Correction: the Susquehannock tribe was different from the Lenni Lanape, and the two groups didn’t get along very well. The Susquehannock Indians were later called the Conestogans by the English settlers.
The Susquehannock’s capital was in Lancaster. they are one of the very few Native American nations, that built, foundational homes. One of the most intelligent and advanced amongst the Native Americans. They were one of the most feared, if not the most feared. They were known as “giants” because they were so tall. Taller than most of that time. They were also very good, very very good at war. They were indeed a warrior tribe, and very known and feared for it. Their nation went from what is now part of NY, down to Washington DC, with their capital being what is now Lancaster. After they got betrayed, and over 90% of them killed by europeans, the survivors, which was very few would move and later called the Conestoga. I can go into greater detail on that in the Susquehannock, but that is a lot to type. I am an historian by the way, mostly in 18th & 19th century America. But a historian nonetheless, with a Bachelor and Masters in it.
@@Lynette.usa. the Susquehanna nation went from what is now part of New York, all the way down to Washington DC. Their capital was what is now Lancaster. They were the tallest of all the Native Americans, an average of 7 feet. They were feared as the most warrior type of all the native Americans, was one of the hardest for the Europeans to defeat. Along with the Europeans, it was their own greed that brought their downfall? York County areas was mostly their hunting and trading areas. Lancaster is where they thrived and mostly lived. unlike other native Americans, they built homes with foundations.
I live less than a mile from the home of the last Lenape Indian. Her name was Hannah. Edit: I just looked her up. Her full name was Hannah Freeman and she was born in 1731 and died in 1802. She died as a pauper in a residential home for very poor elderly or cognitively impaired people. I sure wish I could have met her. Our indigenous history is truly fascinating.
@@RebelJew777 Have they found any Foundations in Lancaster? If so are they marked or allowed visitors? At Indian Steps there is a Museum. Also there are rocks in the Susquehanna that have drawings of warriors with birds and snake, etc.
I live in Philly and I love our areas history. I never knew of this place. Gonna have to check it out in the Spring. These old bones don't do to well in the cold. Lol!! Thanks for sharing this. I just subscribed to your channel.
I’m obsessed with the history of our area. The colony of New Sweden is fascinating. The Natives were treated well by the Swedes, and when the English were gaining more influence over the colony, they needed the Swedes to translate with the Indigenous population because they were so reluctant to speak English.
The James Mitchner book Chrsapeake is a great read fleshing out the history of a Pa indigenous lone wolf and he history of the wider region including DC. I learned so much. Thanks for this lovely generous video!
The beaver statue and plaque were stolen over Easter weekend 2021, no doubt for the value of their metal. A $5,000 reward was offered. As far as I know they've never been found.
As kids in the early 70's, me and a kid across the crick (Wallingford) spent many summer days walking up to this point. Fishing, mostly exploring. There was a dam at the Sackville mill just down stream from what is called the old mill. It broke during Agnes in '72 I believe. Buildings on both banks connected by a bridge that we used to cross in the winter. The mill was bulldozed maybe late 80's, the bridge remained until very recent, I was surprised to see it gone last visit Thxgvng. '24. We found alot of interesting china, glassware , pottery, bottles, iron etc. that I believe had been trapped by the dam. My dad took most of what we brought home and reburied it in the woods in the mid 80's. Thank you for the interesting video of this beautiful and memorable area.
The algorithms brought me here. I’ve been exploring SWPA because I am working on restoring the zebra swallowtail back to Pittsburgh. I generally look at waterways that lead to Pittsburgh but I too find lots of slag and old paths. I think that the zebra swallowtail still flies in your area.
Lots of memories for me there as well. We would walk from SHHS to either rose valley woods or across to the college woods…. I remember one time Clancy and Mr reed were down at the mill waiting to catch us skipping 😂 I guess we weren’t very slick. I want to go back to no internet. We had so much fun with no screens to be found except for your dealers pager😂 and all you needed was a quarter … or a paper clip. Hurricane agnes flooded that area and surely along with others but in recent history that flood would have displaced much of the valley’s artifacts. Thanks for the trip down the memory hole.
My ancestors settled in Cambria county in the 1700’s. Thank you for loving this beautiful land and remembering these wonderful people who lived here before us. I want to paint that last view of the creek . So nice.
You've started a Utube channel from Delco. Great. Our interests are similar, I love the creeks around here too. I've been to Chihokia several times. I was born not far from the mighty Mississippi. Will check out more of your talks and walks.
I live in Lenni and my grandfather and then my uncle are the Porters who had the house by Porter Lane. Loads of Porters in Rose Valley. Thanks for uploading this.
WOW! Bringing back some memories. I grew up in Chester and Brookhaven in the '50s-'60s. The rich history of the area always fascinated me, and gave us many wonderful places to explore. My favorites were Chester and Ridley Creeks, Brandywine Battlefield and Chadds Ford, and Chester Park in the winter. My folks were members of the Brookhaven Swim Club, Field & Stream Assoc., and West End Boat Club. My Dad's family had a big old house at 3rd and Reaney in Chester, and ran the Liberty Bottling Works and Beer Distributorship - there was always something going on. As little kids, maybe 10 or 11 years old - my friends and I helped excavate the Caleb Pusey house in Upland. I got sick from being down in the well and trash pit, and so had to stop - but every day was an exciting treasure hunt.
