Vampire Coast Immortal Empires Battle Guide | Total War Warhammer 3
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As I mention every time the Vampire Coast have the best theming in the game and that continues to their roster, You really feel like an undead pirate faction with the sheer amount of gunpowder and barnacle covered monsters you have at your disposal. They do come with a weird playstyle but weird doesn't mean bad and they can be extremely powerful if used correctly.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:56 Skillshare Sponsor
1:52 Lords
7:03 Heroes
9:23 Melee Infantry
11:42 Ranged Infantry
14:29 Monsters & Beasts
18:39 Missile Monsters & Beasts
20:52 Artillery & War Machines
21:43 Faction Unique Units
23:51 Regiments of Renown
25:03 Army Compositions
28:14 Outro
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Warning about Bloated Corpses (learned the hard way): they can be revived after a battle, but they are revived with less than 25% HP which means if you immediately go to fight another battle, they will explode the moment you finish deploying troops.
I haven't had that happen yet, but I haven't played too much. I will have to look for that. Nothing like getting your army blown up by yourself XD.
that's actually hilarious
Lol
So thats what happened thanks i could figure out why that happened and assumed it was a bug
That could be counted as a bug....
Hey man, as someone who's finally getting over the Total War learning curve, your videos are *incredibly* helpful for not only giving people an idea where to start, but also getting the preview of some of the units in action. Wouldn't enjoy the game nearly as much as I have without you man--thank you for the content!! :D
Playing as Noctilus provides THE most free form IE campaign in the game. Galleons almost never gets sieged and you get to choose how you want to play the game without being pushed in any particular direrction. Late game all they need is Promethean Gunnery Mobs, Necrofex and Rotting Leviathans with a few mortars, cannons and Bess.
Mortars suck right now since the nerf
As Noctulus i found it extremely fristrating to fight against highelves in earlygame on vh/vh. You have to travel to find your luck elsewhere.
You can do the same with Cylostra Direfin as well. The Twisted Glade isn't unique like the other 3 lords starting settlements. After I wipe out The Forgebound, I abandon Twisted Glade & do as I please.
Just be wary of taking over Caledor like the game guides you to, lest you find yourself swamped on all sides by angry elves for a hundred turns, fighting the same battles over and over.
@@Cipher_8 what did they nerf about the cannon?
I know there's a ton of guides out there but your info and editing is top notch, and it's really helpful for people returning after a long break like myself. Thank you!
Inject those Tiered Army Compositions straight into my veins. Love this type of content. Thank you! There's not a lot of new detailed guides for this game yet so these have been a gem of a find.
Thanks a lot for these guides! They help me a lot as all the mechanics are a bit overwhelming.
I JUST started a vampire coast campaign
This is perfect
Also, I think it's a sin to mention Aranessa as feeling weak, without covering the single fact that she can delete 95% of lords in the game, in late game. Her anti large Kraken weapon gives AOE anti large, one of the rarest powers in the game. Combined with the animation she does (much like why Scorps are so good), she can DELETE Tyrion on his mount. Anything bigger than her dies, and she has an ability to net people down to do this. It makes her, like the Deathmaster, particularly specialized in the same role, only still functional in late game.
Ive used these videos to help me research new factions and stats without learning the hard way through practice but these and the caimpain guides are amazing thank you man already have a hundred hours in this game no short thanks to your great guides making the game more approachable i will be recommending these to any new players so well made and done
Thank you so much! This is so useful for me as a very nooby player. The way you really break it down and give examples and suggestions is so awesome! I think I'll give the vampire coast another try now thanks to you!
You've got the best guides, dude, keep up the hard work! Will you eventually be making IE guides for the new factions as well, since so many of them have radically different starting points from the normal campaign? Just wondering, since you've already done battle guides for them, and the game has blown up since IE came out.
Agreed
Best guide to play terribily and lose on easy/easy maybe...these suck so bad, and the battles he fights are just so fuckign bad
@@leom8029 Someone sounds salty.
@@leom8029 Someone lost their entire army 💀
Can you do more battle guides for more factions? Your vids are really good!
love a Tier III Necrofex Colossi! mostly kidding, thanks for the great helpful constant content
What I found to be an effective formation when fighting as the Coast is to have the melee unit formation be tall instead of wide. This leaves lots of space for gunners to shoot through and they can still hold a front line as the enemies attack what's closest.
Awesome guide
this saved me as I start a playthrough as vampire coast
Very useful. Thank you.
20:20 brother that was such a flash bang to hear at 3 am as I’m falling asleep
Good video
Left out the Maneaters and Maneater pistols for Aranessa.
16:10 jc, it's actually a giant squid inside a bloated corpse.
Just hate how well AI units can dodge Queen Bess now, I fought several battles where she only made like one or two hits because the moment she fired the target was already juking out of the way. It was super frustrating to watch.
