Nine Waikiki hotels and vendors under state scrutiny over empty beach chairs
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- During the latest visit, state officers saw "rows upon rows of chairs" set up in the morning on lands under the management of DLNR specific to the area of Waikiki Beach fronting the Moana Surfrider Hotel, the Outrigger Waikiki Hotel, the Royal Hawaiian Hotel, and the Sheraton Waikiki Beach Resort.
they are trying to keep the beach for themselves or for their paying customers yet the beach is free to everyone...
Right?!
These beach chairs take up prime beach space for no reason. It's been going on for years and needs to stop.
There’s a reason: These hotels and their companies want everyone to pay to enjoy the public sand. I hope the state ends this type of bullying once and for all.
You can literally use them! Only people that see this as an issue are Karen’s!
@@chriskibodeaux9818 Karen’s what? (You don’t need an apostrophe)
Yes, you can use the hotel beach chairs and umbrellas for a fee.
What next? Swimming fees?
@@chriskibodeaux9818 Go sit in one without paying, you’ll get thrown out.
It's public beaches for everybody.
Correct Grabbing BEACH no no rich jerks......ALOHA
Exactly, I know exactly what these businesses are doing. They are guaranteeing themselves their own “private beach” which is BS!
Hotels got the gov't to close down STR's and now going after the beaches...
And everybody can use the chairs!
Sounds like the city needs to confiscate these chairs.
Shit,I will just go remove the chairs tonight.
@@sw6716 Forreal I'll take 2.
give it to the homeless encampment
People should use them for free then. Problem solved
I tried that 😆, they said I couldn’t use it because it’s for hotel guests only.
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom Tell them to call the police about their illegal chairs and complain people are sitting in them.
@@marcuslinton310lol exactly
exactly
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom omg
Thanks, I hate those frickin chairs that monopolize the beach. Long ago they were only closer to the hotel, over the years they are right up to the shore so you have no view of the ocean if you're in the only open beach space which is left, behind the chairs. Don't get me wrong, it's nice to have an umbrella, but these companies shouldn't be taking all the spots cause they are there first. Hawaii's beaches are narrow, not like a lot of other countries/places that have lots of room to set up this kind of thing! It seems unfair that folks have to get up earlier then the folks that rent the umbrellas & chairs to get a view of the ocean from their towel. Or worse yet feel the pressure to rent this so they can have a decent view of what they already spent a gazillion dollars to get that view. Let's have that laid back aloha feeling that brought me & others like me back again & again.
You can’t even use the umbrellas, if you sit on the sand in the shade of an umbrella they send someone to ask you to move.
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom Yeah, don't move! Tell them to move their empty chairs.
The beach is public property it doesn't belong to hotel or company
Hotels and private clubs have been setting out chairs for many decades with no issues
@@JohnDoe-xu2vxand breaking the law
@@verothomas1524 Ok Deputy Dawg
Government gives notice for this but doesn't give tickets for illegal patking.
They shouldn't be allowed to put out any chairs. If it's a law, where are the cops????? What good is any law, if the cops don't do anything.
it's a violation, not a criminal offense.
Joe Biden destroyed the world...
They should’ve fine those hotels like how they fine those residents in North shore.
@@blueblood723 Police deal with individual violations all the time (failure to use turn signal, failure to have vehicle registration, etc), why are the police trained not to cite businesses when businesses commit these obvious violations?
Police are there to settle active disputes, not for stuff like this. If, for instance, somebody sits in the chair without renting them, the hotel could try and contact the police to have them removed, but then would have to explain why their illegal chair is there in the first place. The police would likely still ask the person to leave in order to settle the active conflict.
locals need to come and take them, its abandoned property
Not cool taking up beach with empty chairs. Hawaii beaches are for public use!
sad part is it took a whole year for the state to come back to check after the first set of citations were sent out. that is the efficiency of the state officials we have. I understand though because Waikiki is super far from their state office building in Honolulu.
