Getting plunked by a baseball is a noble and painful art | Dorktown
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- Most batters do all they can to avoid an inside pitch. But Brandon Guyer, the god of the hit-by-pitch, has used it as a weapon.
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I just watched a 14 minute video showing me a million different charts essentially saying "this guy gets hit by pitches a lot"
don't forget dick padden
@@cheesyrevenge lololol
If you don't know now ya know
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If that’s your takeaway from these videos, perhaps this type of content is not for you.
Which is fine. Some of us simply like a “different” sports story. Others are fascinated by statistical anamolies. Baseball history/stat buffs adore this type of content- outliers in a sea of the mundane.
What if Brandon Guyer was Barry Bond's bat?
This is an underrated question
That would break baseball.
Jon Bois, do this episode. Right now.
I'm dead 😂😂
Barry Bonds would never strike out again.
Man, everything is becoming part of an extended interconnected universe, even dorktown episodes all exist in the same google earth file
Expecting a major DTCU crossover movie at some point
Memeo Supremo into the dorktown-verse
Jon Bois Cinematic Universe.
We live in a Dorktown Universe
This one probably should have been an episode of High Score though.
Ok but Tim Locastro is faster.
Foolish Baseball no respect for my boy Tim
My new favorite weird baseball player
That's some amazing timing
Foolish Baseball and Jon Bois collab?
@@samwalker6765 I've never wanted anything more, then get Jomboy to do a breakdown of the collab
9:19 At that point, I wouldn’t even call him an “on-base hitter…” he’s more like the on-base hittee.
This is what I love about Bois. Takes a player I don’t know in a sport I’m relatively unbothered by and he ends up painting a beautiful picture so you become emotionally attached in 15 short minutes.
Take an idea that isn't really interesting
And then narrate it with details and precision till the point that
Now Every person named Bob is special to me and I hope that everyone of them could be pro athletes
Thanongrit Suriyarungka I feel Bob in my veins now
Oh man. Check out Summoning Salt, he'll tell you the history of speed running in a video game you've never heard of and you'll be cheering by the end. It's wild stuff.
@@LeoStaley Watched a lot of Summoning Salt and Bois is on a different level from that
couldn't agree more, summoning salt is great but Jon has such a unique style, he is undisputedly the best (maybe the best on the entire platform? i cant think of anyone better). just reading 17776/20020 confirms that for me@@gregorkorosec6131
Yo they’re gonna build a freaking city out of the charts.
It’s gonna be an actual dork town.
4 years later and you are correct, it’s beautiful.
Jonah Hill: He gets on base.
Top quality comment
💀😂🙌
BONEYMALL!
You mean Peter Brand
Scout: Alright, so he gets hit a lot.
Billy: He gets on base a lot, do I care if he gets hit or gets a hit?
BRB removing my window-mounted AC unit
I... damn it. Yeah, need to do it too.
You'll be glad you did.
Jon Bois truly is a man of the people
Mista! Mista!
I kinda wish you had described how he was able to get hit by all these pitches. I mean, I assume he just kind of leaned in and refused to flinch back when a wild pitch came but it would still be interesting to know if he had any special strategies, where he preferred to take hits, did he wear a special elbow guard or whatever
It's a combination of crowding the plate (not as much as Rizzo, but close) and not bothering to avoid inside pitches. His HBP rate went down considerably after his move from the Rays to the Indians, indicating the Rays' heightened preference for Sabermetrics and OBP. Since he wasn't a starter, him getting injured from a HBP wasn't a big deal to the organization.
I thought there was a rule that a batter must make a good-faith attempt to avoid getting hit by a pitch to count as a HBP. Clearly during Guyer's stint this rule was not enforced.
*Guyer walks up to home plate*
Guyer: "Ah shit, here we go again."
Guyer's body*
"... started the game, threw exactly one pitch, hit a batter with it, and was ejected. The only time on record this has ever happened."
Get ready for a lot more of it when the Astros season kicks off!
Nah, I expect players will be somewhat subtle in choosing when to hit them. Somewhere in the middle innings with nobody on base and an out or two, or something like that. Looks less suspicious.
