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In this episode Daniel and Mick take two original Klon Centaur pedals - one silver and one gold - and A/B them against the latest Klon-alikes.
The Klon Centaur is the most revered overdrive pedal of all time, setting guitar players’ hearts alight as much as it does angry exchanges on gear forums and social networks.
So, WE’LL ISSUE THIS WARNING RIGHT NOW…
If low-to-medium gain overdrive isn’t your thing, and the prospect of sitting through 37 minutes of very, very, very similar-sounding pedals will be boring for you, please turn off now!
For everyone else, grab a beverage of your choosing and get your dog ears on, because this one is waaaaaay close. Our pedals are…
• Klon Centaur Professional Overdrive (Silver) s/n S 2182 (no longer available)
• Klon Centaur Professional Overdrive (Gold) s/n 3099 (no longer available)
• J Rockett Archer rockettpedals.com/product/arch...
• J Rockett Archer Ikon rockettpedals.com/product/arch...
• Electro-Harmonix Soul Food www.ehx.com/products/soul-food
• Wampler Tumnus wamplerpedals.com/product/tumnus/
• Rock Your Repaired Amp Klone theklonepedal.com/
Why is there no KTR? Because we didn’t get one in time! There are plenty of online demos A/Bing the KTR against the original Klon, so hopefully we can take that as read.
Amps today are a Two-Rock Studio Pro 35 running through a custom Zilla 1x12 with Celestion G12H-75 Creamback, and a Marshall JTM45 that’s been reboxed, into a Marshall 2061CX 2x12 with Celestion GH12H Anniversary speakers. We say in the video that the amps are set ‘clean’, and indeed they are, the but one of the amps is definitely driving harder, or picking up some of the pedals’ drive in a more obvious way. So you’re hearing a mix of a ‘cleaner’ amp, and one that’s ended up a bit more dirty. It gives you a chance to hear the harder-clip edge of the Klon. Er, or that’s our excuse anyway.
Dan is playing a Nik Huber Krautster II and Mick plays a Fender American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster, Collings SoCo and Gibson Custom Les Paul Standard 1958 reissue.
As ever, all pedal switching and signal routing is handled effortlessly by TheGigRig G2.
For more on TheGigRig, see www.thegigrig.com
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Why am I sitting around with a 2nd kidney like a sucker when I could be the proud owner of a silver Klon?
TheParanoidAndroid79 buy the Soul Food for $70 you can keep your kidney and have a Klon
Eddy Priest Happy Soul Food owner here, I second your statement.
I'm not shure about the soul food but I think they mentioned that the Tumnus was quieter (not to mention its bottom end) so the Klons totaly lost. And if you factor in that the Soul food even if its not an improvement like the Tumnus is, costs only 70 bucks.....why on Earth would you lose a kidney for a Klon?
That profile pic! 🖖🏽😂
Me Hats Crooked
So, I was really confused for a second on why the silver Klon had a tap tempo light.. Took me 10 minutes to realize it was the camera reflection
John M same
It took me 10 minutes after reading your comment that it was the red camera light xDD
You can tap the tempo of the odd order harmonics
@@30smsuperstrat Lol
Internal LED light in a Klon ! LMFAO But, I see it too now ;-)
Well done Brian Wampler!
+dicktwitchy thanks :)
+Wampler Pedals Easily one of the best pedal designers/brands, once I show someone one of my wamplers they end up with a few on their board haha!
He doesn't put them out until they are Properly Good!
+Wampler Pedals Well done! I am a stickler of Wampler pedals, Your beginning to prove me wrong. How dare you!!
+Wampler Pedals Best of the bunch. Clever name, too. And the fact that most people are not going to get it makes it all the better.
I've said it before and I'll say it again..Brian Wampler fu*kin' ROCKS..
Wampler make up the core of my board.. Essential..
+Clive Barnes Thanks! :)
+Wampler Pedals pinnacle is my main distortion , won't be getting replaced anytime soon!
