It seems like that last game protoss knew a lot more than he should have. At one point you did a ling drop and somehow dude sent his carriers right at you despite the overlords being out of sight.
@@JudoStev I get that possibility, but the area was strange. Is it normal to have observers in bizarre parts of the map where its least likely to see anything? I don't play protoss, but unless Observers are zero supply, I don't know how you could have every inch of the map covered at all times.
Can someone explain to me why we rarely see adrenal (cracklings) in a challenge when lings are your dps? Pretty sure the added dps makes up for the 4 drones for the extra gas for the hive and upgrade? Or a couple investors less to walk to their deaths? 😅
seems like your queens end up in downtown because you shift inject and then click on the minimap presumably to send them to the front of your base once they're finished injecting. but you're not paying attention to where on the minimap you're clicking
Deploy on other players' territory (check) Claim that you are just defending or protecting worker rights (check) Use other players' units to fight each other (check) Lend weapons to other player as a support in that fight (X) One more step and you will become a typical US strategist.
@nonzerosum-my3hx planetary, marine-bunkers and turrets only, that's more accurate to what I mean. If opposition flies away then you're allowed to chase with actual units.
That first game was deff a warmup game :D dude scared for his life, like you always say, take 4 bases drone like mad and spend la money haha, the push was at 10 min. Still GG dude you are the best.
I think a funny challenge to GM would be turtle to GM (with Terran) where you're only allowed to take half the map, never attack and wait for your opponent to get frustrated and leave or draw the game. My hope is it would lead to some cool late games you don't get to see often but maybe its a terrible idea.
i feel you neuralled the entire army and thenn didnt get them to kill each other. i think just neural archons and send lings on the immortals, let the archons kill each other straight away (as soon as the neural lands) then its an easy cleanup
6:53 what are you researching there Marc out of that structure you can't build units from 😂 (Nobody should be complaining about playing Marc when he does stuff like that plus plays on 200 ping on top of the weird strats)
I've never seen a Protoss cheeser owned so hard. 4.4K MMR and he looked like a Platinum. Anyway, why always the guys who cheese the hardest never say GG when they lose? (except the cheese minister himself, of course)
Stupid challenge idea, because you can't do anything. You can only try some cheese with 1st tier unit of any of the factions After 5 minutes it can't be used
Zerg might be your weaker race since you know less about it; but it damn sure makes for great games to watch. You don't play like most zergs which is refreshing.
11:20 "i don't think i could have done this much better tho" with a roach warren on screen having researched roach speed.
7:20 is when the queens got sent to the top right corner. You had 3 queens inject, then right clicked on the minimap.
your spines and queens aren't attacking, they're just standing their ground.
CAN ONLY USE LING INFESTOR! cant attack with those
The last part he moved the queen off-creep, but they were within 5 seconds to creep so it’s okay.
10:35 Where the Hell are my Queens? Straight in the middle of the map. =D
Conscientious objector.
someone call 911, uthermal just murdered that last toss lol
5:20 That is right, Spore Colony's vision range is significantly longer than its attack range, and its comes with cloak detection.
10:10: Wow. Neural'd 2/3 of the army and it still wasn't enough. Damn =o
28:33 who wants to remind Marc he limited himself to 6 queens in his rules. Edit: My bad its not a rule anymore also the last game was awesome!
We changed that ages ago, guess the challenge card is still wrong :P
@@uThermal My bad only said it cause it showed it at the start of the episode, carry on.
Let's go! I was wondering what's been missing from Marc's games. It's Zerginess!
"...we lost from zealot, immortal, archon. I think we can beat that if we have a lot of lings and there are no archon." okay.
It seems like that last game protoss knew a lot more than he should have. At one point you did a ling drop and somehow dude sent his carriers right at you despite the overlords being out of sight.
Observers.
There's a protoss unit that can be built in the robotics facility, it's called an Observer.
oh, somebody was faster 😂
@@JudoStev I get that possibility, but the area was strange. Is it normal to have observers in bizarre parts of the map where its least likely to see anything? I don't play protoss, but unless Observers are zero supply, I don't know how you could have every inch of the map covered at all times.
I think he spot them when they fleu over 4 base
If you charm, neuro, the carriers, does the cost of interceptors go under your economy or remain under the enemies?
Hmmmm, really good question!
i feel like early speedlords really play to your strengths as a player because you are so good at scouting and mindgames and reacting
That last game was so juicy. I can't imagine what that protoss was feeling. after putting out all those ling fires , to lose like that
Can someone explain to me why we rarely see adrenal (cracklings) in a challenge when lings are your dps? Pretty sure the added dps makes up for the 4 drones for the extra gas for the hive and upgrade? Or a couple investors less to walk to their deaths? 😅
Just beautiful micro.
Neural is so effective in the right hands...
Second guy was salty. No GG after he tried to cheese and failed completely. What a baby
You broke the Protoss player on the last game. They didn't know what else to do and kept building archon + carrier lol.
The skytoss dissapearing makes my little zerg heart happy.
Game 3: love watching you cook, and clutching it out against the odds!