@@kyletucker3811 why would they ve subtle? Nobody, including the MLB, has any respect for the Astros whatsoever
@@BrandonA1 To avoid punishment. Just because you don't respect or like someone doesn't mean you are willing to get suspended over it. The MLB has basically said they're going to punish pitchers intentionally hitting batters this season. They're looking for an intentional hit. So you have to make it look unintentional. That's just common sense for someone that isn't looking for a suspension.
When?
Nah, I think the umps will overlook the first dozen, every game.
These clowns have never heard of TIM LOCASTRO
Gah, you beat me to it!
Just wait until he plays a full season
Foolish BB!
@@hiimemily Tim Locastro already beat you to it.
Matthew “we interrupt this to show you Tim Locastro racing Albert Pujols again…”
Jon Bois presents: Man Getting Hit By Baseball
Give Acuña the $10,000
This sounds like a title made by the onion
@@traberburns It's a Simpsons reference...
*doink* Ooooooh!!
Ow! My balls!
“There are now more strikeouts than hits”
Damn that’s impressive, goes to show how great modern pitching can be
Yeah but it's boring
Also the way no hitters hit for contact any more because it statistically isn't worthwhile
That’s not really about the pitching, it’s more about hitting approach. Guys are more often than not going up to the plate looking for hard hits and a certain launch angle. When you’re more concerned about perfect home run environment than just making solid contact, you’re gonna strike out a lot more than you get hits.
ArmadilloLover99 what is interesting though is that the overall hit rate isn’t declining that much, which suggests that what’s declining in favour of strikeouts are fly outs and ground outs.
Sergeant Pickles That makes sense because ground balls in general are on the decline, especially since the strategy for beating infield shifts has become hitting the ball over the shift rather than through its holes. As far as fly outs, that can also be attributed to the launch angle revolution as due to that, a lot of the balls that used to be warning track outs have become homers or doubles off the wall.
watching this right after the "what if bonds didnt have a bat" video, and I really think baseball's dark secret is that one of the best things to do as a batter is absolutely nothing
if 2016 Guyer was able to combine his HBP ability with elite walk rate, we're talking about an MVP candidate. An MVP candidate, for a guy who is thoroughly mediocre at everything except letting things happen to him
Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing? Wait that doesn't work here.
ya but u dont just get walked, you draw walks by being a good hitter and pitch reader
Hey, Guyer did hit a double off Aroldis Chapman in Game 7 of the World Series.
What you don’t know, is that Guyer is one of the strongest people in the world. He knows he can’t hit. So he trains his leg muscles so hard they are like steel, and he can absorb 100mph pitches like they are like nothing.
@@gj1234567899999Dang it Guyer, you're not fooling me. Everytime someone talks about you, you gotta load up a sock puppet and start pontificating on how strong your legs are and how "they feel like steel wrapped in leather" or how its like "walking on tree trunks."
Brandon, you got a problem man. It's one thing to be proud - it's another to be so weird about your own legs.
The only HBP god I accept is Craig Biggio
Look up Foolish Baseball on TH-cam and watch his most recent video and his whole channel is worth while if you enjoy baseball content
And here I am talking Ron Hunt and that one terrible Cubs manager.
@@chriswalkey2050 Already do actually he's great!
You took the words outta my mouth... Go ASTROS
@C R yeah in his later years. But unlike this guy he also had tons of 1B, 2B, 3B, and HR while still amassing 3 shy of the dead ball era record.
Better have Tim Locastro in this video
foolish baseball and jon bois collab?
Hmmmmm?
Locastro has too few at bats to be in it (224). With that said, Locastro gets hit by pitches slightly more per 162 games that Guyer. This might be skewed by sample size though
He better be.
Exactly my thoughts when I got this notification.
Bois: What is his name?
Alex: Brandon GUY-r
Bois: lolz
I played some baseball in my day, I played a 6 game season.
