Age of Sigmar 4th Edition Survival Guide - The Stormkeep #66

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  • Episode #66 - The gang talk about all the changes to the core rules of the game between 3rd edition and 4th edition. Hopefully they didn't get anything wrong...
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    Timestamps
    0:00:00 - Introduction
    0:04:27 - Everything Is An Ability
    0:11:03 - Every Unit Has New Rules
    0:32:07 - Commands and Other Big Changes
    1:01:18 - Army Construction
    1:41:52 - Deployment Phase
    1:52:18 - Hero Phase
    2:01:45 - Movement Phase
    2:11:12 - Shooting Phase
    2:21:53 - Charge Phase
    2:33:41 - Combat Phase
    2:59:21 - End of Turn
    3:14:58 - Thanks for Watching!
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ความคิดเห็น • 37

  • @ParentTrap
    @ParentTrap 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    firstly, you guys are my fav aos podcast. great content and insights. i love it
    secondly, i totally disagree with the idea that battle tactics becoming more interactive is anything but a good thing for the game. both players can and should attempt to deny their opponents’ battle tactics when they can. it’s not a feels bad when both players have the option available to them; it’s another strategic facet of gameplay. tbh the comment about it potentially being poor sportsmanship was really surprising-what makes battle tactics so special compared to other forms of point denial (killing units, taking control of objectives, etc)?
    again, love you guys keep up the good work

    • @lsid4747
      @lsid4747 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      exactly, I was very confused about how denying battle tactics would be bad sportsmanship? In any game, the objective is to score as many points as you can and to prevent the other person from doing so? Any skill differential between players is part of the game.

    • @TheStormkeep
      @TheStormkeep  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Haha I think I was shooting from the hip with this idea - I haven't had enough time to properly articulate it

  • @stevelewis2658
    @stevelewis2658 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    3:01:41 Reading the text on Power Through, it does say that you can “pass through” the enemy unit, as long as you do not engage a new unit. You can stay engaged with the original target, but you do not have to stay in combat

    • @TheStormkeep
      @TheStormkeep  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's what everyone assumed it says, but if you read it again you'll see it says you can "pass through and end that move within the combat ranges of enemy units". You can only move through the combat range of enemies, not the enemy models.

  • @kellyhoesing2573
    @kellyhoesing2573 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Even if the survival guide doesn't save me, what's one more trip to the Anvil?

    • @TheStormkeep
      @TheStormkeep  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      With an attitude like that, we'll see you in the Ruination Chamber soon

  • @drzephy
    @drzephy 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    thanks for the detailed video!

  • @captnkoolcat8269
    @captnkoolcat8269 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I felt attacked by the double reinforced Tempestor comment. Who WOULD do that :eyes:

    • @TheStormkeep
      @TheStormkeep  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@captnkoolcat8269 no decent person would ever use such filth, surely

  • @Mortechai
    @Mortechai 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The problem with bravery and battleshock etc is the CP/Strategems to let you auto pass. Get rid of that insane bravery crap and all of a sudden, you can be rewarded for setting up a big battleshock hit or play to add additional casualties to that one critical unit that just has to die this turn. 9th edition Night Lords stuff is a great example of having really flavorful negative leadership play only to have your opponent say "oh thats cool, but I dont care, all that means nothing after this one CP ill spend to auto pass". tl;dr, keep the flavorful game mechanics in, get rid of the immunities.

    • @TheStormkeep
      @TheStormkeep  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Even if you removed the immunity to battleshock losses, I don't think the mechanics of it were very good. It wasn't very fun losing 10+ models in a unit after 10 of them died, or having a Stormcast run away because one of them died.

  • @SpasticSloth78
    @SpasticSloth78 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Love the new look!!

