I’m starting to think about 70% of the reasoning behind every food theory topic is dependent on how many dad jokes Matpat can make within the span of the video
as a theorist and science lover, i would like to look at 1.4 billion pounds of cheese. as a cheese lover, i’d like to eat 1.4 billion pounds of cheese. and lastly as a lactose intolerant person, i would like to avoid 1.4 billion pounds of cheese.
As a Missourian, a while back my friends and I decided that when we’re elderly, we’ll break into the cheese cave and make it our retirement home. Glad to see an inside joke amongst my friends covered on the channel!
@@_helvetixa Yeah, we ALMOST decided to sue them for it, but they offered us some of the cheese to let them cover it, so we let them after a lot of consideration. 😌
As an English 80's kid, I wondered if MatPat knew about the "Butter Mountain" surplus. We used to get given small wrapped pats of butter at school that they said was from the butter Mountain. As a tiny kid it sounded very literal. Lol! Xx
It's funny because, I don't remember when it was, but some country - I think a Nordic country like Sweden or Finland - ran out of butter once. Maybe that's where all their butter went lol
My buddy from high school used to mock the school lunch’s cheese by calling it “government cheese,” both because of its texture, and because of how the government is involved in school lunches. Three years later, and I learn it was actually a reference to real Government Cheese
I grew up in Springfield and I have been to the "cheese caves". We took a field trip in elementary school. There was a permeating pepper smell to the entire complex.
no. humans needs macronutrients and micronutrients to survive. macronutrients: protein, carbs, fats does not retain all their nutritional value if you put it into a pill so you would die of malnourishment if you rely on pills for macronutrients.
thats why a lot of vegans are malnourished and have health problems, because they are either not taking the correct protein supplement or the correct dose
Food Theory Idea: What is theoretically the highest you can stack a pancake? And what strategies can you do to prevent them from falling. I love your videos so much. And this is just a random question I just got curious about after binging youtube at 3am.
Well, without any limitations placed on the size and structure of the pancakes, and from a purely mathematical standpoint, if you have infinite space to work with, you can stack your pancakes infinitely high as long as each pancake is 5% or so smaller than the pancake under it. But within the confines of what could realistically be tested, this question is pretty much impossible to answer without stringent guidelines to follow. Variations in diameter, shape, thickness, the ingredients of the pancake, how much they are whipped/blended, how long they are cooked and how long they are allowed to cool before stacking can all significantly change the answer. Crepes are basically just super-thin pancakes, for example, and you can easily stack several hundred of those, even if they are the same size, whereas if you tried to stack the Eggo-brand mini pancakes, you'd be lucky to get more than a dozen stacked before it fell over, and even less if they are frozen while stacking them. And of course, you could kind of cheat things to get a larger "stack" by making numerous stable stacks, freezing them, then steaming the top and bottom pancakes in each stack, put the stacks together, then freeze it again to make one giant frozen stack - do it with crepe-thin pancakes and you could get tens of thousands of pancakes in a frozen stack.
@@daltigoth3970 forgot to account for the sponginess of pancakes making them gradually compress, once they compress enough the ones at the bottom will just become a pulp like substance that would no longer hold any weight
@@zackbuildit88 That was implied by the ingredients, how much they are whipped, and the temperature of the pancakes while stacking them...I accounted for that.
As a factory worker who packages cheese, a fun tidbit i can divulge is we package cheese at least 6 months ahead of the best by date. The pandemic really messed us up, a lot of warehouses burned through their extra stock and my production floor in particular went to 6 day weeks to keep up with future projections. After 2 years of 6 day weeks, we finally slowed down to 6 days every other week. Still a nightmare but when it's the best paying job in the area, you do what you gotta do.
This episode got me thinking of the whole "The moon is made of Cheese thing" what would that be like? what kinda cheese would be? and how long could a moon made of cheese last in space? this would be a fun theory to do I hope he does it.
When I was growing up, I always heard it as "the moon is made of _green_ cheese", "green" in this context meaning unripe, but as a kid I thought it literally meant the color green.
I lived in a military family for 16 years. They would give out 5lb blocks of cheese every week. That's where the term " government cheese " came from. So where did they get all this cheese from... 😂😂
As an older guy who grew up with government cheese in the house as a kid, I think you have missed the most important aspect of what made it wonderfully delicious. LOL Mind you, I never had to cook with it, so I don't know the horrors that was awaiting those 'craft'y type moms, but as a kid that was able to slice a giant chunk of cheese off for a snack... It was awesome. Oddly, one of my fond memories about food as a kid is enjoying the heck out of government cheese LOL I have a strong nostalgia factor regarding that cheese and when you said it was the bottom of the 'barrel' quality, I was like, "Really? I never knew." LOL Makes sense though. Guess it is just a matter of whose eyes you are looking through.
@ayoCC Regulations are generally bad, but some are necessary. I’m all for stripping the federal government of most of their power. Less regulation means more freedom. It’s not a free market if it’s heavily regulated.
I remember eating the real government cheese as a kid. Honestly, outside the weird texture it really was good for Mac and cheese and grilled cheese. Heck sometimes I even crave it today.
As a Missourian, I can safely say that I am not surprised at all. I'm fairly certain that there's a heck of a lot more than cheese in Missouri's caves.
That was probably my favorite pronunciation of the word "deseret" I have ever heard. Sorry, MatPat, it doesn't come from French. This is one of the few English words that is actually spelt phonetically. It's pronounced like desert, just with an extra syllable before the last "t".