1 base hit
2 walks
7 hit by pitch
I led my team in hits
A couple weeks ago, Jorge Soler (KC) reached base on Catcher’s Interference twice. The first time in MLB history that had happened
Derek Dietrich got hit by 4 pitches in one game in 2019 and had more HBP then singles, doubles, and HR’s
I think I remember that game. The announcers were so steamed up about it and were trying to figure out what rule he broke
@@PlaySA Turns out he didn't break any rule. He just sticks his elbow out until it sticks more than a third of the way into the strike zone. Dietrich is a weird player in his own right.
according to baseball reference, he was HBP in 8.17% of his 306 PA this year, too. Not sure why he wasn't included in that graph
Nick Wagner same thing with Tim locastro
Thing with Dietrich is, Guyer takes his hit and goes to first base. Dietrich takes his hit (which is usually a strike anyway and shouldn't count as a HBP) and tries to fight half the other team. That's why Guyer is an amusing outlier, and Dietrich is a prick.
“The triple, the two dollar bill of baseball” 😂😂
Just waiting for that Dorktown/Foolish Baseball crossover.
We aint ready
This story begins with me getting hyped about the fact that there's a Bois video up.
You should do a video on home field advantage, and how much of an advantage it really is overall and/or on a per team basis. You could do it for any sport, or compare different sports home field advantages.
Fun fact, getting hit by a baseball was literally the only thing I was good at back in little league. Literally got hit by a pitch more often than I hit the goddamn ball lmao
#MeToo
Same I led the league in on base percentage with only like 10 hits
I’m glad I’m not the only one with this experience. Although I was also a foot taller than everyone on my team (including the coaches), so that might’ve been a part of it.
I was better at beaning kids back than got thrown out in 3 pitches once with 2 beans
One year, in my freshman year of high school, I was able to have a .400 OBP, many of them through HBP, without ever getting a hit that season. If that isn’t strange, I don’t what is. I couldn’t hit for my life, but I was still able to play baseball, because I could draw BBs, get HBP, and steal bases at will. I, in no exaggeration, had no other marketable baseball skills. I admit I was terrible, but it was my ability to get BBs and get hit, that allowed me to play longer than I should have.
This video reminds me of an early "Cheers" episode when Coach Ernie Pantuso brags about his ability to "lean in" and was also the reason why he had onset cte dementia. That would have been a cameo perfect clip for this vid.
The whole reason I watched this! th-cam.com/video/xUqDEO2Hlxk/w-d-xo.html
I probably scrolled 3 minutes to try and find someone else who wanted to talk about pantuso
While I am indifferent to sports in general, I find these kinds of videos fascinating. You present a person or a thing that most people think is inconsequential, e.g., getting HBP or the "saddest punt in history", and use statistics and many charts and anecdotes to make it compelling.
The hit by pitch god is literally my trainer now and he’s such a great guy man. Coach guyer is such a god
has he seen this video?
Brutus: *noble*
Tim lecastro and Brandon guyer: *the most noble*
TH-cam algorithm: since you been watching hit by a pitch videos
Recommend:
Enjoy your freshly found Jon Bois addiction
Same here.. Funny how that works out.
You’re crazy if you think I’m not gonna now put Brandon Guyer in all my starting lineups in The Show. Thanks Jon for this helpful tip
13:50 Thanks for the reminder Jon, this is why you're the best
I'm a big fan of the format of continuing off the previous episode and just adding to it. Also this design of showing all the boxes first and then filling them in with info as it becomes relevant. I really think this combo is a winner.
Yeeeeah I'm really gonna need a tie-breaking breakdown video of Tim Locastro vs. Brandon Guyer
I love the charts as always! I was kind of hoping you'd explain HOW Guyer gets hit by so many pitches, though? Like, the numbers make it likely that it's intentional, but how does he actually do it? (I mean, just putting himself in the way of the ball wouldn't do it. I remember trying to get hit intentionally in Little League - much less dangerous than with MLB pitchers! - but more often than not, the ump would call a strike or even an automatic out if they thought I'd gotten hit on purpose.)
I found an article called "bruises for bases" from MLB's own website. Essentially it's his stride before he swings, combined with an instinctual inability to get away from lower, inside pitches. He also states he doesn't want to change anything because it would affect his batting which is somewhat believable. I'd say it's 6 to one, half dozen to the other. Other than the bruises, it's not hurting anything, so why change?
@@user-eb4vs6si1n Everything you just said plus I suspect he was bad at hitting inside pitches, so pitchers tried to pitch him inside a lot.
To the people talking about Tim Locastro: He has 224 career at bats. There's this thing called "sample size"..
