Daemon & Rhaenyra Explained - Otto is Tired & Fired - House of the Dragon S2E2
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- Surrouned by idiots - we've all felt it. Whole lotta wtf goin on this week, but we got down to the bottom of several characters & relationships, none more so than Daemon and Rhaenyra. Did you know Aegon, and not Aemond, is more like Daemon? I'll show you why!
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Otto realizing that the purpose of the last 20 years of his life was wasted in pursuit of installing a villain is just marvelous
truly amusing
Aegon is not Villain none of TG is not just like none of TB are heroes they are or should be grey this show is just biased and it showed with their adaptation of B&ch
@@queenxx1690 I wouldn't say 'biased' as much as it's working within the traditional narrative structure of a central 'protagonist' (a focal character, not a value judgement of morality). As ASOIAF book readers, we are long used to having all grey characters working with and against each other with no clearly defined "good guys."
The typical TV storytelling model suggests that audiences get more involved in the story if they have a 'main' character to introduce them to the fictional world.
Futhermore, I think team Green has had some outstanding moments both in s1 and even more so far in s2! Alicent has had some of the best character moments in the last 2 episodes. I felt so much pain for Halaena and despised Daemon after E1 and I found Aegon trolling Tyland in the small council to be very droll.
@@queenxx1690 " none of team green are villains" really? Do what do you call people who usep the throne, imprison and kill noble lords who don't side with them , leaves the king to rot for weeks before crowning aegon, commit kin slaying, burn the shit out of the river lands , kill thousands of innocent people, murders an entire noble house unprovoked, commits the sack of tumblton ?
Meanwhile the worst thing the blacks do is blood and cheese, daemon and rhenyrea are not the only members of team black , yiu whine and complain about bias but your ridiculous comment on this video and other videos show your biased for the greens and are blinded by that , both sides were never equally bad the Greens are villains and always were .
He really had a…huh maybe Viserys WASNT crazy when he didn’t make Aegon his heir
Daemon isn't team black out of love for Rhaenyra, he's team black out of hate for the greens.
correct imo
I do feel that Daemon has had genuine love for Rhaenyra though. Looking back to when she was younger when he went away, he would bring her back gifts and they are the only two Targaryen's that spoke to each other in high valyrian - I definately feel there was chemistry between them early on.
And he wanted to marry Rhaenyra back then - he asked for her hand but Vicerys was having none of it. Which is weird considering he let his two children marry each other so clearly incest wasn't an issue for him. Tbh if he had done that at the time, there probably wouldn't have been the Dance with Dragons as they would have had legitimate children and Rhaenyra wouldn't have had the bastards comments thrown in her face every 5 mins.
Also team black represents defending his brothers throne/his would be throne/Targyrean rule. He’s in it for the right reasons imo.
Naah he is team black because he loved Viserys and he wants revenge for what he thinks they did to him.
good ol enemy's enemy = friend
otto reading aegon for filth the entire episode was iconic and hilarious and as certified otto hater actually had me loving him this episode!
Otto has no leg to stand on tho. He was testing Aegon's sanity by parading around Jahaerys's mutilated body out in public. Aegon's actions afterwards to execute all the rat-catchers were as much his fault as it was Criston's and Aegon's.
Otto only cares the innocent ratcatchers died coz it happened publicly. Now that his plan to garner sympathy and striking fear of Rhaenyra into the hearts of the lords is foiled, he is pissed. The real reason Otto is mad is because his puppet king is not being a good puppet to him.
@@happilyevernever4289agreed
As did I it was brilliant acting the whole episode Rhaenyra an Daemon, Rhaenys an Corleys luved their scene an beautiful Jaecerys an Baela
It was definitely nice to see someone putting Aegon in his place BUT I was also so annoyed at it being Otto because like putting him on the throne, and in fact his mother’s marriage and therefore his very existence, were orchestrated by Otto. What did he honestly expect??
Otto is just neurotic-he gets mad at criston for sending cargyll to kill Rhaenyra, while he literally just asked Harold westerling to do the same thing last season.😂 Either the writers or Otto are just dumb
Otto is REALLY foolish in one way tho- he really thought he as the grandad and Alicent as the mommy were gonna be able to control a 21 year old boy they put on the throne lol.