You are a true American one who treasures ours countries past and recognize that there were many different kinds of people that lived on that very land and prospered. You respect and know the value of our woodlands and waterways of our country and these places must be preserved for the future generations. Those that come on these paths toss their garbage destroy the land and trees 🌳 are not true Americans they value nothing other then their own selfish desire’s.
A friend who grew up in Broomall remembers the Bergdoll mansion up on the hill that you mentioned. They said when it was abandoned but prior to burning it was a hangout by local kids. He remembers being there but it is hazy as he was very young. The fire was pretty big news. Story goes that the Bergdolls were very rich and the sons were notorious draft dodgers during the second world war.
I just came across your video and so enjoyed it! I grew up in Delco, not too far from where you are in this, and now live in Chester County. I've always been fascinated by the pre-colonial history of our area, so I've just subscribed to watch more. I don't know if you've ever visited the White Clay Creek Preserve, but there was a large Lenni Lenape settlement in that area at one point. The location's unknown, but there are some ruins from more recent history. Thanks for sharing!
Lenope territory reached all the way over to Stroudsburg Pennsylvania . I have native route here in Pennsylvania and my European roots have been here long enough we have a family deed signed by William Penn himself . Pennsylvania is rich with American Native History .
My daughter and granddaughters with myself, have been hiking for several years. The girls love exploring. We even panned for gold in Allegheny Forest. Similar to what you are doing.😊
I've been in Pennsylvania for about 6 years now, and I found out about so many hidden places. Majority of them are swimming holes. But it's funny to me how most of the locals have no idea about the amazing things hidden away in their states.
The artifacts are very much still around. I metal detect that area as well as hundreds of others around the area. When I was a kid i dug up spear heads and clay just as you said 11:45. I am not digging anything up but the history is there.
I live in Doylestown, my property boatders Del Val university, I've found numerous artifacts in the creek on my property, I enjoy your videos keep up the good work!!@@solguud
I am not far from the Pine Creek Rail Trail and one of the trailheads. It used to be a native foot path along Pine Creek. The creek was used as a canal briefly as well as to float timber. Later a railroad was built along the creek. First using wooden trestles, then around 1900 iron/steel trestles were constructed which remain standing to this day. The railroad ceased operation around the 1980's and in the mid to late 90's was converted into a rail trail which is around 60 miles long, and goes across the trestles which were converted for foot and bicycle traffic. Along the northern section near Wellsboro, there is a section where they do horse drawn covered wagon rides while talking about the history of the area.
First of all… you are beautiful Secondly… this is amazing. What a heritage. The oldest road. Pennsylvania has such incredible history. I’ve been told most of our modern roads were originally Indian horse paths. Since they were the best way to maneuver around the landscape, we simply ended up turning them into our modern paved roads.
Hard to say. Most were probably foot paths as horse's weren't introduced to The America's until The Conquistador's invaded. The originals would have been trap line's. The waterways were also the highways of the time. When traveling here you are either crossing water or climbing mountains.
History is written in stone. The ancient people of America left their mark everywhere, and you can see it if you know what to look for. Look for rocks that look like animals and people. Your mind will be blown. Thank you for the video. I will be looking for more.
@@phillyrocks3847 appreciate the kind words! I will keep an eye out for interesting looking rocks. I know there are petroglyphs on some big rocks in the Susquehanna river
@solguud Thank you. I worked in Delco last year. I went across the tracks where Rt.1 crosses the Darby creek, behind the Shop Rite. I found a rock that is in the shape of an anaconda. My wife and Ihave a zoo of paleo art in my house. If you ever want to find this stuff hit me up.
Hey! This is cool. I know exactly where this is, as I’ve seen folks walking on it from the other side of the creek driving down knowlton road. Now I know where to access it. Have you ever been in the old mill at the bottom of east 25th street? It’s pretty cool. I rent a rehearsal space in it. Also you look very familiar.
I literally drive through Rose Valley every day going to work. The houses in the beginning of the video are familiar. I’ll have to look for the path. Never knew you were allowed to walk along it. the Lenni Lenape Indian was the mascot of Ridley HS.
Thank you for sharing your information. I followed on Google maps where you are walking. Knowing the old mill location, I see on Google that the path you're walking isn't marked in green like others are in the area. I hope that gets added on Google.
The large chunks of slag might be waist from a crucible steel or just a steel foundery/factory. Many years ago, it was common for the factory to dump waist along the river. There might be a slag pile up river from your location. I have found the same chunks of slag in Union NJ. I have located the slag heap. I also have found the cast away crucible for making the steel.
Farmers fields dug up in the spring have lots of arrowheads. An artifact hunter told me that’s where he finds them. When rows are created in big fields , the arrowheads have been brought to the surface. He told me the sandstone arrowheads are the oldest.
