The One Ring | Why Graded as PSA 9?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2023
- Why did "The One Ring" get graded a PSA 9? Was it deserved? Let's find out.
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On purpose to indicate the 9 Nazguls that are looking for it.
And the 9 who set out from Rivendell...
This‼️🙌🏾
I have said this before but I think they should have graded it as a 1
If an MTG card is "worth" more than 114 euros, it costs more than its weight in gold. for a piece of printed paper
Insane, right?
so lol like processor or nano comopuiter and figure ecc idiot
😮 wow thanks for that Info… so … My Deck is worth more than a Brick of Gold? 😂 (fully blinged out cedh deck)
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if an mtg card is "worth" more than 2167 euros , it costs more than its weight in osmium, the rarest precious metal (and rarest existing element)
We all know that the harder it is to open a pack, the better the pull for that pack. Must have took tremendous force to open the one of one ring pack that slightly damaged the cards inside.
Centering can't be a grading factor, as the card was the only one printed. So how ever it was centered is the way it was supposed to be centered. If it wasn't, then they would just redo it.
IMO, I don't think centering was what made the card receive a PSA 9. There are three other factors: Surface, Edges, and Corners. My guess is that it was a surface issue not a centering issue.
Surface issue. They said there was a little warping on it. Must be from when it was put in packaging.
If the centering on the card is let's say, 20/80 left to right, it's off centered.
You can make all the rationalizations about how it's the only card but it doesn't change anything.
@@madhatten00 MTG foils has always been atrocious when it comes to warping.
@@kendarsin You can't determine if an UNIQUE card is 20/80 left to right or right to left. You have no standard or basis to determine right/left in the first place.
it's incredibly amazing how easily a card can degrade in quality seemingly from the moment it was printed and put into a booster pack at the packing/processing stage. One would think the card was immidiately put into a sleeve upon being pulled from booster pack, however, some people slide the card that was just in front of it just bad enough to cause damage to the pricey card.
The only way to get a full 10/10 card is getting it right from the factory and having it sealed right as it comes off the press, the alignment needs to be spot on and it can't get scratched/ damaged while in the printing process
So unless you work the factory and made a 2nd copy for yourself and knew what you're doing the cards for consumer use will never fully be a 10/10
I feel the owner should have gotten it graded for authenticity and not a grading number. The number does nothing for the conductibility of the card and it just being authenticated on the label would have made the card look better to potential buyers
pretty sure he did only graded it to authenticate it;). The grade of this card does NOT influence the price at all, nor will it ever;)
@@weetjijwel050 exactly my point, the number on the grading is irrelevant so you might as well make the label nicer to future owners by just not having the grading number and have it graded for authenticity. I have seen PSA gradings where they just put authentic on the label instead of a grading number of course i could be wrong and having a grading number makes it more valuable?
In general the better grade is more expensive, but not with this card. We agree 👊 @@leyasu888
It's really difficult to keep cards 100% intact and even a minor scuff caused by the several people who handled the card.
The people who left those comments obviously (and I mean this with the utmost respect) have absolutely no clue what grading a card actually means.
Yeah...it's interesting to see so much confidence. It's honestly surprising to me that there are still people in the collectible hobby that don't fully understand grading. It dominated the COVID era.
@@galaxiagamingtcg True. Also, as far as "The One Ring" 1/1 goes, if I had pulled it, I wouldn't have chosen to have it number graded. I would've just used the slabbed authentication option instead. It's a pack fresh 1/1, so number grading it doesn't really matter, and I think the numbers on the slab greatly take away from its eye appeal. It would look so much better if it just had the titular information instead. It would command equal value as well as look better on display.
@@sdoren_9074 Having it just authenticated would have been a good move as well. Good opinion!
Or: they (like me) have a different opinion. You really dont see why people would want it to be a 10 @ all? If you really cant see why, thats pretty clueless too;)
People do get the grading, and understand it, no doubt. There has never been a 1/1 before tho, so dont be surprised people have different ideas about that;)@@galaxiagamingtcg
What I’ve been told is that the grading process compares the card to other cards that are literally the same printing. Meaning, that this card must have the best corners, edges, etc out of any 001/001 ring since it is the only one. This could be wrong but I wanted to mention this so that people can know a little bit more detail as to what this video was made to contrast.
If you watch the video where they're showing this card off before it was even packaged it was already significantly warped. I think the unprofessional and mentally disturbed employees at Wizards of the Coast were gnawing on this card for several days.
The problem with all card grading companies is the fact that you can resend in cards and get better scores. Their grading isn't objective.
One of one cards like this unfortunately get to not be graded by the same company at least.