Election year probably...
Hotels been doing this for decades and decades and decades… the only reason the “state” follows up at all is because of locals complaining repeatedly.
Yeah my friends and me were ask to move on the beach so they could set up spots for there guests so they called police when we refused. They were charging hundred dollars for use of the chairs and umbrella for the day and had 12 spots reserved out of 30. HPD came out and told us to move so we did. Not fair to locals
Someone should do that again and not move and challenge the cops on it. Should be an unlawful arrest easy lawsuit/payday.
Hotels stopped paying off the cops and politicians.
The State also needs to check Wailea on Maui. This has been going on a long time unchecked.
This is happening in Florida beaches as well. It’s a public beach! Should not be capitalized like public parking lots!!! Ridiculous. People should just sit on them anyway to teach these MFs a lesson. Makes me so angry! 😡 🤬
It's only a public beach when they need money from the state or federal government when there is a catastrophic event. Then they want money from them to help rebuild the beach. After that they are no longer "public".
Island news left out the part of the story of why this is a problem. Got to go to the comments to understand that the story is about corporations claiming public beaches as their own private beaches by leaving their equipment in place.
-Use them. They are in public property.
-Take them. Finders keepers. Abandoned property in public is kosher.
Too many beach chairs. Not enough sand on the beach.
They don’t give warnings when cars are parked where they shouldn’t just fine them like they fine parking violators
Have you seen the beach in front of Aulani? The whole beach is beach chairs. Not just a couple of rows or some here and there. The whole beach!
Disney literally claimed that beach for themselves. It is so packed with rows upon rows of beach chairs that there isn't much beach to enjoy. It's so packed that other than the front row, all you are going to see is the back of other beach chairs.
I mean, Ko'olina lagoons (#1-4) are man made specifically for hotel development, so it's not really the best example. Those beaches literally did not exist (at least as it is now) prior to development. While you could argue that all beaches in Hawaii, by law, must remain and be accessible to the public, if a developer created the place, does this rule about chairs and umbrellas still apply? The public are allowed to use all lagoons, just not private property. It's a tricky one, for sure.
"The beaches they sell to build their hotels..." --Waimanalo Blues
Make the hotels choose. Beach chairs or liquor licenses
It’s about damm time to do something to stop them from claiming that sand is theirs. Hey State and City, if you guys bothered with residents concerns about the sand, then do the same thing to those hotels. Fine them with big bucks every day.
Warnings after a year?
State beach are for people and not owned by any corporation
Business Greed. They should be fined immediately & their license pulled.
I suspect the hotels are well aware they are in violation. the reason they leave the chairs there is it will cost less to pay the fines than pay someone to put up a beach chair every time a customer wants one. I’m predicting they will come up with a per square foot space rental fee. On the mainland u pay a fine for window tinting in cars. In Hawaii u pay an annual fee.
But cops insist the window-tinting rule is for safety so they can see who's in the car. Surprise! they were lying.
Setting up cones on.beach to bock beach for catamaran s Where's the state on this ? The catamaran s are under power and are sounding warning to swimmers power vessels must yield to swimmers (beach goers) Where's the Coast Guard ?
I don't know why they allowed the chairs and umbrellas in the first place. Umbrellas and Chairs made Waikiki crowded and ugly. I miss the old Waikiki👍
It’s all about control and money.
It ALWAYS HAS BEEN ABOUT THAT kids…😊
This has been an ongoing issue for DECADES! Just don’t allow it anymore.
Have a rental stall on hotel premises where tourists can rent em and a worker will set it up and take it down afterwards.
The simple answer is to allow any passerby to use these as a first come first served! NO KAPU! That should take care of the problem. Access for the use of these is the same at any State Park shelter, table, barbecue or restroom facilities.
Greedy Commercial over-reach
Ko’olina too.
Isn’t Ko’Olina private?