I grew up by the green lane reservoir in Montgomery County. Many artifacts have been found when in times of drought. It's the perkiomen creek that eventually meets the skyuykill River. Sorry for butchered name. Keep on looking you will find things
Nice video, and I love your enthusiasm and curiosity. It would be a good idea to get a little better grasp of the history details so that you don't share incorrect facts, and consult some indigenous sources and people. There are good websites with plenty of historical information by both scholarly and indigenous sources and the Pennsylvania Historical Society's history text of Pennsylvania, as well as the Lenape tribal organizations in the area. There is a book on 'Indian trails and roads" in Pennsylvania and others that would be of interest to you. Here's what I've put together for a class I've taught on indigenous and colonial geography, and I hope it is correct. I am not indigenous, but I do have an interest in indigenous culture and history, attend some powwows and have taken beginner courses in one indigenous language. I do not speak for or as an indigenous person, so I hope I speak truly and am forgiven what I say incorrectly. The Susquehannocks were in their ascendancy during the first half of the 1600s, when they traded with all four European powers in the regions - French, English, Dutch, and English. Their last major town was on the west side of the Susquehanna River east of York. They even had a cannon there. They were likely from what is now New York state, being related to but driven out by the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) confederacy in the 1500s maybe. More recent than 'ancient.' The Lenape (Lenni and Lenape are both names that mean 'the people' so it is redundant to use both of them together) lived throughout the Delaware River Valley up into New York state. Minqua was likely a derogatory name they gave to the Susquehannocks, their enemies, who, as you noted, defeated them around 1630 before smallpox wreaked havoc on both nations. The Lenape are an Algonquin people, while the Susquehannock were Iroquoian, two major cultural groups. The Lenape of the 1600s were just as sophisticated as the Susquehannocks, and had resided in the Delaware River Valley for centuries upon centuries. They were known as grandfathers among the nations in the region, and often served a diplomatic role. The Susquehannocks were more removed from the earliest colonial settlements, so they were more of an unknown factor, and didn't survive as a nation the way the Lenapes have. After the Susquehannock's ascendancy was broken, they were attacked by their Iroquoian cousins and largely absorbed into the tribe. Later, there was set up what was basically a reservation or refugee camp called Conestoga Indian Town, where some remnants of the Susquehannock nation lived a pretty sad life - 'beggars and broommakers,' one older source says, until they were attacked and killed by the Paxton Boys in revenge for an attack on settlers that had nothing to do with them.
Thanks for your information. I grew up in Swarthmore, PA, so I am familiar in a novice way with Lenape landmarks in Delaware County. I now live in North Central Massachusetts not too far away from the Mohawk Trail near Leominster. This old Indian stuff is fascinating. It is appalling how our white ancestors treated these people, e.g., the Paxton story. I know that the native tribes were not always kind to their relatives, but that was their way and heritage, so it doesn't seem as bad as invaders wreaking having on their lives to me.
Wo! The algorithm gods threw me a gem! Great video! Hey, check out "Freedom," by Sebastian Junger. He discusses (among other things) native Americans in PA.
You are in Muskrat territory. Closer to Media you can stand on a big hill and watch them swim at the creeks edge. And watch for creek snakes, they sun themselves between logs so look before you step over an obstacle.
The most interesting video I’ve seen on TH-cam and weeks. I believe that the revenge of the native peoples is that their spirits still walk among the land? We just can’t see them. I’m originally from Germantown and as a boy I spent a lot of time in Valley Green, which is a park. There are at least four Lene Lenape trails , on either side of the Wissahickon Creek. When I was 23 I spent time in Nebraska and when you walk through a field or through a wooded area or by a creek, you feel their presents. Whether it’s 200 years ago or if I’m 1000 years ago. Americans idea of history begins and ends whatever the current news is for a week two weeks and distracted by something else. I have a friend who is a monastery in upstateNew York. There’s a mountain across the road from their buildings where if you climb up it. You can still see the little walls of piled up stones sectioning off different parts of the field that once was farmland, but now the trees have overgrown it. Those sectioned plots of land and those walls have got to be at least 225 years old 30 years old something like that..
@@Ettoredipugnar that's fascinating! I was born in Germantown too before moving to Delco. I'll look into those Indian trails. You are so right about the landscape and how old it is.
@@solguud I asked because at one time there were many Italians in Germantown. My mother used to say that no matter where you go., you always meet somebody from Germantown.
@@marielvanhees9531 I knew someone would find it eventually. My secret place will not be secret for much longer... I almost regret posting this video! 😆 but great job
i know bunch cool places in pa if u go to lancaster theres a church in town with a cort yard with grave sites in middle of town and one of stones says fought next to george washing ton .............. i saw it my own eyes but that was 20 years ago im 43 now
@butchlauer ah yknow you might be right! Very cool thanks for noticing that. Honestly I don't remember it being there but maybe I've just forgotten it. Is it a particular kind of post from a specific time period?
