I fell in love with the Legend Diver 39mm the first time I saw it, and of course have now followed through with a purchase. All of the reasons mentioned drew me to the watch: the fact it was 39mm, internal bezel, no date complication, and there wasn't any other watch in this price range that I felt could really compete. It won't be my last Longines watch, I love what they're doing.
So this became my first ever watch over $250 last month; I had no idea the Legend also appealed to seasoned collectors too. I was looking for a less obvious & more unique quality diver from a well established brand. I also appreciate the versatility of its appearance. There doesn't seem to be any situation where this watch would look out of place for me. Weekends, weekdays, work, date night, travel. The beads of rice bracelet makes it feel a notch dressier along the sport - dress spectrum. It also does wear thinner than the specs indicate because the thick sapphire just disappears; it has antireflective coating on both sides. Between the Legend and my G-Shock I'm fully covered.
If I was releasing my first dive watch, it would most definitely have a diameter of 39mm to 40mm with a L2L between 46mm to 48mm. 12.5mm in thickness or under. 20mm lug. It's just the safest dimensions that generally pleases the small wrists, average wrists, and large wrists.
I like diver's between 37mm (with a long lug to lug) to 40mm. I currently have two 38mm divers. I like that size, too. Never had a 38.5mm watch. @@yusufbest4475
I saw it and loved it. Great video with beautiful macro views of what I exactly liked: that dome,where light is beautifully curved,is what makes me love that piece.Also, being smaller the dial looks more compact than the airy 42mm version. Like it or not. I do like it. Sadly,in a big wrist,looked a bit small to me. At least smaller than my bb58.could get used to it. But what I am not fancying though is the bracelet. I would have preferred a more discrete one. Titanium color like or black pvd. Not sure. To be on the elegant without the shiny part. Still thinking about it.
I absolutely love this watch and have already tried it twice at the AD. I loved the black, but cannot justify another black dial in my collection, but was a little underwhelmed by the blue version. I will not pull the trigger just yet, as I assume Longines will release new colors this year or next. But this is definitely a watch I want to own. It's quirky, it's dressy, it's purpose-built and most importantly it's truly unique. As you mentioned a couple of times, there's nothing quite like it. Also you forgot to mention it's now COSC certified, which in my book is a big plus. Absolutely killer review, thank you!
You always have such detailed reviews which are a pleasure to watch. I love this review. as someone that owns a Black bay 58, I really want the Longines Legend Diver - It looks like the perfect watch :). ps the no date is a big win :)
Always been a fan of The Legend Diver ever since I saw it on a billboard back in who can remember when. The size held me back, then allll the color iterations made my head spin. But THIS. I will probably be pulling the trigger. But the blue or the black hmnnnnn…
I just bought one a week ago and have been wearing it this whole week. I got the 39mm in blue on the BOR bracelet. I agree with all your points. I don't do dress watches. My lifestyle doesn't really lend many opportunities for such watches. However, I did find myself going to watch the Nutcracker around Christmas and that was the few times I could and wanted to dress up to go out. I did struggle with finding a proper watch to match my dressed up attire. As such, I feel this new LLD39 may actually serve such an occasion well the next time I need a dress watch. It's still a diver and I outfit with different straps to play into the more tool and sport vibe most of the time. But, I feel this will work so well on the BOR bracelet or pair with an alligator or ostrich strap to dress up.
Thank you for your detailed review. Bought the black dial 39mm. It was a toss up with the blue dial because I have other black dial watches, but I found with the blue dial the fine radial lines blend into the dial. Also, the bracelet now comes with a 3 position micro adjustment clasp.
I saw one today at my local Bucherer boutique while I was inquiring about an OP36, BB36 and 54. The AD showed me the Longines and I was very intrigued. The fit was first rate and the fact that it doesn’t have an exterior bezel is important to me. A diver that doesn’t look like a diver. I’m also a fan of the beads of rice look. I’m considering (too) many options to gift myself for a milestone birthday. Now I have another!
Mike, another great analysis. I bought the OG 42mm with date on a Milanese bracelet, and have been wearing it on a leather strap all this week. Fits me well, and when on a Milanese strap I too look at it as a dress watch, but on a leather I sometimes think It's my pilots watch due to the size! One thing that has pee'd me off however is the poor Lume on the dial and hands, absolutely shocking, there's just no excuse. There's a lot to be said for Rolex design, as in do it right, do it once, the fact that they've added numerals made from solid lume and decent lume markers on the dial say's it all. I think this new 39mm on the beads of rice bracelet is killer! I'm not bitter, honest guv 🤣🤣🤣
I saw it, I tried it on, I love it! I want it, but don’t need it. It’s really handsome and unique. Feels great on the wrist. Working that bezel is a lot of fun, smooth as silk. If I was starting out and saw this one, I probably would have gotten it.
Love the perspectives, binged a few vids since finding you and I think your content is unique. Keep it up! Will be looking to see this piece in person.
Hey Mike, one alternative that I think might've slipped your attention is Baltic Aquascaphe Dual Crown. After seeing Ledend Diver I immediately thought about visual similarity that both watches share. Of course you do get extra 100m WR with Longines and extra power reserve, but at the cost of added thickness... And the cost itselfz of course! Really enjoyed your video!
Nice discussion on the design elements and how the use of negative space impacts the look of the watch. A deep dive on different brands traditions and design language would be fascinating.
