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- I re-mastered the audio of the this video and published a new version (TH-cam doesn't allow replacing a video...).
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Although this video has hundreds of likes, some posters complained about the loud music, so I lowered the music volume in the re-mastered version. This was one of my first videos and I made it without a mic so there little audio commentary to hear...it isnt the fault of the music...sorry.
stop playing that music otherwise a good video.
Growing hops
I am a Professional Audio Engineer and suggest two things to your great videos: 1). Lower the music level. Use a Dead Cat on your Mic or add a Lapel lic with a dead Cat. Once again your videos are great!!!
Putting a dead cat on the mic sounds disgusting.
Totally agree with Martin. Turn that o loud music off please
Very helpful video, but the music made it difficult to hear the dialogue. Maybe it's just that I like to hear the sound of the ocean.
Martin
Thanks, I appreciate the comment. Yes, the sound just wasn't captured very well due to the wind. For Christmas we got a new microphone with a fur wind cover, so next summer's and on recordings should have clear sound.
the problem is not the microphone;, it's the music that detracts from this video's quality
'Can't hear anything because of the music. If you want to do a disco video don't do it under the guise of a sailing video.
I concur
I actually just didn't watch this video because the voice was just drowned by the music. So while from other videos I've really liked the way information is put together and well explained, this is all lost if you can't hear it.
During editing it would help if you set the music to a lower volume, at least during the informational part of it, go nuts on intros and outros, I mean some of it is not really my kind of music, but to each their own, you should be free to do what you want with your videos, I would just recommend keeping the volumes in check.
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This video is the first I made, and the audio content was recorded without a mic, on a windy day. So the recorded audio is simply, generally inaudible. I also got a bit carried away with the music, and in subsequent videos I use a lot less music or none at all.
Unfortunately I no longer have the original content material so I cannot do a re-do, this version is all I have on this interesting subject. Despite the music, you can learn some sailing knowledge that you see nowhere else on the internet.
Great video, shame it was completely spoiled by awfully loud background music which drowned out the helpful instruction. I had to switch off halfway through it, couldn't stand any more!
I did too! I spent more time reading the comments than watching the video!!
Same here. What is with the loud music? Totally unnecessary. Stopped watching half way through. Pity.
Nice video, thank you very much but could do without that loud beat music. Please turn it off
I enjoy your lessons, easy understandable and practical, thank you. I used to enjoy sailing jib only and will shortly start again. My boat is now ready and sailing to start shortly.
i enjoy this music and vibes! also the powerpoint
Thanx for the wisdom imparted and yeah I would ixnay the musical back ground after a proper intro to the video. It will actually bring us along for the nautical experience and not so much rock hall event. I have a drum set and piano in my dining room and a sailboat in a slip, they don't jive together so well.
Great video! That music in absolutely bonkers, I kinda love how you got carried away, as you say! Instant and continuous club bangers vibe
Thank you, excellent vid.
I sailed twice with jib only, before seeing this, and it was a great surprise to find out how well the (J105) handled.
It's a terrific gambit when you don't want to mess with the main, you're short handed in good air, or just because you feel like! The boat speed was impressive and there was very little heeling, which for some passengers is a plus. Anyway, I decided to look it up on youtube. Your video was spot on, matching many of the observations I made, plus I learned a number of tactics to help me improve.
Terrific!
(music is great, just too loud).
the music does not help the viewing experience
Music drove me away
Nice job but the music kills everything.
One year, late in the season, my main halyard, (wire,) jammed up top. So I sailed the rest of the summer with jib only. Simple and fun.
The Ark-Angels, Michael & JibReal, Both, of every Beth & Bath Rule,
Rule in every Atom & Molecule, in every Ship, Jib, Mast, Sail, & Keel!
“Coming about” with jib only would be a great video.
Tom and Ellen, thank you so much for making these videos. They are by far the best video sailing lessons I have seen.I feel like I just discovered a treasure. Please don't stop.
I particularly like that you repeat the demonstrations from different vantage points. I also love the graphics and sailing tips like, "Stop the turn when the jib reaches the safety line" or " Pull in the jib sheet until the jib is 3 to 5 inches from the spreader."