@@brynmawrbuilders5419 I'll just say it's in rose valley. Don't want to give the exact spot but if you are really stumped you can ask the rose valley museum, they'll probably tell ya. Good luck!
Whatever ancient paths or dwellings areas you’re walking, they are buried underneath you by several feet as is always the case with ancient history and ground level. And where there’s quartz , there may be gold to pan.
That's an excellent point. It would be great if the precolonial layers are in tact down there in the soil. I've thought about panning there. There are garnets here in Delco too.
Great history. Where is the location of the plaque you began at? (Google maps shows a spot near West Chester University.) What would be the best stretch for a ~10 mile walk without too many busy roads?
Correction: the Susquehannock tribe was different from the Lenni Lanape, and the two groups didn’t get along very well. The Susquehannock Indians were later called the Conestogans by the English settlers.
Susquehannock Tribe were at Indian Steps/Susquehanna River York County. I live in York County, PA.
The Susquehannock’s capital was in Lancaster. they are one of the very few Native American nations, that built, foundational homes. One of the most intelligent and advanced amongst the Native Americans. They were one of the most feared, if not the most feared. They were known as “giants” because they were so tall. Taller than most of that time. They were also very good, very very good at war. They were indeed a warrior tribe, and very known and feared for it. Their nation went from what is now part of NY, down to Washington DC, with their capital being what is now Lancaster. After they got betrayed, and over 90% of them killed by europeans, the survivors, which was very few would move and later called the Conestoga. I can go into greater detail on that in the Susquehannock, but that is a lot to type. I am an historian by the way, mostly in 18th & 19th century America. But a historian nonetheless, with a Bachelor and Masters in it.
@@Lynette.usa. the Susquehanna nation went from what is now part of New York, all the way down to Washington DC. Their capital was what is now Lancaster. They were the tallest of all the Native Americans, an average of 7 feet. They were feared as the most warrior type of all the native Americans, was one of the hardest for the Europeans to defeat. Along with the Europeans, it was their own greed that brought their downfall? York County areas was mostly their hunting and trading areas. Lancaster is where they thrived and mostly lived. unlike other native Americans, they built homes with foundations.
I live less than a mile from the home of the last Lenape Indian. Her name was Hannah. Edit: I just looked her up. Her full name was Hannah Freeman and she was born in 1731 and died in 1802. She died as a pauper in a residential home for very poor elderly or cognitively impaired people. I sure wish I could have met her. Our indigenous history is truly fascinating.
@@RebelJew777 Have they found any Foundations in Lancaster? If so are they marked or allowed visitors? At Indian Steps there is a Museum. Also there are rocks in the Susquehanna that have drawings of warriors with birds and snake, etc.
Thank you for keeping this history alive.
@@alexmakitka265 youre welcome and also please thank rose valley municipalities and relevant nonprofits for keeping these places wild and free
You know your in PA when you see the historic blue signs lol... I live in Bucks Co. , great video!
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Hi im in Doylestown area
I live in Philly and I love our areas history. I never knew of this place. Gonna have to check it out in the Spring. These old bones don't do to well in the cold. Lol!! Thanks for sharing this. I just subscribed to your channel.
@@edr.3229 good to wait for the spring when it's less slippery on the way down the trail too. Glad to share this spot with you. All the best!
There is an old Lenni Lenape burial ground above a certain section of Chester Creek in Aston. I can almost see it from my bedroom window.
@@carlstrickland7960 ooooh very mysterious, I may have to try to find it...
Where exactly?
Please, you must take me!! 🤣
Pretty cool
Don’t fuck around on those grounds. There are spirits and demons waiting to latch on to your soul 😱
I’m obsessed with the history of our area. The colony of New Sweden is fascinating. The Natives were treated well by the Swedes, and when the English were gaining more influence over the colony, they needed the Swedes to translate with the Indigenous population because they were so reluctant to speak English.
History is so interesting. Thank you for showing us a piece of it. 👍
Thanks for sharing. That has been my backyard for 60 years. Spent many hours on the grounds you are walking.
If you have any stories about living there, I'd be curious to hear em. Thanks for watching my video. I hope I did it justice.
The James Mitchner book Chrsapeake is a great read fleshing out the history of a Pa indigenous lone wolf and he history of the wider region including DC. I learned so much. Thanks for this lovely generous video!
@@HearturMind You're welcome. Thanks for the recommendation!
I remember reading that years ago. Only to have my parents buy in Doylestown, hometown of Michener
@@samanthab1923Really? I had no clue he was from Doylestown. Thanks.
@ Yup, there’s even a Michener Museum. It’s on Pine St in the old Bucks Co prison.
The beaver statue and plaque were stolen over Easter weekend 2021, no doubt for the value of their metal. A $5,000 reward was offered. As far as I know they've never been found.
