What's actually happened to Liverpool?

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    Liverpool have had a very strange start to the season.
    Despite wins against reining Premier League champions Man City and an undefeated Napoli in the Champions League, they've also suffered loses against struggling sides like Nottingham Forest and Leeds.
    Jurgen Klopp's side are lacking the intensity they once had, looking like a completely different side to the team that has run riot for the past 5 years. So what's going wrong at Anfield?
    JJ Bull looks at what the problems are for Liverpool and how they could be fixed.
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  • @enthusiastofcute
    @enthusiastofcute ปีที่แล้ว +485

    Their midfield really needs a revamp, their defensive and offensive issues are exacerbated because of the decline of the work rate of the midfield

    • @Blurifying
      @Blurifying ปีที่แล้ว +65

      midfield has needed a revamp for like two years but it’s always “next summer” or “keïta and ox are back” or “we’re saving up for bellingham”

    • @enthusiastofcute
      @enthusiastofcute ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Blurifying true, relying on guys like ox (injury prone) for squad depth has caught up to them. The players aren’t getting any younger and their style demands constant pressure

    • @HenSt-gz7qj
      @HenSt-gz7qj ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Fabinho also been bad the past 2 seasons and the aging Henderson won't be able to save them for long either.
      with both full back so aggressive, maybe a back 3 would be better for them (they'd need to sign at least 2 CB, a left footed CB would be nice so VVD can play centrally).

    • @enthusiastofcute
      @enthusiastofcute ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@stnbch3025 maybe, but it would mitigate the problem

    • @MountRushCollymore
      @MountRushCollymore ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It¡s not their work rate, it's their capability. it comes with age and years of running yourself into the ground.

  • @alvinvurayai2936
    @alvinvurayai2936 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Mane was a pressing machine, and very vital to their pressing and its gonna be hard for liverpool to get their pressing intensity back.

  • @gaminggiant6930
    @gaminggiant6930 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    JJ bull is my favorite man

    • @BigDeyum
      @BigDeyum ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sus🧐📷

    • @hamster4810
      @hamster4810 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Do you mean
      JJ Bull is my favourite man or JJ Bull is my favourite, man

    • @kamarikucheza
      @kamarikucheza ปีที่แล้ว +3

      he's so good. 😩

    • @316leggedtexasrattlesnake8
      @316leggedtexasrattlesnake8 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kamarikucheza bro??

    • @cynshie7620
      @cynshie7620 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@hamster4810 both

  • @fuzzyhair321
    @fuzzyhair321 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Last season took a toll on many teams. West ham to Leicester and even Chelsea

    • @bigredxxx
      @bigredxxx ปีที่แล้ว +2

      didnt take a toll on Arsenal and man city

    • @I_am_nooh
      @I_am_nooh ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They reinforced their non-ageing squad.

    • @liverbot4854
      @liverbot4854 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@bigredxxx Arsenal have a very youthful squad and City are well-known for buying many players every season.

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@bigredxxx arsenal who had no European football?

    • @elephantwater9929
      @elephantwater9929 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@liverbot4854 *whilst having a lower net spend than the rest of the top 6. you mentioned it in 2018, so we can now :)

  • @km3455
    @km3455 ปีที่แล้ว +667

    They can’t blame injuries when the club failed to address the injury prone & aging squad. Why keep the likes of Keita, Chamberlain, Matip, Gomez, Milner, yes even Thiago(who’s excellent but injury prone). The tactics have been found out by other teams & L’pool really have no plan B, as much as Klopp says otherwise. Not sure if it’s FSG being tight with the purse strings or Klopp being stubborn & insisting that his squad is fine. They even got Arthur Melo, an injury prone player to cover already injured players, who’s currently out injured himself. Brilliant.

    • @P0UTY1
      @P0UTY1 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      It's a concoction of everything you said

    • @prabhatsingh7577
      @prabhatsingh7577 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      They really hit the jackpot with Artur Mello and they sold takumi minamino , he was never given time to really settle , always on bench dude wld have lit up pl if given consicutive starts

    • @shovitchettri8749
      @shovitchettri8749 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Klopp first agenda in Liverpool has become his lame excuses after deteriorating performances !!

    • @chaupiamarighambi5859
      @chaupiamarighambi5859 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nothing to do with tactics mate👍

    • @youcantcme2
      @youcantcme2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      What did Matip do wrong? He's actually one of the better players. Also that's an excessive amount of players to remove, just unrealistic.

  • @MountRushCollymore
    @MountRushCollymore ปีที่แล้ว +108

    One point, when you built your game for years on running and dynamism, your players are going to wear out more quickly and you are going to get more injuries than teams that press and run less. So I don't think it is mere bad luck that we have so many injuries. If anything it highlights an even more important need for style change OR personnel change to keep fresh legs in the squad.