Thanks so much for mentioning the 36mm! Didn't realise it existed and it'd be my pick. Nice though the Legend is, the design is just a bit bland and austere for my taste, but then again I like 70s garish green sunburst dials... Longines vs Tudor. Longines completely blows T out of the water in terms of history, technical innovation and back catalogue. For those that care about that. Longines also sell some watches with multiple complications which are unique at their price point. The Triple Calendar Moonphase Chronograph and the Retrograde, both in the Master Collection, for example.
I just found your channel today. Very well spoken and considerate. I really enjoy your videos. As you mentioned the IWC Mark XX, perhaps you could do a video about all the different Mark models - I'd like your take on it! Cheers
thank you. To be fair... my knowledge of the full history of the mark models is not the strongest in the business. That's a whole rabbit hole of details, I haven't gotten around to diving down into 😂
Thank you for this vid, another great release from Longines. I like it in 39. Classy, dressy yet purpose built. A very unassuming watch to most people. I was considering a Seastrong from Alpina until aware of this. Secondly I'm finding now I prefer subtle and not blocky and chunky divers. Therefore I'm selling my 0L65 Seiko Ocean and considering what to do with the Tudor BB 925. Once again thank you for this vid and comparison. Tschuss, Chris
You forgot the Rado Captain Cook. The Rado is a very similar design with a slender profile that is more dress than diver tool watch. it also has a beads of rice bracelet. As for Longines, the brand is very underrated here in the US. I find their watches very elegant and great value for the price.
Is there any chance to get an in depth review about the Baume et Mercier Riviera Baumatic in 39mm? I love your videos and would love to hear your opinion. Even a comment would be enough.
I agreed with EVERY word of this! I was fine with the size of the 42, but I do think this one is more versatile for an everyday choice, and I’m also really glad Longines makes niche watches like this. My only quibble is cost, which I think is a bit aggressive for what it is, but c’est la vie! The Polaris comparison is definitely on-point.
As someone who is a watch collector and enthusiast dive watches never really appealed yet i want one for the collection. This however appeals on so many levels and may just fill the dive watch void currently in the collection. Great review as always!
I love your content. As a new collector, I find it invaluable, erudite and right on target. I also miss the contents of the bookcase. Those that prefer it empty I think are a little bit ridiculous. Do the contents somehow threaten them? Do they feel inadequate? In my case, not a pun but to paraphrase a famous saying, bookcases make the man. Bravo, excellent channel! I love it and keep it up.
I have been eyeing this for a while now as an anniversary suggestion to my spouse (she has been asking what watches I am into). Would be a keep for life piece. Everyone says get the Tudor, but this just fits my style a bit more. And I don’t know why haha
I love that model, a home run from Longines (or more so a converted try, given your South African origins). Now the relevant question: who in their right mind will buy one of the new Seiko Prospex Marinemaster, with their stated accuracy at -10/+15 spd, over this Longines at around the same price?
Seen this watch at an AD, and I was really impressed with it. If it wasn’t for the fact I was purchasing an omega seamaster 300 diver in white , I’d easily of taken this watch in blue or black with the 39mm beads of rice bracelet. Well worth the money.
Need to get to wear one in person. I love the 42mm Legend as I have 7.5” wrist but despise the long lugs and gap it creates. I wish that simply had shorter lugs but this version may work and I appreciate no date. May be too small though.
Thanks for the review. I happen to own the JLC Polaris Date in green, which is imho infinitely better than this Longines .. but that's only because of the incredibly lacquered dial and amazingly beautiful (though a bit small movement). Yet, the simple black Polaris is indeed never three to four time better than the Longines, as the price suggests
I have this watch in my rotation with 2 Rolex subs and my beloved Tudor bb 58 blue but this Longines is my dress watch.I think even better looking is the Longines Tuxedo.
I’m a diver. I can’t imagine myself rotating a crown during a dive to time my safety stop!! The dive bezel needs to be outside & easily rotatable, even with gloved fingers!!
"but it's 2023.." Glad i'm not the only one who usually takes the entire month of January before I figure the correct-year thing out! ;-D Love this watch, btw. Hmmm....this, or one of the new slim-Marinemasters??
Excellent points. Everything about this watch is excellent especially considering the price. I’m a massive Longines fan and I’ve acquired 3 of their watches in the last year but I’m yet to pull the plug on a diver. This one screams buy me but I find these 2 colour ways a bit too bland, hopefully they come out with something a bit more special, like they did with their green Hydro Conquest GMT, then I’ll be all in. How good would this design look with a lacquered or, dare I dream, an enamel dial? Problem is it’d ruin any other watches for me.😂
Hi, I have the Alpina Seastrong Heritage diver which I got for an absolute steal but even at £1500 retail it's a fine compressor style watch. I have heard it is essentially the same watch as the Longines but badged as Alpina. Whatever, you should check it out.
Thank you for another excellent review. Question: I am interested in purchasing a Longines Ultra-Chron but do not have an AD that has the watch on site within a 2 hour drive of my home. This leaves me three options and I am curious what you would recommend and why. 1. I can order directly from the Longines site. 2. I can order from a large jeweler who is an AD. 3. I can go into a local branch of same large jeweler and order it there. Store manager told me they would have it shipped over from a branch that keeps the watch in stock. I get that working with an AD is probably good, but am I guaranteed to get a good watch if it is sent over from another store? Thanks.