I visited your TH-cam home page where you asked for suggestions for video subjects.
My suggestion is that you do a whole video course. Just walk through the curriculum for the ASA certifications. Whether you do that or not, I promise to watch every video you make.
Regards.
Mike Sorensen Agreed, along with Maryland School os sailing!
Mike,
Many thanks for the kind words. Some new videos coming in the next few weeks.
Tom
Music makes this video terribly difficult to listen to what you are saying!
Thanks guys !! This is great stuff ! Please post more sailing !!
Tacking under jib alone is something you could touch on. We end up with more fish hook type tacks under the jib alone. Nice video and thanks.
I sail jib alone quite often. It does take a bit of work to keep the boat heading to the wind.
I just love it when the music is so loud that I cant hear the person speak
Very good, short and informative clip. No need for the loud guitar music though...
This is great!
Great job! Good tips.
Good music,good video. Thanks
Thx for the reply!
Great education. Thanks.
Thanks for making this video. We're looking into updating our furling system and this was helpful. Dude, the comments on this are hilarious about the music tho! I think if we want to get more comments on our videos maybe we just need to crank up the dance tunes! Bwaaaaa Haaa!
6knts to windward with a reefed jib only? is it blowing 40kts or the hull made of teflon?
I see a lot of cruisers using jib alone, but on my boat I can't seem to get used to it. For some reason my J boat doesn't like jib alone, lee helm is annoying and the tendency to turn down in big wind is overpowering when boat speed is low. Also I can't point nearly as high. When furling normally, the usual plan to turn into the wind, spool in the jib and then lower the main. But when jib is up alone, I think it may work better to furl when headed downwind by releasing the clew line and spooling in the jib without turning into the wind. I'd be interested in what others do. It's tricky to point directly into the wind for long enough to furl completely before the boat loses forward momentum and steerage, then turns sideways.
Do not add music background. It makes the video hard to hear and understand.
Great, thanks.
good video , thanks
I didn't know people still had Hammond organs. Funky, man.
these are awesome videos!!! but please remove the electronic dance music in future videos. i can't even hear you.
Very interesting - just starting sailing, will give it a try. What was the wind speed in knots in this video?
low to mid 20s...
I'm learning to sail on my own in a dinghy that can't reef the main. I'm thinking this would be a good way to learn while the winds are high.
I wanted to comment on the music but others have plenty already. He makes a good point. Sailors think the main has to lead the sail selection and is what is left up when wind gets heavy and last to reduce...instead of the other way around. What's smarter? leave up the sail that can be easily reefed (furled) from the cockpit, or leave up the sail that you have to climb on the coach roof to get down in a big blow?
Upwind sailing, with the jib alone?
I can think of only two reasons for it. a) lazy sailors b) not comfortable with handling the mainsail.
On the downside: a) difficult to get the boat balanced b) many helm corrections (i.e. slower boat) c) cancelling of the slot effect (i.e. slower boat) d) difficult to tack, especially on choppy sea.
For downwind sailing, yes, especially if the sea/wind conditions make it susceptible to an accidental gybe.
Plus it provides a better steering control. Image you have a trolley; how would you better drive it to the direction you want it to go? By pulling it from the front, or pushing it from the back? Likewise, on a sailboat you transfer the CE fore, with the headsail on, in difficult situations, and in downwind.
I'd say someone who isn't wise enough to sail with jib alone, when it is appropriate to do so, as explained in the video, is a stupid sailor.
Good information, thanks! I have a lot of difficulty tacking with the jib alone. It always stalls out just as I head directly into the wind. Any thoughts?
Steve,
I think the key is to ensure that you have good boat speed prior to starting the tack. If the boat is sluggish or slow and you want to tack, consider easing the jibsheet and bearing off just a bit to a close reach to pick up speed. If you have the jib trimmed correctly, you should re-establish good speed. Then go right into and through the tack. Same thing after coming through the wind, dont be afraid to to turn to the close-reach position to pick up speed before turning back to close-hauled. When close-reaching, you are adjusting the jibsheet to ensure the jib is not stalled, not the rudder. When close-hauled, adjusting the boat angle with the rudder has the unfortunate result of slowing the boat when you least want that to happen...When sailing with just a jib, don't go to close-hauled until you are carrying speed built close-reaching.