    • @brucelee7782
      @brucelee7782 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      exactly. You keep pressing year after year at such a high intensity it's not sustainable

    • @NotSoLiberal
      @NotSoLiberal ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ManCity want to have a word with you

    • @MountRushCollymore
      @MountRushCollymore ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@NotSoLiberal what do they have to do with anything

    • @farhadchaudhry
      @farhadchaudhry ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That's where squad rotation comes in. You can do it but you need 2 XIs which are as good as each other, swapping in and out. With quality youth players who are fit, able to take some matches against weaker teams or as injury cover.
      Liverpool don't have that. Only City do to that extent.

    • @NotSoLiberal
      @NotSoLiberal ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MountRushCollymore they play with intensity without crying about it

  • @JR-sj1jz
    @JR-sj1jz ปีที่แล้ว +121

    One thing those data lines confirm is that the problems they are facing actually started long before this season so it's not as simple a case of they sold this player or this season's injuries that are to blame.
    I am probably in the minority here but I believed last season especially for the 2nd half, Alisson had a good shout to be Liverpool's player of the season. He was making far too many one-on-one saves. He played as big a role in helping Liverpool challenge for the title. The Spurs game in particular, if not for Ali that could have been another 7-2! I know Klopp would say it's part of how they play in terms of risk but I've never seen them that open.
    Which makes me wonder, I assume their analysts have access to the same data and more. How come they didn't pick up on this and insist on new additions in midfield in particular.

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The offside trap was just that aggressive, this season Alisson is hardly being put into 1v1 situations for it to be a continuation

    • @cjewe1z
      @cjewe1z ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The analysts most likely did pick up on it. But, the analysts are not the ones who hold the purse strings. FSG are.

    • @KloppMichaelBarnes
      @KloppMichaelBarnes ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Absolutely spot on. With Konate they could play very aggressively and very high, something which is impossible without the protection of a fit Fabinho. The Liverpool coaches knew about the lack of midfield depth but were foolishly banking on Keita, Jones being fit! My sources say that they also hoped that Firmino would be dropping in as a '10'. They had already thought about transitioning the shape to a lopsided 4-2-3-1 with Alcantara playing a bit deeper. It was never the plan this season for all of the old midfielders to be playing. However, Klopp never intended for both Carvalho & Elliott to be in the same XI. Ultimately, FSG were not prepared to open their chequebook any further... It will very likely cost them a Champions League place next season.

    • @JR-sj1jz
      @JR-sj1jz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KloppMichaelBarnes When they got Nunez, I agree I also thought it would 4-2-3-1. I also felt they would need one more midfielder who can fill in for Thiago because Keita aside nobody even comes to offering those kind of skills. And the other guys like Hendo, Oxlade and Jones don't seem to be midfielders who can play as a part of a two.
      So I was puzzled they didn't get a midfielder before preseason. I was even more confused when they chose to ignore the midfield after Thiago, Jones, Oxlade and Keita got injured. I get FSG not loosening the purse strings but their financial model is based on qualifying for the champions league. So if that gets compromised because they wanted to save a few million, that would be a very bad look. Do also feel pity for youngsters like Jones. Being asked to play multiple roles without being given time to at least master one

    • @hungjaketranquang4365
      @hungjaketranquang4365 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s FSG and Klopp. Some said Klopp has too much faith, too fond with his players.

  • @thrilla72
    @thrilla72 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Mané's pressure from the front was vital in protecting the midfield and in turn the full backs

  • @NikozBG
    @NikozBG ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I honestly believe that change to 3-4-3 system is a way better solution than what Klopp's doing at the moment. Robertson and TAA playing as wing-backs will suit them better and having 3 center-backs will greatly help with the compactness of the defence in transitional moments.

    • @karmaascendant3936
      @karmaascendant3936 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      They literally don’t have enough CBs to do a 3-4-3. They acquire and hold onto too many injury prone players and so it’s caught up to them again this season. They’ve held onto the likes of Keita Ox and keep bringing in injury prone players like Konate who aren’t available for long periods or aren’t good enough to start or change anything even if they were.

    • @htc8288
      @htc8288 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      But would it be the case that a 343 system requires even more pressing? And also 343 always doesn't work out against low blocks

    • @iangascoigne8231
      @iangascoigne8231 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It will make for the fact they can’t defend if their lives depend on it. Though since Klopp is supposed to be in the top 3 coaches in the world, surely he should be able to teach them how to defend?

    • @zaidabraham7310
      @zaidabraham7310 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@iangascoigne8231 Are you suggesting that the team with the best defensive record over the last few seasons, doesn't know how to defend? If you actually watched the video, it's not as simple as "teaching them how to defend".
      There's loads of injuries, new players, aging midfield + confidence issues. And a very packed schedule of games.

    • @iangascoigne8231
      @iangascoigne8231 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zaidabraham7310 They’re not now are they? Trent and Roberson can’t defend to save their lives. They’ve been found out. Though where would we be without the Liverpool fans looking for something else to blame? Which Btw other teams have had to cope with.