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. Depends. If you're in the EU or UK - Buy it online. You have 14 days to return it if you don't like it. Applies in the UK as well. If you can get an AD to bring it in but not commit until you've tried it, then go for it, but I would never suggest buying a watch outright without right of return if you haven't had it on your wrist. 😀
Longines is a great watch brand, in its historical recreations and its totally new designs. For example, I own a retrograde moon phase that is hugely niche. Few are made because they are probably expensive to make and there is low demand. But in the shop where I bought one (at 20% discount), one of the family members who ran the shop already owned it. The design seems to have come from a group of friends who kept trying to one-up each other to make the most extravagant design that could be sold. I mean, a retrograde minutes display?! Longines, despite its size and watch output, is full of personality.
The (microbrand) Traska Seafarer is something one should consider if you like the aesthetic but don’t want to spend over $1000. Similar aesthetic for around $500-600 using a Miyota movement.
If you want the dive watch motif with the moveable outer bezel then the Longines design doesn't cut it. If you want a different type of diver design to time events for cooking or working out that also acts as a dress type of watch then the Longines works. One negative, unless I misunderstood, is you need to pull out the second crown to adjust the inner bezel. The other design cue which I don't like is the hands don't match.
It is a diver....desk diver and you can time your lunch break with the bezel. Seriously, I saw the JLC first and thr dial was amazing. Spending over $10k on a watch is not likely now tbough. I think if I got this Longines I would only be reminded it is not the JLC. I do like it though. Maybe after I see one in person but my next Longines will likely be a Spirit
Great review and comparison to the competition. 39/40 is where the vendors are apparently all headed, rightfully. Sometimes it’s nice to throw on a 42 for a little more presence. That is a very handsome watch. But pricing… maybe a bit optimistic on their part. I think $2500 would have been more appropriate. PS - the empty bookcase - I thought you got robbed. Was hoping your watches were well hidden.
I have the 42mm date, I think I would prefer the 39 but I can’t justify to myself buying the same watch twice. I could try and sell mine at a loss and then buy the new one at its higher price point but the feeling wouldn’t be great.
Right now unless a watch trades very close to retail preowned or over. Even if I’m buying with an AD in the UK I won’t buy anything unless it’s 25 - 50% off the rrp. Either as vouchers / gifts or money off. The watch market is seriously struggling whilst brands are increasing prices. If you are in the UK be patient and you will get the watches you want at the correct price outside of a few very hyped ones.
Zulu time and now legend diver. Longines has been a sleeper for me but now they have my undivided attention; Tudor takes a step back to second position in my mind...
Nothing wrong with the ETA2892 with 70hrs of power reserve and a silicone hairspring , cosc. I love the 2892, slim, robust, deadly accurate, the best winding of any mass produced movement
Fair question. As I state completely explicitly in the video - I reviewed it based on my experience wearing it at the ad. It's not a week on the wrist, but I feel I have enough of a feel for it to make a qualified statement. Any video that is in the "Reviews" playlist is a watch I have had in physically in my own hand at an AD, through a friend or in some other context. Some day, perhaps brands will see fit to send me watches as well. I have no doubt that many would love some more interesting b-roll than what I usually dish up with. Until then, I'll make do with stock b-roll. Cheers 😃
I just don't get an internal bezel on a dive (snorkelling) watch. Surely it's a complication with a much simpler answer: i.e. an external bezel, much more usable with cold wet soft (or gloved) fingers? All very good for the desk divers, I suppose, so rough edges don't ladder their stockings.
@@gori277 I think the compressor system came first because accurately sized gaskets / o-rings weren't sufficiently developed. Principally to do with available synthetic materials. What though that has to do with internal bezels, I'm not sure. I just know that internal bezels are impractical in the water.
@JohnMcKelvie maybe, if you're actually setting your watch in the water (not likely). If I was actually using my bezel to time my dive I'd prefer to set it at the start and not be fearful of knocking an external bezel. All this is quite academic as no one's used watches to time dives for more than 30 years (back when I got my diving cert), these are tributes to heritage, craftsmanship, and design more likely to time boling an egg than dives.
@@gori277 yes, better for eggs. Whilst I use a Shearwater dive computer to supplement / backup my AP rebreather's handset, I do use a bezel dive watch on penetrations into wrecks or sea caves for timing for horizontal distance. There's one in the Poor Knights marine reserve here in NZ which goes in some 50m to a fresh water spring. At depth, whether on trimix or just air diluent, brain-fog due to narcosis is insidious (especially with buoyancy and vision issues in a fresh-salt water mix in complete blackness with torches), so a bezel visually just showing the penetration time is simple and important. Getting to and finding the entrance can be a mission in itself, so the bezel has to be set underwater. 15 mins in with no vertical escape, so 15 mins out, with a separate quick mental calc. en route re. gas reserves in case of bailout. Once I lost contact with a buddy in a wreck due to silt, so I used the bezel to time 10 mins of just waiting in the gloom to see whether the silt thinned and to see which passageway he'd gone down and whether he was coming back, or whether (after a pre-agreed separation time) we'd find our own ways out. Setting a separate timer on a capable dive computer is possible but it's a faff remembering the menu-button sequence, and then you have to remember to turn it off, and not stuff any of the main functions of that computer especially deco. (With 2 computers, we always use the most conservative deco sequence). Remembering and marking time from the dive computer clock can be surprising difficult. The dive watch is just being used for one simple visual task, so that aspect at least is not preying on your mind in what can be a stressful situation. What I'm saying is that the external bezel remains useful because it's deployed with gloved hands under water.