That's a large sample size
That's the difference between Foolish Baseball and Jon imo. Jon finds the interesting happenstances and shares them like they are, letting them tell the story on their own, whereas Foolish Baseball pursues and even "invents" them, sometimes exaggerating for storytelling effect.
Both are fun and cool in their own way!
@@rebeccatrishel considering a full season is 162 games and an average player has multiple at bats per game.. no it's not
@@solsticelacer We're calculating the percentage of at bats that he's been hit by pitch, right? We could math this
Solstice is 100% correct. See what small sample size did to Jeff Francoeur.
Ernie Pantuso was a legend for his ability to be able to get hit by a pitch. No matter where you threw it, he’d be able to get the pitch to hit him
2020: Enter Jose Altuve
Watch Altuve break that record this season
Brandon Guyer?
I’ve never heard Craig Biggio’s name pronounced that way before. Seems pretty odd.
Same. I expected to see a lot of ground covered on Biggio and Rizzo.
When I saw the title to this video I was certain it was about Craig Biggio. He was Hit By Pitch 2nd most all time at 285, just 2 shy of the 1st held by Hughie Jennings at 287. They mention Jennings in this video, but his career ended in 1918, before the “live ball era”. Biggio is far and away the all time leader in the live ball era in his 20 year HOF career. I mean, he didn’t have to get hit by pitches, because he’s actually one of the greats! But, he still “took one for the team” because he wants to get on base at all costs & he’s tough as nails. He can’t even get a S/O or a mention? They mention Tommy Tucker who is 3rd on the all time list & his career ended in 1899. They mention Minnie Minoso who is 10th on the all time list with a 20 year career. smh.
DO BETTER DORKTOWN!
13:07 _"Kelly Shoppach vs. himself"_
*this is why I love jon bois*
I have a feeling Altuve and Bregman are about to break this record in 2020.
Not likely, now...because of things.
There's always 2021
@@woods1one yeah that didn’t work out either
You know after this season you could make a Collapse episode about the 2010s Dodgers.
Their best players would need to leave for that to happen.
@@Ofallthings089 if like 2 more leave I'm all for it. The Howie section is gonna be godly
They are still in the midst of a 7-peat division winning streak.
@@lovelessissimo if they never end up winning a world series it's kinda all for nothing though. If the braves never won a world series in the 90s that whole era would be looked at as a failure of sorts
@@westinmcclister1507 I see what you mean, but when a team is winning 106 games during the regular season, it's hard to call it a collapse.
A choking marathon, yes.
Collapse, not yet.
Craig Biggio: **Oh, so you’re approaching me?**
Brandon Guyer really does it all. Saw him hit an inside the parker vs my Royals in 2015 too
I’m surprised you guys didn’t even mention the real HBP god Tim Locastro.
Having recently learned about Minnie Miñoso I was glad to see he got a mention in this video, but kind of surprised since this was about HBPs you didn't mention he led "the AL in times hit by pitch a record ten times, and [held] the league mark for career times hit by pitch from 1959 to 1985." [per Wikipedia]
I love this, as the hit by pitch champion in my area when I was a kid. I had years averaging more than one per game.
Why not, the safest way to get on base, and (at least with kids) definitely made the opposing pitcher reluctant to pitch inside to following hitters.
Got a base on catcher’s interference once, I couldn’t figure out why my swing went wonky until the coach told me.
I love this these dork town and chart party videos. The 80s motif to them just gets me everytime
Please make more!!! This is literally heaven for sports nerds. You guys also have very nice soothing voices ;)
Welcome back Jon! (Also, no mention of Craig Biggio who was one of the most hit players ever? Strange.)
Biggio was hit on 2.3% of his regular season plate appearances in his career... look at the chart at 4:44 and see where that puts him. His highest single season percentage was 4.6%. See where that would land him on the chart at 6:38.
The conclusion is that yes, Biggio got hit more than the average player and a huge number of times in total (because he played 20 seasons) but not at a high enough rate to get him into the totally outlandish tier that SB Nation loves to zero in on.
I think it would be interesting to examine who pitched the most "difficult" no-hitter. One way to measure that could be examining no-hitters vs. incoming batting average over a period of time. Valid episode topic?