As kids in the early 70's, me and a kid across the crick (Wallingford) spent many summer days walking up to this point. Fishing, mostly exploring. There was a dam at the Sackville mill just down stream from what is called the old mill. It broke during Agnes in '72 I believe. Buildings on both banks connected by a bridge that we used to cross in the winter. The mill was bulldozed maybe late 80's, the bridge remained until very recent, I was surprised to see it gone last visit Thxgvng. '24. We found alot of interesting china, glassware , pottery, bottles, iron etc. that I believe had been trapped by the dam. My dad took most of what we brought home and reburied it in the woods in the mid 80's. Thank you for the interesting video of this beautiful and memorable area.
@@61RdlyKryk79 Thanks for sharing your story. I will look up the location of that bridge and the dam.
@@solguud The bridge is still visible on google maps.
Thanks for this video. I’m currently researching the great Philadelphia wagon road and this trail bed is arguably the first instance of that
Great HISTORY LESSON, VERY WELL DONE! THANK YOU SIR👍
@@johnrichard6639 thank you!!
The algorithms brought me here. I’ve been exploring SWPA because I am working on restoring the zebra swallowtail back to Pittsburgh. I generally look at waterways that lead to Pittsburgh but I too find lots of slag and old paths. I think that the zebra swallowtail still flies in your area.
Really cool there is so much untold history in the area!
Thanks for sharing this beautiful piece of History!
@@cindyconcordia3189 you're very welcome!
Lots of memories for me there as well.
We would walk from SHHS to either rose valley woods or across to the college woods…. I remember one time Clancy and Mr reed were down at the mill waiting to catch us skipping 😂 I guess we weren’t very slick.
I want to go back to no internet. We had so much fun with no screens to be found except for your dealers pager😂 and all you needed was a quarter … or a paper clip.
Hurricane agnes flooded that area and surely along with others but in recent history that flood would have displaced much of the valley’s artifacts.
Thanks for the trip down the memory hole.
Thank you very much for sharing! I will find the trail and tread gently 😊
Thanks for Sharing! Love hearing about the local history! Beautiful area for sure! 😎
Glad you enjoyed it
My ancestors settled in Cambria county in the 1700’s. Thank you for loving this beautiful land and remembering these wonderful people who lived here before us. I want to paint that last view of the creek . So nice.
Thank you so much for posting this ! I’ve been hiking near the brandywine and have felt the indigenous presence!
I have found artifacts of white glass
Pretty cool. I grew up in Swarthmore. I know of Rose Valley. I live in Massachusetts now. Moved away from PA in 1993.
So much history is all around us. Very cool video
THANKS PLEASE DO MORE OF THESE I WOULD LOVE TO BRING MY GRANDCHILDREN ALONG AND TEACH THEM SOME ANCIENT HISTORY
Pretty cool. I used to live in SEPA but ended up back at home in south west Connecticut. You are making me miss it.
You've started a Utube channel from Delco. Great. Our interests are similar, I love the creeks around here too. I've been to Chihokia several times. I was born not far from the mighty Mississippi. Will check out more of your talks and walks.
@@jimmylowe4575 I hope to visit monks mound someday. Thanks for the kind words!
I live in Lenni and my grandfather and then my uncle are the Porters who had the house by Porter Lane. Loads of Porters in Rose Valley.
Thanks for uploading this.
many Indian artifacts, arrow heads etc. have been found alongside the Brandywine river in Chester county
@@richardbarrett-v8e yes! I go tubing there all the time. I'll do video there when the weather warms up.
I lived in Glenmoore PA years ago. Lenni Lenape burial grounds. So much hidden history there. Good area to research.
Enjoyed this calming, interesting video. Will check out more of your stuff, like the Crumhenge one. I dig distant history.
@@fifteen8 Thanks!
Ooo!! my county! I'll have to check this out!!
WOW! Bringing back some memories. I grew up in Chester and Brookhaven in the '50s-'60s. The rich history of the area always fascinated me, and gave us many wonderful places to explore. My favorites were Chester and Ridley Creeks, Brandywine Battlefield and Chadds Ford, and Chester Park in the winter. My folks were members of the Brookhaven Swim Club, Field & Stream Assoc., and West End Boat Club. My Dad's family had a big old house at 3rd and Reaney in Chester, and ran the Liberty Bottling Works and Beer Distributorship - there was always something going on. As little kids, maybe 10 or 11 years old - my friends and I helped excavate the Caleb Pusey house in Upland. I got sick from being down in the well and trash pit, and so had to stop - but every day was an exciting treasure hunt.
Very very cool video! I’m about 3 miles away and a huge history fan. Appreciate it!
Thank you!!
Nice video, I appreciate the Delco history.
@@ctcosta stick around for more!
You are a true American one who treasures ours countries past and recognize that there were many different kinds of people that lived on that very land and prospered. You respect and know the value of our woodlands and waterways of our country and these places must be preserved for the future generations. Those that come on these paths toss their garbage destroy the land and trees 🌳 are not true Americans they value nothing other then their own selfish desire’s.
@@sunshade1000 beautifully said. Thanks for the kind words 🙏
Thank you for sharing this video.
@@alexo1226 my pleasure, thanks for watching
This is so interesting. Im from Delco. Grew up in Darby and now im in Lancaster County where the Amish are.