Rating means nothing if it is LITERALLY 1 of 1 tho. They only work relative to eachother 🤷🏽♂️
Dude wasnt expecting to pull it so he wasnt wearing gloves.... more then likely putting some hand smudges or micro scratches on it
Tyler the warrior a 1/1 yugioh card got a beckett 7.
I don’t think the owner dropped the card, they probably made a shit quality card to begin with 👍
Well, it is in better condition than the one at the end of the books.
Interesting
Basically the pop report doesn't determine the grade. Also the fact that it's the only one is meaningless to the grade because it's grade is compared to other cards in the same set, not just to itself.
One of the things the PSA company does is the set registry where people try to build their own "set"" which could be an actual set or it could be a theme across sets. For example, lets pretend people really love Jace, the character in Magic. So someone says I want to get every Jace card in PSA 10 including foreign languages, foils, full arts, etc. You can petition PSA to create this as a "registry set" and the same people will submit to PSA the list of what is all of the known Jace cards. Then the collectors, each will have a user name on PSA website, can say "here is my Jace collection in PSA 10" and other people can browse that set, see what everyone building this set has so far. One guy could be the furthest in building the set and he has 72% of the set built where another person just starting could have 15%.
One of these set registries that is the most popular is getting older baseball card sets like 1983 Topps Baseball, 792 freaking cards to get in PSA 10. PSA also has a population report where you can see how many of a card was sent in to PSA to be graded and how many came back as a PSA 10. There are many cards in these older sets that have like 200 sent in, 0 came back PSA 10. These set registry collectors will pay triple, maybe even 4 digits for some common card that previously was pop 0 but now there is a first PSA 10.
Why are there so many of these 0 pop cards that are easy to get and cost like 5 cents? Because on the actual printing sheet they are crooked on there so when normal cutting occurs, it is never PSA 10. In order to get a PSA 10, there will need to be such a odd tilt to the cutting that it just happens to cut correctly to center the crooked card AND the card needs to survive to this day with perfect surface, corners, etc.
Thus since there are cards with pop 0 in a PSA 10 grade, like the 1/1 One Ring, we can see there is some sort of universal set-wide standard to judge against and not judging against itself. If it's judging against itself, who's to say which version is PSA 10 and what is a lower grade?
The grading companies knew it was coming so could have considered this matter ahead of time.
For example, they could have graded it ‘Unique’, because it is a one off.
That would have forgone the endless debate.
You can do that actually but whoever submitted it checked the option on the PSA form to actually grade it. It was stupid since, unless PSA waived the fee the one time so they could get the card in their slab vs. say BGS as advertising, checking to grade a unique and valuable card will greatly increase the fee since they ask for a percent of final value when they grade valuable cards. Imagine paying $40,000 (or more) for grading...
They should have just done it with BGS, get it graded as Authentic, and paid like $20 fixed fee (assuming they still do that).
Also, there's no need for Unique. It's already a 1/1 and there have been hundreds, maybe thousands of 1/1s that have been sent in for grading.
Grade is irrelevant with a 1/1........... its slabbed to protect it further mostly
So its wizards fault? 1/1 and yall couldn’t make it right?! Id expect nothing less 😂
Well, once it's packed out, who knows what could happen...french fry grease on fingers, fingernails too long, bad pack opening technique, etc.
I'm here to point out there are cases on record of people re-sending 6s for grading and getting them back as 10s. 6s might be an rare occurence, but 9s and constantly re-graded as 10s all the time. Grading is not as much of a science as this video makes it out to be. The reason the card got graded at 9 could've just been that the particular grader that handled it that day felt like it.
psa is crazy i remember one of the paul brothers submitted the same charizard card and ended up getting a 10 how can you grade a 1/1 card I guess they can base it off previous magic cards on the centering and framing but there is no way unless damage or scratched it should be getting a 9
You don’t understand. If there’s a nick or a scratch it drastically decreases the value. If there is a speck of dust it decreases the value. Also Wizards prints their cards with cheap stock now, so I’m not surprised it would be easily scuffed just by opening a pack
You dont need 1 more of the same cars to be able to tell its condition why you peeps parroting the same nonsense
@@mk177 Exactly there is nothing else to compare it to, the grading system honestly doesn't even make sense in this case.
Thats demential in lot of ways
Because it was opened and touched by human hands...
it's because MTG delivers foil cards BENT straight from the pack, PSA 9 they didnt account for the card being bent and basically marked, otherwise it would've been psa 6 or 7 🗿
this card went to post malone right?
Yup!
Better to go in the hands of a celebrity that has a true passion for the game than some corporate head that would just display it as a trophy, like I initially predicted.
