Vampire Counts Immortal Empires Battle Guide | Total War Warhammer 3
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- The vampire counts have an excellently themed roster with lots of powerful magical lords, plenty of spooky monsters and a good helping of spooky scary skeletons. Alongside being on brand with their theming it's also pretty powerful when used for their rush playstyle and can mow down even the toughest of enemies. And of course it wouldn't be the vampire counts if there wasn't a multitude of ways to stitch your units back together and bring them back from the dead with magic and auras whilst in battle.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:01 Lords
9:06 Heroes
12:24 Melee Infantry
16:45 Ranged Infantry
18:09 Cavalry
20:48 Monsters & Beasts
25:04 War Machines
28:14 Regiments of Renown
28:56 Army Comps
31:26 Outro
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Watching that wind of death during the Mannfred spotlight pass through those basic swordsmen without seemingly killing any of them breaks my heart.
yup thats really pathetic. still its probably the non overcast version as i heard the overcast version does like triple damage...but the damage increase is all non AP so its not really useful to overcast vs heavy armor. only the base damage is AP.
Hope for mods to make it back…
Vc is shit now and also not lore wise
@@JankyDice96 VC are literally one of the strongest factions right now.
@@TheAmazingKoalaDolphin agree 100%. Ghorst's unkillable zombies, massive regeneration abilities and finally some melee prowess in a melee-only faction make for a super strong combination.
@@JankyDice96 clueless
Everyone always sleeps on wight kings. They have super high melee defense and are uber tanky. You just need disciplined lords to stack them up to absurd levels.
They’re the best heroes for VC in terms of quality but it’s the worst cuz u can’t spam them easly unlike necromancers and vampires (Isabella only)
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they are their best focused fighter heroes, but they lack AP or anti large. still useful in crowds of chaff inf. they are also reasonably easy to get.
banshees on the other hand are INSANELY hard to get more of, as u can get like 1 at the first T4 and then another one for every T5. they are super useful in campaign with mobility buffs, assasinations and single entity killing power with AP too.
They can even destroy walls as an action.
@@cobrazax a level 40 wight king can wipe out entire units with all its abilities activated but u can’t spam them easy cuz u need a capital to create the building up to tier 3
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U need T4 to get more of them, but u can get your first at tier 2. Yes it has nice damage abilities. I use it ideally to hunt down squishy non mounted heroes and lords, or to engage the inf frontline. With heavy AP items it can be even useful vs high armor targets.
Still, i prefer to have all the other heroes and not use the wight king when at late game. So many good choices.
Its army boost isnt really useful. A bit extra xp is useless when u got 5 times already from vlad passive and bloodlines. Especially when compared to replenishment, mobility and item drops bonuses.
Public order isnt a problem usually, and attacking armies and garrisons is rarely critical. Might be useful to support tough fights but nothing more. I value other units and heroes more.
A vampire got great magic support, flying mount, more melee attack, but no damage abilities, no shield, no anti inf, less melee defense. Still much more useful imo.
I usually run double wight kings for my more mage lords
Saying vlad dosent have a mount is completely ignoring isabela von Carstein but ok
commenting so this become top comment
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Good guide, my only critique is that Pit of Shades now outclasses Pendulum by an unbelievable amount. You definitely want that as the key spell on your Shadow casters
noticed that too lately..
really? what did they change?
i know that units dont take any damage when they are knocked down...and that spell does knock them down...so im not sure.
Isabella is all about hero support with her unlimited Blood Chalice of Bathori. The biggest single target heal in the game. Coupled with reduced upkeep for some heroes. Very strong
Playing with Ghorst right now and his frontline simply does not die. Even in sieges, I just rush the gate, knock ay the door until is down and fight at the gate for 20 minutes without losing any unit. After we invade we just keep pushing. The skeli warriors, and other infantry simply stay fighting forever.
So glad i found your channel, i have been looking for exactly this kind of video. I will run a Blood Dragon focused Vampire War version 2 with Vlad the Chad at the helm for IE :)
The drop from tier 4 and 5 to tier 3 is MASSIVE for diverse Counts armies. Unit access was a major problem in 2, and being able to field entire ghost armies at t3 is pretty cool.