Good luck,
Tom
Yeah, you can pick up some speed (if speed it the problem) by bearing away - since reaching is a faster point of sailing (and probably puts your boat at a better angle w.r.t. the heading waves).
And you could also start the tack by back-winding the headsail, to more easily drive you through the dead-iron zone.
But there are situations where tacking with the headsail alone is too difficult (or impossible?) For instance, on choppy sea. The best you could do then is to sync your tacking with the next upcoming wave, and wish that you did that right, and hope that with the help of that wave you'll make the follow through.
That's why upwind sailing with the headsail alone is not a clever idea.
Do you have the guitar tabs for this video?
Great tips. I love jib sailing but only because i'm lazy and don't want to fight with the main. LOL
Do you want me to listen to your comments or the Music. You have to decide...
I enjoyed learning about the use on the jib. I did have one concern, which is the distraction of the loud music which almost covered up your voice.
Like your video very much !
Good video, but what's with the club music? The opposite of sailing zen IMO
I have a huge genoa and often use it alone downwind and reach near hull speed. Having the main up is often not worth the bother and the extra concentration required
Thanks very much, but I wish the music was softer. It’s hard to hear the speaker!
Blow boaters seem to be a whiny bunch when it comes to music. Love it when they try to yell over the music upwind in my local harbor
Wonderful video! Lowering the background music level a bit would make it even better. Thank you for sharing.
Mahalo for the wonderful tutorial! I do wish you would not run the 'Dub Beat' music in the background as it distracts a bit from your lesson?
nice boat
Great instruction. Irritating music.
Looks like you guys enjoy that little boat.
What is it ?
Nice video 🙂
Nice content, but WHY was it ever posted with the music covering up the instructional voice?
Didn't lower the music enough, you should lose it altogether are you sailing or dropping ecstasy what's goin on here??
Can you talk some about a run downwind with a jib only in following seas?
Ali,
Running downwind, either the jib or main can be effective, the sail power is entirely based on the amount of sail area with either sail. However, a big plus of the jib only configuration , especially in high wind or rolling sea conditions, is that a jib cannot accidentally jibe, whereas a main easily can. In high winds, an accidental jibe can injure crew or break gear.
See th-cam.com/video/E3ncFyj4rag/w-d-xo.html
good video but what were you thinking with that loud awful music?
This is a remastered version?! Music is still too loud.
Its good to note that sailing thus , depending on boat design, can in higher winds 25 -30knts make it difficult to make the tack , and pass thru eye of the wind....found that out thru experience...the hard way, nearing close to a wharf..had to gybe headsail as she was not behaving.
Yes, that can be a significant issue as with jib alone it is difficult to maintain momentum. One trick to try, is prior to the tack, easy off just a big to incease speed, then turn up and right into the tack, benefitting for the additional momentum this provides.
Dont use jib alone in fractional rigs can be dismasted while sailing under jib alone.
If you are new to sailing or close to shore, the "jib only" is a bad idea. Much more wind and that vessel would not be capable of holding a beam reach but rather pulled directly downwind - which appears to be the shore in this video. This problem is worsened on a smaller vessel. The jib and main work together (balance) and make the boat steerable in all points of possible sail. On many vessels the "jib only" sail configuration will cause lee helm - absolutely undesirable (and perhaps dangerous) in gusty conditions that are common on the lakes I sail. Fun to try but make sure you are far (upwind) from shore.
That recently happened when I was sailig with a 15ft open boat reffered to as a "Valk". Close haul was possible but once I tried tacking, the boat just wouldn't turn and instead I was pushed downwind to shore
@@sailingaeolus
Patrick
The video is explicit about the situations where sailing with just a jib are appropriate. I don't know what you think of as "poor conditions" but usually that means higher wind speeds if not also wave action. Just a jib is fine with good wind pressure, as the video says you need to pay attention to the operation of the boat. The sailor who has control difficulty under a jib alone, will probably have just as much difficulty being over-powered with both a jib and main.