@@kalaln323 not the beach
@@PukaSHellTourGuide Ko Olina is privately owned with public pedestrian traffic permitted to and from the lagoon beaches.
@@kalaln323 the beach itself is public all the way to the high water mark. This goes for beaches in the whole state of Hawaii except for maybe Ni'ihau.
@@PukaSHellTourGuide k
This is their way of pushing the envelope to see if they can get away with it. "F" around and you will find out, as the saying goes. It's nice to know the State takes care of this types of situations. It's not first time it happened, and it won't be the last.
How sad just like the rich. Always taking advantage.
Ever since the Big Bang…
yup where do you get your money from prolly a rich person but you dont have a problem taking it huh
your prolly poor and taking advantage
Authorities are too scared to enforce , whose on the bribe payroll ?
Another indication that businesses are increasingly desperate for revenue as tourism declines......Hawaii will feel the pain due to rapidly-rising airline fares and a general economic downturn, as normal. Hard to feel sorry for these companies that have routinely gouged tourists.
Well, when they do this and there is no one sitting in the chairs, WE should charge them since it's a public beach.
They can leave them out if they let everyone use it lol
Very good. If you look at other beaches around the world who do not have such regulations, those shores are littered with vendor chairs for paying customers. Everyone feels uncomfortable by it and no one can enjoy those outdoor spaces with the businesses taking up all of the space. I wonder how long Waikiki had these issues.
Just sit in chair and don’t pay. They can’t do nothing cause you have picture of it being empty.
Hotels are ruining it for the beach boys. Greedy hotels want all the money
I was just at Waikiki at the Sheraton last week of July. It was packed af and everything was sold out. Crazy to see this now.
I get both sides but is this really what state should prioritize ?
Yes.
It's almost like they can do more than one thing at a time.
Locals over tourists… yes.
Also, it’s not like this is a new issue, hotels keep doing this, it’s been going on for decades.
This is a problem everywhere, and it most definitely needs to be addressed. There’s this one public beach in FL, that has public beach access. We’ve been going there since the 90s. Over time though, developers would build on the dunes, and started doing this. You basically can only put your chair in front, or behind. The way the tide carves the sand however, that doesn’t really give you much room in front. But behind, you can’t se anything but empty chairs. It really annoyed me because after dragging out chairs that I couldn’t put out, my mom rented several for us. We were one of the few people using them. We were guilty of promoting this behavior!
It’s like toll roads. You have a public highway that needs lanes, so you add lanes, only to charge people for them, so you end up with a crowded highway, and no one using those lanes. They privatized the public roads, and now they’re privatizing the public beaches. Then again, where I live, you used to have free public access to several lake parks. Now they want to charge you admission. I get that you don’t want people camping for free, but you don’t own the lake, and access to that lake was always free.
This used to be the same in Spain. People would leave towels on them at six in the morning my buddy’s would remove them all and pile up then use the chairs It was fun watching people come down at eleven o’clock wondering where there towels were when all the chairs were occupied 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
unless you're staying at the hotel they don't want you on the beach
Warned a year ago but still happening. It shows that the government isn't serious with enforcing the law. The state owns the beaches making them public but time and time again, people try to claim it's their property. Doing such should be a big fine payable to the people denied or attempted to be denied access.
German tourists would be absolutely upset if they were not allowed to pre-set an empty chair at the start of the day 😆
Cannot even find room for local people. We all pushed down the beach
On our last trip, there were a few chairs to rent which we did one day, but this is an infestation of chairs.
That's about the stoopidest thing I've ever heard.
It’s not commercial equipment! Law does not apply!
The state should do something about the homeless
Just go use them and when someone walks up to you saying that they are reserved cute the law than call the police and recite the law and also let the police know that these companies have broken the law received citations and are still continuing to do so than trying to kick you off the area when the beach is supposed to be free public access. Than let them know you have khon2 on speed dial if they want it to escalate further ez
Wow. Hawaii has big 🙄 issues to solve. However will they solve this dilemma?