+Wampler Pedals time to sell my archer ikon and get the tumnus
+wingee plexi drive and clarksdale here. I hope this stacks nicely with my clarksdale
Brian Wampler is the man, plus nearly all his pedals can come in mini's! Got the mini ego, ace 30 and saving for the tummus...my board is heading the same way.
7 years later it is still one of your best ! We could use a refresh with the new ones that had come since then. You guys rock !
Cheers mate 🤓🙏
Agreed. Need help choosing Ceriatone Centura or Ryra
Great Video!~ I am glad you guys love RYRA
The Klone!
Even though I didn't read/comment regarding video suggestions these videos topics are exactly what I have been waiting/looking for! This is the first channel I go to for any pedal vids, and I hope you keep on making videos as you possibly can.
So great to see you guys had a great time doing this video...
Daniel that guitar is SPECIAL....!
This episode is one of the greatest in the entire history of TPS. Playing is so good, sounds killer, guitars just ace and the chemistry of these lads extraordinary. Btw, Tumnus was and is my choice of klonextravaganza.
The RYRA Klone! I love that thing. Thanks for including it. :)
Great Video guys! Keep it up. Thoroughly enjoyable, fun, and really it helps many of us avoid making mistakes in our purchases as so many company's attempt to lure us towards pedals based solely on price. Thx again.
well done as per usual. looking forward to the new year. i also need one of those pedal show t-shirts!
I have used the soul food for a couple of years. Very happy with it.
Watching again....5 years later
As always thanks for doing the video guys. Hugely appreciated and informative and I always learn a lot. Richer for the view thanks again and please keep it up😊
A very big THANK YOU for doing this comparison. It went about how I thought. I have a new Tumnus arriving in a day or two. Daniel, your new Nik Huber guitar sounds truly amazing - very open and alive. Congrats! :)
I have a Soul Food pedal that I’ve enjoyed. I’m quite satisfied with it. Hearing these pedal in this video, the Tumnus is incredible. It moves up on my list. 👍🏽
Surprisingly the Klone sounds the best to me. It sounds so much thicker and fuller than the klon. The Tumnus is really impressive too.
You guys had some fun with the tumnus... I may get one... really liked it!!!
You rock!!
Cheers from Brazil!!
Great video guys! Thanks for the help. I'm feeling the Tumnus too!
You two are the absolute best.
I'd like to think someones pedalboard looks like this
Chandler Crane all stacked at once
😂😂😂
Billy Gibbons way of using Klons and Klones. 5 in a row all on. Transparent distortion 😁
John mayers probably looks a bit like that
Mine does.
My ears learned more from your shows than in 25 years of life. Thank you guys
Woah, thanks a lot for this proper run-thru of the coolest Klon Klones and comparison to the originals! Really cool! I think the silver Archer sounds massively good, so that's a new addition to my list :))
For my money I would have to specifically shoot out the Tumnus and the Ikon. I would probably end up with the Wampler because it just comes alive at higher gain levels but sounds authentic when it's down low. Also I love Brian's work so ya!
Tumnus was the Fawn Centaur in The Lion, the Witch & the Wardrobe, fwiw.
Awesome guys! Best episode thus far in my opinion.
Would be great to see an episode on reverbs for the ambient/post-rock-ish crowd.
Cheers!
Great news about the new That Pedal Show channel! You'll have to put a link to that in one of the upcoming videos. This is by far my favorite regular show.
Ya know...we all have our struggles. Body aches & pains, a loved lost, poverty in some form or fashion. However, when you have at least 20 very cool amps, literally hundreds of pedals and a good buddy to jam with, all those big, bad problems get lost in the darkest corner of the practice room.
Not a fair comparison of the soul fool. The tone control is set much higher than the others. No wonder it sounds brighter.
Hey Daniel and Mick. Brilliant presentation guys. Thank you for going into detail on the these pedals. Daniel you are a tone genius. I have the Gold Ikon Archer. Cheers.
Just stumbled on you guys. Great videos and very entertaining. No doubt pedals sound different in the hands of different players as well as equipment. Keep it up!