These videos are outstanding for new players. Well done👍
This is the 2nd video that I watched that you did an example of early, mid and late game armies. I appreciate you giving these examples so much you have no idea. I prefer this formula of video compared to your previous WH2 videos with the example battle of only end game units. There, I would struggle with how fast you play, even while pausing your videos. Worse, I would be at a loss to which units to use until I even unlocked the end game units. I wish i could say I'm new to the warhammer series, but unfortunately I'm not. When I play, I absolutely struggle to understand the many intricacies of the game. i have to constantly keep the battles paused so I can think of what to do next and I almost never know what units to use throughout the game. The examples you gave helped a dumbass like me, thank you for that. I will subscribe to you for more of these types of videos. Thx again boyo.
great video, will be handy for my first campaign in immortal empires
Great Video! Quality Content!!!
Good video as always ! Thx for it even if my first immortal campaign will be the greenskin grimgor ! But i will definitively play the counts !
I’m waiting for chaos dwarves before playing grimgor.
Excellent guide!
Nice videos, thanks for all the info! I've been looking for this type of information for my new campaign - i played ~200h of Dwarves since i totally love Dwarves... but i got bogged down and bored so i wanted to try something different.
I am still not sure about the Vampires, but they look interesting and their factions mechanics are less punishing than the grudges system of the Dwarves.
I'll have a hard time adapting to a completely different play style than my usual frontline-massive ranged-arty cover.
Very useful video, thanks
it's nice of you to update the factions
Hi Colonel Damneders! I’m a big fan and really enjoy this content and your channel, I was wondering if you’d do a review of the latest updates to unit mass mechanics for monsters especially the dragons in Warhammer 3 as compared to Warhammer 2 👌 many thanks and keep up the great content it’s such fun watching and learning 👍
I disagree on a few points.
1. The Black Coach being too micro intensive, given how the counts work very well defensively, you can set up your line and not have a ton of micro to do for the majority of your army. Don't know if it's gonna be a good chariot, but having a single fast unit to micro doesn't strike me as that bad.
2. On campaign you have such an easy time getting necromancer heroes (unless they changed the hero cap from growth buildings) that getting one on a balefire cart and another on an unholy lodestone cart shouldn't be a problem, so you can just stack the buffs.
black coach should be used with support. For example with bats and any cav
Mourns are excellent flankers that will annihilate backlines and can seriously wreck even elite units if you charge em into the backside of said unit. Horros are the anvil, mourns are the bazooka.
Colonel, sir, please when you do the battle guide for the Warriors of Chaos, can you also show us the units that conform "the small contingent" being added to the Daemon Prince roster
Question: Is vlads healing cap higher or the whole armys when isabella and vlad are in one army?
Insta subbed after this video.
Will there be a wood elf one in the future ?
Keep up the amazing work, and thank you.
I plan to go through everyone and you can vote on who's next on the Discord!
Thanks for the Video!
Pls make an indepth Manfred campaign Guide or lets play. Would be so great 😃
The reliquary corruption only works when in melee, so you do want Ghorst in melee to get his full potential, but you don't want him fighting anything too dangerous
Embargo lifted yeah!
I would love to start a VC campaign in Bretonia regions as the Red Duke and play as a more Sword&Sorcery style vilain.
I was wondering how would be defending a fortification with vampire counts since they dont have range so what recommendations are to defend a fortification with the vampire counts
I think you might be underestimating a bit the power of Mournguls and more generally the power of units with Stalk. They are amazing in siege and settlement battles as you can send them to take position on a point and take/hold it before the AI realizes what's going on. They synergize very well with the rest of the VC roster for that purpose, especially fast cav like Hexwraiths or flying units. Depending on how and how fast the AI reacts, just send some of your flying units/heroes/lord or even Hexwraith/dogs to support the initial stalking squad and you can deprive the defending army of some pesky buffs, destroy defensive structures and overall win siege battles way more easily and way less tediously.