My family used to get a bunch of that free government cheese; so much in fact that they didn't know how to use it all up, so cheese soup became a beloved family favorite for a long time, just to get through all the big blocks of cheese. Cheese soup became such a staple that we would start to crave it even after the government cheese supply we had had had tapered off, so we tried to substitute velveeta for it in the soup recipe, but it's never been quite as good without that fake tasting giant government cheese block. 🤣 It's still tasty and filling and comforting though, with potatoes and onion and bacon. We usually serve it with fresh homemade bread.
@@uncertifiedgrub5608 I'll ask my grandma for the recipe tomorrow and post it. 👍 It really is tasty and a crowd pleaser. Some day I'll figure out how to veganize cheese soup so I can eat my old favorite comfort food again. :)
I have an idea for another food theory: Which cheese (or cheese type) is the best cheese overall? Judged on taste, smell, physical properties such as melting and texture, and how well it mixes with other ingredients. I think it’d be an interesting episode and another excuse to be in the Food Theory Kitchen™️.
Finally! I have been waiting for someone to cover this! I learned about this when I was a kid and I am still baffled how this didn’t catch anyones attention until the articles. I told my elementary history teacher about this and got in trouble for lying! Justice is COLD Mrs. Hilty and stored in the cheese caves.
I remember hearing about this YEARS ago but the version I heard was that it dated back to the great depression, never knew whether it was true or not so thanks for covering this topic!
I don’t remember if it was the 70s or the 80s, but I do remember my grandma bringing home lots of cheese and sharing it with us. I thought it was OK cheese but I don’t know what I’d think of it today
We used to get government cheese. I'm only 25 and that stuff part of my life up until I turned 18, even then we were still occasionally getting it along with jars of peanut butter, beans, and egg noodles if my grandma had let too many boxes stack without using them. It fit the description of the older government cheese in the video to a T. Rubbery and wouldn't really melt, still loved that and the government peanut butter.
Thank you for the history lesson. Living near Springfield, I at least know a good cold storage option for that whole "post apocalypse" thing everyone worries about.
Here in Oklahoma we called it "commodities cheese," and I loved it! It was great for making cheese sauce to put over broccoli, macaroni and cheese, nachos, and plenty of other things. And we never had any problems melting it; it melted about the same as Velveeta (though I always thought the commodities cheese tasted better). I would say that we just got lucky, but it was consistently good EVERY time we got it (which was often when I was being raised by a single mother).
Upon hearing Matpat say it I must ask: Why did NOBODY TELL ME THAT MAC AND CHEESE IS ALSO A THANKSGIVING DISH??? Do you have any clear sense of how much food was wasted as a kid because my parents plated up stuff I despised, and then I just didn't eat it?
@@gkrees9509 It could be that it's not a thing in Southern California, or my parents and Grandparents straight up lied to me so I wouldn't demand Mac and Cheese every single Thanksgiving... you know what, saying that out loud that's probably it.
Mac and cheese was never a Thanksgiving dish when I was growing up, it was always just the classics like turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, cranberry sauce (is it even a dish?), green bean casserole, and pumpkin pie. Though obviously being a kid I skipped the cranberry sauce and green bean casserole.
Great work mat! Just one thing, its pronounced des-er-et, it doesn't do the weird thing like French. Its named after what the Mormon pioneers wanted utah to be (Utah, Nevada, Idaho)
Actually its a term for bees but the Mormon pioneers did infact want to call all their state deseret then proceeded to name everything even vaguely based around the church deseret
You know to come to think of it... Keeping perishable food on stand by just in case is a pretty simple idea. The cave is saving them an immense amount of electricity.
I can totally imagine powerful men in sharp suits around the Oval office poring over papers and stratching thier heads as truck after truck of cheese deposit thier loads on the lawn outside the Whitehouse.
As someone that would eat the government cheese from the 80's... That food writer couldn't be more wrong. The cheese my grandmother used to get was really good. I really doubt the food writer ever had it.
I have, and I can confirm that it's not all that great and does not melt well. Some of it also arrives a year past the expiration date although it is still edible.
They perfectly described the government cheese my grandma would get when I was little up until I moved out when I was 18 and I'm only 25. Maybe the older stuff was better or they had different supplies for different areas but it's not exactly a bad or wrong description of some government cheeses.
"Government Cheese" is made from multiple different cheeses at different times. You got lucky, my dude. The crap I had to eat in the 80's I can best describe as "some kind of wax".
Food Theory: you can technically use any sort of protein(meat) and cook it with strong acid because denaturation can also be caused by acids. I was thinking about how practical it would be
I grew up hearing about government cheese from my parents (the cheddar kind, in the 90s) and they say it's the best cheese they've ever had. I didn't realize that most people had never heard of the cheese reserve.
My mother, from her youngest years, always preferred to befriend people older (often 20-30 years older.) Through her 'old lady' connections she often received some of the government cheese her friends couldn't eat. Some of that, she shared with me. I still remember that to be among the best tasting cheddar type cheeses I have ever eaten. It wasn't low quality 'American' cheese, but a hard cheddar that melted perfectly. I would gladly pay a premium for some more of that cheese. It was far superior to any of the cheddars offered for sale by any of the major brands of the time, and possibly even today. It was really really good cheese.
