Ian Martin Allison Interview | The Janek Gwizdala Podcast

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  • @janekgwizdala
    @janekgwizdala  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Important Correction: During the episode we get to talking about how some instruments define players and genres. I totally blew it when it came to one of my heroes Joel Smith. I said he played a Ken Smith bass (which he could have done at some point... 🤷‍♀), but I was way off in terms of what his main instruments were. I've seen him play MTD and Fbass, and if you have more information or would like to comment on this thread I would welcome any insights you have into the legend of gospel bass that was Joel Smith. 🙏

    • @musicmaestro88
      @musicmaestro88 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Didn't know you were into gospel bass at all. Get your ears on Michael Atkins ( "Big Mike" ) from The Pilgrim Jubilees. Start with the "In Revival" album. Mike was a jazz bassist "stuck" in gospel quartet genre. He's a treat if your ear works. Cheers.

    • @bestprato
      @bestprato 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please active automatic subtitles 🙏

  • @IanMartinAllison
    @IanMartinAllison 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +133

    Janek you are such an inspiration. Thanks so much for spending this time with me.

    • @janekgwizdala
      @janekgwizdala  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      you're the man. Really appreciate your time, and helping me share it with the good folks of the bass world!

    • @Mrpsblobsoflowendmung
      @Mrpsblobsoflowendmung 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This was so good to see you two together !
      Fun and full of inspiration.
      Great to hear the opposite ends of the game with so much in common .

    • @mrclyde678
      @mrclyde678 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ian & Janek ! Dope interview guys ! bass love from Morocco

    • @JFreitas116
      @JFreitas116 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      One of the better interviews I've seen in a long time. You both have such wonderful and unique approaches to the instrument and it was a blast to hear you share (and play together!!) for a while. Thank you both so much!

    • @musicslick
      @musicslick 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Totally agree as you are too IMA

  • @copasetic1
    @copasetic1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    The fact that Ian interviewed Janek as much as Janek interviewed Ian is such a beautiful testament to the value of coming together with another artist and being wide open to each other’s perspectives and experiences. It’s more a conversation, or even a therapy session, than it is an interview.

  • @wolfwarren6376
    @wolfwarren6376 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    This felt like the bassist version of Actors on Actors; your similarities and differences compliment each other so brilliantly. Not that you’re going to be a new “series regular” on SBL, but man, if this is what it could be? You’re making us hungry for more of you, Scott, and Ian together. 🙌

  • @raichoo
    @raichoo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    OMG, this is a thing now? Pinch me. I feel like the world is getting better and better. More bass players are coming together to share their ideas. LUV IT! Sorry for being overly excited to watch this 💗

  • @KyleS.1987
    @KyleS.1987 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Ian's such a fun dude. Hell of a player and teacher, too.

  • @IvanovBR
    @IvanovBR 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a great chat!!!!! I had the honor to interview both of them for my channel!!!!

  • @BassStevie
    @BassStevie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Two lovely guys, with huge experience talking about meaningful experiences with no egos. Delightful. That was the best discussion I’ve heard since I saw Geddy and Alex chatting.

  • @chrisbardolph
    @chrisbardolph 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My first instinct was to comment something like "It'd be really cool to see you guys playing a Bass VI and see what sounds come out of it." My second thought was, hmmm, maybe I should pick up my own Bass VI and see what can be done. Anyway, really cool podcast.

  • @reueldaniel4995
    @reueldaniel4995 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I am smiling so hard, my first reaction when this video popped up on my phone

  • @craigsi16
    @craigsi16 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:35:07 There's actually already visual feedback on multiple of the hx comps. You just have to be viewing that block to see it. (although I've been using the plugin for a while and haven't plugged in my hx stomp in a few months, so I don't remember if it's just a plugin thing or if it's on the stomp too. But the fact it's on the plugin version means it should be relatively simple to put it in the pedal as well if it's not already there)

  • @waynefrance4545
    @waynefrance4545 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey Janek -
    Gotta say I got a little lump when you talked about your Mom buying you both pedals and not just one or the other. Great take and thank you for sharing!

  • @GeorgeL1994
    @GeorgeL1994 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Absolute top content - two absolute bass nerds/connoisseurs just flying. Love it.