@@taytayqueen7024 with a freaking dragon and no prep forreal from anyone😂😂😂😂
This show is a show about imperfect people (like every one is). His flaw was blindly wanting his grandson on the throne no matter the cost. Now he knows he can't control him and it backfired. It makes for incredible character development and complexity
@@thenickfoxx Yes, I’m aware lol. But you have to admit it’s a pretty obvious thing to miss. Especially considering how Aegon was behaving for years. It was pretty obvious that dude was out of control 😂 but idm cause Aegon is genuinely funny
The couldn't control him on the simple things. Now they know it's hard to control a dog once you put a crown on its head@taytayqueen7024
@@taytayqueen7024 oh yeah for sure, seeing this backfire in his face is awesome. I'm sure it was willful ignorance on his part aswell lol
I was thinking Daemon being the husband of the Queen must be hard just like it was for Prince Philip. And then I remembered, “Oh yeah, Matt Smith was him, too.” So uh, pretty experienced actor in this regard, lol!
I'm glad you watch stuff like that enough to see that😊
I couldn’t hate him as Prince Phillip either, even when he was dogging out the Queen.
@@Maegorsteats great username!
I also like the irony of both characters failing to regard their legacy in teaching their sons who will inherit the crown, showing ironic preference to their eldest daughters. There are of course big differences in the characters but definitely see the Rouge Prince character a familiar archetype to the audience. Could definitely see Matt Smith playing Richard III here soon too.
Otto was so tired of everyone. This man should be on a cruise ship to the Summer Isles.
I think the biggest idiots are the people attacking the actors. Namely Fabien Frankel.
were all surrounded aren't we
At least it means he's doing an excellent job portraying a hateful character. Like Jack Gleeson and Lena Headey in GoT
@@efrent-vr3bm 🤦♂️
@@fernandocorona5411 They're right you know. It's more a bad reflection on certain elements of the audience for being unable to differentiate between a real person and a character they portray. But it has been this way for a long time for some reason. I was just reading about how Leonard Nimoy had to change his hair when not filming Star Trek. Fans would see his Vulcan haircut and swarm him to the point he was afraid he or others would be seriously hurt in the press. He actually stopped appearing in character in public because it got that out of control. I can understand that in the 60s, but with how modern media lets us connect with celebrities more directly, it surprises me we still have to deal with personal attacks on actors. Like..you can go talk with them on social media or watch any number of interviews with them and see the performer is a really nice, talented person
@@ThommyofThenn why can’t people just say “good job at making me hate your character.” Lol
You only talked about the brothel scene briefly, but something I noticed is (imho) the shape and feel/atmosphere of the brothel room with Aemond naked and curled up was that of a fetus in a womb. The room is very round, small, and snug; and he's literally in the fetal position. He has to outsource and literally pay for the feelings of maternal safety/comfort that he didn't get from Alicent. Freud would have a field day with Aemond (and Aegon).
The Otto scene was great. I like how he called Cole's plan a "prank'.
That was the best scene imo. Probably because I'm TB and don't like Mom and Dad fighting lol but Rhys nailed it.
I agree his use of that word was PERFECT. "I'm going to impersonate my twin" definitely IS a prank.
The part that killed me was Otto telling Aegon “don’t you think of your father?”. We often forget that yes his ambition and lust for power put Aegon on the throne, but he really did love Viserys like a brother. So then he has the bitter realization “he was right about you”, it just mirrors Rhaenrya’s realization with Daemon “you’re pathetic”. Fantastic episode in my opinion.
I like that Corlys goes for the bdsm
Did he? That’s not love. Aemond killed viserys grandson and all Otto said was “he erred but its fine”. He might have admired him, but someone who loves another would never do what he did.
@@Darkness-ie2ylbro wrong thread?