Have that same sign right outside my house in West Chester.
@@terryhannan7821 that's cool. I may try to find it!
@@solguud It's just south of the University at Giunta Lane and South High Street.
Right on South High Street. 842 block.
I’ve done a bit of stone work up in Rose Valley. The museum is pretty awesome. There is some awesome history in Delco.
A friend who grew up in Broomall remembers the Bergdoll mansion up on the hill that you mentioned. They said when it was abandoned but prior to burning it was a hangout by local kids. He remembers being there but it is hazy as he was very young. The fire was pretty big news. Story goes that the Bergdolls were very rich and the sons were notorious draft dodgers during the second world war.
Nice. Thank you ❤. Subscribed 😊
Know the place well grew up in Glen Riddle Middletown , pa
You need to make a video along the Delaware river near governor Printz Park
thank you, very interesting.
I just came across your video and so enjoyed it! I grew up in Delco, not too far from where you are in this, and now live in Chester County. I've always been fascinated by the pre-colonial history of our area, so I've just subscribed to watch more. I don't know if you've ever visited the White Clay Creek Preserve, but there was a large Lenni Lenape settlement in that area at one point. The location's unknown, but there are some ruins from more recent history. Thanks for sharing!
Lenope territory reached all the way over to Stroudsburg Pennsylvania . I have native route here in Pennsylvania and my European roots have been here long enough we have a family deed signed by William Penn himself . Pennsylvania is rich with American Native History .
GREAT video!!! 🙂
Thank you! 😊
My daughter and granddaughters with myself, have been hiking for several years. The girls love exploring. We even panned for gold in Allegheny Forest. Similar to what you are doing.😊
Great Video!
@@ub6ilb975 thanks!
Good stuff. Love the Native American history in Pa. Come do the Stepping Stones in Huntington/Centre.
@@dgerdes2690 I'll look into that. Thanks for the tip!
I'll look into that. Thanks for the tip!
I've been in Pennsylvania for about 6 years now, and I found out about so many hidden places. Majority of them are swimming holes. But it's funny to me how most of the locals have no idea about the amazing things hidden away in their states.
I ised to dig up arrow heads in my backyard and surrounding woods in staten isand ny
Unfortunately, many citizens of our country do not respect our history. It’s very sad really.
The artifacts are very much still around. I metal detect that area as well as hundreds of others around the area. When I was a kid i dug up spear heads and clay just as you said 11:45. I am not digging anything up but the history is there.
Very cool video thanks! I'm glad you made the correction as I was going to comment on your error.
@@DanCarlin-o1t thanks. I'm just a local, not a historian, so I'm learning myself. Any info or corrections you have, please feel free
I live in Doylestown, my property boatders Del Val university, I've found numerous artifacts in the creek on my property, I enjoy your videos keep up the good work!!@@solguud
I am not far from the Pine Creek Rail Trail and one of the trailheads. It used to be a native foot path along Pine Creek. The creek was used as a canal briefly as well as to float timber. Later a railroad was built along the creek. First using wooden trestles, then around 1900 iron/steel trestles were constructed which remain standing to this day. The railroad ceased operation around the 1980's and in the mid to late 90's was converted into a rail trail which is around 60 miles long, and goes across the trestles which were converted for foot and bicycle traffic. Along the northern section near Wellsboro, there is a section where they do horse drawn covered wagon rides while talking about the history of the area.
First of all… you are beautiful
Secondly… this is amazing. What a heritage. The oldest road. Pennsylvania has such incredible history. I’ve been told most of our modern roads were originally Indian horse paths. Since they were the best way to maneuver around the landscape, we simply ended up turning them into our modern paved roads.
Thank you for the kind words. I agree, Pennsylvania has incredible history.
Hard to say. Most were probably foot paths as horse's weren't introduced to The America's until The Conquistador's invaded. The originals would have been trap line's. The waterways were also the highways of the time. When traveling here you are either crossing water or climbing mountains.
History is written in stone. The ancient people of America left their mark everywhere, and you can see it if you know what to look for. Look for rocks that look like animals and people. Your mind will be blown. Thank you for the video. I will be looking for more.
@@phillyrocks3847 appreciate the kind words! I will keep an eye out for interesting looking rocks. I know there are petroglyphs on some big rocks in the Susquehanna river
@solguud Thank you. I worked in Delco last year. I went across the tracks where Rt.1 crosses the Darby creek, behind the Shop Rite. I found a rock that is in the shape of an anaconda. My wife and Ihave a zoo of paleo art in my house. If you ever want to find this stuff hit me up.
Great video!! Love history in the area of Delco and Chesco as well. Where can I park to hike this trail?
@@nealg6810 dont want to give the exact location but I'll just say it's in rose valley. Thanks for the kind words.
Thank you, sir. I will try my luck with The Old Google Machine.
Hey! This is cool. I know exactly where this is, as I’ve seen folks walking on it from the other side of the creek driving down knowlton road. Now I know where to access it. Have you ever been in the old mill at the bottom of east 25th street? It’s pretty cool. I rent a rehearsal space in it. Also you look very familiar.
