Bucket List Gear - Mesa Dual Rectifier Rev F/G
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- Today we hear my transition era Mesa Dual Rectifier. Rev F cosmetics with Rev G specs.
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1:55 Typical Demo
3:24 Leon's base setup
6:20 Boosted with EQ pedal
8:30 Reason Todd loves it.
9:37 be good to one another :D
love EQs. The inverted V boosting mids gives me the Boston tone using a marshall base tone, or Plexi which is my fav amp.
Savage tones! I have a Dual Rec that is currently being used as a bedside table. I should probably "rectify" that situation...
*pause for laughter*
Hahaha best bedside table ever
I’m reporting you to the police!
A mesa boogie dual rectifier, a prs, plaid shirt, and long hair. This video is so early 2000s, the only thing you're missing is a soul patch. I'll let you borrow mine ;) rock on \m/
Either long hair or a shaved head.
I just picked up my first rectifier. Rev G racktifier. It’s soooooooo good!!! Thanks for the tone tips, it’s so different to mark series that’s for sure
YES! Racktifier's are so cool
Throwin' down "Dogman" to highlight the tone - awesome! Ty always had a great tone 🤘😎🤘
Yeah Ty is one of my all time faves
I love that King's x record. The riff on the song Don't Care is so sick
Top 3 albums of all time for me
Great sounding Recto Leon. There is something special about these old Rectifiers that the newer ones seem to lack, IMO. I own an late '92 Rev F and although brighter than the later G versions, I still have to dial a lot of the bass out and like you mentioned, bump up the mids. That is basically the trick to hit the sweet spot with these amps. I'm currently running Ruby 6L6GCMSTRs, EH 5U4GBs Rectifier tubes, and Chinese tubes on all positions minus V2 Ruby 12AX7ACZ and V5 Sovtek LPS. Works like a charm with my style of playing. Love your channel, cheers from South Florida 🍻
Awesome. Now I have a reference point to start out with on my Tremoverb when I get back from the doctors office 👍
Love my Tremoverb.
Another dream amp right there, Tremoverb's are killer!
Whoo, i never knew, that it has a Solid state Recto-mode. After all this years, i´ve learned something new about this beast.
The solid state rectification definitely makes it tighter. Nice option to have!
Oh I see what ola englund was saying when he said that the amp absolutely needs a boost in front of it. I have a mark v but after watching this I’ll totally pick up a dual rec someday!
Ola knows!
I always used mine while boosting it with effects unit. I have to come to find the rectifier models always sound amazing on my kemper unit when you cut the highs ( use a studio eq with high cut on the higher frequencies.) Also use dimarzio steves special the whole time which is high output ceramic.
As soon as you hit the first chord I get a rush of 90s and early 2000's rock/metal songs going through my head lol
Yeah it's total Linkin Park/POD/Bizkit territory straight away
the 2 channel recto is one that is definitely a dream amp of mine 🤤
That sudden Psalm of Lydia Moment! Nice one!
I just got my first Dual Rectifier - a 2 channel Rev G Racktifier. It’s in no small part thanks to your videos on the Dual Rec and the tones from the Back to Zero album. Pushed me over the edge. It’s the most unique amp I’ve ever owned - a voice completely unlike anything I’ve tried before. Thanks!
Dude the Racktifiers are holy grail territory, congrats!!!
Psalm of Lydia! Nice one!
Wolfgang Schneider was just about to say that! Hell yeah!
Thank you for pointing that out....I couldn't place the riff and it was driving me batsh*t crazy.
@@LegionDe75 My utmost pleasure! :D
Not sure what jeff used on that record but "Dead Heart..." is a boosted Recto and pretty much the benchmark for "that" sound IMO.
Leon Todd i believe I read that he used a Krankenstein in TGE, but don’t know for certain
JJ KT77 in the EL34 setting. Spongy with 5U4 rectifiers. JJ 12AX7s in the preamp. Marshall cab with V30s, boosted with a Maxon OD. EQ to taste. Love my triple rectifier rev G from 97', serial number 9833. Bought it off GC used for 900 about a decade ago. Hard to find 2 channels now, everyone is hip to the hype.
Thanks Leon! Another saver vid for when I
have my own house. And Bless all of your Continent during these horrible Wildfires 🙏🏼
Cheers
Thankyou man!
I've owned my rev G Dual Rectifier since 2000, it's going to the grave with me.