  • @gbemigaajisegbede8473
    @gbemigaajisegbede8473 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    It’s simply a fatigue issue and failure to refresh the squad

    • @Emtrax.
      @Emtrax. ปีที่แล้ว +11

      So simple, you solved the problem, you should send them an email

  • @joedonnelly387
    @joedonnelly387 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    JJ Bull is an absolute gem on this channel. As a Liverpool fan, I checked the description first because I was hoping it was him covering it, and I wasn’t disappointed!

  • @barsbeatlife
    @barsbeatlife ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think it all stems from a dysfunctional midfield. Fabinho is awful now. Elliott is not a midfielder. Thiago is top class but can lack mobility. Henderson has been awful.
    We relied on our midfield being functional, energetic and smart. Now teams either counter us or press us (like we used to) and we fold. Or we just make stupid mistakes.

  • @hammadahmed8690
    @hammadahmed8690 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Quite obvious they didn't bolster their midfield during the transfer window, and injuries are making them suffer. Klopp should have learned from the CB crisis they faced in the previous years.

    • @miguelpereira9859
      @miguelpereira9859 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jürgen doesn't hold the keys to Liverpool's transfer business

    • @Ibrahim-nf6yh
      @Ibrahim-nf6yh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@miguelpereira9859If Man City and pep can sign Akanji for £15 M cuz he told the board that he needed a CB for more solidity and strengthen the defence then why couldn’t Liverpool sign Midfielders after that first game against Fulham or last summer. It’s not about the money anymore cuz Liverpool could easily have signed midfielders from Leicester for cheap or Akanji from Dortmund to help stable and improve their defence

  • @Soop0023
    @Soop0023 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    At 3:20 he mentioned that they won the league at the backend of the season during the title winning campaign, but liverpool had already wrapped up the league by then.

    • @znhait
      @znhait ปีที่แล้ว +16

      He most likely had it the wrong way around. Liverpool vastly overperformed during the first half of that season. They must have had 10 one-goal wins, a lot of them coming late on. Later on the season, starting with the Watford loss, Liverpool were quite poor.

    • @attila-man
      @attila-man ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, weren't they like far off by November?

    • @clegsmegson2627
      @clegsmegson2627 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your name is utterly insane - like a magic spell or something. Fair play boyo

    • @_prithvideep
      @_prithvideep ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Those charts are deceptive. Red means Liverpool performed below their xG/xG against. Meaning that in red periods they were "unlucky" or "less clinical" or "made more errors" than xG would suggest. In blue phases, they were "lucky" or "more clinical/ made fewer errors" since the results were better than xG would suggest.
      Back half of 19/20 we shouldn't have won as many but we did.

    • @ragniblov
      @ragniblov ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@clegsmegson2627 your name is Cleg Smegson

  • @This_is_Sibi
    @This_is_Sibi ปีที่แล้ว +6

    12:17 I would like to know when liverpool beat Man United this season

    • @kw8263
      @kw8263 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was talking about keeping up the intensity against Man United

  • @GuinessOriginal
    @GuinessOriginal ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Second cycling off period is always worse than the first

  • @sarahjessicafarter7383
    @sarahjessicafarter7383 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Recently bought a frog from JJ and can confirm he was jocular and friendly.

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal ปีที่แล้ว +32

      If you kiss him he’ll turn into a football analyst

    • @akujoeemeka2906
      @akujoeemeka2906 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GuinessOriginal 😂😂😂

  • @RichMitch
    @RichMitch ปีที่แล้ว +72

    He's lost the Klopp!

  • @DumbassPen
    @DumbassPen ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Man so many problems across the board. I guess I should be glad they're not doing worse, all things considered.

  • @brettduce5243
    @brettduce5243 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pretty well sums up what happened to Spurs under Pochettino (without the trophies of course). In the last 18 months the amount of pressing just cratered. I’m keen to see how they evolve - if they can evolve.

  • @brookcastellan8116
    @brookcastellan8116 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel like a 3-4-3 or 5-2-3 with Trent ticking in as he has this season could really cover some of those spaces between the center backs, albeit with fewer numbers in midfield.

  • @anthtan
    @anthtan ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is there a correlation between intensity (stats like number of presses) and injury rate? Are frequencies/amount of injuries measured in stats anywhere?

  • @Redonepunch
    @Redonepunch ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bet the short summer break and condensed schedule really doesn’t help a team that is totally dependent on intensity. I’m sure they’ll be back at some point in the near future, just need to refresh the squad a bit more.

  • @alihusainsadriwala6959
    @alihusainsadriwala6959 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nicely put! Waiting for your book 'How to watch football' to come out! :)

  • @bigwave7207
    @bigwave7207 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks again for a very insightful analysis. Really learned a lot here.

