Spreading six loads of asphalt millings over a recycled concrete base, and thoughts on cheap material vs. the more expensive stuff. You get what you pay for.
NIce video, I am thinking about getting this for my small driveway. You did a great job of spreading the millings. Love the classical music at around 6:01. Thanks for the honesty in the video!
Looks good! Will create a great base. If the larger pieces still bother you later, you can skim the top with some true crushed millings and finish it out that way. Pack it down well, rent a vibratory roller, get a decent sized unit. Make it solid, then you have 3-4 inches of this with 2-3 inches of crush and there will be no mud or potholes for decades. I like the effort you put into it, actually getting off the loader and sweeping and laying fabric where you needed to. Good to see. I like the attitude displayed at the end as well! If you can’t find rocks, the bigger pieces go a long ways to creating a nice French drain if you like! Buying rock that size is really pricey in my area of Canada! You are developing a pretty awesome yard there! I’m very jealous! Hahaha! Nice when you already have a skid steer on the place!! I have a 50 hp John Deere yard tractor I kept when I sold the ranch. It works, but not like a skid steer. I did the base work and then hired a paving company. I paved to the house and shop, the main access ways, then did millings outside the edges of the asphalt 10 - 15 feet creating curved edges and protection for the pavement edges, sorta. I wasn’t happy until I had them come with a product they sprayed over top the millings and then I packed it down with the vibratory roller a second time. It’s super solid, still drains, and looks real even and consistent now. The top 2-3 inches were crushed millings. They cost more, but we’re worth the little difference in price to get the final look! The millings, even when crushed were quite a bit cheaper than gravel and I think they are much better so far! I had gravel everywhere at the Ranch of course. It was always dusty and needed constant maintenance to keep it from getting muddy and to keep ahead of the potholes. Please stay safe out there! Thanks for sharing!
Robert Meshew - if I remember right it was Hawk Seal or something like that. The work is not very old, about 8 months but I standing up to winter so far. It hasn’t been too cold so the spring will be a test if we get too much moisture in this area. We get frost heaves that destroy asphalt. Fingers crossed, it finished up a light grey than the asphalt, but they will fade to the same colour eventually.
The driver can "tailgate" the load for you with very little work for your driveway. Instead of just dumping load into a big pile that requires you to then place the load. You will probably have to do very little work after.
I did a driveway with crushed recycled concrete (called 21AA I think). The recycled concrete appeared to have been screened to +-1". There was a small amount of crushed demo debris in the loads (brick, small glass & colored ceramic tile:), and a few bits of nails/wire/metal. In fact I was a little concerned that I'd pick up something in my car tires, but that never became an issue. The crushed concrete compacted hard and has held up well. They also offered asphalt millings, I didn't like the looks of that because it seemed too 'chunky'. Also I wondered how easily millings could be re-graded in the future should the need arise. I don't recall the price diff between recycled concrete VS millings.
GOOD DEAL. worth it. alas I don't have a bobcat or a steam roller so it cost me $900 a load $1800 for 2 loads but they spread it and compressed it nicely. :-) I like it enough that if I can afford it next month will get 2 more loads to finish off the drive. SO much better than dirt !! (I live in Rural New Mexico so things like this come at a hefty premium price tag :-( a "load" would be $280 in town $380 out of town where I am. so for $500 more per load they bring all the equipment. worth it.
I've worked with the asphalt millings many times. Rent a smooth drum roller with a vibrating drum and go over the millings several times. Do it on a warm day. It will tighten up the driveway and will be less likely to erode.
@@struggle4all they hold up very well. We used them for the construction company parking for larg machinery and dump trucks and such. You don't get a lot of pot holes like you would with gravel. Also cuts down on the mud and dust. You just want to make sure you get it thick enough to withstand whatever will be driving on it. Also the millings will bond back together with the heat of the son so you won't lose the material. My advice is to rent a ride on smooth drum roller and compact them
@@struggle4all I've had millings in my driveway for 11 years now and never had a pot hole sense. You will want to go at least 4 inches thick with the millings. Don't be afraid to go thicker if you need to.
I install gravel driveways in central Fla. The asphalt millings are the best to use if you compact them with a vibratory roller. They will stay loose on top but harden under in the sun. Concrete fines work well too but stay dusty.
Thanks for the video. Great job. I'm doing my driveway and part of it looks like a rug board for some reason with all the groves in it. If you can share some wisdom as to what I'm doing wrong and how to fix it. It will be greatly appreciated. I'm using a Kubota L3301 tractor.