I will try to do my best since my first language is French. With all due respect, why should I even consider subscibing to this channel when I see what is on your wrist, knowing also some of what is in your watchbox. Many watch enthousiasts like myself are reasonably well educated people working in low middle class fields of work, like public service for exemple. Even if we are in this hobby for almost 10 years now, it is impossible for us to bye what you are flexing. My hobby could be playing piano and I wouldn't expect making money out of it. I'm glad that yours at the moment is creating content on this topic. I just say do it for yourself and stop asking from us to subscribe. Don't worry, I won't miss any of your content if it interest me, I know where to find your channel. Finally, I find your angle when diving into the subject of watches to be very interesting most of the time. Thank you.
Je crois que tu tes trompes sur Mike… je continue en Anglais qui aussi n’est pas ma première langue mais plus facile que mon très rouillé français: I’ve been watching this channel for quite a few months and, even though I’ve had some difference in opinions, I’ve never noticed any “flex” or even pandering for clicks. From my impression Mike has obviously had/has quite a successful career in the corporate area and that actually allows him to offer quite an interesting perspective from the business side of things, opinions that I’ve found quite independent, much more than other channels that are obviously more compromised as they’re interested parties in the business. To me, it looks like he doesn’t really need the channel to make his earnings and it seems truly more an outlet to express himself and share his views as a watch enthusiast, there’s not an obvious line of reviews or videos of mostly popular watches in order to suit the algorithms, some of the videos are actually quite corporate/ marketing nerdy and not the obvious choice if you’re looking to grow your channel massively. Just my impressions as someone who’s only been following for 4-6 months and probably had the same initial impression as you but gave the channel the benefit of doubt, rummaged through past videos and changed my mind. All the best to you monsieur.
It’s the Legend Diver Longines should have released in the first place, although in 2024 it really should have an on-the-fly adjustment (and I’m one of those who can’t cope without a date function 😅)…but the SRP has doubled in a very short space of time compared to earlier releases now hitting £3,150 for this model. Ouch. Longines was alot cheaper than Tudor only a few years ago. 😢 Also I feel Longines overall design aesthetic is a little too ‘shiny’, a bit too Miami bar stool for me.
I fell in love with the Legend Diver 39mm the first time I saw it, and of course have now followed through with a purchase. All of the reasons mentioned drew me to the watch: the fact it was 39mm, internal bezel, no date complication, and there wasn't any other watch in this price range that I felt could really compete. It won't be my last Longines watch, I love what they're doing.
I really appreciate your straightforward no hype review style. It’s high value…kind of like Longines
Thank you kindly 😊😊
So this became my first ever watch over $250 last month; I had no idea the Legend also appealed to seasoned collectors too. I was looking for a less obvious & more unique quality diver from a well established brand. I also appreciate the versatility of its appearance. There doesn't seem to be any situation where this watch would look out of place for me. Weekends, weekdays, work, date night, travel. The beads of rice bracelet makes it feel a notch dressier along the sport - dress spectrum. It also does wear thinner than the specs indicate because the thick sapphire just disappears; it has antireflective coating on both sides. Between the Legend and my G-Shock I'm fully covered.
If I was releasing my first dive watch, it would most definitely have a diameter of 39mm to 40mm with a L2L between 46mm to 48mm. 12.5mm in thickness or under. 20mm lug. It's just the safest dimensions that generally pleases the small wrists, average wrists, and large wrists.
38.5 is even better 😅
I like diver's between 37mm (with a long lug to lug) to 40mm. I currently have two 38mm divers. I like that size, too. Never had a 38.5mm watch. @@yusufbest4475
Longines really knocked it out of the park with this one. What an elegant and tasteful watch. I love the solid case back and the no-date.
It's a stunner for sure 😊
I saw it and loved it. Great video with beautiful macro views of what I exactly liked: that dome,where light is beautifully curved,is what makes me love that piece.Also, being smaller the dial looks more compact than the airy 42mm version. Like it or not. I do like it. Sadly,in a big wrist,looked a bit small to me. At least smaller than my bb58.could get used to it. But what I am not fancying though is the bracelet. I would have preferred a more discrete one. Titanium color like or black pvd. Not sure. To be on the elegant without the shiny part. Still thinking about it.
Absolutely blown away by the quality of your review
Thanks 👊😃
I’ve been in love with this watch since I first saw it. It’s a true piece of visual art. Elegant, clean, unique.
I absolutely love this watch and have already tried it twice at the AD. I loved the black, but cannot justify another black dial in my collection, but was a little underwhelmed by the blue version. I will not pull the trigger just yet, as I assume Longines will release new colors this year or next. But this is definitely a watch I want to own. It's quirky, it's dressy, it's purpose-built and most importantly it's truly unique. As you mentioned a couple of times, there's nothing quite like it. Also you forgot to mention it's now COSC certified, which in my book is a big plus. Absolutely killer review, thank you!
Thanks - happy you felt the video was worthy of your time 😊
Longines would be my pick for a hypothetical one brand collection. 😊
Very good option. they have every kind of watch you need 😀😀
Oh yes! I have the BigEye, the grey sector dial, and a crazy watch with retrograde displays.
Longines for luxury/premium and Seiko for general.