Moana’s beach chairs are set way back on the sand so why is it a problem for them in particular?
I do understand the complaint with the other hotels and beach accommodation services taking up prime sand.
Are they on public land? If it's a public beach, then anyone can use it.
Private sector wants our land
Where are we gonna vacation next summer stupid expensive Hawaii or cartel Mexico?
Try Florida or Thailand.
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom lol
@@simone.hawaii
😆
the reason they do this bcuz they want money fr tourist ....Italy the public beach is not free any more , all the restaurants put up their chair and umbrella , if you want to sit at the beach , you have no place , so you have to go to them and pay ....This is NOT acceptable ...I hope the Gov step up and DONT let them do this to public beach ...They DONT own public beach !
So if I can claim a chair and they complain about me sitting there, who is in the wrong, lol? It's like Schrodinger's beach umbrella. If a human sits in their empty beach chairs, it is both legal and illegal at the same time. 😂
No beach chairs allowed, that should be the law
Revoke their licenses! Let the locals take over!
Rent their chair for more than it costs to buy one crooks
Remove all pre set chairs from the Beaches not being cleaned and repaired #Waikiki please use safe Beach protocols for Stormy weather #Sumo
Excellent!
Lower the prices. People don’t have money for leisure anymore.
moral of the story don’t travel everywhere is a rip off
Based on the several times I have been there the location of these are well back from the water and near the Hotel. There is still plenty of places for folks to put up their own setup and even closer more convient to the water. So what is the problem?
The problem is ALL beaches in Hawai’i are public and the hotels monopolize a public resource as if it’s private property.
It’s not the case that the chairs are only close to the hotels, you can very clearly see that in this video where there’s no room for people because the chairs take up all the space. Hotels have also been moving the chairs closer and closer to the water.
What a really weird strange law - makes know darn sense . 🌊🌊🌊🏄♂️🏄🏄🏽♀️🚣🏻♂️🚣🚣🏼♀️🏢🏚️🏢🏖️⛱️
They are getting a public shaming. Let's see if it works.
Beach chairs? Like you have nothing better to worry about?
Government has nothing to do, they are doing tourist business that looks nice and what’s wrong. Not affect beach and environment
I think politicians should be more concerned about the homeless population rather than than corporations putting a few chairs out on the sand that corporations paid to get there from California
Will just raise prices for the end customer for staff to haul chairs and umbrellas back and forth all day. Always a consequence.
I’m sure the people who set the chairs out will be laid off lol great job
Oh no a little bitty fine lol
No, states cracking down on the ignorant people trying to bully in their spots
Who even cares about Hawaii!!😅😅
This is why I decided not to go to Hawaii. I plan to go to England and Scotland where they have respect for the beauty of the beach and its integrity.
Native Hawaiians hate white people
I just move'em!
That's a pretty dumb law.
Whatever resources are used to monitor the chair situation is a shameful waste of taxpayer money.
Shut down the hotels
Wow
good
They are being lazy and cutting costs. They don't want to pack then unpack them so they are leaving them there and saving on labor. They need to be fined.
Maybe they can use Oprah Winfrey and Tom Hanks personal firefighting cruise to keep the chairs picked up. I hear they’re out of a job looking for a new one.
Lame. C’mon Honolulu. These are your income sources. Find something else to do.
The hotels are camping. Take their schidt.
Free
So can own beach now? Our state is run by a bunch of clowns. If I went there and sat on those empty chairs or in that area, will I get kicked out.
They tell you that you can’t use the chairs or umbrellas because it’s reserved for hotel guests.
don't waste your time in Honolulu
Thats fair
Hawaiian cops are hilarious
i'm on the side of Aloha beach services on this one; these are family owned companies that built what everyone knows as waikiki today. The city has slowly fkd with them for years even putting another non local company right next to them. Whatever small locally run companies wana do is fine by me. Aloha
Hahaha busted AGAIN
Lol