  • @christophercheney1006
    @christophercheney1006 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That was absolutely fantastic! So thankful that cats like you, Ian, Scotty The Glove, Dr. Rich Brown and Damien Erskine constantly rep for the bass community and delve out such great wisdom and insight. How could I not want to play bass 24/7? You mofos constantly light a fire under my ass. Thank you!

  • @callmejs
    @callmejs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great episode, such an interesting exchange... thanks Janek and Ian!
    And Janek, take good care sounded quite rough at the end...

  • @dtkincaid
    @dtkincaid 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What a great way to spend an hour and a half!

  • @Dax_Smith
    @Dax_Smith 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That was awesome. You guys have to do another one. Make a patch together and then jam together. Like an effects cooking show.

  • @tmcwilliam01
    @tmcwilliam01 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was fun! Two sound nerds that can play their asses off!

  • @akashdhurbarry9157
    @akashdhurbarry9157 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really nice to see you two chatting and geeking out on tricks and experience with HX Stomp. Love those requests for the wishlist. Hopefully someone from Line 6 is watching / listening 😇

  • @haddockvision2631
    @haddockvision2631 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Two of my favourite guys to listen to and watch. Very informative as ever. Please do it again soon.

  • @emmettchristie2399
    @emmettchristie2399 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of my favourite things on TH-cam. Two inspirational guys sharing so much knowledge, inspiration and excitement. I love how much they love music and the bass.

  • @RossHoekman
    @RossHoekman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    58:30 - Pro Tip: I've had really good success faking a LPF sweep with an expression pedal and the 10-Band EQ block. You can assign the exp to control multiple frequencies with different min/max settings per frequency (effectively rolling them off at different rates), so you can really tailor the sweep to your liking.

  • @joninawhitecoat
    @joninawhitecoat 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Oh my that was wonderdul.
    Please do another one. You and IMA, talking about absolutely anything and it'll be wonderful.

  • @MartinMillerGuitar
    @MartinMillerGuitar 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is gold, thanks guys!

  • @bartasm
    @bartasm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Guys, You need to do it more often! Wonderful content

  • @joannalewis5279
    @joannalewis5279 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great to see such inspirational players with different styles overlap with their love of tone

  • @BassDawStew
    @BassDawStew 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What a great conversation - simulatneously relatable and inspirational. I thoroughly enjoyed the beauty of IMA's deceptively pulsing D groove with JG playing out on top, like a great conversation with two different accents but entirely speaking the same language.
    As a bar band bassist (also 1978!) that runs backing tracks and often mixes live, I was a bit shocked to think of you two gentlemen going through the same issues with equipment, playback, levels, etc., that us mere mortals experience, albeit you're doing it with much more pressure!
    Thanks to both of you for the many hours of inspiration and entertainment over the years. Really great stuff.

  • @djowelv
    @djowelv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow! Pure bass influencer synergy! Love it, Janek and Ian. Such an inspirational pod ep. Thank you, Janek.

  • @musicmaestro88
    @musicmaestro88 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Agreed Ian... aesthetics definitely matter Ian. I'm a photographer as well as a bassist and I ABSOLUTELY have cameras that I like to look at ( Rollei35S ) that I rarely shoot. Haha. I just like owning it. In fact, I use other cameras to take pictures of that camera just to make art to sell. ( I've sold lots of pics of that camera... lol ). I'm not there (collecting) with basses but I'm totally there with cars and cameras. I have one caveat... all of my stuff gets used (or could )... no "trophys" here. Cheers!!
    PS: Janek seems to be having so much fun these days, it looks good on him. 🎸💪🏾

  • @imacoastaleddie
    @imacoastaleddie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ok when are you guys going on tour? I love the sounds you are making ❤

    • @IanMartinAllison
      @IanMartinAllison 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Offer on the table. I want to be Janek’s bass player.

    • @imacoastaleddie
      @imacoastaleddie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was quite taken with your country
      Inspired bass vibe
      It had a feeling reminiscent of
      Bill Frisell
      🤠👍

  • @adityanemlekar
    @adityanemlekar 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    OMG I was just rewatching the ScottIanJanek podcast on SBL! This is my lucky day!