I live right in your area, (Glen mills). I’ve been trying to figure out where this is for awhile now. The history in Delaware county is insane!!
@@Dirtbikeboy557 it's definitely hard to find!
Very interesting thank you!
So cool!
Thank you!! So much
Thank you for the great content ! Can't want to see more !!!!
During the better weather I jog and mountainbike all through here....
Grew up in Ridley.. Good Stuff
@@BCM16AR appreciate you, neighbor!
Really cool! Thanks
I literally drive through Rose Valley every day going to work. The houses in the beginning of the video are familiar. I’ll have to look for the path. Never knew you were allowed to walk along it. the Lenni Lenape Indian was the mascot of Ridley HS.
an organized walk would be great :)
I was born and raised in Wapwallopen Pa. Council Cup was a Native American sight used for scouting. I like looking for bent trees 😊
Thank you for sharing your information. I followed on Google maps where you are walking. Knowing the old mill location, I see on Google that the path you're walking isn't marked in green like others are in the area. I hope that gets added on Google.
The large chunks of slag might be waist from a crucible steel or just a steel foundery/factory. Many years ago, it was common for the factory to dump waist along the river. There might be a slag pile up river from your location. I have found the same chunks of slag in Union NJ. I have located the slag heap. I also have found the cast away crucible for making the steel.
@@patrickdennis7041 wow that's cool that you found the crucible. I think you are right. There must have been a foundry nearby.
I love exploring our state. You found a gem. Was this also called the Warrior Trail?
Thicker glass is usually older and many times you can see bubbling in the older glass
Most of my family is from Aston, PA and all over delco
@@serpentbearer6649 I have a patch from playing soccer against Aston as a kid
Watch out for the Green Ridge Gang!!! Hahahhah
I'm born and raised in Delco. Glad you appreciate the views, etc. How can I contact you via email or whatever? Id like to help you with art.
Farmers fields dug up in the spring have lots of arrowheads. An artifact hunter told me that’s where he finds them. When rows are created in big fields , the arrowheads have been brought to the surface. He told me the sandstone arrowheads are the oldest.
I've heard the same thing about farmers fields. Good tip!
I grew up by the green lane reservoir in Montgomery County. Many artifacts have been found when in times of drought. It's the perkiomen creek that eventually meets the skyuykill River. Sorry for butchered name. Keep on looking you will find things
Thanks for sharing, I'll have to look into that. I have a few spots I want to cover in Montco so maybe I'll check out that spot along the way.
Dig down, say 50 to 300 feet. Removing 'mudflood earth' will reveal who was here before....and whatever resets/cataclysms.
You're probably right.
Nice video, and I love your enthusiasm and curiosity. It would be a good idea to get a little better grasp of the history details so that you don't share incorrect facts, and consult some indigenous sources and people. There are good websites with plenty of historical information by both scholarly and indigenous sources and the Pennsylvania Historical Society's history text of Pennsylvania, as well as the Lenape tribal organizations in the area. There is a book on 'Indian trails and roads" in Pennsylvania and others that would be of interest to you.
Here's what I've put together for a class I've taught on indigenous and colonial geography, and I hope it is correct. I am not indigenous, but I do have an interest in indigenous culture and history, attend some powwows and have taken beginner courses in one indigenous language. I do not speak for or as an indigenous person, so I hope I speak truly and am forgiven what I say incorrectly.
The Susquehannocks were in their ascendancy during the first half of the 1600s, when they traded with all four European powers in the regions - French, English, Dutch, and English. Their last major town was on the west side of the Susquehanna River east of York. They even had a cannon there. They were likely from what is now New York state, being related to but driven out by the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) confederacy in the 1500s maybe. More recent than 'ancient.'
The Lenape (Lenni and Lenape are both names that mean 'the people' so it is redundant to use both of them together) lived throughout the Delaware River Valley up into New York state. Minqua was likely a derogatory name they gave to the Susquehannocks, their enemies, who, as you noted, defeated them around 1630 before smallpox wreaked havoc on both nations. The Lenape are an Algonquin people, while the Susquehannock were Iroquoian, two major cultural groups. The Lenape of the 1600s were just as sophisticated as the Susquehannocks, and had resided in the Delaware River Valley for centuries upon centuries. They were known as grandfathers among the nations in the region, and often served a diplomatic role. The Susquehannocks were more removed from the earliest colonial settlements, so they were more of an unknown factor, and didn't survive as a nation the way the Lenapes have.
After the Susquehannock's ascendancy was broken, they were attacked by their Iroquoian cousins and largely absorbed into the tribe. Later, there was set up what was basically a reservation or refugee camp called Conestoga Indian Town, where some remnants of the Susquehannock nation lived a pretty sad life - 'beggars and broommakers,' one older source says, until they were attacked and killed by the Paxton Boys in revenge for an attack on settlers that had nothing to do with them.