  • @markg.3171
    @markg.3171 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just 3 minutes to sighhammer phase

  • @tomwalsh522
    @tomwalsh522 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Get Vince for the skaven review

  • @lsid4747
    @lsid4747 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A lot of command point abilities are good, but they still cost command points, a limited resource. I will be curious if there are characters who grant additional command points or the use of command abilities with lowered cost like some characters in 40K.

    • @TheStormkeep
      @TheStormkeep  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There could be some special units that allow the use of Commands for free
      Maybe even a special Stormcast unit...

  • @faust5894
    @faust5894 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Considering the Command point economy this edition, just giving your opponent one for free EVERY round is a huge deal. I think you are too quick to dismiss how big of a deal this is especially with how strong command abilities now. Besides, I would much rather have an organic limiting factor to spam than something so inelegant as the rule of three.

    • @TheStormkeep
      @TheStormkeep  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It is a significant downside to bringing even one Aux unit, but if the benefits of spamming a good unit (or just skipping the hero tax) outweigh the extra CP you give your opponent, then it could quickly become a problem

    • @faust5894
      @faust5894 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheStormkeep honestly I haven’t seen any reason to be concerned at that even being a possibility. Everything that we’ve seen so far has been really balanced, and the extremely strong looking scrolls we have seen are all Unique so spamming isn’t even possible.

    • @TheStormkeep
      @TheStormkeep  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@faust5894 that's fair, it could end up being just fine
      Though GW does have a long history of making some units very spammable and annoying to play against, like Dire Wolves and Shield Annihilators in 3rd ed

  • @woofergranade2044
    @woofergranade2044 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    How does roar work on opponent’s turn? If the opponent get to use all their abilities first such as the fight twice for the DoK, does roar do anything?

    • @TheStormkeep
      @TheStormkeep  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The active player uses all their abilities, and then the opponent uses all theirs, and then you take turns fighting with units.
      Krondys' Soul-Shaking Roar only prevents an enemy from using Command Abilities, not all Abilities from being used.

    • @woofergranade2044
      @woofergranade2044 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheStormkeep right but there are combat abilities that also use command points like the DoK fight twice. Since the opponent gets to use it before the Roar, that means that the Roar can prevent it unless you use it on your turn when you have priority on activations.

    • @TheStormkeep
      @TheStormkeep  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@woofergranade2044 It will depend on the specific timing of the abilities, so yes it can change based on who the active player is. Had not considered that specific interaction with All-Out Slaughter!

  • @lsid4747
    @lsid4747 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Do you choose a battle tactic after you roll for priority? I can see choosing a crappy battle tactic you know you can't score anyway if you roll a double turn and decide to take it

    • @TheStormkeep
      @TheStormkeep  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Choosing a battle tactic happens at the Start of Your Turn, which is after the priority roll

  • @DJMexiMelt
    @DJMexiMelt 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As someone who abused Kroak’s Death Mask… bravery will be missed.

    • @TheStormkeep
      @TheStormkeep  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Im sure Seraphon have some other nonsense they can abuse instead :P

  • @CartoreAOS
    @CartoreAOS 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kinda surprised you kept mrigank on the show going into 4th ed.

    • @Mr_J1984
      @Mr_J1984 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why?

  • @piotrjeske4599
    @piotrjeske4599 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just want to know how l am suppose to play now and when GW is bringing back my dudes.

    • @TheStormkeep
      @TheStormkeep  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They're not coming back, at least not any time soon :(

  • @rotm4447
    @rotm4447 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    not being able to aoa in the shooting phase honestly wouldn't have surprised me in the nerf edition, remove everything fun edition, the once per game one unit 12" wholly within on a 3+ edition.

    • @TheStormkeep
      @TheStormkeep  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ugh so many 3+ rolls this edition. It will get tiresome very fast

    • @rotm4447
      @rotm4447 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheStormkeep the core rules are good but the indexes are like binguy put in a long weekend.

    • @TheStormkeep
      @TheStormkeep  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rotm4447 They gotta nerf everyone so they can get you hyped about buying the battletome that buffs it back up