  • @TshepoThaela
    @TshepoThaela ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I came here curious and I've left informed. JJ Bull, you are a true football scholar. Thank you very much sir

  • @DANINJAPIGEON
    @DANINJAPIGEON ปีที่แล้ว +9

    what's actually happened to liverpool?
    -they sold origi

  • @TPW13
    @TPW13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How do you guys only have 283K subscribers, best football channel on youtube

  • @Shuvi279Error
    @Shuvi279Error ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the lack of divock & takumi

  • @jackbarton4938
    @jackbarton4938 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Alexander Arnold's defensive weaknesses are more than acceptable when he's assisting 15-20 goals a season and whipping in dozens of unbelievable crosses ever game, but he's not even doing that anymore.

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's more on the midfielders ahead, if he's consistently defending overloads than he'll look weak defensively

    • @nevilleachero8054
      @nevilleachero8054 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bri1085 If Liverpool kept more possession then the midfield wouldn't have to take on such a burden.

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nevilleachero8054 guess who's job it is to retain possession? Half the midfield would rather hide behind op players than receive it. And some try reinvent the 6 position and try attack the opposition box.

    • @babixillo
      @babixillo ปีที่แล้ว

      i miss the times when taa just leisurely cross to far post and sadio is always there to head it in

    • @zeybarur
      @zeybarur ปีที่แล้ว

      Trent is actually top of the league in successful passes into the opposition box and successful progressive passes in the opposition half this season, and by some margin.
      So his lack of assists may be more due to the front line underperforming

  • @dimarudnykh
    @dimarudnykh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love it, thanks JJ

  • @rashadmahbub6255
    @rashadmahbub6255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd like to add another thing. Vvd isn't the same after his acl injury

  • @elamingadim3724
    @elamingadim3724 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I’ve enjoyed something that you have said, thus I must sub!

  • @Come_walk_with_me614
    @Come_walk_with_me614 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's because Pep ljinders release a book on how to beat liverpool.

  • @jahvynriley8237
    @jahvynriley8237 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cant beleive ive been watching these videos for so long and not subscribed, genuinely thought i was

  • @giannismantzaris6956
    @giannismantzaris6956 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i suggest you make a video of what is going wrong at atletico madrid ! Keep up the fine work

  • @brucelee7782
    @brucelee7782 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean as a manager that relies on pressing you can't possibly keep motivating the players to press and press season after season. It just gets harder and harder to do each year. So they won a couple of trophies at the beginning and now they have to repeat it again and again it's just tiring and not possible

  • @kampinak
    @kampinak ปีที่แล้ว +1

    they are very much missing Henderson's ability to run around the whole pitch, pressing and winning the ball back, supporting Trent whenever the opposition tries to expose the space, now when he is older and struggling with fitness he just cant do it anymore...with Mane gone and them going for Nunez, a proper striker, who all credit to him is working pretty hard and even running back to the defense to help out, they dont have that many players with a lot of energy and pressing ability, the trio of Mane-Firmino-Salah was quite hard working mainly cause of Mane and Firmino, Salah was always the one who got a pass when it comes to defending, but now they got much more attacking players in their attack, so in order for that to work you need the midfield to compensate for it and they simply dont have that atm, somebody like Laimer would be perfect to bring in that energy and hard work, Caicedo would help, obviously Bellingham is a dream but cant just bet it all on him, Rice is a great option, they just gotta start spending and not relying on Klopp to wave his magic wand season after season

  • @gusrose14
    @gusrose14 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    People are always forgetting to mention the loss of Mane as a factor. He was their lead presser from the front.

    • @resolute7177
      @resolute7177 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      it was actually firmino

    • @JR-sj1jz
      @JR-sj1jz ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@haakonlehn7539 technically speaking based on the numbers it's Jota who is Liverpool's best in terms of pressing. If you look the tables shared, you can see the pressing numbers started falling from around game 20 of last season which was around end of December. That was probably due to a combination of factors. Mane and Salah left for Afcon and when they returned, Luis Diaz had joined. This forced Jota to play outwide a lot more. Before Diaz joined, Jota had been playing more games centrally.

    • @uestionbaby5798
      @uestionbaby5798 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, we don't forget about that, you are just keep mentioning it like it's the only reason to they poor performance, it's more than that

  • @TheThreatenedSwan
    @TheThreatenedSwan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If there's such variance from the expected goals vs actual, they need to reform the metric

  • @akshaypanwar4964
    @akshaypanwar4964 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rather than making a triangle in midfield , they should put Fabinho in middle and split the CB pairing , compensating for the full backs bombing forward .
    Then have a flat 4 in front of the 3 , giving a block which can act as a barrier leaving not much space for counter.

  • @MrJohnnyorange
    @MrJohnnyorange ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm a Leeds fan, and while I agree with everything you are saying, I still think that with the players Liverpool has available, they should not be losing to the likes of Leeds under Jessie Marsch, and other teams who have nothing LIKE the quality players that Liverpool have, even with all their injuries.