My friends were interested: due to potassium, could you blow up a building with moist bananas and if so, how many? I don't know if it's interesting enough for a theory but we had fun conversing about it
I mean, in most common foods, potassium is not available as a free metal, but as a salt (typically citrate). In its salt form, potassium is not very reactive, and so I don't think it would cause any explosion. If banana's actually had free potassium, it might be deadly to even eat a banana, as the reaction between potassium and water/air would be exothermic (energy releasing), and can damage your digestive system.
Pretty sure Cody beat NileRed to it, and the potassium metal made from a banana isn't much; you'd need an awful lot if you were planning on nitrate salts for knocking over that building.
I have to say, Deseret news is actually pronounced with a “t” sound at the end! They’re centered locally here in Utah. :) It’s like “dez-er-ett.” Obviously this doesn’t matter too much, but I thought it might be useful to know for future episodes if it ever comes up again 😂
I was skeptical, at first, about how many theories on food there could be to sustain a channel. But, after this video, I realized there is a cornucopia of theories!
I like watching Food Theory. There is often a lesson that feels applicable to real life. I have to say that I was kind of thrown off to hear MatPat say "Deser-AY" when we pronounce it "Deser-EHT."
I would love to see Mattpatt do a video about the great Canadian Maple Syrup heist that happened several years back. Idk exactly what about with it. But it would definitely be a fun episode
Nobody wants to learn from history. People in America today still haven't realized that when the government prints trillions of dollars in one year, that creates inflation. They think inflation is caused by a random virus that doesn't care what the cost of your cheese is. When DC prints money, prices always go up.
As someone who ate plenty of government cheese as a child I can tell you it was really good cheese. It came in blocks like velveta but wasn't as salty as velveta. It was creamier than hard cheeses like Swiss or provalone and not as sharp as cheddar. It was really good cheese. The peanut butter was awesome also .
Ya knoooow I have been watching mat pat for about 5 - 6 years now and I love how the topics just get more and more weird and I'm obsessed with weird mat you'll always be my favorite youtuber and you keep giving more reasons to love you lol
this is honestly so good to see with the ridiculously low standers of quality control in media these days im glad at least someone is calling them on there bs
Hank from Sci Show made a similar video on his vlogbrothers channel about an article that sensationalized the amount of microplastic a person is eating.
I know that this video is old, but I wanted to comment and say that I used this video on my APUSH test last may. Thank you for all the hard work you guys do!!!
The nearby gas stations/gift shops used to sell those cheese as an attraction. I think they stopped selling the legit cave cheese back in 08-10. They still sell it but it's not the cave cheese anymore, I'm assuming they got in trouble so there's a company that makes home made local cheese and sells it as it.
at a buffet, i personally sneak corndogs into the buffet so others can enjoy them. I hide 6 corndogs in my jacket pockets. it then, is a joy for me to see other patrons of the establishment eat my corndogs thinking they were part of the buffe
Food theory idea: If you could only eat on one food for your whole life but you could choose what it would be, what food would make you live the longest?
@1:05 You showed a news article from the Deseret News, but you pronounce it Desiree. Deseret is pronounced deh·zr·et. It's actually a Mormon term meaning Honeybee, hence the beehive the logo, and Utah being called the Beehive State.
Fun fact, there's multiple underground storage caves in MO. I have been to 2, Springfield and Carthage. Used to deliver to the Carthage caves a lot in my otr truck driver days. I have a video on my channel of me driving through them. First few times are exciting then it's meh.
Can I just say that my dad works in the cheese industry and 1.4 billion pounds wouldn’t even last this country a year in the event of halted dairy production
2:39 it's actually really funny you should mention that cheese isn't gonna be stored in an ominous looking cave with stalactites and stalagmites everywhere, but as a local I've gotta tell you to look up 'Wookey hole and cheddar gorge cheese' as they do exactly what you described😂
I know you kinda didn’t like them saying cheese cave, but often times that’s what they call those spaces. Even if it isn’t an actual cave or isn’t even underground they still call those kinds of spaces a cave. But anyway keep up the great work! Love the vids!
Funny thing is that Brazil actually did that with coffee in the beginning of the 20th century, we even stocked coffee beans in NY at that time hahaha. Mainly because we produced too much coffee, and the price lowered much more than we expected, so they started to stock it and when the stocks got to big, they burned most of the coffee beans.
I was working in the deli, late one night when I turn to behold a delicious sight the cheese started to move, it began to rise and suddenly to my surprise. It did the muenster mash! It was a deli smash! It caught on in a flash! it did the muenster mash! I should really brie-have... but it was so cheesy I had to
Hey matpat, a cool theory for a future video would be talking about the “5 second rule” and if it actually works like that or if it’s just a myth someone made up
Also, at this point, I could listen to any video matpat puts out, there doesn't even have to be a plot at this point, just the format; he has me hooked
Dear editors of Game Theory: The milk asset in the background at 5:54 slowly turning green as mat was talking did not go under appreciated. Many people won't notice, but I noticed
Gov't Hiding Cheese 👀 Better be made out of Bloody Gold or something (Joshing, Kekw) Rather interesting video to watch, Nothing but Hard Cheddar. Great work & the research 👌 Hope your doing well, Keep being Awesome & Safe Bro 🧀 😎 👊
I’m starting to think about 70% of the reasoning behind every food theory topic is dependent on how many dad jokes Matpat can make within the span of the video
I thought this was a given
LMAO
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if he actually admitted it.