Finally your take on Blood Knights might be a bit outdated and that pains me to say it. They're very expensive but don't really perform well for their cost anymore, they're getting pretty overwhelmed by a lot of the new cavalry out there (IIRC there's a video by A Rubber Duck of War out there where you can watch them get simply slaughtered by skullcrushers of khorne) :'(. This is painful for me not only because I love the VC and Blood Knights but also because if Blood Knights aren't viable anymore that leaves the VC with very few options for anti-large counters. I think CA should consider buffing them or maybe reduce their cost/upkeep or maybe finally give us a Grave Guard w/ halberds variant to support them.
Lol 1:55 "This Is SYLVANIA!"
Is the von Carstein RIng still the same?
I’m gonna need an empire guide to know how to best fight the vamps. Struggling right now.
You disappeared from my feed until today. Hello, again.
What's the title of the background soundtrack?
Very interested for the wraiths getting barrier in the late game 🤔 Stil not sure what lord to play first.
Could you possibly reach out to CA, that they implement a reskill option for confederated lords? Such bad fealing if the ai messed legendary lords and heros up.
Vlad and Isabella in one army with buffs from both fell bat's gonna be nightmares 👻
u could just ude mods
there is already one out there where u can reskill once with every lord and hero
@@zakzerak7191 true, but I think something like that should be in the main game 👀
@@zakzerak7191
they should let us reskill one skill point every turn for every character. this is a very slow and reasonable amount for fixing mistakes, AI bad skilling, reskilling from early game skills to late game skills, or to switch to different unit boosting skills.
You forgot to say the crypt ghouls has stalk
yes the RoR ones do and its great for their role.
I keep feeling that Heinrich Kemmler & the Necromancers should be their own faction, Necromancers/Litches.
It feels as if they are just gaffer taped into the Vampire faction.
I can onlx aplode games work shops decision to not make chaos, a faction that is very hell like (and we often asosiate hell with the undead also), also tied to the undead instead make the undead a seperate faction in warhammer, makes the villains more varied and interesting
Started the two days ago and the vampires always made a cool impression on me therefore I started playing them, but so far I was way too passive as I found my armies too slow to deal with mass ranged enemies as they would chew my army up before I could get close to them.
Even shielded units?
Cairn wraiths nearly impossible to kill without magical attacks...Was false before, and now.with ethereal resistance passing from 75% to 50%, despite a health buff, it's easier than ever.
They’re actually pretty sad now. They often fail against the very units they’re supposed to be strong against.
Such a tease
My tip:
1. Play Caravan of the blue roses
2. Make zombie doomstacks
3. Conquer the world
First comment 💯💯💯 favourite faction can't wait to play immortal empires
I don't understand why they don't just make Krell a legendary hero. Kemmler needs all the help he can get, facing off against so many foes immediately.
Probably because, then he could be taken out of his Army. Which Kemmler can't afford.
Because lore.
Honestly, I don't understand why I can't recruit Godzilla.
@@filthyshoggoth No, it's not "because of the lore". In lore Krell actually parts ways with Kemmler and acts as Nagash's problem solver.
@@lathrael7152yes nagash’s not vampire counts
@@meyr1992 Very debatable.
I play Warhammer 1 only, but a good Vampire strategy is "spam them with zombies and skeletons, while surround them with Vargheists and Black Knights". Also use a Terrorgheist and a Vampire Lord with Dragon for extra maneuverability. That would be 1 Lord, 1 Terrorgheist, 4 zombies, 4 skeletons, 6 Knights, 4 Vargheists
No range?? In WH3 we are able to hire/use other factions units right??
If you do the whole military alliance and build an outpost you can buy your buddies units. Or if you have a buddy your playing with you can build an outpost right away with them. I was playing Skarbrand and bought some dwarven quarrelers from my friend and it was fun seeing the dwarfs with red livery =)
How the hell does your game look so good
wait, there is no regular* Vampire lord, it' means you should have bloodline lords and necromancer only for regular?
There is a generic vampire lord
I play soul blight gravelords on the table top, when I go with the counts it feels like I never left the game store😂
Seeing these winds of death not kill a single dude hurts my eyes.
yup thats really pathetic. still its probably the non overcast version as i heard the overcast version does like triple damage...but the damage increase is all non AP so its not really useful to overcast vs heavy armor. only the base damage is AP.