I think this is an instance where TH-cam's compression really shows its affects here. I would love it if we could get access to higher quality audio.
long loving gaze at 7 mins 20 seconds! ! lol caught ya
Just hitting the like button before seeing this episode (because you guys are amazing!)
4 years old and I still smirk every time that gold klon comes in.
Omg the tumnus is pure golden tone! Love it much more than the original klon 😱
"As we stare gazingly in to each others eyes"???? I think you mean "As we gaze lovingly in to each others eyes"... Either way, its a beautiful relation you guys. Let me know when I need to buy a new hat ;)
Oh Captain my Captain this made me laugh lol
nb
+Sam Sham nah bro this is that pedal show
Hey Captain, why are Klon Centaur so expensive? It's just circuitry. If it's possible to truly "clone" the circuit, then what are people shelling out three thousand clams FOR? The faceplate? If it's NOT possible to truly clone the circuit however, why not? If it's just circuitry after all. Is there some two-thousand-dollar capacitor in there or something? I don't understand! I heard that Klon last night through a LP on your channel last night, and it made me jump in the air! So I looked it up, and WTFFFF!
@@CraigFlowersMusic TL/DR: the design is inventive and the product sounds good, and there are only around 8000 units in the world, so that is probably the main factor justifying the price.
Long answer: The Klon was one of the very first truly boutique pedals. The guy who created and hand-made each of these pedals used to take orders on the phone, he wanted to hear what a potential customer expected to make sure the Klon was something for them; then the sold product was shipped via post. This went on for a few years. It used to cost under 300 dollars new, hand-made. Over time, more and more guitarists started to consider it a "secret weapon", because it sounded different from the usual go-to, mid-boosty overdrive pedals (e.g. TubeScreamer) at the time. It ended up landing on the pedalboards of some famous artists, which increased demand for the product. The guy couldn't produce them by hand anymore in a timely fashion, and refused to have it produced by some contracted factory. Eventually he stopped selling them, after shipping around 8000 units total.
So there you have one justifiable explanation for the price: there are only a few in the world, and if you want to have "the true thing that was touched by the hands of the artist", you have to pay top dollar for it. The guy tried to protect his invention buy covering the circuit with hard black epoxi. Ever since, some people "destroyed" their Klons to see what was underneath it, and the circuit has been known for many years. You can check its schematic and analysis in a website called electrosmash dot com and see that it is indeed a very inventive and original design -- which can be copied and replicated, in theory. The original creator states that he bought a very large number of old, vintage, no longer produced electrical components that are the "fairy dust" responsible for the unique sound, but this is higly debatable. Moreover, some highly regarded pedal designers like to point out that the "magical" components are not even relevant if the Klon is used only as a booster, which is how most people like to use the pedal.
Well done, fellas. Top-notch production. Love the video overlays highlighting which pedal is being used, and the recording quality with compressor; voice comes right through and amps are clear and articulate. As for the pedals, themselves, well... awesome. Great choice of guitars and amps for evaluation. I got a lot more than I expected from this survey. I was just recently lamenting not having a low-to-moderate overdrive sound that yields great touch-responsiveness and transparency (seems that term is often overused/overhyped, but is clearly warranted in the discussion of these pedals). You guys have given me a new itch to scratch! Oh, by the way, really nice playing from both of you, as well. Relevant and tasty. Rock on.
You sold me on the Tumnus!! Thanks for great comparison!
Brian is one smart bugger! Tumnus sounds great!
+picklemetro Thanks! :)
*****
haha! Thanks man
+Wampler Pedals How close is that? Nailed it. Another one on the shopping list!
+Wethewax hahaha, from one Star Wars nerd to another, that was hilarious.
Josh ain't doin' to bad himself. I got the Meat and 3 modded Soul Food on my board.
I though for half the video that the silver Klon had a blinking red light showing through from behind the metal cover. DOH!
andrewt248 same
the same :D:D:D
Aw, man... Too funny!!!
Loving the SoCo / ESy sounds. Would love to hear it with other types of pedals too. Gary Clark Jr with his full on fuzz springs to mind.
Good episode guys, cheers.