    • @Roscoe.P.Coldchain
      @Roscoe.P.Coldchain ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes but wasn’t it a beautiful feeling to win at anfield

    • @ciciuk3695
      @ciciuk3695 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah, but you gotta take into account that Liverpool also plays in the Champions League. AND that they've been playing their high intensity-high press style of football for ages, now, and always competing both in England and Europe (last year they reached the finals in the Carabao Cup, the FA Cup and the Champions League, actually meaning they played EVERY SINGLE GAME available). It's only normal that what they do ends up being more tiring then what other teams do, and that makes their players easily prone to injuries, and wears out rapidly the ones playing too.
      If you're tired it's hard to keep up the pressing or cover back in defense running. Injuries are actually quite devastating for them, because yeah, they can still pull up a good starting XI, but without any rotation in that, and by having the same 11-13 players always playing twice a week, it gets to be exhausting really fast.

    • @fnregistration
      @fnregistration ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think they can't sustain their intensity so they need to be motivated by their opponent. They can still show up against Man City, for example

    • @MrJohnnyorange
      @MrJohnnyorange ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ciciuk3695 The way Leeds play is exausting too! But if all the small teams have learned to play through, or better still, over their press, why do the big teams have problems?

    • @MrJohnnyorange
      @MrJohnnyorange ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't believe that motivation is a problem with Klopp as manager.

  • @SantomPh
    @SantomPh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The gap essentially turns them into a long ball team, which doesn't really suit most of the players

  • @abhikalpshekhar
    @abhikalpshekhar ปีที่แล้ว +10

    i think their real struggles are against teams who sit back and counter , against teams that play possesion based football , they've been good generally

    • @moch.farisdzulfiqar6123
      @moch.farisdzulfiqar6123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      in other word, most mid to low table teams with mediocre players.

    • @abhishekt6775
      @abhishekt6775 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good observation but that's not the case in UCL

  • @josephmorgan8101
    @josephmorgan8101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the T-shirt! Any idea where I can get one?

    • @mop3836
      @mop3836 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably in France mate.

    • @jondavies011988
      @jondavies011988 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      my mum probably has mine somewhere, if you fit large boys?

  • @joseph20yearsago61
    @joseph20yearsago61 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wait didn't United beat Liverpool?

  • @hammadahmed8690
    @hammadahmed8690 ปีที่แล้ว

    THIS VIDEO @0:14 made me chuckle

  • @asgharasad8031
    @asgharasad8031 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing analysis.

  • @ShawnMSwartz
    @ShawnMSwartz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not an LFC fan but here’s my $0.02: FSG is ruining the club. Klopp does so well every season, always competing with City and winning trophies, but he does not get nearly as much as clubs like United, Chelsea, and City get to. LFC is a rich team because of Klopp. FSG simply take the money for themselves or for their other sports teams.
    And I know they spent £85M (rising to £100M) on Nuñez, but that team needs a few more players to compete as they do not have the squad depth to consistently challenge for trophies

  • @andrewomahony9260
    @andrewomahony9260 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This page can make a video about why United's tactics were "bad", 10 seconds after the game ends, but why has it taken almost half a season to point out what everyone knew after the first game of the season?

  • @mustafaabdulsahib9317
    @mustafaabdulsahib9317 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    trying for every competition last season despite lack of depth to rotate then not fixing the midfield before this season start ment playing with the same exhausted injury prone old players

  • @jackrichardson288
    @jackrichardson288 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Poor ownership leaving the squad to rot, not improving key areas for years, recruitment is awful now and Klopp is slowly losing the plot.

  • @wilsonathleticscoaching
    @wilsonathleticscoaching ปีที่แล้ว

    While I agree with some of the observations, what is being missed is that Liverpool had a huge season in 21-22 where they competed in every competition to the last day. It is more likely that they are having a psychological dip due to last season which is impacting on the normal high levels of performance.

  • @bigkevonbass
    @bigkevonbass ปีที่แล้ว

    It's fatigue. They played every game possible last year and had no real break as the season started earlier because FIFA decided to give the world cup to a nation where summer temps are 40°+
    Fatigued players get injured more too.

  • @gratefulkm
    @gratefulkm ปีที่แล้ว

    Thiago just announced players have been holding themselves back,
    Thier Focus has been not getting injured World Cup CL, then premier league last

  • @pieceofgosa
    @pieceofgosa ปีที่แล้ว

    Only team I've ever seen that was able to be really successful & win loads of titles, while still keeping up the same levels of intensity that won them those titles, was Alex Ferguson's Man Utd teams & even he had to rebuild that squad about 3 or 4 times. It's the main reason Jose Mourinho struggles to have long-term success at a club. He tends to use a very small squad & he asks his players to play with complete commitment & intensity. Now it's possible to maintain that level for one, or maybe two seasons but after that there is always a natural drop-off. Players simply become burnt-out by the physical & mental effort required to operate at that sort of level of intensity for extended periods of time.

  • @JasonRennie
    @JasonRennie ปีที่แล้ว

    Is red bad in the goals conceded chart? From what I could read, it seemed like the opposite was true (blue means that they're allowing more goals than xG; read means allowing less than xG). But, maybe I'm reading wrong...