A cheesy conspiracy!
Hey that's a gouda point. 😁👍
as a theorist and science lover, i would like to look at 1.4 billion pounds of cheese. as a cheese lover, i’d like to eat 1.4 billion pounds of cheese. and lastly as a lactose intolerant person, i would like to avoid 1.4 billion pounds of cheese.
I feel sorry for you
yes.
All of these things! I agree completely and feel your pain as I eat some cheese now that will, for sure, make me suffer later...
And we want to avoid you as a lactose intolerant person!
Yeah lactose is a pain. Stick to vegan cheese. It tasted good in grilled cheese sadwiches atleast.
As a Missourian, a while back my friends and I decided that when we’re elderly, we’ll break into the cheese cave and make it our retirement home.
Glad to see an inside joke amongst my friends covered on the channel!
Yeah, im glad you let those journalists write about your inside joke! Very nice of you guys!
@@_helvetixa Yeah, we ALMOST decided to sue them for it, but they offered us some of the cheese to let them cover it, so we let them after a lot of consideration. 😌
Why break in when you can just tunnel down from a perpendicular direction and install a covert door? 😆
@Fity Bux omg I think I’m gonna have to invest in a really big shovel now…
@@hayleemk06 As a springfield resident, may i help?
As an English 80's kid, I wondered if MatPat knew about the "Butter Mountain" surplus. We used to get given small wrapped pats of butter at school that they said was from the butter Mountain. As a tiny kid it sounded very literal. Lol! Xx
that butter, cheese, peanut butter, and dried milk was the best in my opinion.
Whoa! Cool! haha I kinda wish I grew up with that kind of memory
It's funny because, I don't remember when it was, but some country - I think a Nordic country like Sweden or Finland - ran out of butter once. Maybe that's where all their butter went lol
@@salemcrow5078 Norway's butter crisis of 2011! The Technical Difficulties have a wonderful Citation Needed episode on this.
I've never seen them of butter. It's always margarine here.
I swear matpats Alliteration skills are on point and getting better and better
I feel like this comment will get popular
@@mariomaster101official What a profile name..
Yes, I agree!
probly
I think you meant “butter and butter”
My buddy from high school used to mock the school lunch’s cheese by calling it “government cheese,” both because of its texture, and because of how the government is involved in school lunches.
Three years later, and I learn it was actually a reference to real Government Cheese
“How many cheese puns do you want?”
Matpatt: “Yes”
Queso what do we do now?
I swear he's got to be googling these
Quite *cheesy*
Thats not a number
@@j0ha_olsen111not with that attitude
I grew up in Springfield and I have been to the "cheese caves". We took a field trip in elementary school. There was a permeating pepper smell to the entire complex.
So you're saying that the cheese in the caves isn't "cheddar" but is in fact "Pepperjack"?
Springfield gang!!
@@bkdmode what's pepperjack
@@Cat_Garfield a type of cheese
@@OnlyShots_ That's a stupid name for cheese
Idea for theory : would a person survive by just taking pills with necessary amount of vitamins and minerals that the body needs ?
Interesting idea. He could talk about bioavailability.
Oh, and water. 😊
Someone already did that once.
isnt that just the hospital
no. humans needs macronutrients and micronutrients to survive. macronutrients: protein, carbs, fats does not retain all their nutritional value if you put it into a pill so you would die of malnourishment if you rely on pills for macronutrients.
thats why a lot of vegans are malnourished and have health problems, because they are either not taking the correct protein supplement or the correct dose
If someone wanted the cheese, how would they go about getting it? Asking for a friend
I feel like this comment will get popular
Tell your _friend_ "That's nacho cheese".
Global warming, the cheese will melt and eventually flow out of the mountain.
I am that friend (not really but cheesee)
Cheez I want cheez!
Food Theory Idea: What is theoretically the highest you can stack a pancake? And what strategies can you do to prevent them from falling.
I love your videos so much. And this is just a random question I just got curious about after binging youtube at 3am.
Well, without any limitations placed on the size and structure of the pancakes, and from a purely mathematical standpoint, if you have infinite space to work with, you can stack your pancakes infinitely high as long as each pancake is 5% or so smaller than the pancake under it.
But within the confines of what could realistically be tested, this question is pretty much impossible to answer without stringent guidelines to follow. Variations in diameter, shape, thickness, the ingredients of the pancake, how much they are whipped/blended, how long they are cooked and how long they are allowed to cool before stacking can all significantly change the answer. Crepes are basically just super-thin pancakes, for example, and you can easily stack several hundred of those, even if they are the same size, whereas if you tried to stack the Eggo-brand mini pancakes, you'd be lucky to get more than a dozen stacked before it fell over, and even less if they are frozen while stacking them. And of course, you could kind of cheat things to get a larger "stack" by making numerous stable stacks, freezing them, then steaming the top and bottom pancakes in each stack, put the stacks together, then freeze it again to make one giant frozen stack - do it with crepe-thin pancakes and you could get tens of thousands of pancakes in a frozen stack.
@@daltigoth3970 Very nice. This is what people should be spending their time on; how to make a huge stack of pancakes lol.
@@daltigoth3970 forgot to account for the sponginess of pancakes making them gradually compress, once they compress enough the ones at the bottom will just become a pulp like substance that would no longer hold any weight
@@zackbuildit88 That was implied by the ingredients, how much they are whipped, and the temperature of the pancakes while stacking them...I accounted for that.