A really great way to "juke" the AI with Bess is to have a base mortars unit firing in tandem with her. With the mortars unit, actually target the unit you want to attack, and with Queen Bess use the Alt-Click targeting to have her fire on where you want her volleys to go, predicting where your target will move to avoid mortar fire. The AI runs from the targeted fire of the mortars, and they will likely try to not avoid Bess as much. Works especially great in walled sieges.
If you want to get even more micro-intensive with her, her fire sound is *very* noticeable and has slow rhythm. Change her alt-click target area with every volley she launches to keep the AI "guessing".
In field battles, just use Alt-click with her to target clumped frontline troops
Luthor is a stupidly powerful duelist due to his mount, ranged attack and massive amounts of stats His questitem gives !!! 50% !!! reduced raise dead costs - with all the other bonuses you end up with a roughly 85% reduction allowing you to raise entire armies for cheap. Gunnery whights are actually insane powerful duelists that masacre monsters and lords/heroes - THEY FIRE IN MELEE so put them on a crab and watch them murder stuff in melee where everyone else brought a knife to a gunfight.
The Vampire Coast are as close to perfect as they can be, imo. One of the best and most fun factions.
In my opinon when playing gainst the High Elves the Vampire Coast can really end up struggling alot in MP. Especially if your opponent just spams missile cavalry and starts kiting. Other than that they have great ranged units but could use a little buff on their melee stats considering that you would have these units firing volleys at the front but at the same time making them vulnerable to really good long ranged missile and melee units.
So the deck droppers are just never used in any of the tiers?
I must disagree with your compositions. Melee infantry are essential against large and varied armies, ambushes, sieges, and other threats. Don't know what army compositions the AI throws at you, but in my campaigns I've always faced massive numbers of flanking cavalry and reams of infantry charging the front. You try and face off against any mid to late game Lizardman army with the setup you've shown and I can't see how you aren't going to be losing nearly half your army per battle. And then of course there comes the point at which you are inevitably outnumbered, in which case a comp like this is disastrous.
At least take some polearm deckhands to supplement your monstrous units, or even Depthguard. The all ranged comp with monster guards is fine for the low tier single opponent armies, as you can focus many threats down before they reach your lines. But once you start facing more numerous high tier units it will struggle. Not to mention the effectiveness of magic on your slow moving and neatly stacked up gun lines.
Just my opinion though.
i def see what you’re saying but also gotta think if you get heroes or use like your lord or necro to kinda blob up their infantry all your gunners will just wipe them out so fast kinda same strat with dwarves(3-4 heroes rest quarrelers)
The expanded Sartosa mod is basically mandatory for Aranessa
I thought these guys were terrible but once I started changing my Play style these guys are so deadly, I dont even use a proper Melee front line just cheap ranged and most get killed before they even get to my good units
How to walled settlement battles? So frustrating to play them - guess it’s worth to wait for a decent auto resolve?
gained a sub
Personally I take one unit of depth guard to surround noctilus to keep him from getting swarmed but otherwise they're kinda not worth taking despite how AWESOME THEY LOOM
When you talk about the early, mid and late game comps you don’t mention the legendary lords…do you just not include them in any armies? Sorry for daft question but I’m new to the game :)
The early mid and late game armies he provides are for generic lords. The LL's provide bonuses to certain units, and going over all of them would be tedious as by the late game their unit choices are almost all the same.
Early game, they will all use deckhands and gunnery mobs except for Aranessa, who will mske use of Sartosan units.
Mid game, they'll all be focusing on gunpowder units, though Cylostra will focus more on Syreens and Mournguls.
Late game you'll either go for a combined gun line (i personally go for 6 deck gunners, 3 carronades and 4 Mortars with 2 gunnery wights and the rest as casters of vampires and deeps for the summons), or a monster stack (rotting leviathans, necrofex colossi or Death Shriek Terrorgheists with support from spellcasters and/or other heroes). Though maybe swap some of the casters out for more wights as needs require.
Hell, I've even found a Depth Guard ball works surprisingly well against quite a few factions, with Vanhel's Dance Macabre boosting their attack to insane levels.
But no matter what, have a vampires caster to heal your troops. Whether it's the admiral or a captain isn't really important.
Kinda weird you didn't mention Extra Powder.
2:44 how has nobody noticed this yet
“the one mount…. the rotting promethian”
"The best themeing in the game"
Aranessa is leading undead.
When you play as high elves these guys are an absolute nightmare if they get a foot hold on the west coast. I watched them totally wipe out like 5 cities before i could mobalise a decently matched army to save my allies
you forgot the damned grail knight
Wish the giant crabs were better and "bigger" models dont seem gargantuan enough.
24:85 well, the Queen has fallen from grace compare to certain faction's artillery that totally isn't busted at all.