@@lizflamma4252 Yea i would say he liked Viserys, not loved. But Otto didn't think it was fine to kill Luke. He just thought that the reason for it was a teen getting back at another teen for a wrongful act but taking it too far was due to his rage intensified by his youth, rather than believing Aemond was just psychopathic (since he thinks Aemond killed him on purpose) Plus, you do realize Aemond himself is Viserys's son? Not just some distant relative.
@@rexibhazoboa7097 his response to a teenager angry bc the other didn’t get punished is NOT PUNISHING the grown man that just killed a 10 year old boy.
I didn’t know the word “Trifling” existed in HoTD times, but I’m glad it does cause Otto had me rolling!!!😂😂😂😂😂
Otto (the writers) unleashing that word from his mouth catapulted even more multicultural relatability into the HOTD universe. Not because the word belongs to a certain culture, more so because the word *spans* cultures. Everyone has had a moment where trifling is the best word to describe someone’s behavior.
Agreed. It had me rolling too.
@@co08mtrifling is an extremely old word with roots to 14th century France
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 yes. Hence the multiculturalism aspect as it is currently used today in AAVE and slang in general. So while it is fitting for him to use it, as it is of an earlier time, the word still strikes a chord with today’s audiences because of the way that it is used in modern slang.
@@co08m you and I both know your comment implied “trifling” refers to “a certain culture” 😏
Darth Larys is now canon.
Shit, even sounds like it'd fit.
The look on Otto’s face when he’s told Criston Cole had taken action lololol
Matt Smith's characters: it's difficult to be the queen's consort.
Have to admit, he's really good at it
Not May Smith first rodeo in this role. The Crown as Prince Philip
I absolutely love that Otto had the realization of “HUH, maybe Viserys was right to make Rhaenyra his heir. WHO KNEW?
The thing is, that was Even Otto‘s idea, to keep Daemon away - and he was probably right. His error was to think Rhaenyra would be bad too - or more precisely think Aegon was better.
@@LarthVI think he liked that he could rule through Viserys and wanted to do the same through Aegon, he just didn't account for him being similar to his older sister(ie having their own opinions and being able to say no) 😂
Is it just me, or did anyone else think of Michael Scott yelling "I declare bankruptcy!" when Argon was declaring war?
23:16 Emma is a damn fine actor. I loved their face of realization.
Aegon forgets that the opinion of the smallfolk is a huge part of the war, especially the propaganda portion of the war. If you lose them, you’ve lost half of the war.
Which is ironic because last episode he used the small folk to get otto to back off during the throne room scene when he was talking to Hugh but now he couldn't care less about the small folk.
tbf they couldve created a story to soften the blow. Say the ratcatchers were all conspired in one way or another or smthn
Dragons are better than souped up sports cars in most respects
Aemond is suffering from a severe Oedipus complex. Which explains all his odd behaviors
True. I don't think it was a mistake that the show runners hired a talented AND conventionally beautiful actress like Olivia Cooke to be the mother of two messed up sons. They wanted you to think Oedipal Complex and have many of the men in the audience go, "Yep, It's sick like all things with the Targs, but I understand it when mom is that hot.
@@LeeBeeDeeTree51 it's honestly so disturbing. Like they're not subtle and even Olivia's sex scenes feel so wrong. I'm not sure how to explain since her and Fabien are two objectively good looking people but it feels actually disgusting. It makes me hate seeing both Alicent and Aemond on screen when in season one I found their characters to have the most interesting dynamic and strongest portrayals😢
(Hate seeing Cole on screen at all times but that's cause he's just an ass)
I gotta say I started this season rooting for no one in specific but now I feel like I’m liking Rhaenyra more and more each episode
When Otto said that he didn't want to hear about Alicent's sins I think that he was trying to say that they're already forgiven (judging by his voice & facial expression) but it just didn't come across the way he intended. He likely already knows about the affair from his reaction to Alicent & Criston being together in other scenes.
Otto comes across to me as being an emotionally incompetent but loving family man.
😂 I took it as "no no no you're my baby girl daughter I don't need to hear it" but I almost feel like Alicent wanted to talk about it and get the same reassurance.
Edit: my husband pointing out that Alicent also has the upper hand and would be in a position to give Otto back his job if they exposed Crispy coal.