The company I work for usually gives the millings away to someone who asks for them if they live near the job. As far as the chunks go, that’s usually unavoidable unless you order processed millings that went through a crusher at the plant. At that point, you’re better off ordering 57s and/or 411s.
I'm in Maryland also. Just bought a house and this muddy driveway is the bane of my existence. But concrete or blacktop is just not in the budget right now. I'm researching this as an alternative. Thank you for the video and commentary.
mikeinbmore yes the mud is terrible, I feel your pain! Make sure you have a good base down first before applying, otherwise you might have to go over it again after it sinks in and settles.
May I suggest getting your self a small york rake, or maybe building one yourself, then you can clean up the driveways and level it out at the same time. Once smoothed, just run a water filled roller over it behind the tractor to compact it some. Millings will harden over time in the heat of the summer.
Carlos Hernandez I paid $150 per load. I’ve heard of more and less. If you can find a road crew pulling it up fresh they may give it to you for free. Most have to pay to dump it.
@@jrodjared yes in NJ I was able to get this stuff for free !!! they had to pay to get rid of it so they GLADLY dumped piles of it off at my shop. sadly here in NM. $900 a load (but they do all the work too) about $380 a load if they just dump it.
NIce video, I am thinking about getting this for my small driveway. You did a great job of spreading the millings. Love the classical music at around 6:01. Thanks for the honesty in the video!
Tbh, I really enjoyed the music in the video.
Looks good! Will create a great base. If the larger pieces still bother you later, you can skim the top with some true crushed millings and finish it out that way. Pack it down well, rent a vibratory roller, get a decent sized unit. Make it solid, then you have 3-4 inches of this with 2-3 inches of crush and there will be no mud or potholes for decades. I like the effort you put into it, actually getting off the loader and sweeping and laying fabric where you needed to. Good to see. I like the attitude displayed at the end as well! If you can’t find rocks, the bigger pieces go a long ways to creating a nice French drain if you like! Buying rock that size is really pricey in my area of Canada!
You are developing a pretty awesome yard there! I’m very jealous! Hahaha! Nice when you already have a skid steer on the place!! I have a 50 hp John Deere yard tractor I kept when I sold the ranch. It works, but not like a skid steer. I did the base work and then hired a paving company. I paved to the house and shop, the main access ways, then did millings outside the edges of the asphalt 10 - 15 feet creating curved edges and protection for the pavement edges, sorta. I wasn’t happy until I had them come with a product they sprayed over top the millings and then I packed it down with the vibratory roller a second time. It’s super solid, still drains, and looks real even and consistent now. The top 2-3 inches were crushed millings. They cost more, but we’re worth the little difference in price to get the final look! The millings, even when crushed were quite a bit cheaper than gravel and I think they are much better so far! I had gravel everywhere at the Ranch of course. It was always dusty and needed constant maintenance to keep it from getting muddy and to keep ahead of the potholes.
Please stay safe out there! Thanks for sharing!
What spray did you use over the millings? What were the long term results?
Robert Meshew - if I remember right it was Hawk Seal or something like that. The work is not very old, about 8 months but I standing up to winter so far. It hasn’t been too cold so the spring will be a test if we get too much moisture in this area. We get frost heaves that destroy asphalt. Fingers crossed, it finished up a light grey than the asphalt, but they will fade to the same colour eventually.
The driver can "tailgate" the load for you with very little work for your driveway. Instead of just dumping load into a big pile that requires you to then place the load. You will probably have to do very little work after.
That’s what I thought too. But all the ones I’ve contacted won’t drag the load. Irritating. I’m about to do a long ass road at my house.
I did a driveway with crushed recycled concrete (called 21AA I think). The recycled concrete appeared to have been screened to +-1". There was a small amount of crushed demo debris in the loads (brick, small glass & colored ceramic tile:), and a few bits of nails/wire/metal. In fact I was a little concerned that I'd pick up something in my car tires, but that never became an issue. The crushed concrete compacted hard and has held up well. They also offered asphalt millings, I didn't like the looks of that because it seemed too 'chunky'. Also I wondered how easily millings could be re-graded in the future should the need arise. I don't recall the price diff between recycled concrete VS millings.