  • @bassnmusic4572
    @bassnmusic4572 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If you two would do a record just like this - everybody is doing his thing, i would buy it. so lovely!!!

  • @ChadHensley
    @ChadHensley 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the interview I have always wanted! Cannot wait for you guys to get back together!

  • @ivanzolotco8667
    @ivanzolotco8667 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    this truly is a big day for bass. So great to see you both under one roof! Awesome episode :)

  • @PushSueAside
    @PushSueAside 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This has been my all time favorite “podcast”. Loved it. Thank you both. You are very good together. Cheers

  • @RobQuinn
    @RobQuinn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was a fantastic, thank you! Would love to see a lot more of you two talking bass and music and touring/recording. A special of you guys touring round the next NAMM to try out the basses and gear would be beautiful.

  • @bahadirvaroglu
    @bahadirvaroglu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you Janek, thank you Ian. I could watch/listen you guys for 4-5 more hours guys. 😂 This was enlighting for lots of the real deals for bass and music itself. In the era of internet/TH-cam, lots of people working on extreme techniques but the real answer is always THE SOUND. Please do this again in near future. 🤘🏻 BTW, you both are the reason I got a HX Stomp last month. 😂

  • @edunogues23
    @edunogues23 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I could watch a 10h ep of you 2!

  • @stevecullen
    @stevecullen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great job Janek and Ian, loved this. I have a HX Stomp and have had it for a year- feel like I'm kind of just scratching the surface, there's rabbit holes within rabbit holes...

  • @ginoribotta6519
    @ginoribotta6519 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What a conversation, i relate so much with the topics you discused, what a power ian has to communicate, to touch the real itches that we bassist have. Like the one minute D vamp got really emotional for me. So much information i took from this, sorry the Bad english love u both.❤

    • @IanMartinAllison
      @IanMartinAllison 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That moment where I'm about to tell a session story and Janek goes, "Play." And I just play D and he composes the most lovely melody on the spot. Got me in the feels as well.

  • @trebm
    @trebm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yes, the perfect podcast!!!

  • @amsknirb
    @amsknirb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm a little late to the party, but I just wanted to say that this interview is amazing!! I love Ian's playing and sound mastery and seeing him just chilling is amazing. I also watched the shorter version of the Stomp section and I realised that the editing is amazing!! I didn't see any of the cuts you or your editor made in the shorter video. Very cool.

  • @mahdisharegh7220
    @mahdisharegh7220 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Awesome interview 😍😍

  • @jedraymond3397
    @jedraymond3397 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is prob one of my favorite episodes ever…. !!!!

  • @alrainbow72
    @alrainbow72 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome, thank you for this.

  • @rgw2012
    @rgw2012 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a great conversation between two really cool dudes - thanks guys, really enjoyed, and learnt from, that 👍

  • @GreetTheSacredCow
    @GreetTheSacredCow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love these two. Such a great episode!

  • @MC-qe5qb
    @MC-qe5qb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great interview. I enjoyed listening to the both of you immensely

  • @nephilymbass1
    @nephilymbass1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is awesome. Dig the conversation and the playing moments particularly when you guys played together.

  • @IgorOdaryuk
    @IgorOdaryuk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a great conversation, thanks for sharing!

  • @Snibborwocky
    @Snibborwocky 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great sit down interview/gear geek out/music life stories between the both of you. I could literally watch/listen to you guys for hours and hours about everything. I recently bought an HX Stomp so I'm just getting into all of it. Thank you both for the inspiration to dive into the sounds and endlessly create everyday.

  • @Bassgroover
    @Bassgroover 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love these guys. Both coming at something I love music /bass from different angles. But both great communicators (and musicians obviously).

  • @ctodd122
    @ctodd122 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super video! More please.

  • @GrooveRiderExpress
    @GrooveRiderExpress 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah !!! I was really looking forward to this.

  • @eduluke2010
    @eduluke2010 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing talk!!!