No he didn’t want to hear it lol
Nah, it's cuz he doesn't want to hear it so he can pretend there's no indiscretion. just like viserys did with rhaenyra that irritated otto so much lol
Yeah I think it's from a boundaries kind of place and he knows that objectively sex didn't cause his grandchild to die. But he really should've told her that. It's like he knows she's overreacting and they need to focus on the bigger issues(Aegon) but man is emotionally constipated and then wonders why his family can't cope with shit and overreact
Naw, he just didn’t care. He has bigger problems than Alicent’s “feelings”. He’s never cared about those.
“Instead he did the dragon lord equivalent of peeling out in his trans am” Love this analogy
Rhaenyra was right. Viserys wasn’t scared of daemon. He couldn’t trust him.
Otto definitely influenced Viserys lack of trust in Daemon imo.
@@SaltyNico920that is a great point. But even with Otto babbling in viserys’s ear about daemon. Viserys knew his brother. After growing up with his brother I don’t think Otto would be able sway his opinion either way. Daemon is untrustworthy.
Otto was on fire!!! 😂🔥💯
Daemon is a dark character but I will always see Larys and Criston Cole as much darker.
Whooee! We have enough DARK in this story to shut down the entire Eastern Seaboard!! 😮
But.. Daemon just ordered a hit on a baby with no remorse.
I didn't even think about the family dysfunction going that many generations. Its obvious now that you highlighted it, but my mind kept focusing on Alicent abd her kids that i didnt think about Otto's second son syndrome. Wow. I dont usually catch streams, but since I'm done with class for the weekend til next term and i caught the tail end of the last, i think I'm gonna come hang with you guys. It seemed like a fun time. Also subbed to Nettles and watched her roast last night while finishing my last assignment 😂. Love the community you guys formed and i share your videos often.
Nettles (and Sean MacArthur) are awesome, yeah! And Tim obviously
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The Targs have an issue with entitlement. That's what makes some of them so cruel & destructive. "It's mine, I want it." Should be their house motto. No concept of actually ruling & serving the realm. The show has introduced this idea that Aegon the first somehow knew of the upcoming Long Night & that was his motivation for invading Westeros. But if that's true, subsequent Targ rulers didn't get the memo. The knowledge was not passed down. Daemon, Criston & Aegon are all immature & hot headed & reactive with no ability to think 3 moves ahead & consider consequences. Having no empathy makes you blind to other's motives since all you can do is project your own id onto others & assume they think like you. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
"it's mine, I want it" hahah CACKLING over here
"yes Dave it's delicious, that's why I'm stealing it"
@@DavidLightbringer take it, I give it freely m'lord
THANK YOU for defending Rhaenys not murdering the greens. I see this topic in my feeds almost daily and it annoys me to no end, so it’s refreshing to hear someone saying it was the right decision.
It was the right decision for her. It was not her battle and not her war, she would have been a Kinslayer for nothing.
This was between Rhaenyra and the Hightowers Otto and Alicent and their puppet king who broke his strings Aegon.
If Rhaenys killed them it would not have secured Rhaenyra's place as queen and worse for Rhaenys it could be viewed as her making a play for the throne for herself because she was passed over 'the queen who never was'
Rhaenys was her fathers heir and he should have been king but because he died first she was passed over for her uncle who also died, then it was between her son Laenor with her being regent and Viserys council chose viserys.
Viserys further insulted Rhaenys by marrying Alicent. So people would have veiwed Rhaenys killing the hightowers as vengence
The problem for me and I think most people wasn't the lack of murdering the greens, it was more due to the fact that she killed dozens of other people, if not more, and wounded probably hundreds with her "epic" exit. It was stupid, and not how it happened in the books (not that I care that much except here it makes way less sense). If Rhaenys saw fit to massacre the smallfolk, perhaps she may have at least ended the war prematurely as well
She probably doesn't care that much, as most Nobles don't, but it certainly puts her in a worse light and its annoying the show never addressed it
@@curranfrank2854 Was there another way for her to get out?
It is more on the Hightowers the people got hurt. they didn't hold the coronation in the throne room with the Iron throne, it was a slap dash hasty coronation.
