of course and against those I usually lose. It's doing alright against the jank.
I asked for a knight deck a few days ago , hmmm cool. I'm playing daily the last 10 days now with knights. I use no Loxodon. But Blacklance Paragon is great in a knight deck and Oathsworn and Skyknight.(some flyers).And for removal 2 Giant Killer. Ty for your view on knights :)
How do you handle board sweepers?
I just see the cards in the deck and I click like, this is gonna rock and make Golos cry. I wish I had enough wildcards to build it...
Glad you showed a complicated board with a misplay. Makes the video seem more relevant to learning how to play the deck.
" Let's send the message... SMASH " - CGB
Knights will never be dinosaurs. This deck needs a Gishath.
The hands you get are not random. Remember those "opening hand smoothing algorithms" they keep talking about; they're picking what the game considers the best opening hands based on lands in drawn in one of N opening hands (and while it's not supposed to do this in constructed events, it's fairly clear that it does). Did you notice that while in most games you never saw a Swamp (you did see plenty of Godless Shrines though), in almost every game you had at least one Tournament Grounds? I've been saying for a while that whatever the smoothing algorithms are that they use in Arena, weird lands are preferred over basics and even dual lands. This means that you will run into issues casting Murderous Rider because of the cumulative impact of less usable black sources and the strong preference for hands / tops of decks with Tournament Grounds among your lands.
They cgb, i seen in another video you were addressing the haters. Dont acknowledge them ever, thats what they want attention. Just remember they are spending their time watching YOU, and you are making content and theyre bench warmers.
I feel like Boros knights with a focus on Embercleave miiiight be the best knight variant
Oh definitely, my Boris Knights propelled me to mythic in historic. The reason I played in historic is because of history of benalia(amazing value) and dauntless bodyguard (underrated)
I'd porbably want to have 1 castle loctwhain in there just to get some more card draw for the lategame (i.e. turn 4-6)
For the record, Bury is definitely a better old school term than Banding. ;)
Now you say “let the none sense begin” in jank week
Great vid as always CGB!
Nice, I started R/B/W but found that R/W works alot better just my opinion
Being mana screwed EVERY SINGLE TIME when I try to play mardu knights. I play one more land than you but still get mulligan with 1 land. I'm also trying to fit Judith to punish the wrath.
The church of mardu has abandoned midnight rider for Paragon Knight. Come join us in functional 3 color jank.
When casting the loxodon why are you not attacking first?
Because it taps the creatures so he can't convoke
I feel like every creature deck running black needs to play midnight reaper.
Can someone give me a time stamp as to when CGB figures out Tournament Grounds taps for black (if that even happens)?
Not to cast swift end, only to cast knight spells and equip spells. Try it
Only taps for black if you're casting a knight or equipment
No embercleave makes me sad, you should build a rakdos version focused on killing with cleave 😁
Sad that Gwyn and Wintermoor couldn't make it in the deck, but I understand why they aren't in.
Excalibur225 not playing knights, I'm shocked 😄
No circle of loyalty or more importantly, embercleave?
Why weren't you using the adventure on Murderous rider
Tournament grounds cant be used to cast instants. Only knight and equip
@@vectorvictor6181 oh okay I forgot the adventure didn't count
I went against this eith the eolf flash and struggled trying to get out of platinum 4 going against this deck as i watch it
Dominaria may be gone, but red remains
Now I'm starting to wish for a setting where you can disable autotap ONLY for decks that include lands such as Interplanar Beacon and Tournament Grounds. I have lost games due to autotap and it just feels so bad...
Obviously, "ya boi" was ironic
Pretty sure I have a 0% winrate against golos
Its tough, really tough. That deck pushes any inefficiency in draw or deck building so easily
the Answer: Knight's Charge, Corpse Knight, Kaya's Wraths, Skynight's vanguard, Revival, and BW Sorin.
I have had good runs with corpse night the damage stacks nicely.
Ima getcha ya rascal!
Only one Icon? Do you even buff your creatures, bro?
Yes, tnx ! HOLY QUESTS!!
Unless you get lucky and draw multiple riders this deck never beats an Oko deck
Maybe on the draw, but on the play that's a different story. He had 6 damage swinging turn 3 more than once.
@@MP_Indy might get close but food tokens will turn the tide even on the play. Then again now that I understand this meta better only field of the dead reliably beats oko right now.
Let the nonsense COMMENCE
autotap disruption is the worst in Mardu Knights
IMO Boros Knights is the way to go
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why you don't play 1CC spells in a deck with 12 sources of C. xP (Need 18.)
Sey Productions: My thoughts exactly. I have 16 sources in Rakdos and that’s sketchy already for 1cc
no draw tough
I feel bad for your opponents
Sorry but I have to disagree with you on this one I love playing nights myself however I don't think this is the way to go as of right now too many people playing gruel and a lot of creature destruction I gave this Deca Fairchance 23 games with two wins I really looked it over I can't really see a way to really speed it up or get around the gruul decks creature on creature it's great however as far as arena is concerned I really don't think it's a very good deck but it was another great video I love watching it keep up the good work
Thank you!
Maybe it's just me, but I don't like the aggro versions of these decks. I like the Orzhov Corpse Knight oriented version Mogwai plays, cause it feels like easy damage, plus a ton of order of midnight and cavalier of night value. Loxodon makes it feel like you're taking a turn off of being aggro, to grow creatures that die to a wrath anyway.
I am addicted to value though, and I don't think that deck beats ass in four turns like this one does lol.
idk why field of the dead is still a thing. I have been beating them just about every match. But if it was not for them id still be in gold. Same for red decks, do they know I can pop food for 3 life, do they know about all the life gain in the stand right now!?
@@trbry. green/black, splash blue for oko , questing Beast cauldron familiar witches oven, ass trophy. gives you an idea, food and cat just crush red, quest beast and ass trophy crush net deck zombies. and oko is a lot of things, craps out 3/3's, life gain, removal, food tokens for sacs.
decklist dont work properly from this sait
jesus christ you're playing bant golos, you have like 20 zombies on board by the time you have 7 mana, do you REALLY need an end-raze forerunners? lol
why can't inspiring veteran just be black and white god damn. having to play red in this deck is pure unadulterated weaksauce... would be fun to try abzan knights. so dumb that they gave red the lord when red is basically the color least likely to run a tribal deck
Meta is just so boring right now, all about golos field. Played 20 games, 15 were vs field of the dead. Wizards should find a way to discourage the use of that card, otherwise it will just be playing the same exact games again and again forever.
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