@@byronsmothers8064 It's kinda both since he can't really play with it...but to be a trophy for someone who is passionate for the game is good enough.
because PSA is a joke. ive seen cards graded near mint 7 that have whitening all around the edges. where if you sent the same card in on a different day it would get a 5 or 6.
In the 80s centering was way off especially in sports cards
Today with the machines used to make cards, makes absolutely no sense how a card comes fresh out of a pack less than 10.
Scams! I feel terrible for people who collect....it's a real shame
Absolutely not true. Just go through any collection and you will find a large variety of differently centered cards. Even though the machines have gotten pretty damn good in terms of quality, they are yet far from perfect
@@weasley313 smh dude! Are you kidding me??
@jonr9518 no I'm not kidding. And if I could send you a picture over TH-cam you'd be getting a photo of 3 recently printed cards with vastly different centerings that are sitting just infront of me after about 2 minutes of searching a random box.
@@weasley313 you read the comment wrong
Let's be honest here,
It is more likely that wotc had a copy for advertising (that they destroyed before the release of the set) than using the same card that would be put in the booster
Unlikely. Very unlikely.
The card could have been graded a 5 and it wouldnt have changed its value. The population of the grade is what directs the price.
NLG, with wizards printing process it was probably not even good quality.
I will say since its been found the lord of the ring set has lost its appeal to me. That chase high was so much fun.
It doesn’t matter that it’s a 9. It would still be worth the same amount if it was graded a 10.
Grading this card is the most stupid thing to do. Playing it without sleeve is actually the best way to increase its value.
Actually you're not far off...because if you brought it to a tournament and played it with, it would have added lore to the card like how Black Lotus, Summer Magic Hurricane, Chaos Orb and cards like that have extra story.
Imagine fucking so badly your quality control that even the most important card in your sets is fucked
Yea ima go ahead and just say cap to all of this. Yes for a normal card that 100% would be the case, however this isn't a normal card and special rules and limitations need to be made for cards like these. Even if they did stand by their grading process it would make way more sense to simply SHOW why you put it at a 9 instead of just saying it's a 9 and making everyone speculate. At the end of the day, card grading means nothing and it varies way too much to be worth anything significant in its state right now. At the end of the day the value of the card is determined by the buyer not you or the number someone put on it.
everyone thinking it should have just been a 10 doesn't know what grading means
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I was one of the people that didnt get why it wasnt a 10, and still dont. I get the criteria, its so you can compare your card to a card that is the same, but with a different grade. Of this card, there is only one. So if its 'off centre', for instance, one could also conclude that this is just the way this card is (being the only one) and therefor everything about the card should get a 10. There is only one version, so that version has to be (and will always be) the perfect version of that card.
just resubmit the card a few more times, you will get the 10.
I doubt anybody would question their credibility by giving this specific card and automatic 10 😂😂
Not true. If anything this particular card would get a lot of photos and a lot of scrutiny. If they graded this 10 and there is a visible flaw, it would pop out massively. PSA would take yet another major hit.
Yea, of course the grading process should pass through all these steps (centering, edges, corners, surface), and WotC knows that pretty well, i mean they've printed cards for 30 years, ok? this grading process isn't recent. So if they knew about PSA grading process, which is a fairly standard and broadly known process, why didn't they print (or re-print) the card until it was perfect? come on, it's the 1 of 1, do you have any respect to the QUALITY of your product?
Exactly. Being one of one doesn't automatically lock it in as a PSA 10. They knew that this card would get graded. Beckett even had a bounty to encourage the owner to get it graded through them. Therefore, it would make sense that they should have printed this card in perfect condition AND protect it as they were showcasing the card for advertising purposes.
Ligma.
They were just being buttheads, they could have given it a 10. I bet you wouldn't be able to figure out what was the problem with it.
The grade is irrelevant.
so idiot magic comany to not print on 10
because grading is a scam, next
Sure is 😂, can't disagree with the argument of... Oh wait there isn't any :)
What would even be the point of that huh?
Yeah PSA is high af its 1 of 1. There cant be any other grade but 10. Its pack fresh mint.
Grading is all a sham at the end of the day, should have been a 10. Post probably just didn’t pay them enough money for the 10 since thats literally all it takes.
the only use grading has is making sure a card is authentic, no other reason to buy a graded card outside of that
@MegaMinecrafteFan wrong, the difference in value between a 9 and 10 is night and day. If it was gem mint it would've been worth over 3 million rather than the 2.6 it was sold for.
Dude quit slurping PSAs toes.. People have cracked 9s and resubmitted for 10s many times. They have no concrete credibility