Until she came up through the floor would Rhaenys have even known there were people above her?
I'd be more annoyed with the gold cloaks who were closing the doors and keeping the crowd of people trying to get out in with the angry dragon
@@n.jboltz599she was swept along with and in the crowd before slipping away to mount her dragon, so she was fully aware that the small folk had been herded in there. I’m not fully disagreeing with you, but saying she was unaware of their presence is just wrong.
@@curranfrank2854i think its more to show how a westerosi noble (and more specifically a targaryen) puts far more emphasis on being labelled a kinslayer rather than actually killing people
Otto reaped what he sowed. He constantly undermined Viserys wishes, whether that was under the directive of his brother or not, this is what it got you. How could he watch Aegon grow and think he would be anywhere close to a good ruler?
yep
too busy scheming
Haven’t watched the video yet- but I just wanted to say how happy I am to open TH-cam this morning and see a new David Lightbringer video!! Best Friday ever!
Rhaenyra needs to make Rhaenys her hand
YES!!!
I don't understand the "the queen who didn't" argument. She killed what - hundreds of people by breaking through the floor with her dragon? The woman killed more innocent people than Bundy, Dahmer and Gacy combined. How is that mature, or a sign of restraint? Also, her action of not killing team green could be seen as short-sighted. This is Westeros and everybody who had been at court must have known that a civil war was inevitable. Otto himself, a character you credited with foresight and restraint, said so. Both sides know what harm dragons do to civilians, when unleashed in war. Just look at the field of fire situation. Wouldn't it have been more merciful to kill a couple of nobles, when she should have known that full war would break out anyway? A civil war I might add, that can only be ended by eradicating one side, unless you want their offspring to start new rebellions. Look at the Blackfyre Rebellions for evidence. I fully agree with your assessment of Aegon. But I think that Daemon was right to call a war council. Ravens had to be sent, so team Black's Allies could be rallied. I don't understand why Rhaenyra is mad at him about that. He IS her second in command and she was in labour and she was in no condition to act at the time. I think it was her right as ruler to countermand his orders, but still, a good leader has to be able to rely on their subordinates.
I think we in the audience are expected to simply see Rhaeny's stomping small-folk with her Dragon as a 'bad-ass' moment and she didn't kill Aegon etc even though that would the logical thing to do in that spot, is simply because the plot didn't need her too. The fact a few episodes later they're trying to sell me on the idea Aegon killing some rat-catchers is something the small-folk are going to be upset all of sudden about is stupid too me, when they've established mass-murder won't even be remarked upon.
I think maybe they were only injured not killed.
@@waltonsmith7210 I find that higly unlikely. There is a) the huge kinetic energy needed to break through a stone floor (btw Rhaenys should have been crushed, she literally got between a rock and a hard place) and b) the fall must have been a long one, because the halls on the lower level must be high enough to house those dragons aaand c) debris
@@blinkusfishus2052this is such a good point
Rhys & Paddy are such heavy hitters as actors. So glad they were on this show & no one is a cartoon villain or hero. Great psychological analysis LML. These characters are a Freudian wet dream 😂
Daemon is a textbook sociopath, while Aegon isn't. But he's getting there!
So we now know Daves' position on Darth Jar Jar theory that's a HOTD development i didn't see coming
Perfect timing for this!!! I needed a new video to watch 🤩 Thank you!
I really enjoyed Otto's scenes in this episode - because he's at fault for his own problems. Aren't we all tbh? His scenes were hilarious. And pretty satisfying
I laughed so hard
I’m back to watch and give my thoughts!
- episode 2 definitely had those key characters details we needed to see to understand why the next events take place the way they do.
-it’s wild to acknowledge the point that Rhaenyra and Otto are the most level headed in the show at this point 😂
-Girl Nettles could’ve used the whole “Daemon being entirely immature-with dash points” thing in her roast the other night
-people don’t learn from their mistakes when they constantly run from them. They learn by picking up the pieces.