Great very useful vid!Helped me decide on the Tumnus.That thing edged it for me.Sounds great 👍🏻
All very close but only one can be bought for around £60!!
I bought a soul food based on price. And I was more than satisfied. I use it as a solo boost. Works perfectly.
same, once I figured out how to get the best from it anyway!
Some lovely playing during the comparisons mick
Luv it guys! Keep it up. Micks tasty licks off the chain on this one!
The gold Archer is my favorite in there, also like the tumnus and the gold klon, i think i like gold stuff lol
CS Lewis likes the one on the left.
+andrewt248 Wonder how many other people got the reference lol
+NightwishLover chyea!
andrewt248 LMFAO took me a minute
I agree with Jack
Hi abbel
Killer episode, but by far my favourite part is the advice, 'If your audience is turning off, play less not more.' Wow! That is a very deep and amazing piece of information that I will hopefully digest. Thank you Mick and Mick's friend. As much as the insight into klon/klones is brilliant, that little nugget is going to last me much longer than a pedal. Gratci, gratci!
GREAT video guys! Friday is Dan & Mick Day ;)
Looking forward to your channel!
As for the Klons: The Tumnus sounds ACE! But I also had a "wow!" moment when you played through the turquoise RYRA Klone with more drive dialled in.
And that Krautster is amazing!
I have owned the KTR and the Soul Food and currently use a Tumnus and prefer that one over all. To me the Tumnus is closest to the gold Centaur with a touch more low end which is nice. One pedal left out of this, which I wish they had included was the Keeley Oxblood, but otherwise killer demo and I appreciate it!
The Emperor's New Klons.
Great comparison video. Thanks!
Wauw, thanks Daniel and Mick! I've been playing the Archers in every store i found, and everytime i couldn't decide...because they sounded very different to each other. But after seeing this video i'm definitely going to try the Wampler. That's the extra bottom end and grit i've been looking for!
wow, really impressed by that little tumnus pedal. Brian Wampler strikes again! Great job guys!
+Steve Rayburn Thanks Steve! :)
I have a Fender twin reverb amp, very very clean, so I put the Tumnus at the end of my dirt pedals and keep it on all the time. sounds killer on its own, and with other OD pedals it sounds incredible.
Finally, I've just bought a Tumnus. Greeeeeeeat pedal!
@Daniel HallIt sounds really nice. I'll upload a video playing with it and some cool guitars on my channel asap. ;)
Dig it! Just want one now. these kinds of shoot outs with direct comparisons are great!
very good to know less expensive option available can certainly hold up.
Brillant Team work, thx from all serious guitar sound seekers 🍻
This kind of thing is so subjective, each person hears something they like more than another. For me I liked the Wampler pedal the best, but the Soul Food wins because it sounds great and is so damn inexpensive.
you are right. Hell, I cant stand their clean tones because humbuckers sound like mud to be, to dark. That is just my opinion though
Mick, you're an amazing player. Everything you play is just beautiful, powerful and nuanced. I wish I could have followed your learning path when I was a young kid coming up. I am always impressed with your skills.
OK, so now I really have to say you're an impressive player as well, Dan. That's not just an after thought so you don't feel slighted. I just forget how great you both are until I listen to you each going back and forth.
They all sound f#%#ng amazing, but I guess some of it is in the feeling you get when you play the different ones too. Good job. Thanks for making this video.
It was said on the 5150 video but I have to echo it here - how refreshing to see comparisons where you tweak the knobs to try and match the sounds as close as possible and not just 'everything at 12'. Best videos ever - thanks gents
JHS Sould Food for me. Heard it not too long ago and was completely sold on it.
Not sure if anybody has mentioned how the Klon centaur stacks with other pedals so amazingly
First I must thank this two gentleman for sharing & produce the most awesome, well made guitar gear videos with awesome guitar playing & incredible tones.
I must share with you all and I truly wish you'll had the ARC V2 included in this shootout because you all would be very pleasently surprised. If you can still do at later date a side by side with Tumnus, Archer, RYRA or ARC V2 this pedal rocks after trying all others..... Cheers
One of the best TH-cam channel, I LOVE watch your videos, anything. :-)
Great video guys, but why haven't you included the Blah Clone?