I gotta say one thing, vampire counts are looking sexier than ever
Well, Vampire Counts got buffed in Warhammer 3, or you don't think that it will make any difference? Because the faction review just the same as for Warhammer 2.
Nah skeletons cost some coin now.
It’s a real shame Krell isn’t a legendary lord, he could be a lord that buffs mainly skeleton units but doesn’t like Zombies, crypt horrors, or crypt ghouls.
Here an actual army composition: 19 vampires or 17 vargulfs+2 necromancers or 17 terrorgheists+2 necromancers
Yep the sooner you stack vampires the earlier youll paint the map
Heinrich is the least vampire looking vampire. He looks like he could be a teacher at Hogwarts
Theres only about 5 vampire legendary lords and 4 true vampire factions
At Summerslam?
there's a little bit of blood
I love all the content... and hate it at the same time 🤣 IE release can't come soon enough
I _do_ love spooky scary skeletons. 🤔
That send shivers down your spine
tomb guard
FYI to anyone I think Balefire is bugged at the moment.
👍💪🔥
Do vamps still have the tech to make skeletons free upkeep?
They do not 😞🔫
@@ColonelDamneders That fucking sucks lol. I was going to play them first but now I think I'll play Chaos instead. Great video, I'm looking forward to your ones on Lizardmen and The Empire
@@seneris Try Ghorst
@@akaroth7542 ok
@@akaroth7542 damn, you were right, he went from one of the worst campaigns to one of the most fun lol
I always hate Vlad when he rushes early in the Campaign as Empire. Sometimes he gets rly hard to stop cause of his artifacts and stuff when he is around lvl 30 at round 20 or so :D
Will every faction get a video ?
Eventually. Aiming to do one every week so should be done in about 20 more weeks 0.0
I noticed a problem at 1:00...
You seem to be playing with a Jada Pinkett-Smith mod.
That Wind of Death hits about as hard as Will, too.
grave guard with great weapons get a significant boost to their anti infantry stat, making their attack significantly stronger vs inf.
remember that the mortis engine HAS to be in melee to enable its damage aura. also it doesnt imrpove the stats of nearby troops like the corpse cart does...maybe they should add that too.
Vlad might be the "best" Lord to a lot fo people but i found his starting zone very difficult. The dwarves armor can be a real issue early on and no matter which direction you move into you're gonna have 3 armys against you at once since they're all friendly with eachother. and being in the center of the map makes the mid game really hard since you're always gonna have Heros causing you problems.
You could try taking on the factions you don’t have nonagression pacts with. I stopped after I discovered a bug with my legendary hero (i was playing as isabella so idk if vlad has the same one).
@Samaugsch I had a non aggression with the orchestra I believe but when I went up the mountain to fight the dwarves the orc got unhappy. Didn't declare war but I lost favor with them. Luckily beast men came out of nowhere and killed the dwarves for me and left lol
@@andrewpaul8732 an orc got angry with you for fighting dwarves? 🤔
Yo! Those battle comps are pretty inefficient in campaign when playing legendary difficult and very hard.
Tell us whats wrong. Thanks.
Lizardmen next pls!!!!
Skaven next but you can vote by joining the discord on who's next
Chad Von Carstein
03:47 - Is it true, that Isabella has only access to the lore of the vampires?
In the last video about the Vampire Counts you showed her having access to the a mixed lore of vampires and shadows: th-cam.com/video/Znld1pzYOZc/w-d-xo.html
Also: Great video! Thank you! =)
"Vampire Counts Immortal Empires Battle Guide" Should be just a detailed uses of lores and "just take cheap skellie boys and a few fel bats to hunt those rout." If you are expecting your units to do any heavy lifting as VC you are gonna have a bad time.
Also Vargheist does not do EVERY job of fel bat better. Because Vargheists have a buggy attack cycle when chasing; run, maybe attack the rearmost person than try to take off and land again, losing all contact in process, fellbats will constantly gnaving arses of those enemies all the way to edge of the map. There are the chasers you should take especially with AP upgrade.
An entire army roster based around early game, and still loses against anything but empire.
