don't commit a crime, can't find a job cause my school system didn't teach me anything, you live in a low income neighborhood wear they are closing schools. single parent home so the mom has to work 2 jobs which means she isn't home to take care of the kids. generational welfare which keeps you trapped. we still haven't addressed the problem.
2:30 What are these people supposed to do? Hmmm, I dunno, maybe...don't commit a felony? Don't use or sell illegal narcotics or kill somebody? Of course they aren't being hired or allowed in public housing. Nobody wants to be a coworker or a neighbor to a murderer/rapist/druggie. It is not conducive to their continued good health.
+Kenny Hastings I agree. I get where she's coming from, I do, however, I disagree with her. These people chose to commit their crimes. They must have chosen to. The law protects those forced into committing crimes. Obviously there are consequences to crimes and while I do think some of them are rather harsh and should possibly be reconsidered on a case by case basis (e.g. food stamps), generally I agree with the laws put in place. It has nothing to do with color and everything to do with safety in my mind. Unfortunately, most inmates are not rehabilitated while in prison and quite a few return to prison, not because they have no where to go but, because crime is the life they know. I want that person as far as possible from me. I, in no way, want to be connected or involved with that person's activities. That being said, the inmates who DO turn things around while they're in prison should have more help. Like I said, certain things should be handled on a case by case basis. We just don't have the man power and money for that. They could commit theft or robbery while waiting for a hearing or for benefits to kick in because they need to eat and they should be able to eat. Anyway, sorry to go off on a little rant in my reply to your comment. I hope you have a good day!
+Kenny Hastings What she does not go into here, but does in other talks on this fine website as well as in her book, is how the things that are labeled "felonies," and the way those things are policed, prosecuted, and sentenced, are entirely different for people of color than they are for others in this country. If you are a black male in a poor neighborhood and you make it to adulthood without a rap sheet, you have in fact beat the odds. In fact, you have better odds of being incarcerated than graduating from college. That is why the denial of citizenship post-conviction is so important.
Understand that what she in essence speaking about is the root causes of what we see around us. All the drugs and guns tend to mysteriously end up in our neighborhoods, Our chlideren are no different from the Columbine kids, You give kids guns they will play deadly games. You combine the dispair, poverty, and the promotion of negative ideas, and examples through music industry moguels who, I add, are making millions on the same dispair and suffering, and you have what M A is pointing out!
If you can't follow the laws then you shouldn't elect people to make the laws. Discrimination on the basis of your criminal history? First, it's stretching the term 'discrimination.' It's not like racial discrimination (which we're very familiar). It's 'discrimination' based on a choice to commit a crime. Would you want a person convicted of fraud to be your banker? A sex offender to be a teacher? a cop convicted of a violent crime? Of course not. Felons are not victims. Felons have created victims. If the employer agrees with you then wouldn't they hire them anyway? Yes, but they don't. Unless we can pay felons less then they wont get hired. That's the solution--abolish the minimum wage. I don't see how this makes sense: 1 job opening. 2 equal candidates. 1 is a felon. 1 is not a felon. Why the eff would hire the felon? He commits the same crime then you are sued because you knew he did that kind of stuff. For example, If I worked at Wendy's and the employer hires someone convicted of multiple sexual assaults. I get sexually assaulted. I sue the employer because the employer should had warned. This lady is ridiculous despite her fantastic resume and alma mater. Unfortunately, that sterling education has been filtered through the belief that people aren't responsible for their own actions. I'm blown away by two things: 1) your resume 2) and you believe what your saying. Garnished wages to pay court cost? That stuff isn't free. The felon committed the crime but the taxpayer is stuck with the whole bill? Free housing/food/health care for x number of years wasn't enough? People usually have to work really hard to provide those things for themselves. No free food for drug felons? Let's be serious. I pay for my own food and I am not a felon. Free food is a gift; not a right. Jury service? Wouldn't you think a felon would be a little biased? Also, negative experience with law enforcement only disqualifies you with case related to police misbehavior. The juror would also have to say it wouldn't make him biased. I would strike every felon if I was a prosecutor. You don't like the look or stigma? I'm sure the victim of the felony didn't like to be murdered/rape/stolen from/assaulted. All the things she said should be grouped under 'Don't commit felonies.' These are deterrents. On the other hand, they keep people safe. They warn people, "Yo, back in 1993 this guy robbed a liquor store'
Violence is not the main thing black men learn in prison. They learn to survive. Malcolm X, went into prison, and came out a man. Although Malcolm was exceptional in many ways, that transformation still takes place. It is not rare, which is why it is not publicized. Had it been, funding would decrease.