GOOD DEAL. worth it. alas I don't have a bobcat or a steam roller so it cost me $900 a load $1800 for 2 loads but they spread it and compressed it nicely. :-) I like it enough that if I can afford it next month will get 2 more loads to finish off the drive. SO much better than dirt !! (I live in Rural New Mexico so things like this come at a hefty premium price tag :-( a "load" would be $280 in town $380 out of town where I am. so for $500 more per load they bring all the equipment. worth it.
@ $150 load, you got what you paid for. @ $300, you get nice screened millings that take out all the chunks and things you were dealing with
Some thing about milling.
Every time I put some down It always seems to disappear.
Only when it rains
I've worked with the asphalt millings many times. Rent a smooth drum roller with a vibrating drum and go over the millings several times. Do it on a warm day. It will tighten up the driveway and will be less likely to erode.
How well does it hold up over time?
@@struggle4all they hold up very well. We used them for the construction company parking for larg machinery and dump trucks and such. You don't get a lot of pot holes like you would with gravel. Also cuts down on the mud and dust. You just want to make sure you get it thick enough to withstand whatever will be driving on it. Also the millings will bond back together with the heat of the son so you won't lose the material. My advice is to rent a ride on smooth drum roller and compact them
@@struggle4all I've had millings in my driveway for 11 years now and never had a pot hole sense. You will want to go at least 4 inches thick with the millings. Don't be afraid to go thicker if you need to.
@@chrisward405 Well I guess I'm sold!
Rent a vibratory roller we will mix used oil and a little bit of diesel fuel! With the heat
I install gravel driveways in central Fla. The asphalt millings are the best to use if you compact them with a vibratory roller. They will stay loose on top but harden under in the sun. Concrete fines work well too but stay dusty.
I have some erosion at the end of my driveway before it meets the street. Looking to compact RAP mixed with asphalt sealer. Advised?
@@devonblaine Anything mixed with RAP or any other aggregate to bind it together is good. But make sure to compact it well.
Thanks for the video. Great job. I'm doing my driveway and part of it looks like a rug board for some reason with all the groves in it. If you can share some wisdom as to what I'm doing wrong and how to fix it. It will be greatly appreciated. I'm using a Kubota L3301 tractor.
The company I work for usually gives the millings away to someone who asks for them if they live near the job.
As far as the chunks go, that’s usually unavoidable unless you order processed millings that went through a crusher at the plant. At that point, you’re better off ordering 57s and/or 411s.
Millings will get you by till next time but will be a great base for future proofing the drive way
Was it just me or did a couple of those trucks look like they were half full ? I could be mistaken though.
How thick did you make yours and how has it lasted from 2019 for two years?
I'm in Maryland also. Just bought a house and this muddy driveway is the bane of my existence. But concrete or blacktop is just not in the budget right now. I'm researching this as an alternative. Thank you for the video and commentary.
mikeinbmore yes the mud is terrible, I feel your pain! Make sure you have a good base down first before applying, otherwise you might have to go over it again after it sinks in and settles.
Why don’t u just say ( I’m skint)
Those metal tracks help break those big pieces up and compact it to
What would the cost be of one of those loads of millings? Just a estimate
May I suggest getting your self a small york rake, or maybe building one yourself, then you can clean up the driveways and level it out at the same time. Once smoothed, just run a water filled roller over it behind the tractor to compact it some. Millings will harden over time in the heat of the summer.
Same thing as a box blade
Looks a right mess,
How has it held up?
That is dirt cheap man. I’ll pick up all day for that price !
How many tons of millings was per load. Im trying to figure out about how much i need for my driveway. Thanks
I think your are looking for howmay yards.
That truck looks like it's dropping 20 yards.
a load is usually 14tons. at least around here. its enough to cover around 1200swft at 2-3 inches IIRC.
Lol that load was definitely not 20 yards. A quad axel can only haul 17 yards and those were tri axel trucks
Here’s a tip for ya,you can only level going forwards
what is the purpose of laying the plastic film 1st?
I was curious about that too. its my understanding weeds can grow up through millings so it should not be needed.
Mr Morgan can I get to work with you my last name is Morgan also
Rent a roller and then save up for some rock.
It hardened up on its own, real nice now.
Whats the cost per truck?
Carlos Hernandez I paid $150 per load. I’ve heard of more and less. If you can find a road crew pulling it up fresh they may give it to you for free. Most have to pay to dump it.
@@jrodjared yes in NJ I was able to get this stuff for free !!! they had to pay to get rid of it so they GLADLY dumped piles of it off at my shop.
sadly here in NM. $900 a load (but they do all the work too) about $380 a load if they just dump it.
Millings not killings lol
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