If you want to stop your pancakes from falling, just skewer them. You can then hide the skewer with the famous tablespoon of butter on top.
As a factory worker who packages cheese, a fun tidbit i can divulge is we package cheese at least 6 months ahead of the best by date. The pandemic really messed us up, a lot of warehouses burned through their extra stock and my production floor in particular went to 6 day weeks to keep up with future projections. After 2 years of 6 day weeks, we finally slowed down to 6 days every other week. Still a nightmare but when it's the best paying job in the area, you do what you gotta do.
This episode got me thinking of the whole "The moon is made of Cheese thing" what would that be like? what kinda cheese would be? and how long could a moon made of cheese last in space? this would be a fun theory to do I hope he does it.
When I was growing up, I always heard it as "the moon is made of _green_ cheese", "green" in this context meaning unripe, but as a kid I thought it literally meant the color green.
It’s made of Wensleydale or Stilton
@@TraningSword Wallace? That you?
I remember hearing that the moon cheese is a kind of green cheese.
Reminds me of Wallace and Gromit, the moon chees episode made me want to try the cheese.
I lived in a military family for 16 years. They would give out 5lb blocks of cheese every week. That's where the term " government cheese " came from. So where did they get all this cheese from... 😂😂
Interesting, what did it taste like?
They probably got it from Wisconsin
@@dylancountney3045 yep probably
@@teamhyperbeamgaming Wisconsin makes most of the cheese in the US
@@Subliminalsapper it could depend on the area idk lol
As an older guy who grew up with government cheese in the house as a kid, I think you have missed the most important aspect of what made it wonderfully delicious. LOL Mind you, I never had to cook with it, so I don't know the horrors that was awaiting those 'craft'y type moms, but as a kid that was able to slice a giant chunk of cheese off for a snack... It was awesome.
Oddly, one of my fond memories about food as a kid is enjoying the heck out of government cheese LOL
I have a strong nostalgia factor regarding that cheese and when you said it was the bottom of the 'barrel' quality, I was like, "Really? I never knew." LOL Makes sense though. Guess it is just a matter of whose eyes you are looking through.
The most dangerous words are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
@@funveeablebetter than companies trying to make you think they deserve less regulations
@@ayoCC mmmmmmm no. Both are equally terrible.
@ayoCC Regulations are generally bad, but some are necessary. I’m all for stripping the federal government of most of their power. Less regulation means more freedom. It’s not a free market if it’s heavily regulated.
Food theory idea:How much cheese would it take to build an artificial cheese moon and also how much would it cost? #TeamTheorist
Okay, this
Yes. YES
We need this.
That’s no moon. It’s a fully functional battle cheese.
Stop your lies! We all know the Cheese Moon is flat!
I remember eating the real government cheese as a kid. Honestly, outside the weird texture it really was good for Mac and cheese and grilled cheese. Heck sometimes I even crave it today.
I remember it being a cross between Velvetta and Kraft Singles. Highly processed and very bland.
--The secret ingredient is cocaine--
I’m 41 now and definitely remember getting government cheese as a kid. My friends and I still bring it up sometimes that it wasn’t that bad.
As a Missourian, I can safely say that I am not surprised at all. I'm fairly certain that there's a heck of a lot more than cheese in Missouri's caves.
me too me too
Me too fam
For sure
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the government had a concerning amount of kool-aid or smth like that there
oh?
I’m absolutely *LOVING* these “debunking”-esque videos! It’s a neat change of pace every once in a while :)
Keep ‘em up 👍
Same
That was probably my favorite pronunciation of the word "deseret" I have ever heard. Sorry, MatPat, it doesn't come from French. This is one of the few English words that is actually spelt phonetically. It's pronounced like desert, just with an extra syllable before the last "t".
I was shocked that he had never heard the word deseret before
@@eelvis1674 Yeah it’s kind of a Utah word.
@@priestly8164 it's also just a general US history word
I was actually questioning if I have been pronouncing it wrong, but it does have an English origin.
yea it made me giggle when he said that
The cheese cave has got to be heaven for Remy from Ratatouille.
THIS IS THE MOST UNDERRATED COMMENT I HAVE EVER FOUND ON TH-cam LOL
Actually rats don’t actually prefer cheese, rats will literally eat anything, cheese is just usually stored where they tend to be
Or heaven for a Frenchie
My family used to get a bunch of that free government cheese; so much in fact that they didn't know how to use it all up, so cheese soup became a beloved family favorite for a long time, just to get through all the big blocks of cheese. Cheese soup became such a staple that we would start to crave it even after the government cheese supply we had had had tapered off, so we tried to substitute velveeta for it in the soup recipe, but it's never been quite as good without that fake tasting giant government cheese block. 🤣 It's still tasty and filling and comforting though, with potatoes and onion and bacon. We usually serve it with fresh homemade bread.
Have a recipe that sounds delicious
@@uncertifiedgrub5608 I'll ask my grandma for the recipe tomorrow and post it. 👍 It really is tasty and a crowd pleaser. Some day I'll figure out how to veganize cheese soup so I can eat my old favorite comfort food again. :)
@@Behold_I_am_Egg that sounds fire dude, I’m thinking something like ‘potatoes au gratin’
@@Behold_I_am_Egg where will ya post it? Also that sounds really good
What kind of cheese was it exactly?