I have a Rev. F and it sounds the best on bold/silicon with a boost in front but more to the point, using my EQ-20 in the effects loop. It really tightens up the sound and smooths out the fizz.
Nice review! "X Rectifier" stands for quantity of rectifying 5U4 tubes or every 50 w of power in an amp. Single for 50, dual for 100 & triple for 150 watts .
BUT the single rectifier only has silicon rectification :-) . So i guess that the only rule is : you get 50 watt for each iteration. That's the only rule i came up with. Silly Randall Smith :-)
Ever since I saw your 6L6 vs. EL34 Dual Rec shootout a few years back, I've been lusting for one of these!
Big Rectifier fan!
Mine is a ‘99 triple rev G and love it!
For some reasons I don’t need to boost it and it sounds really tight and crisp! Got the Mesa 2x12 vintage 30’s.
With the volume just under 2 it sounds phenomenal.... for me!
That’s my opinion only! Love those amps 👍
I've only played a triple once, as a backline amp at a show we did in Colorado a few years back. One of the loudest things I've ever heard!
Mesa Rev f and Rev C owner here, Tube amp Doctor tubes are great with how my amps sound. Precision Drive for the boost is great too!
Holy shit. The tone with the EQ engaged was sick. Good stuff man!
Everyone needs a GEQ in their arsenal!
I have this one - the old version with EL34 I love this sound . I love this unit !!!
I’m a big Rectifier fanatic myself Todd! I have owned many in my life and right now I have an early (old) Tremoverb combo. Not sure why but it just sounds the best out of them all. The UK V30s are broken in nicely. I also have a roadking combo with UK V30s that sound absolutely amazing. I can’t empathize just how much I love these amps, truly amazing.
I keep hearing that about the Tremoverb and it's making me want one :D
@@LeonTodd If I had the head version I would have no problem shipping mine to you for a demo, but a combo, let alone 2x12, would be crazy expensive!🤯
Reading the manual is a big help in understanding how the EQ works on these amps. Some of my favorite settings look quite extreme if you are, like me, coming from a Marshall background. I get a nice blackface tone on the clean channel with the bass at 10:00, mids all the way OFF (!), treble at 2:00, presence 1:00, and gain at 11:00 on the pushed setting. I would have never come up with that had I not read the manual though!
Very similar to Fender amps themselves, the tonestack and it's location can throw you if you're not used to it.
Silicon, Bold, EL34, patch cable in fx loop, fx level knob up full.
One amp I never owned, but love all the ones I've played.
Ah the loop trick!
You get a thumbs up just for the opening riff!
Excellent amp!
A pleasure to hear you play, and with riffs from Kings X dogman , everything is perfect 🤘
All you need is Dogman!
@@LeonTodd exactly, that album is so amazing, I still listen to it monthly ,and have been since the release 🤘
Godly tone! Honestly, it sounded best without pedals to me. 🤘💀
One thing about boosting amps is they can get samey. Unboosted it has a unique character.
Haven't owned a single Boogie in well over a decade, but turning the bass completely down brought back a lot of memories of the recto tonestack
Yeah it's a unique thing. The presence control sweep is huge too!
Love the dual recs! I've got a 3 channel, non multi watt dual rec and it is killer. I boost with either a TS-9 or a Horizon Devices Nano Attack. The nano is awesome because as you turn up the selector, it pulls out low end and tightens the tone. It's just absolutely the best amp for my baritone guitars. Great video as always Leon! Love your stuff, man.
The nano attack is such a great pre-boost!
Took the week off to rebuild my channels... to build up the bottom end in drop tuned guitars. Your Axe-FX Recto Models video served as reference and inspiration. Also pulled reference from Dokken's Back For The Attack recordings. Tests included dual and quad tracked parts, multiple speakers and mics.
What I found useful is Fabfilter's EQ, which serves as a Spectral Analyzer showing some of the heaps. Although no bands are being EQ'd, just having a readout and a peak meter, very handy.
It improved my ability to hear frequency ranges, and understand sounds based on various high/mid/bass references.
Of course, you're tweaking parameters all the time in your videos... and I discover your inate ability to dial in sounds.
The drawing board, as it were.
Marshall over Mesa, in a quad tracked hard panned test, each channel received Marshall and Mesa recordings. It filled out some of the size and plugged some gaps in the frequency curve, but a flanging effect, or flamming effect, I believe it's called, was heard. But dual passed was wider, Marshall on left and Mesa on right.