Currently have my Soul Food set to a clean boost (low gain, high volume) running into a AC 30 normal channel to boost me up a bit. If i need some dirty dirt dirt, I have a tc electronic dark matter behind it. Love the Klon clone and could not be happier. Especially for 60 bucks!
I use a Soul food to tighten up my op amp big muff. Works beautifully.
keep coming back to this 6 yrs later.
I absolutely LOVE my silver Archer, but I must say I'm going to have to pick up a Tumnus as well. Super impressed with that!
Soul Food is a total sleeper pedal. Paint it and tell someone it's a more expensive clone and they'll love the shit out of it haha.
so true. its amazing for the price
For those on a budget or those experimenting with the idea of buying into this sound, it's very nice. Not Klon territory, it's got it's own flavor. Admittedly didn't work for me and my setups but for someone on a budget, it's a colorful and unique take on the circuit. Ultimately I went for the Wampler as it's much more organic, true to the original and didn't have that weird high-mid bump/fizz thing going on that the Soul Food did.
I use a JHS Modded soul food and it's absolutely the best overdrive for a semi clean amp, kills the 808. I kept both, the 808 for metal. Anyway, the JHS had selectable germanium diodes which makes the soul food go from convincing to uncanny. Love that thing, perfect bright spanky "clean" tones and it works with all guitars equally well.
I personally think they didn't pick a cool enough name/design. It's the only thing holding it back.
I was skeptical and passed on the Soul Food at first and went with the Archer. After discovering that I didn't care for the Archer I took a shot with the SF and haven't looked back. I don't care if it's not a faithful klone. It sounds great on its own and makes my other drive pedals sound better when paired up. What more do you want?
Love the Show. Watch you guys Constantly. I am Absolutely Addicted. It's Phenomenal. ( However ) There is 1 way to Improve upon it. Is there a way, to Normalize the Volume? ( between the speaking parts & playing parts ) as often-times, I am watching at 2am - and find-myself: Constantly Adjusting the Volume to hear you guys Speak vs. the Actual Playing segments. Keep it Up.
I Never want this to end. Even the AB Comparisons are Fantastic. Best Show on You Tube ( for me ). - Michael Caz - NYC -
Once again, another superb demo/analysis. The real surprise to me was Dan's new guitar which I couldn't take my eyes or ears off of... I own both of the Rockett pedals. In the studio, you have to pick between them as they are different, but at a gig any differences are lost in the shuffle. I'd love to see you guys explore why and how wah pedals interact with certain distortion and fuzz pedals (especially fuzz) with often times amazingly crappy results. Thanks for all your efforts.
Great Klon-clone comparison. Thank you! These are all fantastic pedals: Hadn't I bought the Archer (silver) a while ago, I'd go for the tumnus now.
They all sound the same to me!
No way dude! That's like saying all beers taste the same... But, I get your point. The differences only really matter in regards to how they affect your playing.
@@albertplaysguitar in terms of the tone you are trying to achieve they all can do it. Non are bad
THEN YOU ARE IN LUCK.........SAVED THOUSANDS..
AGREED VERY LITTLE DIFFERENCE WHY WASTE SO MUCH TIME WITH YOUR LIFE GO OUT AND PLAY AND RIGHT MUSIC,
@@denieledwards6893 I prefer to wrong music
When I first plugged in the Tumnus at home it sounded okay. When I used it on stage, that’s when I “got it”. Now I never turn it off. It makes everything sound better and more alive. It cuts through the densest mix without sounding hyped. It’s the drive for people who hate drive pedals and love their amp tone but need a little more hair on the note. Internally it runs at 18 volts and the drive knob is actually a mix knob. That’s what I call “transparent”. The buffer alone is worth the price of admission. I would not want this pedal in true bypass. Love it.
What amp and guitar you used it with?
Tells us more...
Wow, that Krautster II is one of the best looking guitars I've seen in a while and it sounded just as good... in your hands anyway. Great show guys, Wampler ftw
Well done guys. Tumnus sounds amazing for my taste.