I have an idea for another food theory: Which cheese (or cheese type) is the best cheese overall?
Judged on taste, smell, physical properties such as melting and texture, and how well it mixes with other ingredients. I think it’d be an interesting episode and another excuse to be in the Food Theory Kitchen™️.
Finally! I have been waiting for someone to cover this! I learned about this when I was a kid and I am still baffled how this didn’t catch anyones attention until the articles. I told my elementary history teacher about this and got in trouble for lying! Justice is COLD Mrs. Hilty and stored in the cheese caves.
Dishing out some cold, cheesey, justice!
Ahahahaha
I remember hearing about this YEARS ago but the version I heard was that it dated back to the great depression, never knew whether it was true or not so thanks for covering this topic!
As someone who grew up in Missouri, I remember hearing about the Cheese Cave. Jokes that it was full of government cheese. I guess it was true.
Well I live nixa missouri a city a couple miles south from springfield so logicaly I am better than you in every way
@@notrichardmnixon868 Okay
It's always the government. They look for problems and burn your tax dollars to solve it which always creates more problems.
Yo government cheese used to be something I looked forward to as a kid, I literally thought it was the best kind of cheese 🤣
Bruh I thought it was literally inedible.
I don’t remember if it was the 70s or the 80s, but I do remember my grandma bringing home lots of cheese and sharing it with us. I thought it was OK cheese but I don’t know what I’d think of it today
We used to get government cheese. I'm only 25 and that stuff part of my life up until I turned 18, even then we were still occasionally getting it along with jars of peanut butter, beans, and egg noodles if my grandma had let too many boxes stack without using them. It fit the description of the older government cheese in the video to a T. Rubbery and wouldn't really melt, still loved that and the government peanut butter.
Literally I was so confused like it’s literally so much better than store bought in my opinion
Thank you for the history lesson.
Living near Springfield, I at least know a good cold storage option for that whole "post apocalypse" thing everyone worries about.
Here in Oklahoma we called it "commodities cheese," and I loved it! It was great for making cheese sauce to put over broccoli, macaroni and cheese, nachos, and plenty of other things. And we never had any problems melting it; it melted about the same as Velveeta (though I always thought the commodities cheese tasted better). I would say that we just got lucky, but it was consistently good EVERY time we got it (which was often when I was being raised by a single mother).
really
In the se us we had commodity cheese in the 1960’s
Upon hearing Matpat say it I must ask: Why did NOBODY TELL ME THAT MAC AND CHEESE IS ALSO A THANKSGIVING DISH??? Do you have any clear sense of how much food was wasted as a kid because my parents plated up stuff I despised, and then I just didn't eat it?
How TF do you not already know that
@@gkrees9509 It could be that it's not a thing in Southern California, or my parents and Grandparents straight up lied to me so I wouldn't demand Mac and Cheese every single Thanksgiving... you know what, saying that out loud that's probably it.
@@treybrzezowski3259 it's mostly a southerner's or Midwesterner's thing, so I'd bet it's a thing there
Mac and cheese was never a Thanksgiving dish when I was growing up, it was always just the classics like turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, cranberry sauce (is it even a dish?), green bean casserole, and pumpkin pie. Though obviously being a kid I skipped the cranberry sauce and green bean casserole.
@@_Fuscous where did you grow up? It's not really a time thing more a regional thing (my family has been doing Mac and cheese for 30+ years)
Great work mat! Just one thing, its pronounced des-er-et, it doesn't do the weird thing like French. Its named after what the Mormon pioneers wanted utah to be (Utah, Nevada, Idaho)
Actually its a term for bees but the Mormon pioneers did infact want to call all their state deseret then proceeded to name everything even vaguely based around the church deseret
Came here to say this exact thing! It was fun seeing Deseret News featured in this episode though!
Was looking for this comment! As someone from Utah I was a bit confused by his pronunciation haha.
@@magicalmercy to be fair, to non deseret areas, it does look french
You know to come to think of it... Keeping perishable food on stand by just in case is a pretty simple idea. The cave is saving them an immense amount of electricity.
The phrase "government owned cheese" is absolutely hilarious to me
I can totally imagine powerful men in sharp suits around the Oval office poring over papers and stratching thier heads as truck after truck of cheese deposit thier loads on the lawn outside the Whitehouse.
@@blakksheep736 cheese reserves
@@whiteink225 I'd like to have a cheese reserve.
As someone that would eat the government cheese from the 80's... That food writer couldn't be more wrong. The cheese my grandmother used to get was really good. I really doubt the food writer ever had it.
I have, and I can confirm that it's not all that great and does not melt well. Some of it also arrives a year past the expiration date although it is still edible.
They perfectly described the government cheese my grandma would get when I was little up until I moved out when I was 18 and I'm only 25. Maybe the older stuff was better or they had different supplies for different areas but it's not exactly a bad or wrong description of some government cheeses.
"Government Cheese" is made from multiple different cheeses at different times. You got lucky, my dude. The crap I had to eat in the 80's I can best describe as "some kind of wax".
been catching up on all the theory channels and just gotta say the amount of work and creativity you guys have is mesmerizing
Food Theory: you can technically use any sort of protein(meat) and cook it with strong acid because denaturation can also be caused by acids. I was thinking about how practical it would be
You are describing ceviche and similar foods. Finely ground "raw" pieces of meat/fish/shellfish cooked in lemon juice and other tasty acids.