Clips were arranged side by side, and I walk all over the house to hear them distanced from the speakers, but an improvement none the less.
Loudness for content creators, many many times I have to target a specific volume level, which is most of the challenge. My references were tested and they failed miserably. To get Dokken uploaded to YT, they would reduce the level 3.9db. Apparently my MP3 is either compressed, or 2020 doesn't look good for loud music.
Thanks Leon for being so damn good. You rock mate.
Fabfilter seriously make the best stuff out right now, worth every penny. You'll have to do another rig rundown for us!
Great demo! I have a late 90's rev G and I run Mesa branded 6L6's, tube rectified, bold setting with the bass, mids, and trebble at 10 , 2 , and 3 o"clock respectively. Also, I boost it with a keeley red dirt overdrive (tube screamer) set up in the classic drive at 0, tone at noon, and level at 10. Its sounds epic mixed with my, also late 90's, 5150 combo. Keep doin what you're doing!
That was a killer opening groove! The rect is still on my bucket list. The Axe3 will have to do for now.
To be fair, the Recto 1 models in the Axe sound so close to my amp I can't hear it feel a difference in a blind test.
Amp sounds great with ur pedal setup. Good times. Thanx for the video!!.!
I have a Mooer preamp live that I just love, but everytime I try the Dual Rec model I don't like the sound.
Thing is- this video is so super close to what I get, so I guess it models the REV F/G really good? hehe.
Great vid!
Man all these videos you put out are really informative and helpful. Have you ever done a EQ pedal input vs loop video? Hard for me to decide which is better. Rock on!!
Good topic actually, they do very different things depending on where they are in the chain.
The tone you hit with it reminds me of Shinedown! Love it! :)
Yeah it has that huge low end "thrak" you get on stuff like Sound of Madness.
I absolutely LOVE guitar tones in back to zero. And I love the album too, I think it's one of the most enjoyable album that I know. Anyway , I think that you and Mark Tremonti Just gave me addiction to this amp. I just saw a guy that is selling a rev G and I think I'm gonna buy it
I'm a Recto user and you gotta try the EL34s by EHX. It really cuts in the mix with those and brings a more modern edge to the amp.
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Well done and thanks for sharing brother! Be Well Leon!
Nice review , brilliant amp. Not gain but rock power !!! thanks!
Just bought an early 90’s dual 2 channel! R-007280 can’t wait to hear it!
Rev-F#. Ha! That's pretty neat for a name :) Great sounding amp. Has a unique character of it's own!
You had me at Dogman
Yep, that's the tone.
outstanding sounds ! what speakers are you using ?! cab set up ? where abouts is your presences setting on the red channel for this demo ? or all the front settings for that matter, another great video as usual ! keep's coming !THX
That sounds great. That much gaim is addictive. 🎸👍🎸
My cousin has one in his studio, and it's a beast. We played it via a mic'd box and compared it with his kemper after he sampled it and I couldn't tell the difference. Great sounding head. 💝👍💝 Great vid.
Yeah the Axe-Fx Recto is a Rev F model and it sounds bang on with mine!
@@LeonTodd Modeling has arrived..💝👍💝👍
Thanks for a great video mate! Recently got a 3ch dual rec and have been fighting the flubby bass.. I think an eq pedal may solve my problems though!
@alan wake Thanks Alan, ye I have a TS9 and it does sound great.. but would love something a little more versatile for some mid gain stuff on the vintage channels.
Thank you for the King's X riff.
I do own a Rev G Dual Rectifier since 2000. As a technician I had a lot of the 2ch in my hands, from different eras and revisions. They all were unique, which is very interesting for a mass production amp. They have a special thing going on. As Leon has stated, the tube choice matters a lot! I wonder if this particular recto needs a recap job to be done. It sounds a bit squishy and a bit grubby in the low end to me.
I've been meaning to get it looked over as it's been a few years.
@@LeonTodd If the electrolytic capacitors in power supply have never been changed, it should be done. If so, they are longer than 25 years in there. It makes a huge difference in these amps, when they are fresh. And, it is better for their reliability.
Just acquired a Dual Recto Tremoverb... Geeking out on your fantastic Recto vids!