  • @hswalkerstudio
    @hswalkerstudio 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ian spoke of steamrolling through his art to stave off his dystopian outlook on life. I 100% relate to that. Great video podcast. I hope to see more. ❤

  • @mdspman000
    @mdspman000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hey I listened to this as an audio podcast because I wanted to hear when it came out and I was driving! But now I watched some parts again on video. Great talk. Now that you told Ian about the possible D/A or A/D noise from the effects loop he might start hearing it and it will drive him crazy. I think the discussion on the simplicity of a bass note and a melody or even triads is pointing to the mystery of what it takes to makes a great melody. We know a great melody when we hear it and can analyze part of why it makes sense but it doesn't necessarily help us figure out how to make another melody.

  • @mikewolfe9458
    @mikewolfe9458 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome conversation, guys! I definitely hope we see more of you two together. Take care and thanks for sharing your talents with us.

  • @Belman5
    @Belman5 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You guys are fantastic. I'm mid 50's and absolutely love playing bass. Always something new and exciting to learn, at whatever pace you want to go. I'm a bit of a turtle, but I'll eventually get there.

  • @javierrojas07
    @javierrojas07 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Marvelous!! 👊🏽

  • @tim0391
    @tim0391 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man sharing a bottle of Bush with you guys talking about music would be 🔥 - love the chilled vibe of this whole conversation. The parent chat sidetrack was beautiful. Great to see other loving dads communicate that feeling to each other

  • @MrPeterLazarus
    @MrPeterLazarus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks!

  • @rl-ub9hx
    @rl-ub9hx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You two are independently my favorite Bass Personalities? TH-camrs? Whatever the phrase is these days. It's incredible that we get to be the fly on the wall while the greats talks shop and share knowledge.

  • @La_sagne
    @La_sagne 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    kind of impressed with ians beatbox skills

  • @TonyWeekes
    @TonyWeekes 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You guys are a vibe

  • @jammanmcguin
    @jammanmcguin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank y'all 🎉

  • @deangordon2215
    @deangordon2215 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your jam made me smile from ear to ear. Great stuff 😊

  • @musictimewithjoel3020
    @musictimewithjoel3020 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved this so much! Been using the stomp for a few years and it’s been the best gear purchase. It’s become my main recording interface since it records clean and effects at the same time. Can’t wait for the next interview!!

  • @maxiburke
    @maxiburke 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really great discussion, so many nuggets of information that can be taken and used. Two cool dudes. Enjoyed it.

  • @indobasschnl
    @indobasschnl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this so much!! Thanks Janek & Ian

  • @bassimprovjams3772
    @bassimprovjams3772 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh this is gunna be fun!! Thanks Janek! Thanks Ian!! So cool you Two got to actually get together! “Mr Glove” 😂

  • @ShaksBassChannel
    @ShaksBassChannel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Fantastic conversation - great flow to this and those little improvised jams were hugely inspiring! I would love to see more of these in person interviews - you both work great together - thank you for sharing this ❤

  • @DavidFeilyMusic
    @DavidFeilyMusic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Two of my fav bass players together! ❤❤

  • @jayros67
    @jayros67 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So inspiring.. the Bass centre in wapping, pedals.. one note.. sounds

  • @thepartimemusician65
    @thepartimemusician65 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great conversation guys, sitting here in a plumber’s van eating lunch , enjoying the banter

  • @SirGranular
    @SirGranular 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    40:04 it's hammer time!

  • @deermeadowhomes
    @deermeadowhomes 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ian. Your sound reminds me of Twin Peaks soundtrack.

  • @damiankostkamusic
    @damiankostkamusic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome chat❤!

  • @lucaspvlc
    @lucaspvlc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excelente!!!

  • @andygreen5565
    @andygreen5565 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I feel like Ian is cheating on Scott. 😂
    Love you dudes.

    • @djrea4815
      @djrea4815 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I know, it feels kinda wrong but i love it 😅

    • @janekgwizdala
      @janekgwizdala  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Just borrowing him temporarily... 🤣

    • @andygreen5565
      @andygreen5565 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@janekgwizdala I’ll allow it but only because it’s you. Podcast was awesome btw.

  • @soulfred
    @soulfred 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Go!