I just got my Tumnus! Its my 3rd Wampler pedal and I personally think they are light years ahead in terms of tone. Thank you guys for the video. You are always bringing very helpful comparisons that every guitarist would like to do! You have the best jobs in the world!
+Daniel TheGigRig
Great episode! Will you be doing a "How to clean gain with volume knob" anytime soon? Theres so much there to explore; treble bleed vs no treble bleed on strats, 50s wiring on a Les Paul vs modern wiring, linear pots vs audio taper. I think Klon type pedals would be perfect for an episode on the subject.
Great video. I was going to get a silver archer for Christmas but I will get the Wampler Tumnus now. To my ears it sounded the best. Thanks for the demo I hadn't considered the tumnus till your video.
I knew I needed one of these type pedals.. thanks for costing me yet more money, brothers!
They all sound great, especially the Gold Archer and the Tumnus (as clones)... But, I think the Gold Archer would sit (and cut) better in an ensemble context. The low-end of that Tumnus might get muddy outside of a trio set up. If you added keys and second guitar to that trio, things get cloudy quick without space and EQ... I guess it all depends on the style of music, the amp, and the EQ... Just a practical thought, because what sounds good to you in your room doesn't always translate on stage with others...
That's a good point! Adding to that : 99% of the time in a live setting, sound engineers will hit the low cut button or will attenuate as high as 150 hz because that's where the low end for the bass and the kick drum is. But yeah, everyone's usage is different. I would set the Tumnus as a 2nd overdrive with a little mid boost and the gain set to 12o'clock to get a dirtier sound because it would cut into a live band setting.
100% correct!
22:30 for the tl:dw version
I never thought I actually needed a Klon-style pedal until I saw this video... amazing demo as always.
I actually ended up getting a Red Jasper from Free-the-Tone Red, which is not exactly a Klon-clone, but occupies the same space - so to speak. I am absolutely in love with that pedal: it fattens the overall tone, acts as a buffer for my pedalboard, has so much dynamics, is very very touch sensitive and organic, and stacks perfectly well with other drive pedals.
Guys, please, please, please, show the amazing japanese pedal makers some love too, there are some pretty amazing stuff coming from them (Free-the-Tone, Human Gear, Shin's Music, Vemuram etc). Cheers!
yes! was waiting for this one :)
Great video as usual guys, just a little disappointed that you guys didn't play the Soul Food as much as the rest, how does the Soul Food compare with the original klons?
The Tumnus is gonna be my next buy!
It's killer
+The Captivated me too
+The Captivated Holy crap it's good.
I really appreciate the use of two different styles of guitars here. I know I complained about it before but I was mistaken! THANKS
I love the sound of the Klon's. The Archers sound great also but I LOVE my Tumnus Deluxe. You guys should have use one for this demo cause it has the 3 EQ knobs that make it very versatile. Awesome pedal One my favorites! Wampler makes great pedals. I own the 'Ego compressor' also on my board, they are paired with a Keeley Red Dirt, 'MXR Carbon Copy' and a 'Boss EQ' to add more versatility and to tame the tube amp beast for home practice. Cheers guys from the US !! Keep the videos coming. You guys always put out useful knowledge of gear and entertainment!
Boys I think I have now watched every vid - great work here and same on Guitarist... Next step is recreating some iconic tones... Page, Beck, Clapton, Keef, Gilmour, Townsend, SRV, Hendrix, Eddie, Summers, Edge ... One video per artist
The humble Soul Food isn’t exactly as good as the real Klons, but for $70 gets you 90% there. Pretty good design, and EHX has sold a million of them. Klon tones on the budget menu.
the 10% missing is the case, knobs and bragging rights
Awesomeness, thanks guys :)
I have a Wampler's Triple Wreck and...I think my 2nd will be the Tumnus, it sounds AWESOME!! Once more, Brian has done it, thanks Brian for such great products!
Plug those AC30s back on! Cheers
At 5:15 Mick can tell the difference between the Klon and the Soul Food.
This video convinced me to buy an Archer. Great videos!
Great video