Mine looks to be a very early Tremoverb. S/N R-0025XX. Has the attached power cord. A serial... yes SERIAL FX loop! The 606 transformers with June ‘93 date code.
Yum! How's it sound?
@@LeonTodd Crushing! Hahah It’s so sick! Thanks for tip on trying it in tube rectification mode. I would have likely left it in diode mode otherwise! So fun to play!
Nice! Is it a rev F tremoverb or there is no revisions on TOVs?
I personally own the Mesa Boogie strategy 400 power amp and I have it paired to a Mesa Boogie recording stereo pre-amp. It can play at bedroom levels as well as 400 stereo watts...!!!! Your ears will bleed..!!
Dude, you could create a wormhole with that!
I've only played through a Recto a few times (despite owning three 😅) but if i remember correctly the sound I was usually happiest with was orange channel with bass at noon, mid all the way up, treble at 9 o'clock or lower, presence at noon probably. Dialing the treble that low would have cut most of the gain, though, right? I must have been boosting.
Your EQ is basically a Fortin Grind.
Awesome video ... as always.
I got a single rectifier and it sounds great, but I still prefer my carvin v3, awesome demo!
I have a V3 too! Seriously under-appreciated amp.
I have a Black and chrome Rev. F.
I found it in a pawnshop for 400.00 . # 001320 made 1/93
It looked terrible when I got it.
But it sounds insane and I am just a bedroom jammer. Its overkill but I cant get myself to sell it .
I am not worthy.
Thanks for the vids Leon
Don't sell it!!!
@@LeonTodd
Thanks I won't now.
Can you recommend a good attenuator to get to bedroom levels?
Thanks again.
@@christionorollinetti1768 my friend owned a black and chrome one and it sounded incredible. Kicking myself for not buying it off him when he sold it. Two notes captor lets you knock the output down by 20dB and it's a reactive load if you want to record direct with it.
Congrats; you got that Recto to sound just like a Marshall! 😂
I'll be here all night folks!
Thumbs up for playing kings x 🤘🏻 you get some wicked tones out of that amp, i have obly played a multiwatt recto, and it didnt do it for me. Would love to try a 2 channel.
Still waiting for you to demo a silver jubilee 👍🏻
As am I, the Jube is one of my bucket list amps to try.
4:58 MEZA!
Seems to lack some clarity ,. Not my favorite amp, definitely not terrible though. I just bought a bugera333xl and I"m blown away by it. Super warm, tight and tons of clarity when the gain is cranked. Dirt cheap, would recommend.
Hi Leon. As per your request. I've got a 1997 Rev. G Triple Rec. SN: R-009630. If you want to get more of the Marshall sound, switch to EL34 tubes, keep it in Vacuum Tube Rectification. The EL34's draw a lot more power and can wear everything out on diode rectification. Also, load some slightly milder preamp tubes in it. You can find a good tube kit for it here. www.dougstubes.com/guitar-amp-tube-kits/mesa/mesa-boogie-dual-rectifier-roadster-tube-kit.html . Go with the EL34's and the Rock / Hard Rock preamp tube kit. If you want, or feel you need, you can change your rectifier tubes as well. Bold, on tube rectification. As for the modern/vintage switch, I find I like it with both the orange and red on vintage, it's a negative feedback loop setup on the vintage. Modern disengages the negative feedback loop. I currently have the original tubes in it still from when it was built. It's the 6L6's. I'm switching to the EL's. I'm looking to go to more of that JCM 800 type sound with it so I've researched this in-depth. The EL's as you probably know has more mid's in it compared to the 6L6's. My current settings are bold, tube rectifier, vintage on orange and red and clean on the variable high gain/clean switch. Note, in that setting, ( vintage on orange and red) when on the red channel, BOTH presence knobs affect the red channel, so play with them and adjust to your preference. I also have a NUX Cerberus that I use in the four cable setup. I use the drive pedal it has which is a copy of the JHS Morning Glory overdrive. I have the gain and tone maxed and the volume at 9:00. I have the gain on the orange at noon, gain on red maxed. Bass maxed on both channels, mids at 11:00 on both, treble maxed on both, presence on orange at noon and 3:00 on red. I have my loop selector knob on the back set to Loop on Orange & Red. Each channel volume is set around 9:00, adjusted to match in level between the two and I use the Loop Active Master to control them both. Set like that, I got clean rhythm and pure distortion. You can modify any of those setting to your preference. Just remember as I said earlier, if you switch to EL34's, stay in tube rectification, or you'll shorten your power tubes life fast. Oh, one other thing. The "Single, Dual, Triple" Rectifier name refers to the number of rectifier tubes it has. They all have two modes of rectification, Silicone diode or tube. The wattage comes from the power tubes, obviously. Single rec has two power tubes, 50 watts, dual has four power tubes, 100 watts, and the triple has six power tubes, 150 watts. But then, I'm pretty sure you know all of that. I just heard you refer to the dual rec name meaning it has two forms of rectification. Thought I'd help clarify that. I hope this helps you some with the amp. These things are kittens in my opinion. This is the only Mesa I've owned or played. I got it in 1997. Oh, and the cab is the original '97 recto cab that came with it. It still has the factory EVM12L's. (Black Shadow EVM's). The cab is a slant top, open back top half, closed-back bottom. The head has never played through any other cab. I'm more than glad to help you with any other questions you may have that I may have the knowledge on. Pictures of my stuff are also available, let me know if you're interested and we can link up on Facebook or something. Have a good one my friend.