I'm not following the point you are making. Are you saying getting a felony conviction, and losing many if not all your legal rights and privileges, is a great way to learn how to survive? Malcolm ( who was by far from average and went out of his way to "self" educate himself) is an exception to the rule.
What happened to all your black leaders like Farrakhan Malcolm Reverend Jesse Jackson all these old so-called black leaders what they doing for blacks nothing
Jesse Jackson like Barrack Obama were white appointed black leaders. And in a system governed by the world-wide religion and practice of white supremacy only the creation of individual "self leaders" will be able to break the evil curse.
The continuation of laws, policies, and customs which make it easier to incarcerate or murder certain individuals. And harder for certain individuals to survive on the outside of the prison system. All which stems from the fact slavery and the original Jim Crow system has never been, and isn't intended to be addressed.
Nobody is forced to commit a crime. If you have a criminal history and you are a f...ing felon, don't complain if society it's hard on you. Social discipline, strong family values, self respect. Those are the keys of a productive life. Color of the skin is irrelevant. Stop playing the victim.
Michelle...if people of color are criminalized so much, then why aren't you a felon? Is it because you have a mind of your own, much like everyone else? Why can't you see others in the same way you see yourself. You are black, yet not a felon...so why can't other black people follow suit? While it sucks that felons are denied opportunites, I also feel like, if they wanted a fair life, perhaps they should not have commited any crimes.
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don't commit a crime, can't find a job cause my school system didn't teach me anything, you live in a low income neighborhood wear they are closing schools. single parent home so the mom has to work 2 jobs which means she isn't home to take care of the kids. generational welfare which keeps you trapped. we still haven't addressed the problem.
Sad thing is that this comment was posted 5 years ago and its still completely relevent.
@@icerose8411 they shouldn't pretend to understand this tho, it makes me angry
@Phineas M-L true, and I'm curious, who do you mean by "they?" 💜
Can I please get a transcript for this discussion?
2:30 What are these people supposed to do? Hmmm, I dunno, maybe...don't commit a felony? Don't use or sell illegal narcotics or kill somebody? Of course they aren't being hired or allowed in public housing. Nobody wants to be a coworker or a neighbor to a murderer/rapist/druggie. It is not conducive to their continued good health.
+Kenny Hastings I agree. I get where she's coming from, I do, however, I disagree with her. These people chose to commit their crimes. They must have chosen to. The law protects those forced into committing crimes. Obviously there are consequences to crimes and while I do think some of them are rather harsh and should possibly be reconsidered on a case by case basis (e.g. food stamps), generally I agree with the laws put in place. It has nothing to do with color and everything to do with safety in my mind. Unfortunately, most inmates are not rehabilitated while in prison and quite a few return to prison, not because they have no where to go but, because crime is the life they know. I want that person as far as possible from me. I, in no way, want to be connected or involved with that person's activities. That being said, the inmates who DO turn things around while they're in prison should have more help. Like I said, certain things should be handled on a case by case basis. We just don't have the man power and money for that. They could commit theft or robbery while waiting for a hearing or for benefits to kick in because they need to eat and they should be able to eat.
Anyway, sorry to go off on a little rant in my reply to your comment. I hope you have a good day!
+Kenny Hastings What she does not go into here, but does in other talks on this fine website as well as in her book, is how the things that are labeled "felonies," and the way those things are policed, prosecuted, and sentenced, are entirely different for people of color than they are for others in this country. If you are a black male in a poor neighborhood and you make it to adulthood without a rap sheet, you have in fact beat the odds. In fact, you have better odds of being incarcerated than graduating from college. That is why the denial of citizenship post-conviction is so important.
Moral of the story.. don’t commit a crime
That's just the tip of the iceberg
bad choices lead to bad outcomes
“If you have negative experiences with law enforcement”
Mass Crime
Understand that what she in essence speaking about is the root causes of what we see around us. All the drugs and guns tend to mysteriously end up in our neighborhoods, Our chlideren are no different from the Columbine kids, You give kids guns they will play deadly games. You combine the dispair, poverty, and the promotion of negative ideas, and examples through music industry moguels who, I add, are making millions on the same dispair and suffering, and you have what M A is pointing out!
what is the new Jim crow and how is ti connected to mass incarceration????