10:53 But 5 bonus vs inf isn't that "high" :)
Only 2 Necro Koloss? Im dissapointed! :O^^
where are the ogres with pistols?
Maneaters are an Ogre Kingdoms unit, so he's probably covered them in his OK video
How do I deal with High Elf archers in the early game?
High elves hard counter early game coast, as the HElves basic infantry has a good shield and charge defense, and the Coast doesn't get good area damage and spells until at least the mid-game. I'd recommend steering clear of Ulthuan early on, but return later when you have your artillery to crush them.
@@sev1120 Yeah that matches my experience. Mortars are a decent counter for archers but they are too slow.
WHAT DO WE BURN WITH WITCHES?!
MORE ELVES!!🤪🤪🤪
Mortars, scurvy dogs, bats/droppers (ranged ones can go into melee to tie up archers in a pinch), ogre merc cavalry.
Early game expect to have to maneuver around a lot to get the enemy in an ideal position.
@@sev1120 really, in my experience the elves are shredded by bullets easily. I have never had an issue with them and ulthuan is easier to defend late than a clump of settlements on the mainland
Nah man, you don't keep the Bloated Corpse away from your own troops. What you do is you take a basic bitch Deckhands unit, ram them into nasty enemy elite infantry and then when they're busy dealing with the tarpit you run in the big boy. Putting on your best supervillain cackle while doing this is optional, but highly recommended. 🤪
See, those armies are good for field battles, but good luck trying to break through a siege with an army of mostly squishy ranged units.
you left off one "pro". While you play you will have the Joyce need to talk like a pirate.
They just dont work for me. Guns wont fire etc
Gotta pay attention to line of fire, even small hills can stop them from drawing sight, so they demand you deploy based on the gunline more than the frontlint. Also they fire rather slowly, don't try to track fast units as they will slowly spin in circles trying to track and never actually shooting. Wherever possible use the Chevrons formation, it's their bread and butter
so you're trading 120 models of armor piercing damage with gunnery mob handgunners for 24 models deck gunners with slightly more range? It doesn't make sense to me
"Slightly"
Handgunners like 140 range deck gunners 240? Plus double ap values and sheild breaker. Lol
Pass the grass my dude must be good.
The deckgunners damage output is much better, especially late game. Because of range, armour piercing and firerate
I like your content but as a non-English speaker sometimes I tend to struggle understanding what you're saying ... Slowing your speech speed or adding subtittles under your videos would be appreciated ! Anyway, thanks for your work 👍
You can just put the playback speed to 0.75, same effect
The so called priate in this game can’t do any sea battle and can only fight on land, they even don’t owe any vessel or fleets, just a small ship to move on map
Yeah, as far as I know Games Workshop won't allow them to have ship battles: it's a separate part of the IP, which is already licensed out for another game Man of War.
The small ship you see in game is just the flag ship of a fleet, just like seeing your one guy on the campaign map instead of the full army
As someone who loves both the Vampire Coast and Naval warfare in general I think it's probably for the best. I'd love to see them implement naval battles but it would take a LOT of fine tuning to get it right.
ship battles in total war games are infamously terrible, so this isn't a bad thing
@@miniloon577 Those ship battles are done by the same team that does the entirety of the rest of the game. Warhammer has the benefit of having what, three different teams working on it and its different aspects? They could certainly put one of them to focus entirely on naval battles as an update and get something good out of it.
"Lots of ranged firepower."
Skaven. Chaos Dwarves. Sisters of Averlorn. Kislev. Empi-
They have the worst ranged firepower of the ranged firepower factions. Outside of a Necroflex doomstack. One unit does not make them a good ranged faction. Thank you CA with nerfing them into the shithole they now are in.
Those are t4~5 units. Meanwhile, vampire coast's t2 units (bomber zombies) alr have stupidly strong firepower. And it keeps getting better up to necrofex and queen bess. Gunnery wight and lore of the deep will amplify the strength even further.
@@Centrioless I don't care what a t4 or t5 unit is. The fact of the matter is, Skaven Weapon teams are overpowered beyond belief. This isn't a controversial point. And other factions out range the ranged faction. It used to be, on release, that Vamp Coast could legitimately run their ranked units and do fine. Now they can't, outside of a single spam. Queen Bess doesn't even remotely count when it's a single unit for a single army. It is *not fun* to play.
@@JJokerMoreau and i dont give a sht abt your opinion if you cant even understand how cost effective vampire coast units are
@@Centrioless No one cares about cost effectiveness when they played far better on release than now, with references to the changes being they were too strong at ranged... and then the company releases a series of busted ranged units like Skaven, which are also extremely cost effective.
My dude. The PIRATE faction is outgunned in Campaign. F off.
to be fair for aranessa, when she gets her crap mount, she gets pretty tanky with all of the armor it brings. plus, if you get banners that boosts armor or defense for her, she can be a nightmare to kill.