This is what I'm talking about!
I put el34s in my rev g. Also a Marshall jmp1 pre in the fx in assigned to the clean channel only. Kind of a hybrid mesa/ Marshall rig. Loved it live.
I have a Single Rectifier. The Single Rectifiers are three-channel recs stripped down to the green and red channels and they also don’t have *any* power supply options except for power tube type, if you want to switch; there is no tube rectification option, it’s diode only, and no spongy/bold switch. I don’t have a Single Rectifier Solo Head - I have a Single Rectifier Rectoverb 50 - but that’s just a Solo Head with a spring reverb whacked on. Anyways just wanted to say that sadly the Single Recs don’t have power supply options. I love mine anyways though :)
Good luck if you want to get a Marshall tone a with the rectifier. El34's won't get you there
nice, i only have the recto recording preamp and a tremoverb, i like to use a boost and cut the bass going into the amp but then use a eq to add a little back in the loop
Killer rig!
@@LeonTodd any chance of some demos of your preamps through a solid state power amp
Love my 96 2 ch Dual Rectifier head but my Blackface Rackmount version eats up everything even my Mesa 2 C+
I usually played my 3-Channel rectifier not high gain, but in vintage and spongy, mid gain. Was my main amp for many years, in various genres and situations. The rectfier is misunderstood. But to be fair, an old 2-channel has a bad clean tone and only sounds good high gain.
I have a Rev G, Serial #R-006483...left the factory 2/96. Still trying to get it figured out. Need to retube it for sure.
Mine had a bunch of issues with the switching system. PITA to get fixed but now it rules.
What song is the riff in 3:48 from? That's the part that always blasts me with rectifier late 90s/2000s nostalgia when I watch this video. 🤘🤘🤘
Hahaha that's exactly the vibe I was going for!
Sounded huge with the boost. What was the amps EQ set to after you’d fine tuned it?
I have the 3 channel mesa dual rec . It's still one of my favorites out of all my other amps . It's my go to amp for most everything . I do wish the clean channel was better , but , you dont plug into a mesa dual rec for clean sounds I guess LOL. Can't have it all ........
I want that amp, always have!
Press F to pay respects.
Ha interesting, I commented here 3 years ago. Now I basically own the same amp in the video. A very early 94/95 small logo, transitional Rev G. Sold the 3 Channel. ;-)
Congrats!
Leon , what kind of guitar tuning is use?) . Cool Sound !
Drop C
Have you tried the Multiwatt version ?
I’ve got a Roadster, had a Roadking II alongside for many years but eventually sold the Roadking and kept the roadster, have been told by many and also read a roadster is the next best thing after a Rev F! Never played one but I need to buy one Thoughts?
Having recorded with both, much prefer the Roadster to the Roadking. That actually reminds me, we recorded Rewind Your Mind as a single before the BTZ album and we used a Roadster. I liked it so much I went and bought my Dual Rec the next week.
Wow that’s awesome to hear! The cleans on the roadster just make it hard to beat!
I've never liked the "Mesa sound" in a stand alone manner. However, in the mix of an entire band, that's where they shine for me.
Good point. I feel the same way about JCMs.
@@KidNato yep, two of the most iconic rock/metal amps right there. Quad tracking a Recto/JCM blend is my ultimate rhythm tone.