I have this in Green and bronze and it’s a great watch - the bronze keeps changing !! Worth getting
You always have such detailed reviews which are a pleasure to watch. I love this review. as someone that owns a Black bay 58, I really want the Longines Legend Diver - It looks like the perfect watch :). ps the no date is a big win :)
Always been a fan of The Legend Diver ever since I saw it on a billboard back in who can remember when. The size held me back, then allll the color iterations made my head spin. But THIS. I will probably be pulling the trigger. But the blue or the black hmnnnnn…
I’ve just purchased the black dial version and love it. 👌😊
Good choice 😊
Longines are killing it! This is very nice! have a fantastic weekend Mike!
CHeers boet 😊
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch 😁👌
I just bought one a week ago and have been wearing it this whole week. I got the 39mm in blue on the BOR bracelet.
I agree with all your points.
I don't do dress watches. My lifestyle doesn't really lend many opportunities for such watches. However, I did find myself going to watch the Nutcracker around Christmas and that was the few times I could and wanted to dress up to go out. I did struggle with finding a proper watch to match my dressed up attire. As such, I feel this new LLD39 may actually serve such an occasion well the next time I need a dress watch. It's still a diver and I outfit with different straps to play into the more tool and sport vibe most of the time. But, I feel this will work so well on the BOR bracelet or pair with an alligator or ostrich strap to dress up.
Purchased the LLD 39mm in Blue on the bracelet last week while on a cruise and am very satisfied with the look and feel of the watch.
I absolutely love this watch. It’s top on my list for my next watch.
Thank you for your detailed review. Bought the black dial 39mm. It was a toss up with the blue dial because I have other black dial watches, but I found with the blue dial the fine radial lines blend into the dial. Also, the bracelet now comes with a 3 position micro adjustment clasp.
“Flaw #2” is the reason I love it!
I saw one today at my local Bucherer boutique while I was inquiring about an OP36, BB36 and 54. The AD showed me the Longines and I was very intrigued. The fit was first rate and the fact that it doesn’t have an exterior bezel is important to me. A diver that doesn’t look like a diver. I’m also a fan of the beads of rice look. I’m considering (too) many options to gift myself for a milestone birthday. Now I have another!
Mike, another great analysis. I bought the OG 42mm with date on a Milanese bracelet, and have been wearing it on a leather strap all this week. Fits me well, and when on a Milanese strap I too look at it as a dress watch, but on a leather I sometimes think It's my pilots watch due to the size! One thing that has pee'd me off however is the poor Lume on the dial and hands, absolutely shocking, there's just no excuse. There's a lot to be said for Rolex design, as in do it right, do it once, the fact that they've added numerals made from solid lume and decent lume markers on the dial say's it all. I think this new 39mm on the beads of rice bracelet is killer! I'm not bitter, honest guv 🤣🤣🤣
I saw it, I tried it on, I love it! I want it, but don’t need it. It’s really handsome and unique. Feels great on the wrist. Working that bezel is a lot of fun, smooth as silk. If I was starting out and saw this one, I probably would have gotten it.
Thanks for sharing
Love the perspectives, binged a few vids since finding you and I think your content is unique. Keep it up! Will be looking to see this piece in person.
Hey Mike, one alternative that I think might've slipped your attention is Baltic Aquascaphe Dual Crown. After seeing Ledend Diver I immediately thought about visual similarity that both watches share.
Of course you do get extra 100m WR with Longines and extra power reserve, but at the cost of added thickness... And the cost itselfz of course!
Really enjoyed your video!
Nice discussion on the design elements and how the use of negative space impacts the look of the watch. A deep dive on different brands traditions and design language would be fascinating.
Thanks - interesting idea for a topic. Will think it over 😊
Thanks so much for mentioning the 36mm! Didn't realise it existed and it'd be my pick.
Nice though the Legend is, the design is just a bit bland and austere for my taste, but then again I like 70s garish green sunburst dials...
Longines vs Tudor. Longines completely blows T out of the water in terms of history, technical innovation and back catalogue. For those that care about that.
Longines also sell some watches with multiple complications which are unique at their price point. The Triple Calendar Moonphase Chronograph and the Retrograde, both in the Master Collection, for example.
Im literally gonna go and see this puppy, havent been so interested i a retro diver since the '54
It's definitely worth a look 😊
I just found your channel today. Very well spoken and considerate. I really enjoy your videos.
As you mentioned the IWC Mark XX, perhaps you could do a video about all the different Mark models - I'd like your take on it!
Cheers
thank you. To be fair... my knowledge of the full history of the mark models is not the strongest in the business. That's a whole rabbit hole of details, I haven't gotten around to diving down into 😂
Thank you for this vid, another great release from Longines. I like it in 39. Classy, dressy yet purpose built. A very unassuming watch to most people. I was considering a Seastrong from Alpina until aware of this. Secondly I'm finding now I prefer subtle and not blocky and chunky divers. Therefore I'm selling my 0L65 Seiko Ocean and considering what to do with the Tudor BB 925. Once again thank you for this vid and comparison.
Tschuss, Chris
Cheers 😊
Thank you. I very much enjoy your videos.
Thank you - Appreciated 😊
Handsome watch. A non-compressor variant with similar design cues I'd go for, as not a fan of two crowns.
You forgot the Rado Captain Cook. The Rado is a very similar design with a slender profile that is more dress than diver tool watch. it also has a beads of rice bracelet.
As for Longines, the brand is very underrated here in the US. I find their watches very elegant and great value for the price.