  • @Lorneplumber
    @Lorneplumber 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fantastic episode but then again they all are

    • @janekgwizdala
      @janekgwizdala  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're too kind! 🤣

  • @peterhammond4570
    @peterhammond4570 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Janek, you mentioned dr hi-beams, i have these on my bass right now and whilst i like them i think i preferred the dunlop super bright nickels, lasted for ages and bright tone that really sings

    • @janekgwizdala
      @janekgwizdala  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm actually going for a really dark tone, and I can't stand the feel of nickels... way too soft for my calluses. Just a personal preference.

  • @SirGranular
    @SirGranular 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    55:01 I got my first real bass from the Bass Centre in Birmingham in about 1995....a Bass Collection Fretless..... which I lost/had stolen..... then found for sale about 15 years later and 300 miles away.

  • @Deep42Thought
    @Deep42Thought 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    here i'm with 21:9 monitor looking 21:9 video with black borders around video *sad noises

  • @AJbassist
    @AJbassist 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    adam savage has great maker tool collection, blink 182 tom just changes the bass note and bam hook, my ultimate di sound , is origin bass comp into darkglass vintage deluxe , in a setting i took from Amos Williams of tesseract trying to emulate Avalon u5 , then run a lot effects oc2 overdrive with boost gate button / rat style pedal, Russian muff style pedal, Ibanez chorus, I need envelope filter, digit delay switchable settings and reverb wit swell feature

  • @cyrileimert6206
    @cyrileimert6206 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well... THANKS

  • @BARTFUNKBASS
    @BARTFUNKBASS 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤❤❤

  • @cosminiuga
    @cosminiuga 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What amazing guitar is that?

  • @johnhood7098
    @johnhood7098 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the hole on the top of your bass? Upper sound hole like some acoustics?

    • @janekgwizdala
      @janekgwizdala  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The bass is chambered and that is the equivalent of an f-hole.

    • @johnhood7098
      @johnhood7098 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@janekgwizdala thank you! That’s unique.

  • @JaredLeesBass
    @JaredLeesBass 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So... About the hammers... I'm a blade Smith/ blacksmith and probably have 60 or 70 hammers😂

    • @janekgwizdala
      @janekgwizdala  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I KNEW THIS WAS A THING!! As soon as we said it... 🤣

    • @JaredLeesBass
      @JaredLeesBass 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@janekgwizdala you weren't wrong! Also, I'm a product of the 80's too, and fell into the sub oc-2 tone before I knew it was a thing other people were doing, and I still I this day can't get past using my og oc2 on my board.

    • @hoot7588
      @hoot7588 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@janekgwizdala Ditto! :-)

  • @marihinoBass
    @marihinoBass 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hammers, for sure. But real fun starts with chisels and handplanes.

  • @Ataxia100
    @Ataxia100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    th-cam.com/video/XrCGB34RBOg/w-d-xo.html anyone know from what song is that bass line?

    • @janekgwizdala
      @janekgwizdala  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      U2 With or Without you....

  • @timtobin669
    @timtobin669 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Turn up that bass

  • @vilohdi7189
    @vilohdi7189 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The panning camera has to go. Especially annoying when you constantly have to readjust your mic. 🤦‍♂️

    • @janekgwizdala
      @janekgwizdala  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      The panning camera has to go? Do you write this comment on every video on youtube that has motion in it?
      You are of course, like literally everyone else on the planet, invited not to watch if it bothers you so much. There's an audio version of the podcast if you literally can't stand looking at someone move a microphone once in a while.

    • @musicmaestro88
      @musicmaestro88 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@janekgwizdalaexactly. I'm a fan of the pan... movement is life. 🎸💪🏾

  • @wallace_nelson
    @wallace_nelson 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've been waiting on this Video!!!

  • @crunchymunchy55
    @crunchymunchy55 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    What a day to purchase the hx stomp, need that janek x ian helix deep dive

  • @maryjaneforgie9882
    @maryjaneforgie9882 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Massive Attack meets Glen Campbell...hell ya!!!!!

  • @ClearStreamsUK
    @ClearStreamsUK 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi, I'm Mike, and I'm a hammer collector (and maker!!)😉😉

  • @inkeye1
    @inkeye1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t normally tune into Podcasts because the conversations feel one-sided. This was a great conversation between two great and accomplished bassists. This is a format I can get into.