Boomer
Leon plays recto the way most people play them the first time: Yea I dont like it.
Leon plaays recto the way he likes it: Yea I still dont like it. Never been a tone I would chase after. Nice demo though.
Rev F's are until serial numbers from 600 to 2500, pass that they are all Rev G's. So that being said the only "THING/TRANSITION" your amp has of a Rev F is the small logo and the attached power cord, although the small logo crates more Low End hahahah. Hope I don't hurt some feelings! Be safe!
Hey Leon, with your SC245 being tuned down do you find PRS guitars in general feel better to play tuned down? And do you tune any of your other guitars down or keep most in standard?
This one lives in Drop C as it's my main guitar for Ragdoll stuff, but I've got a few other PRS guitars (and guitars in general) where I change up the tuning a lot. My Strat and Sunburst LP tend to live in standard, my "shredder" guitars tend to live in e flat.
@@LeonTodd You reckon that's because of what you play on them? I suppose a lot of the shredder stuff was in Eb, not standard (and of course a few AC/DC songs - just because they were out of tune)!
Leon, can u tell criss oliva’s gear
dude, how good is kings x
Dude! The best
How do I know which mine is, what years were they produced?
This is a handy guide oxyde.clan.free.fr/dualrectifier.htm
I f'cking called it a year and a few months [hahahaha] ago.
But yeah that's a great amp. It's a great recording tool too. Not *my* dream amp, but definitely a dream amp.
Thought of you when I got it out!
@@LeonTodd hehe, I'm a dedicated fan
Oh yeah, mesa rectos, well known for the Ataris and blink 182 sound
Yep, total pop-punk vibes!
A list of gear you want when you’re dying? Do I have a different version of bucket list? I wanted one before I was dying, so I took that plunge! Live live you’re dying friends!
Tide underside my pillow
Willow thundering
What a riff
Leon Todd Heavy as hell and grooves like a monster.
I really wish someone would build a head that has the rectifier preamp with a Marshall jcm 800 2204 poweramp. That’s be the ultimate amp for me, besides a jcm2000.
You think you’ll be getting one of new Soldano SLO amps? I’m excited to see what Soldano does now that they’re owned by that company (I’m drawing a blank on the name).
That would be an interesting experiment. I could probably try it by running the fx send off the Recto to one of my Marshall fx returns.
I think BAD, who do Friedman and Morgan, have taken Soldano on so that's promising!
Leon Todd I actually did that at a used music store in Austin. They had a recto recording preamp so I was going back and forth between a jcm 800 and dual rect poweramp. The jcm 800 won for me every time. It would probably make a good video though.
Metallica did that on the Black album (and probably other albums). The Marshall was modded however but I’m sure a stock 800 power section would sound killer too!
@@wheresallthezombies contact Myasnikov amps and see if he'll do it for you!
Leon Todd oh I didn’t even think of that. I’ll try that. Thanks!!
Do you have an opinion on the single rec?
Little experience but what I've heard I've loved.
Leon I have a Dual Rec Tremoverb combo ...that is Rev G area?
That is rev G
@@SluggerStark thanks!
I actually can't stand Rectos...they never seem to fit me and my style of playing. But other players sound amazing with it, like you do. You sound amazing with a Recto.
For me Diezels do the job I want them to do...but they do it without all those "tricks and tips"...they just rock out of the Box.
Diezel does VERY good stuff.
You just pointed out a very good thing there.
Back in the day, a lot of musicians (who didn't necessarily have the knowledge about having to supplement a recto with OD/Boost), would buy a recto with the belief of it sounding tight based on the hype and the tight sound they'd hear from records, and then become completely bummed out when plugin into it.
I'd like to think that it doesn't happen as much nowadays, given that the information is just a few clicks away in the interwebs.
Then again, some people could argue that a good amp shouldn't have to require external gear to reach the end result.
I think both are great, so long as ppl are informed enough to know what they are actually getting out of said gear prior to buying it.
If someone said "sounds like a recto" to me I would slap them followed by a kick in the balls, followed by a possible greco roman wrestling move....
If anyone trying a new amp just sets the knobs to noon and then goes to complain about it on forums, he is making a jackass of himself. obviously most people are going to twist the knobs first to see if they can get a better sound.
This is definitely the amp I would buy if my wife would let me.
Dogman