Perhaps trailer sailing you stay home in wind conditions where the jib and reefed main are too much sail, and you need to make a choice... Some smaller boats WITHOUT a furling jib, like yours, in high winds just a main can be more appropriate, in mid-size boats like my current 31', just the main provides very little power, and it would poor seamanship not default to use the jib.
@@patrickboek1138
You need to establish and maintain momentum to be able to drive through a tack. If you have difficulty tacking reliably, then bear off to a close reach, on that point of sail when the jib is properly trimmed you will have greater speed than close-hauled. Start your tack from close-reaching, the speed will take you through.
What make of boat are you sailing ?
Our current vessel is a 1987 Pearson 31-2.
Thanks for watching.
Tom
O.K. In case of good wind = sailing speed well + freedom in cocpit.
I love that this is strictly sailing tips. No travelogue or monotenous drone shots of blue water beaches. Keep up the posts and please.....lose the music lol!
Well put together the music was real but not too much
The thing that confuses me is when I took my boat for a first sail in very strong winds with Genoa only the boat has a very strong weather helm instead of lee helm. It was very tiring as my boat is tiller steering.
Liam,
Did the genoa produce a high heeling angle? If you boat was heeling a great deal, I would suspect perhaps the weather helm of the immersed hull shape overrode the imbalance produced by just a jib, and you end with weather helm. Try some steps to reduce the sail load: partially furl the genoa or use a smaller sail, flatten the sail with halyard tension, ease off the wind just a bit...see if anything helps.
Sail Fanatics Yup, I let a bit too much sail out. That explains it thanks!
What type of boat "Make / Model" is this?
Pearson 31-2.
Good info but at 2:45 I had to leave the disco...by then the music was just too much. Re edit? Content silent is great.
With only a sail
Why use the Jib only technique rather than dropping the jib and sailing with a reefed main only?
Frank
With most sloop sailboats the jib is larger and more powerful than the main, especially a reefed main. So the jib alone will power a sloop much better than just a main, other than downwind where either sail can be effective. Most sloops I have sailed are very sluggish under main alone, but lively under jib alone.
Plus a furling jib is much easier to deploy that sailing and reefing a mainsail.
@@SailFanatics Thanks for the info and the great videos. I bought a Cape Dory Typhoon a couple of years ago and your videos really help me learn and practice good sailing techniques. Thanks again!
Please don't turn the music down. TURN IT OFF!
which sailboat is that?
Pearson 31-2
Love the music...
background music too intrusive and loud, could not hear what was being said to helmsman
Actually its the wind noise that means you can't hear the helmsman.. see the pinned comment.
You should probably put a link to the re-mastered version in this description so people don't have to go searching for it. Or just delete this video all together.
Lose the background 'music' please. Otherwise most excellent!
Why this music? I mean, no music would suit much better.
Great content but lose the background music
The music is too loud and I can't here what is being said.
interested, but couldn't watch due to the music....
The captions are jibberish
Ditch the music and I'll watch the great video.
Excellent but would have preferred if you had cranked the music up a bit. Cheers
I feel like you could have been making 7-8 knots if you had the main up...
I don't think the boat would have been much faster with the main up, as due to the wind speed we would have needed to then reef the jib (and the main). If we were sailing any distance in these conditions, I would have the main up, with both the main and jib reefed. We might see some better speed, but the major advantage is the boat would be better balanced and easier to handle. Sadly, not likely to ever make 8 knots close hauled...
it's a big shame as the music spoils it too much for me to watch :(
OK, sorry didn't read your explanation.
was going good TILL THE VOLUME GOT OUT OF HAND
Good information but horrendous music. For informational videos, silent backgrounds are best!
Good info spoiled by loud irritating music, had to turn off in the end, sorry
Music music music ........maybe adjust it ?
Music is way too LOUD.
Music too loud’ ca
This seemed like a really good subject and useful information but the music was so loud I couldn't understand the speech. It go so annoying that I couldn't watch the whole video. I suggest you take down the video & drop the music level and repost it as a revised video.
Turn the music off! It overpowers your voice!
Nice but mutch to noisy the musik does not contribute
such a great informative video. too bad the loud music is competing with your words! sorry to say but your music is very annoying.
I think the content of this video is great, but the background music is super annoying
Music sucks. I sailed a few weeks jib only when my main halyard was jammed.