-Rhaenyra: *says one things to Daemon*
Daemon: *freaks out due to his own self doubt and anxiety*
-hot take: Alicent was more emotionally intelligent as a young girl (like the scene where her and Rhaenyra are in the temple talking lighting candles) than she is as an adult woman and mother
-“How dare you build a Lego city”
-Hot take 2: Rhaenys would’ve been a good queen, keeping Corlys in line ya know
-Rhaenyra really saw through the bullshit in this episode. Like she really has enough going on and still had the backbone to put Daemon on blast and let him know she was sick of fixing him
-I came into this show in season 1 wanting to love Daemon and be a real “stan” but every time we see him he’s doing something fucked up
-Otto: “…his DIGnity…”🥴
-even after shitting on the council and Rhaenyra and marrying Alicent anyway, Viserys still feels guilty as hell about it and misses Aemma to the point of ignoring his children with Alicent
-🎶Daemon 🎶knows 🎶best ❌
-Hot take 3: Daemon knew how much could go wrong with his little rat and cheese plan. The seed (idea) of offing baby J instead of Aemond may have already been there or it may have been planted when they ask him for a 2nd target, but I think the more he thought about it, the more he hoped something would go wrong. He hoped they’d have to go for their second target.
-Hobart has been telling Otto what to do for his whole life. Then he came and helped Otto implode himself and get fired by giving him the hardest command of all “do your job”
-Aegon thinks him being a King makes him more important than everyone in the realm. But actually being King makes him responsible for the welfare of the realm, but he only considers himself.
-Hot take 4: if Helaena had just screamed one time, one time nice and good, things might’ve ended a little differently
-Otto trying to be Tywin just can’t
- so pumped for episode 3. I have no idea what to look forward to. Up till now I’ve basically known what big events will come up but I’m really in the dark with this one and I’m so psyched!!
yeah I decided not to focus on the issue of what exactly Damon said off camera to blood and cheese because it doesn't matter, and that's why they didn't show us. It doesn't matter what he said, and no one besides him would ever know. what matters is what he did, and what the result was. That's literally all that matters
Otto’s facial expressions this episode are going to be my new reaction memes. They had me ROLLING 😂
Just realized uncle Scar is a Lannister level evil.
22:58 Can we take a moment and appreciate the dubbing of "ClockWork Aemond"? 😂❤😂❤😂 Love it
You're the lightbringer as in bringing "light" to so many truths or angles into the Easter eggs I believe geniuses like Martin and King both do. Know their faithful readers or like minds will find all the truths or lore or patterns in their "worlds "!! Thank you.
Tangent: anyone else remember Rhys Ifans as Little Nicky's devil half brother?
I gotta give you a thumbs up JUST for the Melniboné reference! Gods of my fathers, I haven't thought about Elric in YEARS, yet in one brief reference you brought back memories of Junior and Senior year of reading those novels. Thank you, David, for making me not feel like a freak anymore and proving that SOMEONE besides me has read them.
Bravo. I thoroughly agree with your assessment that one of Viserys' biggest mistakes was concentrating so much on Rhaenyra that he ignored his children with Alicent. Aegon and Aemond were ignored by both parents. Had they grown up with more parental involvement, they might have been better men.
Otto Hightower after hand selecting the king and everyone surrounding him: "I'm surrounded by idiots."
My only problem with Rheanys is that she already massacred a stadium of people and then refused to kill them, i know its probability setup for the smallfolk, but man, thinking about it irks me
Keep up the great work David Beezy
The thing about Otto I constantly ponder is whether he actually thought Rhaenyra was unfit because she was a woman or if he just completely overestimated the misogyny in the realm, thinking that if a woman should sit the throne, regardless how fit she was, everybody would rise in rebellion the next day.
I think Otto knows exactly what Alicent is up to with Krispy and said he doesn't want to hear about it because who would want to know that about their daughter.
Lmao! Dude, u be Psycho-analysing my entire lifestory! 😂😂😂
Great breakdown of the episode, very indepth n entertaining! 🎉
I actually felt kinda bad for Aemond in this episode. I don’t think he really meant to kill his nephew but he should have thought abt the consequences before he hopped on flying Godzilla to troll him. Cuz Vhagar gone stand on business every time and now we’re here. lol *sigh* “ill considered! Trifling!” 😂
DLB fan comments are the best comments! This is yet another of Dave's excellent expos on aspects of the human condition (in this case maturity) which resonates deeply. I'm also very much looking forward to the next Lore update on dragon dreams.