True. I did. Good callout 😊
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch You never mention Rado. Time for a video! They occupy a pretty unique place in the current market 😁
Is there any chance to get an in depth review about the Baume et Mercier Riviera Baumatic in 39mm? I love your videos and would love to hear your opinion. Even a comment would be enough.
I agreed with EVERY word of this! I was fine with the size of the 42, but I do think this one is more versatile for an everyday choice, and I’m also really glad Longines makes niche watches like this. My only quibble is cost, which I think is a bit aggressive for what it is, but c’est la vie! The Polaris comparison is definitely on-point.
Awesome as always! Can you do a review of Steinhart watches in the future?
As someone who is a watch collector and enthusiast dive watches never really appealed yet i want one for the collection. This however appeals on so many levels and may just fill the dive watch void currently in the collection. Great review as always!
Thanks for watching 😊
I love your content. As a new collector, I find it invaluable, erudite and right on target. I also miss the contents of the bookcase. Those that prefer it empty I think are a little bit ridiculous. Do the contents somehow threaten them? Do they feel inadequate? In my case, not a pun but to paraphrase a famous saying, bookcases make the man. Bravo, excellent channel! I love it and keep it up.
Thanks. 👍👍
And yeah. The bookcase really gets people going 😊😊
I have been eyeing this for a while now as an anniversary suggestion to my spouse (she has been asking what watches I am into). Would be a keep for life piece. Everyone says get the Tudor, but this just fits my style a bit more. And I don’t know why haha
We don’t need the usual « a man and his watch » that every TH-camr and his dog have in their bookshelf.
Lol 😂 Good to know 😂😂
I love that model, a home run from Longines (or more so a converted try, given your South African origins). Now the relevant question: who in their right mind will buy one of the new Seiko Prospex Marinemaster, with their stated accuracy at -10/+15 spd, over this Longines at around the same price?
Seen this watch at an AD, and I was really impressed with it. If it wasn’t for the fact I was purchasing an omega seamaster 300 diver in white , I’d easily of taken this watch in blue or black with the 39mm beads of rice bracelet. Well worth the money.
i love how you spell Longines
Need to get to wear one in person. I love the 42mm Legend as I have 7.5” wrist but despise the long lugs and gap it creates. I wish that simply had shorter lugs but this version may work and I appreciate no date. May be too small though.
Thanks for the review. I happen to own the JLC Polaris Date in green, which is imho infinitely better than this Longines .. but that's only because of the incredibly lacquered dial and amazingly beautiful (though a bit small movement). Yet, the simple black Polaris is indeed never three to four time better than the Longines, as the price suggests
Yeah, so… not an apt comparison!
I have this watch in my rotation with 2 Rolex subs and my beloved Tudor bb 58 blue but this Longines is my dress watch.I think even better looking is the Longines Tuxedo.
I guess I’m going to have to ask Longines to take my money…
Lol... You would not be alone 😂
Love this watch. As you said it looks dressier than a tool watch but it is super cool
It's a fan favorite for a reason 😀
Great overview. Thank you.
I’m a diver. I can’t imagine myself rotating a crown during a dive to time my safety stop!! The dive bezel needs to be outside & easily rotatable, even with gloved fingers!!
The new grey dial makes this even more tempting
Even because the markers near the numerals have more contrast and the micro adjust clasp.
"but it's 2023.."
Glad i'm not the only one who usually takes the entire month of January before I figure the correct-year thing out! ;-D
Love this watch, btw. Hmmm....this, or one of the new slim-Marinemasters??
lol 😂
Excellent points. Everything about this watch is excellent especially considering the price. I’m a massive Longines fan and I’ve acquired 3 of their watches in the last year but I’m yet to pull the plug on a diver. This one screams buy me but I find these 2 colour ways a bit too bland, hopefully they come out with something a bit more special, like they did with their green Hydro Conquest GMT, then I’ll be all in. How good would this design look with a lacquered or, dare I dream, an enamel dial? Problem is it’d ruin any other watches for me.😂
Thanks. 😊
Wrist check 0:15 - is that a Royal Oak Chrono ?
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Hi, I have the Alpina Seastrong Heritage diver which I got for an absolute steal but even at £1500 retail it's a fine compressor style watch. I have heard it is essentially the same watch as the Longines but badged as Alpina. Whatever, you should check it out.
Love your reviews!
I must ask.. Is that an AP on your wrist sir?😀
Thank you. 😊
and yes.
Thank you for another excellent review. Question: I am interested in purchasing a Longines Ultra-Chron but do not have an AD that has the watch on site within a 2 hour drive of my home. This leaves me three options and I am curious what you would recommend and why. 1. I can order directly from the Longines site. 2. I can order from a large jeweler who is an AD. 3. I can go into a local branch of same large jeweler and order it there. Store manager told me they would have it shipped over from a branch that keeps the watch in stock. I get that working with an AD is probably good, but am I guaranteed to get a good watch if it is sent over from another store? Thanks.
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.
Depends. If you're in the EU or UK - Buy it online. You have 14 days to return it if you don't like it. Applies in the UK as well. If you can get an AD to bring it in but not commit until you've tried it, then go for it, but I would never suggest buying a watch outright without right of return if you haven't had it on your wrist. 😀
What’s your thoughts on the bronze version?
Good vid. Any idea when and if the green dial is coming?