  • @__james__
    @__james__ ปีที่แล้ว

    JJ's t-shirts are always on point, need a video on where he gets them all

  • @siempra78
    @siempra78 ปีที่แล้ว

    The combined age and injury record of Fabinho, Milner and Thiago is the crux of the problem who are backed up by an even more injury prone trio of Jones, Keita and Ox. LFC do not have a box-to-box midfielder who can play a combo of gegenpressen AND 433.

  • @KingNazzario
    @KingNazzario ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you think about our best 11, it's Alisson, Arnold, Konate, Van dijk, robertson, Henderson, Fabinho, Thiago, Salah, Nunez (or Firmino) and Diaz. All our miedfilder are injury prones, and the replacements too: Keita, Ox, Jones, Milner...Arthur...the only player who can play free is Elliott. In defence, Konate is a good player but often injured, Matip the same, Gomez isn't at the level of those two and always injured. Diaz is an amazing player, now injured, and Jota, his replacement, is injured. We need less injured prone players, maybe even not as strong as Matip, Jota or Keita, but players who can actually play.

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 ปีที่แล้ว

      Henderson isn't in the best Liverpool xi, and hasn't been since at least 2020.

  • @redmate_
    @redmate_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Liverpool appear to be in a transition period however can still get results in the champions league but struggle in the prem. have done so for years until recently. we make content too and have touched on similar things

  • @kencombine1694
    @kencombine1694 ปีที่แล้ว

    I subbed to the Athletic for JJ

  • @Eoin1
    @Eoin1 ปีที่แล้ว

    For as long as Liverpool have been performing really well, their team has been pretty fixed. The first 11 are really strong, but Klopp doesn't seem to like rotating players. When it works, it works really well, and you have a trophy winning season, but when injuries happen, and you have a condensed fixture list, it doesn't bode well.

  • @liquidsnake6879
    @liquidsnake6879 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They can't do it without a lot of transfers, been saying it for a while Liverpool needs more players

  • @pliskin1231
    @pliskin1231 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the age profile thing is a bit nonsensical. You've got Alisson counting as a player past his peak for example. 30 is not even close to past it for keepers. Same with players like Salah, the condition he is in you know he'll be playing top level well into his 30's. With modern sports sci and nutrition, the goal posts for a players peak have to have moved to 25-33 surely? Also like there's nothing wrong with young players being key either right? When we won the cl TAA was as key as anyone. Anyway great vid, just found that part to be slightly selective! 👍

    • @qBodi
      @qBodi ปีที่แล้ว

      nowadays salah plays too bland, team needs an actual CAM and trent fking sucks in defence, vvd starts to declain and they dont have other brilliant CB, mane left cuz salah was favorised, i would ve rather sell salah instead of mane, get nunez and you have something new in attack, and better than the front with salah who ain t that much without trent's passes

  • @harrybellingham98
    @harrybellingham98 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    why isnt TAA just played in MF? That's where he spends most of his time and pressing the defenders in the final 3rd

  • @menelikrusso3218
    @menelikrusso3218 ปีที่แล้ว

    a back 3 is the solution in my opinion.. that would cover the space behind the fullbacks

  • @liampeel3630
    @liampeel3630 ปีที่แล้ว

    If your phone is in upright position when you pause the video while the pitch map is on, the play button fits perfectly in the centre circle

  • @janmiranda528
    @janmiranda528 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a liverpool fan and I think it's pretty stupid of liverpool to not catch up to their opponents catching up the play they've been following the past 2 years in the least. Trent isn't performing well now because his tactics have become too predictable, and I've noticed he's not able to put in any crosses as much anymore, it's always blocked because it's too low.

  • @d1want34
    @d1want34 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the data exist from 2007-2011? I would like to see these graphs about Manchester United from 2008 - 2011 when they were dominating England and went to 3 UCL final in 4 seasons

  • @vladbejinariu8023
    @vladbejinariu8023 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your hair looks really nice in this video, JJ!

  • @Arejen03
    @Arejen03 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    idk but they should sign a right back and move AA to CM position he plays as a CM anyway and the right stays exposed :D. Feels also that the main players after few years of winning got washed up.

  • @Arthurvanwinkle69
    @Arthurvanwinkle69 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:52 that was the year liverpool's entire defence was wiped out by injuries, hence the dip

  • @NphiniT
    @NphiniT ปีที่แล้ว

    Previous video (that I watched) he wore Zidane's jersey from France 98. This video he's wearing France 98. My older brother said there hasn't been a better world cup since then. Is that true or it's just nostalgia on his part LOL

  • @WS49
    @WS49 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Boys are tired. Gegen pressing and maxing out for 4 years. Boys will be back after a bit of rest

  • @markward3184
    @markward3184 ปีที่แล้ว

    Klopp had the same issue at Dortmund he is now having at Liverpool. The insistent counter pressing from the forward players and aggressive positioning of full backs who are expected to track back I'd extremely demanding on players.
    I honestly believe that in the long term Klopp football is not sustainable for players over the course of 50 games season upon season.
    Perhaps for one or two season players can operate at the level but after two seasons, as players age or develop, they can't be expected to continue to press in the same way.