Love your content💕you really enrich the experience of this show for me!
fffff… I’m 53 and I just got confirmation that I’m not mature. 😢
look I have ADHD so I struggle with some of that stuff - I can be moody, impatient, and obviously anyone with ADHD has issues with various forms of self control. but I don't storm out of rooms, I do apologize, I do take accountability when I fuck up, and I've finally learned not to judge others to remedy my internal conflict
@@DavidLightbringer heh. I think we have discussed this once before. I also have severed adhd. like 99 percentile. like, 40 years of bs treatment and non treatment and neuro-psych testing, and you are 100% correct.
My wife knows I will always come back and apologize, and as I have gotten older and fully grasped how that affects my reactions and moods, it helps me recognize in the moment how my adhd is fighting with me.
Do you think Larys had the guards removed so Blood & Cheese could carry out their dark deeds unhindered? And since the eyebrows maid heard Helaena’s prophecy and saw Blood before disappearing- will Larys realize Helaena is a dragon dreamer and how will he use that?
I think it's possible he removed the guards. not sure about the the rest
AAAAAHHH never been this early! I love your work David Lightbringer!!!
Also this is a wonderful & captivating video!! You’re a treat to all us ASOIAF fans. You’re The Realm’s Delight!
You're right, Daemon and Aegon both seem to think they are surrounded by idiots and/or cowards and weaklings. Great video.
I support Daemon's rights. And his wrongs.
This is becoming my favorite YT channel overall! 🔥
I didn't realize it was milk of the poppy. I thought it was regular milk to symbolize Aemond still being a child needing mothering. Did anybody else think that?
Whether it’s milk or milk of the poppy I think the symbolism stands. Everything in that scene just screams lost little boy looking for mommy.
@@WeaselSoup-su5yu Agreed
it still did symbolize that
@DavidLightbringer Absolutely, and it adds a whole deeper dimension to it. Thanks for pointing that out
Your analyses of each episode are miles better than any other HOTD content...person (creator? maker?). You really break things down and (speaking for myself anyway) make the writers' and characters' decisions make sense
thank you! I think the writing on the show makes MORE sense the more you think about it, as opposed to the opposite
The idea of getting away with crimes, especially kinslaying, is anathema to confessing & admitting it.
Great video! Would definitely love to a video on George’s historical inspirations to the Dance specifically too. Otto is so Warwick the Kingmaker coded. I think the tv show is also showing the parallels in modern historians “revealing” the facts about The War of the Roses and how much the winners wrote history (lookin at you Billy Shakes)
the last thing I thought I was gunna see in one of your videos was a Darth Jar Jar reference, I love when my interests crossover in the most unexpected way😂
The new song absolutely SLAPS! Love it so much. Love the Hightower model too.
This is an absolutely brilliant video. I agree with your analysis 100%.
I'm more excited for the hand necklace than I know I should be.
Amazing video! 💚👏Great analysis
Now we’re talking… Praise Be!
Beautiful analysis of the Daemon v Rhaenyra scene. I especially love that Viserys is an invisible party to the conversation, as he is with Otto and Aegon. He is so loved and yet nobody is honoring his true wishes: to have peace in his family and the realm.
The Elric reference was so very on point
Epic video. Thanks David.
Love your work as always
"Aemond of Melnibone" okay that one got me dave well played.
I was glad he figured out how much he messed up.
Really Great video! 👌😉
This episode made me respect Otto. I dont like him at all and i feel he is very much partially to blame for this whole war and family turmoil. But i respect him as a politician. Also something i think you overlooked about Otto's relationship with Aegon was his abuse of Aegon, i site the part of Laena's furneral episode, were we see him hitting a young drunk Aegon. So id say that part of why Aegon rejects Otto as an advisor is that he realized he is more powerful then him. But i also did love Otto's realization of Aegon's unfitness to the position
So much praise for Rhanys not ending it in the Dragon Pit. I suppose the tens of thousands who died instead will be happy.