Colonel Damneders - Warns that crossbows are going to friendly fire your units in field battles. In the mean time battles is AI in campaign are 90 % settlement sieges...
One of the sad parts of the VC is that Heinrich has one of the best melee weapons in the game...the Tomb Blade. But as you said, he's not a melee fighter so the only time he gets to USE the weapon is if he gets jumped by the enemy.
which is why its best to use him like a mortis engine. fight alongside your frontline which will protect him from most damage, while it activates all the strong passive abilities.
got a problem with melee combat? someone is trying to assassinate u? call in krell :D
Why not use bats vs dogs? They seem better to me. Point, click, archer unit deleted.
Bro the wind of death looking weak as fuck
Might be the non-overcasted version?
No, nerfed to the ground.
I like your work but dang I wish you weren't talking so fast. o-O
Hey, anyone else remember the SKELETON WARRIORS TV show from the early 90's (I think?) If that's new to you, check out the intro song. It's meme.
play helman ghorst
get zombies
blob up
afk
The army is too weak actually, all infantry except the wraiths are too wimpy & skeletons are not free. There should be more blood knight units & monster variety. I’ll be disappointed if they don’t make a vampire dlc.
I never play this faction because it give me nightmare😂
It's been years, and over 40k subscribers. Please stop calling it mealy.... It's melee. Mell-ay
Hate to be that guy but melee is pronounced 'meh-ley'. Love the video though!
Meanwhile, I went back to wh2... Its so bad compared to 3..
How the fuck does a zombie lose hope?
Their leadership is called 'Bindin' which means how well the magic holding them together is holding up. Zombies are the most basic of undead units so are held together with very weak magic that can be undone very easily
Good work, great content... but why do are you in such a hurry to speak/tell/read the texts? Remember to breathe and the commas and full stops once in a while, please... kind reagards from Denmark + keep up the good work.
Their nerfed, useless in immortal empires.
All ethereal units…are a joke…empire swordsman…can easily destroy them…
How unloreful…hahaha…
wnak channel
They're boring. They're a melee faction, except... Except 100% melee. No joke, something no other race actually is. Yet without any of the fun bells and whistles of a melee faction. Their monsters are dated, the most powerful unit in the game (their dragon) a bygone of Warhammer 1, replaced by the multitudes of way better dragons from multiple other factions. The Vargheists are a thing of the past, and their vargwulf, while cool, is competed against by many, MANY other monster factions. Worse of all, they used to be one of the most interesting factions because of their ability to siege quickly (monsters, flying, Vlad), something that every race now has. Oh, and no artillery because F the counts.
Yes, their two spells are gr- no, they're shit. Overpriced garbage that's only useful on certain legendary lords. They're not a "magic" faction. Chaos Dwarves, Ikit Claw, Wurzag, Morathi, Sisters of- You get the pictures. THOSE are magic factions. Vamps are a choice between two overpriced spells they can cast once in a blue moon.
They were my favorite faction, now left in the dust and completely outdone and outshone by two fucking necromancers of all things. It's VAMPIRE counts, not NECROMANCER CUNTS.
Slaanesh is also 100% melee
@@Samagachi Except good. As is Khorne. As is Warriors of Chaos. Vampires don't feel good, and barely have a "unique mechanic" to speak of.
@@JJokerMoreau i would argue that vampire units are more affordable. It doesn’t matter if the other two factions have stronger units if you don’t have the funds to keep them around or recruit them
@@Samagachi I wrote down a lot of my thoughts on the matter. You can choose to ignore it. My point is, you didn't play Vampire Counts because they're "affordable". You played them because they were an amazing monster race with the strongest beasts in the game (and a dragon!). Plus ridiculously powerful legendary heroes and hero units. All of which no longer applies. It's Warhammer 3, they've gotten a single real update since WH1. Two, if you count adding mornghouls to them.
Agree , vamp counts is weak , they need unbreakable & perfect vigor mods 😂 i use those mods in wh1 & 2@@JJokerMoreau
god are you bad at this game
I wish you didn't talk so fast. It's very stressful to listen to.
We have unbreakable mod for undead , tireless for undead daemon contruct mod 😊