Great videos guys, the graphics really are a treat. Since we're all dorks, I've gotta jump in at 10:12, you say there are only two ways to reach first without swinging the bat, a BB and HBP. The batter could also get called out looking on a dropped third strike and reach base without swinging.
That was some really solid advice at the end. Thanks bro
Whenever Jon Bois uploads a video, my day is made ❤️
Would have been curious to see you guys break down his batting stance. I imagine the distance from the plate as well as the degree at which he bends his knees plays a huge factor in why he gets hit so often. Also where he gets hit the most might paint a better picture. Great video as always
Went to high school with this dude, crazy to see an SB Nation video on him!
Live for these videos, man that’s sad
Nobody:
Dorktown: Here's a video about Brandon Guyer
Hatchett.XYZ yikes bro. Crimge
@@justinw3403 super cringe
NEW DORKTOWN HELL YEAH
Someone should do "the creation of SB nation deserves a deep rewind"
A tear of joy rolled down my eye when I saw this video pop up.
As an engineer and a baseball fan I absolutely love this videos. Thanks guys!
Can't wait for the Ty France episode
Hey! Minnie Minoso! The guy played pro ball for more years and in more countries than anyone in history.
Met him in 2012 and he was such a sweet old man. Good to see him mentioned.
“Back 2 back pinch hit by pitches”
I never thought I would hear these words in this sequence
This guy will be surpassed handily by Tim Locastro once he gets to 1K PAs
Lol when you mentioned Vina, I was like "PLEASE mention the St. Lunatics remix" haha
I just want you both to know how much I love these. And thanks for the tip about the window air-conditioners. Doing your part to save the world.
Thanks for the tip about the window-mounted A/C unit! Gonna save me hundreds.
Okay Jon Bois, this was a good start. But I’m gonna need several more hours of content from you
I started watching these videos cause I was baked, and liked the music and images. Now I also like sports!
Love your visual statistics.
Brandon Guyer is know a mental strength coach for the Angels. Wow.
In what HBP video can you not mention Craig Biggio?
WE LIKE SPORTS AND WE DONT CARE WHO KNOWS
Stupid question, but where is this quote from. Is it from a movie or show, or is it just a meme in the comments section of all jon bois' videos?
Tylersaurand it’s a lonely island song
@@kaminsod4077 Just 2 Guys - We Like Sports
Football, football, football, tennis, hockey, golf
These videos are the best videos on this platform
I love your stuff. Look into Superbowl 40 and the statistical improbabilities for all the crazy bad calls all on one team.
He was my favorite player on the Rays, he was so fun to watch
"Do I care how he gets on base?"
"You do not."
Nick Cipollone nice reference
Thanks for the heads up Jon, but I recalled my window a/c unit from its perch last weekend.
This is the quality content I come here for.
So now we're building New Dork City?
Thank you for Jon Bois, we are not worthy
Good God these vids are so good.
I can't get the Kelly Shoppach slide out of my head. I come back to this video often and skip to it. Absolutely amazed.
Here after another pitcher got ejected after the first pitch of the game
Dbacks player Tim Locastro got hit by 22 pitches in the 2019 season and 22 stolen bases and 2 walkoffs.
Loved the PSA at the end of the video. You’re right! Those things do leak a lot of heat.
This was amazing 😭
Craig Biggio?
But how many time did he convert those HPB into RB? Was he a threat on the bases?
It would be sad to conclude that his unique "talent" didnt contribute to the team's success...
Probably not, as he was on the Rays
That’s irrelevant to the videos point
@@felizkodie5328 Like your comment..
TEQ Snukka how dumbass
Great episode
Always happy to see a new bois video !!
You are not even going to mention Biggio...okay
I met Kelly Shoppach once, as part of a clinic the Pawtucket Red Sox put on for young fans. I remember this incident because he was describing how as a catcher, you had to wear a cup, when one of the kids cup-checked him.
He was not wearing a cup.
brandon buyer went to my high school about 10 years before me, I even shared the same hitting coach he had in his little league days, also had the chance to meet him in spring training once :)
A little disappointing there’s nothing on Tim Locastro, Your Favorite Weird Baseball Player 😔