That is probably the single worst moment of HotD...
I mean the only thing wrong is that we haven't seen the cost of the event, but then again Otto mentioned how poorly it went as a bad omen that is affecting how people see Aegon. I'm sure some people hate Rhaenys because of it too, I'd like to see that reaction in KL in a future episode.
But Rhaenys is an elitist, so it makes sense that she weighs the lives of her kin who are royals differently than the commoners. Still I agree it didn't necessarily fit her character to kill so many
Like David said. That moment hasnt even come to its resolution. How could you possibly come to that conclusion when it hasn't even been paid off yet? Foresight is one hell of a thing.
😂 I saw it as Targaryen being Targaryen, those hundreds of lives didn't matter for them. Probably this act, along with blood and cheese, will fall into Rhaenyra's lap when she comes to power. They will use it against Rhaenyra for sure, dealing with Aegon's mistakes as king, then dealing with her own mistakes will eventually lead to the Dragon Pit incident.
It was probably more some dozens or hundreds, but yeah, still the single bloodiest event so far by a long shot…
I'm so glad I found your content
Another great one! Thanks
Good summary David.
Just dropping a comment for the algorithm! Thanks for the new vid!
Great analysis as usual ❤
I have a question: Blood dropped a torch and it focused on it rolling under a table while still being lit, I assumed that'd have some significance in Ep2. Why was that such a focal point of the scene?
Good question
Perhaps it will soon be resolved at some point throughout the season. Ofttimes these things can be called back upon 1, 2, even 4+ episodes later.
I thought the room was going to catch fire, compounding the misery of the night
@@maishaahmed915 same. Something
Daemon flouncing away had James Dean/James from Twin Peaks vibes, with him off sulking on his Harley Dragon. What you runnin' from Daemon? What you got? Frightening how much he reminds me of Boris Johnson.
Aemond is such a droog, you got that spot on. "I'm singing in the Reynes".
The highlight for me, though, was Otto's wtf has Cole done? face. Rhys Ifans is absolute wildfire in this show.
Excellent analysis DL.
great chatacter analysis, David!
Ashes are a symbol of sorrow.. let’s spill a bucketful..🌋
Otto's face tells all! lol
Beautiful analysis
Perfect Rhaenyra thumbnail
But Rhaenys killed a bunch of people aka smallfolk when she burst out of the floor with her dragon 🤔 Truly a great person
didn't say great, I said mature. she's an elitist obviously. and I think they meant to show us that she had no other way out, but it seemed like she did, which made it confusing
@@DavidLightbringer I love your content btw ❤️
The thing is Rhaenys doing that was strictly a show thing for spectacle and quite a bit out of character, however the Blood and Cheese incident was Daemon’s idea and carried out by him while Aegon did foolishly fire his grandfather and make Criston Cole hand, who in turn did send Ser Arryk to try and kill Rhaenyra by pretending to be his brother. All of that is actually canon, not just in the show, but in the books.
The show writers literally admitted that scene was added because it looked cool.
Maybe they were just injured.
I can’t wait for episode 3 I wonder what that picture mean on twitter with daemon standing under a weirwood tree
I like the new intro ❤
Happy mfn Friday to us ❤
Glad I found your channel even if I have accidentally spoiled myself some from it 😅
sorry i try to give warnings where appropriate but yeah I am mostly book-centric in the offseason
Aegon and Aemond give me mixed feelings.
Aegon has done monstrous things and has no thought towards the impact of his actions, but I still have low-key sympathy for him. He wants to feel loved and accepted, so he aquiesses the demands of his family in the hope that they will eventually provide him with the assurance and affection that he needs, but they never do.
Aemond is an emotional represser (which has tragic consequences). Aemond was cursed by his family for claiming Vhagar, even though he did nothing wrong in that, and his assailant(s) were never acknowledged as doing wrong either. The whole morality of that situation was flipped on its head, so of course, Aemond is angry.
Makes me wonder what these two young men would have been like with different parents. 😢