Cool idea, but it’s already done. Look up ceviche.
I grew up hearing about government cheese from my parents (the cheddar kind, in the 90s) and they say it's the best cheese they've ever had. I didn't realize that most people had never heard of the cheese reserve.
Your talking about something these kids born after 2003 have no idea about.
My mother, from her youngest years, always preferred to befriend people older (often 20-30 years older.) Through her 'old lady' connections she often received some of the government cheese her friends couldn't eat. Some of that, she shared with me. I still remember that to be among the best tasting cheddar type cheeses I have ever eaten. It wasn't low quality 'American' cheese, but a hard cheddar that melted perfectly. I would gladly pay a premium for some more of that cheese. It was far superior to any of the cheddars offered for sale by any of the major brands of the time, and possibly even today. It was really really good cheese.
What's next, bread caves? Tomato sauce caves? Pepperoni caves?
I love how MatPats just giving us random facts that we can use in conversations to show how smart we are to people who think we're not
Actually... I'm not that smart
@@Sam-ps8zz you don't have to be if you can memorize matpat
My friends were interested: due to potassium, could you blow up a building with moist bananas and if so, how many?
I don't know if it's interesting enough for a theory but we had fun conversing about it
I mean, in most common foods, potassium is not available as a free metal, but as a salt (typically citrate). In its salt form, potassium is not very reactive, and so I don't think it would cause any explosion. If banana's actually had free potassium, it might be deadly to even eat a banana, as the reaction between potassium and water/air would be exothermic (energy releasing), and can damage your digestive system.
You should ask RedNile, if the guy can make cotton candy from cotton, he might be able to make explosive from food.
@@amberkokoro5723 I'd be surprised if NileRed hasn't done that yet
Pretty sure Cody beat NileRed to it, and the potassium metal made from a banana isn't much; you'd need an awful lot if you were planning on nitrate salts for knocking over that building.
I have to say, Deseret news is actually pronounced with a “t” sound at the end! They’re centered locally here in Utah. :) It’s like “dez-er-ett.” Obviously this doesn’t matter too much, but I thought it might be useful to know for future episodes if it ever comes up again 😂
I was skeptical, at first, about how many theories on food there could be to sustain a channel. But, after this video, I realized there is a cornucopia of theories!
I like watching Food Theory. There is often a lesson that feels applicable to real life.
I have to say that I was kind of thrown off to hear MatPat say "Deser-AY" when we pronounce it "Deser-EHT."
Samee
Came here to say this
french
@@the4spaceconstantstetraqua886 Ah. That makes sense.
The fact that the article came out in February and the theory came out in July proves that he works hard for a while on his videos. Thank you MatPat😊
I would love to see Mattpatt do a video about the great Canadian Maple Syrup heist that happened several years back. Idk exactly what about with it. But it would definitely be a fun episode
Gotta say, that cheese cave is one of the top destinations on my bucket list
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Your username fits.
"Those that don't learn from history are apparently doomed to eat cheese"
~Matpat
Nobody wants to learn from history. People in America today still haven't realized that when the government prints trillions of dollars in one year, that creates inflation. They think inflation is caused by a random virus that doesn't care what the cost of your cheese is. When DC prints money, prices always go up.
As a Missourian, I'm so glad we're the ones with the cheese vault. Get your own cheese nerds
I don't know, MatPat. Why DOES the government have 1.4 billion pounds of cheese??
Try turning milk into cheese for the coming food crisis
To get to the other side 🐔
Who wants to raid Area 51 when you could raid the USA cheese vault?
Forget storming area 51, we need to raid the CHEESE cave!
Fun Fact: The most popular cheese recipe in the United States is macaroni and cheese.
Honestly, I’m not surprised.
Thanks Thomas
I mean can you blame us? I don't even like cheese and Mac&Cheese is my favorite food
I would have thought it was pizza.
As someone who ate plenty of government cheese as a child I can tell you it was really good cheese. It came in blocks like velveta but wasn't as salty as velveta. It was creamier than hard cheeses like Swiss or provalone and not as sharp as cheddar.
It was really good cheese. The peanut butter was awesome also .
Ya knoooow I have been watching mat pat for about 5 - 6 years now and I love how the topics just get more and more weird and I'm obsessed with weird mat you'll always be my favorite youtuber and you keep giving more reasons to love you lol
this is honestly so good to see with the ridiculously low standers of quality control in media these days im glad at least someone is calling them on there bs
Hank from Sci Show made a similar video on his vlogbrothers channel about an article that sensationalized the amount of microplastic a person is eating.
I know that this video is old, but I wanted to comment and say that I used this video on my APUSH test last may. Thank you for all the hard work you guys do!!!
The nearby gas stations/gift shops used to sell those cheese as an attraction. I think they stopped selling the legit cave cheese back in 08-10.
They still sell it but it's not the cave cheese anymore, I'm assuming they got in trouble so there's a company that makes home made local cheese and sells it as it.
Of course we will make the same mistake again, we are talking about the government...
I've heard about this government cheese .that used to be a big thing with food stamps my mom used to love this cheese when she was younger.
He says cheese about 71 times, not counting things like swiss or cheesy.
I also counted cheddar three times, I think.
at a buffet, i personally sneak corndogs into the buffet so others can enjoy them. I hide 6 corndogs in my jacket pockets. it then, is a joy for me to see other patrons of the establishment eat my corndogs thinking they were part of the buffe
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The corn dogs were in a bag or something in your pockets right?... right?