Thanks - Nope. No insider information unfortunately 😊😊
Longines is a great watch brand, in its historical recreations and its totally new designs. For example, I own a retrograde moon phase that is hugely niche. Few are made because they are probably expensive to make and there is low demand. But in the shop where I bought one (at 20% discount), one of the family members who ran the shop already owned it. The design seems to have come from a group of friends who kept trying to one-up each other to make the most extravagant design that could be sold. I mean, a retrograde minutes display?!
Longines, despite its size and watch output, is full of personality.
The (microbrand) Traska Seafarer is something one should consider if you like the aesthetic but don’t want to spend over $1000.
Similar aesthetic for around $500-600 using a Miyota movement.
I own and adore the legend diver 39mm
As you should 😊
If you want the dive watch motif with the moveable outer bezel then the Longines design doesn't cut it. If you want a different type of diver design to time events for cooking or working out that also acts as a dress type of watch then the Longines works. One negative, unless I misunderstood, is you need to pull out the second crown to adjust the inner bezel. The other design cue which I don't like is the hands don't match.
It is a diver....desk diver and you can time your lunch break with the bezel. Seriously, I saw the JLC first and thr dial was amazing. Spending over $10k on a watch is not likely now tbough. I think if I got this Longines I would only be reminded it is not the JLC. I do like it though. Maybe after I see one in person but my next Longines will likely be a Spirit
Woah, are you wearing a Royal Oak? Congrats Mike!
Baltic makes a super compressor version too. Same size specs as this Legend diver. It could be an alternative as it’s 3 times less.
Would love this more in a brushed steel version
Great review and comparison to the competition. 39/40 is where the vendors are apparently all headed, rightfully. Sometimes it’s nice to throw on a 42 for a little more presence. That is a very handsome watch. But pricing… maybe a bit optimistic on their part. I think $2500 would have been more appropriate.
PS - the empty bookcase - I thought you got robbed. Was hoping your watches were well hidden.
Thanks - Lol 😂😂
Very appealing but with the COSC rated movement it's 30% more expensive than the 36 and 42. I'd take a less accurate movement, for lower price.
I like it, although I like having a date complication, I will agree that no date watches always look better.
wonder if you need to dry your hands every time before rotate the bezel?
Good question. My hands were dry at the AD, So I do not know 😊
My ideal version would be 39mm, fume dial, date at 3, on the fly clasp. Others would want none of that, which is fine.
The Legend Diver is also a Bond watch, worn by one of the villains in Skyfall.
You should fill your shelf with miniature scale models of other shelves.
This is an idea I like 😂😂
Longines, where s the mther white pearl 39 mm + milanese bracelet? Tks fot the vid, man.
What an excelent review and presentation. New subscriber.
Thanks and welcome 😊
think this can be pulled off as dress watch too on a suit?
Absolutely 😃
Looks good but tough choice over the better specced cheaper (and still a looker) traska venturer gmt.
I would much rather eat, drink, and chat watches with Daddy Bear personally, but you Goldilocks guys fill yer boots 😉
I was very intrigued by this release until Max from watch crunch said that compared to the black bay the Longines feels like a Seiko
Yeah... I'm not so sure I agree with him. Tudor does have finishing edge but not by much 😊
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch Good to know thanks
I have the LLD in 36mm and the BB58. Comparable quality.
God, I love that empty bookcase.....
We all do .😊
I love the legend diver. I have the 42mm…for me the 39mm looks too small. I’d like to put the new bracelet on my 42mm.
I have the 42mm date, I think I would prefer the 39 but I can’t justify to myself buying the same watch twice. I could try and sell mine at a loss and then buy the new one at its higher price point but the feeling wouldn’t be great.
Right now unless a watch trades very close to retail preowned or over. Even if I’m buying with an AD in the UK I won’t buy anything unless it’s 25 - 50% off the rrp. Either as vouchers / gifts or money off. The watch market is seriously struggling whilst brands are increasing prices. If you are in the UK be patient and you will get the watches you want at the correct price outside of a few very hyped ones.
"Automatic" is not a serif, it's a script typeface. Good luck on growing the channel!
Thanks - Also for the clarification. I'm an Arial man all the way.. That and windings... 😂
Off-topic: Hvor er din henley fra? super lækker!
Tak 😀
Den er fra Belstaff. Ved ikke om de laver den mere, men de har mange fede ting og god kvali
Belstaff 😀
Zulu time and now legend diver. Longines has been a sleeper for me but now they have my undivided attention; Tudor takes a step back to second position in my mind...
Both are excellent watches. I wouldn’t even mind the price being closer to Tudor with some minor refinements
This timepiece has incredible design. But to give almost 4k for improved ETA-2892, it is too expensive.
Nothing wrong with the ETA2892 with 70hrs of power reserve and a silicone hairspring , cosc. I love the 2892, slim, robust, deadly accurate, the best winding of any mass produced movement
How can you review a watch without having it in hand?
Fair question. As I state completely explicitly in the video - I reviewed it based on my experience wearing it at the ad. It's not a week on the wrist, but I feel I have enough of a feel for it to make a qualified statement. Any video that is in the "Reviews" playlist is a watch I have had in physically in my own hand at an AD, through a friend or in some other context.
Some day, perhaps brands will see fit to send me watches as well. I have no doubt that many would love some more interesting b-roll than what I usually dish up with. Until then, I'll make do with stock b-roll.
Cheers 😃
I just don't get an internal bezel on a dive (snorkelling) watch. Surely it's a complication with a much simpler answer: i.e. an external bezel, much more usable with cold wet soft (or gloved) fingers? All very good for the desk divers, I suppose, so rough edges don't ladder their stockings.