Game 3 was great, my
Infestors always die and don't do anything. Getting that done must of been so hard. Good micro!
I play a very similar zerg style, but I find that my queens are more often found uptown rather than downtown.
That was some nice run bies and matches.
Thanks for the fun! ^^
damn it Thermy, now i've to play some SC2
seems like your queens end up in downtown because you shift inject and then click on the minimap presumably to send them to the front of your base once they're finished injecting. but you're not paying attention to where on the minimap you're clicking
If you’re getting rocked by run bys and drops, why is weird to build a single cannon and battery in your min line? 3 probes = 1 cannon. Worth it?
Deploy on other players' territory (check)
Claim that you are just defending or protecting worker rights (check)
Use other players' units to fight each other (check)
Lend weapons to other player as a support in that fight (X)
One more step and you will become a typical US strategist.
i'm kinda surprised there are no accidental ultras on the map. seems like they'd fix most weaknesses of this style.
The Queen's we to shop, there were rumors saying they had a Mega-Thrift in old town... Lmfao
Is it possible to win with only static defense?
ask a protoss
@nonzerosum-my3hx planetary, marine-bunkers and turrets only, that's more accurate to what I mean. If opposition flies away then you're allowed to chase with actual units.
@nonzerosum-my3hx there's a mod called infinite upgrades. You can do cross map range with infinite upgrades on turrets and planetary.
Wait wasnt the rule max 6 queens? 26:55 looks like a bit more
I've always maintained Adrenal Glands is the best upgrade in the game, maybe only tied with Stim
love your vids, so happy and positive
28:46 So the limitation of queens is out of the window?
Oh, the challenge card is outdated.
I was wondering the same thing, my math isn't great, but i was pretty sure that he did more than 6 in the last game.
That first game was deff a warmup game :D dude scared for his life, like you always say, take 4 bases drone like mad and spend la money haha, the push was at 10 min. Still GG dude you are the best.
When you neural Carriers, make sur to disable the auto build of interceptors lol
You know the dude in the last game was livid.
I think in first game, I think the mistake was taking every single unit, could've grabbed only archon fought them, then did a 2nd round
uthermal is the only person i'll watch play a race other than terran
Blizz gonna nerf energy capacity for the Infestors eventually. 😂
UTHERMAL confrims zerg is OP confirmed
You missed the perfect chance in the last game to neural a probe and build a nexus!
I think a funny challenge to GM would be turtle to GM (with Terran) where you're only allowed to take half the map, never attack and wait for your opponent to get frustrated and leave or draw the game. My hope is it would lead to some cool late games you don't get to see often but maybe its a terrible idea.
every video would be over 3 hours long lol
@@JasonMendoza-hd3ce perfect
8:59 😂
Wonder if you could have merged his Templar into Archons :P
Protoss players never change, from bronze to GM they all cannon/DT rush or max on carriers only.
i feel you neuralled the entire army and thenn didnt get them to kill each other. i think just neural archons and send lings on the immortals, let the archons kill each other straight away (as soon as the neural lands) then its an easy cleanup
What about 6 Queens limit?
Your creep macro has improved. On a scale of 1 to 10 it used to be zero.
Technically the queens weren't on defense in the end there. I'm afraid I'll have to disqualify this match!
6:53 what are you researching there Marc out of that structure you can't build units from 😂
(Nobody should be complaining about playing Marc when he does stuff like that plus plays on 200 ping on top of the weird strats)
what are the rules?
LOL way over limit on queens in that last game. But still a great game.
I thought the rules were 6 queens max? Still enjoyable AF, though.
CentralLimit with a very unfortunately bad cheese. Marc out-microed him, harddd
Best challenge of SC2 ❤
finally you found "Die Antwoord"
Proud wie Schmidt's Katze!!!
that was insane
Limit: 6 queens... fast forward to 28:50
That last game... #standingovation
LMAO rin got RINSED!! XD
I turned on notifications for thermy.
I've never seen a Protoss cheeser owned so hard. 4.4K MMR and he looked like a Platinum.
Anyway, why always the guys who cheese the hardest never say GG when they lose? (except the cheese minister himself, of course)
First game your economy was rly bad and needed more spines
Impressive.
Answer to Carriers, that's not a bunch of wraiths? Interesting!
Just build Goliaths
yoooooooo mineral only challenge?
Stupid challenge idea, because you can't do anything.
You can only try some cheese with 1st tier unit of any of the factions
After 5 minutes it can't be used
@@ElGoogKO thanks for your opinion and suggestion have a great day
ggs
I bet game 1 looks different if youre a bit greedier. This guy was crazy passive
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Zerg might be your weaker race since you know less about it; but it damn sure makes for great games to watch.
You don't play like most zergs which is refreshing.
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I am not convinced that your neural micro is the most efficient. You might talk about that a bit.
There'll be yet another whining protoss in r/starcraft tonight 😄
Infestor control is bad, please use a separate hotkey for Infestors and hotkey the eggs for all army units use the add to hotkey function for that.
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I have played that dude… despise his style
Thank you for ling infestoring him
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