Sounds yummy the extra grease from your hands adds flavor.
Food theory idea: If you could only eat on one food for your whole life but you could choose what it would be, what food would make you live the longest?
I think MatPat did an episode on this lol
@1:05 You showed a news article from the Deseret News, but you pronounce it Desiree.
Deseret is pronounced deh·zr·et. It's actually a Mormon term meaning Honeybee, hence the beehive the logo, and Utah being called the Beehive State.
Haha I noticed this! Been a Utah native my whole life lmao
"1.4 billion pounds of cheese? Good lord gromit! We've hit the jackpot of cheeeese!" -Wallace to gromit after finding the governments cheese stash
Hey MatPat, I have a pretty good question. What and how far can a piece of gum be stretched? I wanna see your take on this!
Fun fact, there's multiple underground storage caves in MO. I have been to 2, Springfield and Carthage. Used to deliver to the Carthage caves a lot in my otr truck driver days. I have a video on my channel of me driving through them. First few times are exciting then it's meh.
So if youre nuked at least you'll have cheese
@@AwakenedAvocado yep!
Food Theory Idea: How to Choose the BEST Watermelon and see if size, shape, field spots, or color can help determine a good watermelon.
Check out the king of random. They did this
Can I just say that my dad works in the cheese industry and 1.4 billion pounds wouldn’t even last this country a year in the event of halted dairy production
I think I understand the true reason behind the absurd amount of cheese...
The Backrooms' walls are made of cheese.
Love the video, your pronunciation of “Deseret” made my day😂
For anyone unfamiliar, the word isn’t French, so the T isn’t silent
2:39 it's actually really funny you should mention that cheese isn't gonna be stored in an ominous looking cave with stalactites and stalagmites everywhere, but as a local I've gotta tell you to look up 'Wookey hole and cheddar gorge cheese' as they do exactly what you described😂
If I had 1.4billion pounds of cheese, I would hide it using an elaborate arg with a lot or red herrings. No one would find it
I want to try and solve a cheese arg.
1:42 Now _there's_ something no one has ever said before! 😂
I never thought this would be a question that would ever be asked
I know you kinda didn’t like them saying cheese cave, but often times that’s what they call those spaces. Even if it isn’t an actual cave or isn’t even underground they still call those kinds of spaces a cave. But anyway keep up the great work! Love the vids!
I think hidden underground cheese facility sounds more interesting.
It's because they're hiding it from us 3 AM cheese eaters
Funny thing is that Brazil actually did that with coffee in the beginning of the 20th century, we even stocked coffee beans in NY at that time hahaha. Mainly because we produced too much coffee, and the price lowered much more than we expected, so they started to stock it and when the stocks got to big, they burned most of the coffee beans.
I was working in the deli, late one night
when I turn to behold a delicious sight
the cheese started to move, it began to rise
and suddenly to my surprise.
It did the muenster mash!
It was a deli smash!
It caught on in a flash!
it did the muenster mash!
I should really brie-have... but it was so cheesy I had to
Gouda for you.
Oh goodness this is gonna be a ride 👀
Theory idea: what is the fewest amount of chips needed for a Pringles circle
Hey matpat, a cool theory for a future video would be talking about the “5 second rule” and if it actually works like that or if it’s just a myth someone made up
There's is a myth busters episode about this
Matpat could churn out cheese puns for days and we'd edam up
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What is the longest amount of time you can age cheese? And what happens to it the longer you age it??
0:14 as someone who lives in missouri, this is a valid question
Me reading the title: Dang the Dislexia is hitting hard
Also me reading it again: EXCUSE ME WHAT
1.4 billion pounds of cheese but the cheese on my big mac still tastes like plastic
I have an idea for a video: How long can a Pringle can possibly stay on your hand/arm?
probably depends on how determined you are to get the pringle
Tape it to your arm, obviously
This is the only video that is based around cheese that im actually willing to watch.
Wallace be like:
"Gromit, looks like well be doing some crime. Are you in lad."
I love how you just do a theory of cheese
As a person who loves cheese, I see this as an absolute loss.
Cheese is literally the most versatile food ever
It’s absolutely great
@@MrFishio I know right
It’s muffin time
Lmao
@UCutJVDsswGlaRwfjlNhT03w I used to be apart of that cult
and yes I will kiss cheese forever
Also, at this point, I could listen to any video matpat puts out, there doesn't even have to be a plot at this point, just the format; he has me hooked
Hitchcock and Skully: that’s all I needed to hear
hey Matpat thank you for entertaining me every week with all your channels keep up the good work
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th-cam.com/video/wBrUzYJku8/w-d-xo.html is finally here
@Mario Master 101 I feel like this comment is going to be popular
MATT please do a video about the illusion of choice in a supermarket. I would love to see your take on it 😍
Dear editors of Game Theory: The milk asset in the background at 5:54 slowly turning green as mat was talking did not go under appreciated. Many people won't notice, but I noticed
That's a lot of cheddar.
My parents have actually told me about government cheese, didn't expect it to have such an interesting story lol
Gov't Hiding Cheese 👀 Better be made out of Bloody Gold or something (Joshing, Kekw) Rather interesting video to watch, Nothing but Hard Cheddar. Great work & the research 👌 Hope your doing well, Keep being Awesome & Safe Bro 🧀 😎 👊