Thanks for your information. I grew up in Swarthmore, PA, so I am familiar in a novice way with Lenape landmarks in Delaware County. I now live in North Central Massachusetts not too far away from the Mohawk Trail near Leominster. This old Indian stuff is fascinating. It is appalling how our white ancestors treated these people, e.g., the Paxton story. I know that the native tribes were not always kind to their relatives, but that was their way and heritage, so it doesn't seem as bad as invaders wreaking having on their lives to me.
@@richarddapollo8790 absolutely agree with the last statement. Our romanticization of native people has not helped us understand their ways.
Wo! The algorithm gods threw me a gem! Great video! Hey, check out "Freedom," by Sebastian Junger. He discusses (among other things) native Americans in PA.
@@fleotusbing thanks for the kind words and reading recommendation!
im a native delco hunter of some cool places. great job. give me a shout if you want to link up.
@@shizok8064 thank you bro
Susquehanna were giants with European lineage. They were purposely annihilated to the last child. Very curious
You are in Muskrat territory. Closer to Media you can stand on a big hill and watch them swim at the creeks edge. And watch for creek snakes, they sun themselves between logs so look before you step over an obstacle.
Thanks for sharing
You're welcome!
The most interesting video I’ve seen on TH-cam and weeks. I believe that the revenge of the native peoples is that their spirits still walk among the land? We just can’t see them. I’m originally from Germantown and as a boy I spent a lot of time in Valley Green, which is a park. There are at least four Lene Lenape trails , on either side of the Wissahickon Creek. When I was 23 I spent time in Nebraska and when you walk through a field or through a wooded area or by a creek, you feel their presents. Whether it’s 200 years ago or if I’m 1000 years ago. Americans idea of history begins and ends whatever the current news is for a week two weeks and distracted by something else. I have a friend who is a monastery in upstateNew York. There’s a mountain across the road from their buildings where if you climb up it. You can still see the little walls of piled up stones sectioning off different parts of the field that once was farmland, but now the trees have overgrown it. Those sectioned plots of land and those walls have got to be at least 225 years old 30 years old something like that..
@@Ettoredipugnar that's fascinating! I was born in Germantown too before moving to Delco. I'll look into those Indian trails. You are so right about the landscape and how old it is.
@ you r considerably younger than I , are you Italian ? None of my business of course
@@Ettoredipugnar not a problem, I'm half Indian from India and half Irish from NE philly
@@solguud I asked because at one time there were many Italians in Germantown. My mother used to say that no matter where you go., you always meet somebody from Germantown.
It goes Darby creek , Stony creek , Ridley creek
LP is likely for the Long Point wildlife sanctuary trail that is marked with a hiking symbol on Google off of Long Point LN
@@marielvanhees9531 I knew someone would find it eventually. My secret place will not be secret for much longer... I almost regret posting this video! 😆 but great job
@@solguud sorry. 😅🥴 I'm from the area and always like finding trails.
@@marielvanhees9531 ah no worries I'm happy to share :)
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Is that Ridley creek,? I grew up in Sharon Hill. We explored the Darby Creek and the Hermesprotos creek. Never found an arrow head either!
@@leecaptis5865 sure is ridley creek. Isn't it strange we never find anything? I've always wondered why
Is that Drexel Hill ? I grew up near by . Glenolden, Norwood, Holmes , Falcroft
It's in Rose Valley, just at the border with Middletown.
Check out "Indian Paths of Pennsylvania " by Paul Wallace
i know bunch cool places in pa if u go to lancaster theres a church in town with a cort yard with grave sites in middle of town and one of stones says fought next to george washing ton .............. i saw it my own eyes but that was 20 years ago im 43 now
Spent a lot of time in Rose Valley visiting relatives (now deceased) and they never mentioned this.
On the trail you passed a concrete post, what was it for any idea?
@@butchlauer not sure which one you mean but there's a post with some trail markers. That post is new and the trail markers are new.
@solguud at 4min25sec I see it is a trail marking post. Neat to see that type of post, I'm sure it has some age to it.
@butchlauer ah yknow you might be right! Very cool thanks for noticing that. Honestly I don't remember it being there but maybe I've just forgotten it. Is it a particular kind of post from a specific time period?
Can you share where the trailhead is located ?
@@brynmawrbuilders5419 I'll just say it's in rose valley. Don't want to give the exact spot but if you are really stumped you can ask the rose valley museum, they'll probably tell ya. Good luck!
Whatever ancient paths or dwellings areas you’re walking, they are buried underneath you by several feet as is always the case with ancient history and ground level.
And where there’s quartz , there may be gold to pan.
That's an excellent point. It would be great if the precolonial layers are in tact down there in the soil.
I've thought about panning there. There are garnets here in Delco too.
Great history. Where is the location of the plaque you began at? (Google maps shows a spot near West Chester University.) What would be the best stretch for a ~10 mile walk without too many busy roads?
@@mtheaney check out rose valley!
Good video, I gotta go
Thanks. It's an amazing place if you can find it
What is the fencing? Do people jave gardens there?