Good sign
Beautiful and brilliant...
People will begin voting ,to cure the problem......
was slavery mass incarceration the time of explaining to whites about oppression is done
voting by the hand of God
If you can't follow the laws then you shouldn't elect people to make the laws.
Discrimination on the basis of your criminal history? First, it's stretching the term 'discrimination.' It's not like racial discrimination (which we're very familiar). It's 'discrimination' based on a choice to commit a crime. Would you want a person convicted of fraud to be your banker? A sex offender to be a teacher? a cop convicted of a violent crime? Of course not. Felons are not victims. Felons have created victims. If the employer agrees with you then wouldn't they hire them anyway? Yes, but they don't. Unless we can pay felons less then they wont get hired. That's the solution--abolish the minimum wage. I don't see how this makes sense: 1 job opening. 2 equal candidates. 1 is a felon. 1 is not a felon. Why the eff would hire the felon? He commits the same crime then you are sued because you knew he did that kind of stuff. For example, If I worked at Wendy's and the employer hires someone convicted of multiple sexual assaults. I get sexually assaulted. I sue the employer because the employer should had warned. This lady is ridiculous despite her fantastic resume and alma mater. Unfortunately, that sterling education has been filtered through the belief that people aren't responsible for their own actions. I'm blown away by two things: 1) your resume 2) and you believe what your saying.
Garnished wages to pay court cost? That stuff isn't free. The felon committed the crime but the taxpayer is stuck with the whole bill? Free housing/food/health care for x number of years wasn't enough? People usually have to work really hard to provide those things for themselves.
No free food for drug felons? Let's be serious. I pay for my own food and I am not a felon. Free food is a gift; not a right.
Jury service? Wouldn't you think a felon would be a little biased? Also, negative experience with law enforcement only disqualifies you with case related to police misbehavior. The juror would also have to say it wouldn't make him biased. I would strike every felon if I was a prosecutor.
You don't like the look or stigma? I'm sure the victim of the felony didn't like to be murdered/rape/stolen from/assaulted.
All the things she said should be grouped under 'Don't commit felonies.' These are deterrents. On the other hand, they keep people safe. They warn people, "Yo, back in 1993 this guy robbed a liquor store'
Stephen Butler
How many politicians broke laws? The last three presidents admitted to drug use.if they were poor, they would have been in jail.
Violence is not the main thing black men learn in prison. They learn to survive. Malcolm X, went into prison, and came out a man. Although Malcolm was exceptional in many ways, that transformation still takes place. It is not rare, which is why it is not publicized. Had it been, funding would decrease.
what is the new Jim crow and how is ti connected to mass incarceration????
I'm not following the point you are making. Are you saying getting a felony conviction, and losing many if not all your legal rights and privileges, is a great way to learn how to survive? Malcolm ( who was by far from average and went out of his way to "self" educate himself) is an exception to the rule.
What happened to all your black leaders like Farrakhan Malcolm Reverend Jesse Jackson all these old so-called black leaders what they doing for blacks nothing
Jesse Jackson like Barrack Obama were white appointed black leaders. And in a system governed by the world-wide religion and practice of white supremacy only the creation of individual "self leaders" will be able to break the evil curse.
Michelle Alexander's book "The New Jim Crow" is an improvement on my book "The Rise of Hindu Supremacy, The Collapse of The USA".
what is the new Jim crow and how is ti connected to mass incarceration????
wow,shes sooooooooo pretty omg...
what is the new Jim crow and how is ti connected to mass incarceration????
The continuation of laws, policies, and customs which make it easier to incarcerate or murder certain individuals. And harder for certain individuals to survive on the outside of the prison system. All which stems from the fact slavery and the original Jim Crow system has never been, and isn't intended to be addressed.
Wrong....and democrates supported it
Nobody is forced to commit a crime. If you have a criminal history and you are a f...ing felon, don't complain if society it's hard on you. Social discipline, strong family values, self respect. Those are the keys of a productive life. Color of the skin is irrelevant. Stop playing the victim.
Michelle...if people of color are criminalized so much, then why aren't you a felon? Is it because you have a mind of your own, much like everyone else? Why can't you see others in the same way you see yourself. You are black, yet not a felon...so why can't other black people follow suit? While it sucks that felons are denied opportunites, I also feel like, if they wanted a fair life, perhaps they should not have commited any crimes.