I guess you have to go back to the 60’s and explain that to those who came up with the design…
@@gori277 I think the compressor system came first because accurately sized gaskets / o-rings weren't sufficiently developed. Principally to do with available synthetic materials. What though that has to do with internal bezels, I'm not sure. I just know that internal bezels are impractical in the water.
@JohnMcKelvie maybe, if you're actually setting your watch in the water (not likely). If I was actually using my bezel to time my dive I'd prefer to set it at the start and not be fearful of knocking an external bezel. All this is quite academic as no one's used watches to time dives for more than 30 years (back when I got my diving cert), these are tributes to heritage, craftsmanship, and design more likely to time boling an egg than dives.
@@gori277 yes, better for eggs. Whilst I use a Shearwater dive computer to supplement / backup my AP rebreather's handset, I do use a bezel dive watch on penetrations into wrecks or sea caves for timing for horizontal distance. There's one in the Poor Knights marine reserve here in NZ which goes in some 50m to a fresh water spring. At depth, whether on trimix or just air diluent, brain-fog due to narcosis is insidious (especially with buoyancy and vision issues in a fresh-salt water mix in complete blackness with torches), so a bezel visually just showing the penetration time is simple and important. Getting to and finding the entrance can be a mission in itself, so the bezel has to be set underwater. 15 mins in with no vertical escape, so 15 mins out, with a separate quick mental calc. en route re. gas reserves in case of bailout.
Once I lost contact with a buddy in a wreck due to silt, so I used the bezel to time 10 mins of just waiting in the gloom to see whether the silt thinned and to see which passageway he'd gone down and whether he was coming back, or whether (after a pre-agreed separation time) we'd find our own ways out. Setting a separate timer on a capable dive computer is possible but it's a faff remembering the menu-button sequence, and then you have to remember to turn it off, and not stuff any of the main functions of that computer especially deco. (With 2 computers, we always use the most conservative deco sequence). Remembering and marking time from the dive computer clock can be surprising difficult. The dive watch is just being used for one simple visual task, so that aspect at least is not preying on your mind in what can be a stressful situation. What I'm saying is that the external bezel remains useful because it's deployed with gloved hands under water.
The bezel just dominates, making the actual dial looking too small for the case, IMO
Fair enough - To each their own 😊
AP Nice!
I know what's up!! You don't have any books in the bookshelf because you had to sell them in order to buy the AP! 😄
Lol. It's just a green screen - I actually love under a highway overpass - Had to sell the actual house for the watch 😂😂
I think every major brand should make available 39 and 40 mm versions.
But for a few inzone dervish out there ostentatious has become a bit reeky.
The Christopher Ward C65 Super Compressor is a worthy alternative.
And a real compressor watch , not just a watch with 2 crowns. The LLD is not a compressor Dive watch
I will try to do my best since my first language is French. With all due respect, why should I even consider subscibing to this channel when I see what is on your wrist, knowing also some of what is in your watchbox. Many watch enthousiasts like myself are reasonably well educated people working in low middle class fields of work, like public service for exemple. Even if we are in this hobby for almost 10 years now, it is impossible for us to bye what you are flexing. My hobby could be playing piano and I wouldn't expect making money out of it. I'm glad that yours at the moment is creating content on this topic. I just say do it for yourself and stop asking from us to subscribe. Don't worry, I won't miss any of your content if it interest me, I know where to find your channel. Finally, I find your angle when diving into the subject of watches to be very interesting most of the time. Thank you.
Je crois que tu tes trompes sur Mike… je continue en Anglais qui aussi n’est pas ma première langue mais plus facile que mon très rouillé français: I’ve been watching this channel for quite a few months and, even though I’ve had some difference in opinions, I’ve never noticed any “flex” or even pandering for clicks. From my impression Mike has obviously had/has quite a successful career in the corporate area and that actually allows him to offer quite an interesting perspective from the business side of things, opinions that I’ve found quite independent, much more than other channels that are obviously more compromised as they’re interested parties in the business. To me, it looks like he doesn’t really need the channel to make his earnings and it seems truly more an outlet to express himself and share his views as a watch enthusiast, there’s not an obvious line of reviews or videos of mostly popular watches in order to suit the algorithms, some of the videos are actually quite corporate/ marketing nerdy and not the obvious choice if you’re looking to grow your channel massively. Just my impressions as someone who’s only been following for 4-6 months and probably had the same initial impression as you but gave the channel the benefit of doubt, rummaged through past videos and changed my mind. All the best to you monsieur.
Call me picky, but the fact that you need to unscrew the crown every time you want to rotate the bezel is a deal breaker for me.
I love.mine
Wait for a titanium (grade V) version of 39mm legend diver...
Great, now give me this LLD with a burgundy dial and nylon strap same as the 36mm and I'm getting it.
It’s the Legend Diver Longines should have released in the first place, although in 2024 it really should have an on-the-fly adjustment (and I’m one of those who can’t cope without a date function 😅)…but the SRP has doubled in a very short space of time compared to earlier releases now hitting £3,150 for this model. Ouch. Longines was alot cheaper than Tudor only a few years ago. 😢
Also I feel Longines overall design aesthetic is a little too ‘shiny’, a bit too Miami bar stool for me.
Agree, the price of this is a stinger. It's unjustifiable. I'd feel short changed. It's gotta be sub £2k.