  • @nihartaksande4501
    @nihartaksande4501 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you discuss Tottenham post Conte there are not a lot of managers who play Conte style of football and the ones that do would not be a big name and hence no patience for the style of football they would play.
    But the real problem starts when they bring a different system manager,they are overstocked with fullback/wingbacks that probably no other team would like to buy there is no creativity in midfield, Kane and son would probably like to move on after Conte,Kane probably for free or cheaper than 100mn if they try to sell next summer. The restructure would be too big and expensive as creative and forward player come at premium price.They need Conte to stay for them to be anywhere near top 6.

  • @clivet3252
    @clivet3252 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect name for this channel.

  • @fpl_cricket
    @fpl_cricket ปีที่แล้ว

    I think their biggest issue has been locker room chemistry. I think things broke down between Salah and Mane -- which, how could it not when they had to face each other in two consecutive continental finals under the circumstances that they did? Klopp stating before the season that City had already won the title didn't help things either. JJ mentioned "lack of cohesion" and I think those issues are extending far beyond what's happening on the pitch.

  • @xyush4025
    @xyush4025 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    An important aspect you didn't mention is the lack of coaching time this season With the changes due to transfers and then through injuries, the style of play has clearly been affected but at the same time the coaching team cannot sort it out on the training pitch because they're playing every 3-4 days. Therefore, the WC break is crucial for Liverpool as it would give them that training time while also serving as a rest period for some of the players to get their fitness/intensity levels back up hopefully.

    • @MemesOfProduction69
      @MemesOfProduction69 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      United have been able start installing a new system and have changed how they play. This is a pitiful excuse.

    • @xyush4025
      @xyush4025 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MemesOfProduction69 United haven't had much injuries to deal with. They are doing better than before but not as good as the results suggest, expect them to cool down soon imo.

    • @Adam-xe5xm
      @Adam-xe5xm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xyush4025 I wouldnt be surprised if United push on and secure a comfortable top 4 spot this season. Looking at their squad and the potential moving parts a small investment in January up front and a back up RB and they should be good to go till summer.
      Liverpool on the other hand could be 2-3 summer windows away from fixing the mess that is their squad if they stick to their current spending tendencies. Ill be honest and admit i thought it would fall apart last season, I was a tad early in my prediction. Nearly every key contributor is over 30 and they have a collection of injury prone players they are relying on. On top of that they rather bizarrely chose to invest a significant portion of their summer budget on a forward who, while he may turn into a world class player, is nothing close to the profile of CF that has worked for them in the past. 2 inside forwards who want to cut in and shoot and a target man with (at least right now) poor link up play was never going to make a cohesive attacking line. It appears (based on what im reading online) that a lot of Liverpool fans are pinning their hopes on Bellingham in the summer. There is a 100% chance that between Man City, Madrid, United and Chelsea that Liverpool, who may not even have UCL football as an attraction, will get priced out of that move on both wages and transfer fee. Thats before we address the fact that a 130m midfielder does not fix the underlying lack of squad depth that cant be fixed if the whole budget goes on one player.

    • @xyush4025
      @xyush4025 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Adam-xe5xm thing is that United are currently averaging 2ppg that assuredly is top 4 form but that has also been exceedingly difficult to achieve in the PL recently. If Ten Haag manages to finish around 75 points in his first season that would be a helluva achievement but I don't think it's likely. Ofc he could finish on 60 something and still get top 4.

    • @xyush4025
      @xyush4025 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Adam-xe5xm on the transfers aspect - on Utd side I really wouldn't be too optimistic given their track record and yes they keep saying we're finally gonna get it right but I'll believe it when I see it
      On Liverpool, yes it has been tough coz the owners have refused to invest in the squad since the pandemic. There's never been anything concrete on Bellingham actually but the interest in Tchouameni was 100% real so would the club have bought both Tchou and Nunez? It's impossible to say therefore it's impossible to understand where exactly does the ownership stand now. On being reliant on injury-prone players, I think only Thiago is integral to the first xi, however I do understand it is a big problem that 3 of your midfield options are crocks.

  • @alone2break
    @alone2break ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, we've seen it from 2 seasons ago that this midfield is going down.. they need to spend 200mil for the midfield and fsg knows that the team is at the end of an era and opted to sell.. coincidence? I think not..

  • @peacelove8395
    @peacelove8395 ปีที่แล้ว

    didn't you do a video just like this on Liverpool a few weeks ago?

  • @Alfredsson14
    @Alfredsson14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Renovate and increasing wages of the players of 2019 Champions League and 2020 Premier League ( most for just reconossance to what they achieved). But....time goes by..... We are in 2022/2023....the same about the manager. Need a deep general refreshment. It's very important to build a winning squad ( klopp did!!!) even more important is to plan a squad renovation during 2/3 years...( that wasn't done)

  • @molaioatsepo2420
    @molaioatsepo2420 ปีที่แล้ว

    ... when did yaya's shirt come down?

  • @Hyde_Hill
    @Hyde_Hill ปีที่แล้ว

    If they can get Sergio Milenkovic Savic and/or Bellingham in the summer and solve the injuries it should come good. Especially if finally find that partner for Van Dijk.

  • @MichaelCronan49
    @MichaelCronan49 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Klopp needs to be questioned for not updating his tactics properly until only this year. You cant keep thr same players and/or system for over 4 seasons without other cosches adapting

  • @alexcoyg3281
    @alexcoyg3281 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It seems like its so many factors, from injuries to Nunez simply being unable to see when to pass and when to shoot, it will take sometime to get the team working again but i think if there is a coach who can make a team be great again it is Klopp

    • @NikkoNikko98
      @NikkoNikko98 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice pfp, coyg 🔥

    • @SASMADBRUV7
      @SASMADBRUV7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm sorry but Nunez is not a a reason for our issues. It was one game against city where he didn't pass. That was it

    • @alexcoyg3281
      @alexcoyg3281 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SASMADBRUV7 he is part of the issue, from the top of my head i can count at least 3 times i saw him not giving a pass for a great opportunity and then wasting it, he is part of the issue, obviously not the only one, we know if it was Mane, those chances would be most likely scored

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexcoyg3281 at least 2 of those instances happened in the same game which was a win

    • @alexcoyg3281
      @alexcoyg3281 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bri1085 Very True

  • @chaoSefat
    @chaoSefat ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did you move Toure Yaya shirt from the wall?

  • @yourguy382
    @yourguy382 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nothing to do with Mane, except that he was rarely injured.

  • @nevilleachero8054
    @nevilleachero8054 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you talk about Liverpool's failure to keep possession of the ball? Teams are now playing with a tiki-taka style and they are able to remain poised when under pressure.

  • @LordWay
    @LordWay ปีที่แล้ว

    midfield had been a problem for a while and thiago not withstanding their signings in that area haven't been up to standard for a while.

  • @jarretc110
    @jarretc110 ปีที่แล้ว

    alexander arnold is the common denominator yet jj is unwilling to say players are bad at certain things. in alexander arnold's case, it's defending and having tactical awareness. if he's constantly out of position and not covering the spaces he's supposed to, then he's not good at the task assigned to him. he's a bad defender.

  • @cojocarucosmin202
    @cojocarucosmin202 ปีที่แล้ว

    How exactly low ppda means low pressure?

  • @ehiremeiyore4452
    @ehiremeiyore4452 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would be interesting to see whether Tifo team sees any viability in a more possession based Liverpool team with Trent Alexander Arnold as a regista?

  • @yoditan
    @yoditan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think everyone is aware we cant spend as much as certain clubs but we all should be expecting investment that align with our needs. We have needed a midfielder for some time now and still haven't got one before Thiago, Keita was the last senior midfielder we bought. We have been fortunate that most of our signings have been good due to good recruitment but the market has changed so we need to adjust. For a club that's finished in the top 4 for 6 out of the 7 years Klopp has been there we sure didn't spend like we want to stay there Fabinho looks exhausted and Keita and Ox should have been sold to get some money and invest.

  • @doesnotexist305
    @doesnotexist305 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s really unfair. The players are worn out from all that intensity for all those years. Only 1 league, 1 champions league and the two domestic cups to show for it. Rounded off by the super cups of course. The UEFA Super Cup, a community shield and a Club World Cup. They won the set. But I don’t think I’m being selfish or ungrateful when I say that they deserve more. 2 leagues lost on the final day. That City-Villa game hurts more than the Champions League final loss. 2 Champions League finals lost and a Europa League final loss. The UEL was at the very beginning of course but still. All that running and pressing and elite football for a single set of all the trophies available. Seems underwhelming.

  • @randomperson7445
    @randomperson7445 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is my question. Why have they stopped running and pressing?

  • @craaaaavendale
    @craaaaavendale ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is it hard for people to miss understand that we played the maximum amount of games you can possibly play last season.
    That will create fatigue and injury prone players.
    Pepijn Lijnders our #2 was also under scrutiny for writing book 'intensity' on Liverpool's tactics - which were exposed in 4-1 Napoli game.
    I think Sadio Mane also plays a part of the well oiled machine and the missing components have not yet manifested in terms of replacement pieces.
    We are most weak in the midfield. Which is our main issue

  • @Rizwaan122
    @Rizwaan122 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    7:10 basically, for the first time ever, "best RB in the World" Taa is being asked to defend, and suddenly Liverpool are shipping goals like sweets on Halloween.

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's been defending for years

  • @akshay86523
    @akshay86523 ปีที่แล้ว

    We all know how good Klopp is, but even his tactics don't work sometimes and teams adapt their playing styles. This shows how good Man city & pep are. Season after season, they have dominated EPL in the last decade and no team except liverpool came close to touching them, let alone displacing