DoDonPachi II: Bee Storm - Baby's First "CAVE" Shmup - IGS PGM Palooza!
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Ok so DoDonPachi II was not made BY CAVE...hence the quotation marks...but it is a sequel to the original DoDonPachi shmup...so it still has a fun retrogaming lineage! And it's a much easier shmup than most of CAVE's output so it's a great place to get started in this retro gaming genre!
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Up next : DoDonPachi II: Bee Storm. Technically it's not a CAVE game but a licensed sequel BASED on a CAVE shmup. Whatever it is...if you have never played a CAVE shmup and you are intimidated by the entire genre this is a great place to start. It's difficult without being an insanely hard shmup!
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So glad to see you review this game. Played it a couple days ago for the 1st time and couldnt find a decent review beforehand
Happy to do it! It deserves a bit more press!
I still need to spend some time with this game, but its still crazy seeing all the reused assets from DDP. Thanks for the video!
happy to make it...and yes this is like a remix game thats just easier!
@@VideoGameEsoterica I just got pgm games working on neo final burn, but I do hope we see a MISTER port soon. Need to mess around with those Knights of Valor games...
KOV and it’s many revisions, both official and hacks. It’s kind of hard to even tell where the official releases end and the rom hacks begin
Danmaku/bullet hell games are the best for getting me into “the zone” makes me feel like Neo when I get some good dodging in
Exactly. You only really get that feeling from a good shmup
There's my life before I discovered Cave and then my life after Cave.
I'll never be the same.
Haha yeah you really can’t go back
I find it more of an odd curiosity than a serious entry in Dodonpachi. it went unemulated for years then just, was over night. It looks really nice and has more of a Toaplan feel to it. I also think it was the first shmup to have some kind of network connectivity.
While I think Ketsui is the goat, my favorite starter shmup for people is Mushihimesama. More than any other cave Shmup getting into the zone in that one unleashes all the brain chemicals.
Its an oddity for sure but it's still a fun time and considering the learning curve in the genre this is a great place to start for a lot of people
@@VideoGameEsoterica I'll have to give it a serious play later. I'm on one of my Shmup kicks that hit me every few weeks where I play a bunch of them. I have a controller I bought just to play them on.
Took me a good 20 years to actually get good at shmups. It was a Cave game that hooked me in, Guwange. Then of course, Ikaruga
haha its never too late to get into the genre. I mean I am not even great at any of them but that doesn't stop me from loving them. Which I always advocate for...you dont have to be good to have fun!
@@VideoGameEsoterica I think the best one for learning the Genre is Mushihimesama. Plus the music in that game is so much fun and if you hate bugs as much as I do, it's perfect.
the bugs are fun for sure. I regret selling my 360 copy years ago. Dumb move
Yeah, I like the lens you see this game through. Definitely "CAVE lite," but still fun and a nice entry point for beginners. Also, I'm pretty sure that "1CC" historically is "1 Credit Clear" or "1 Credit Completion" :)
I’ll never get 1CC right because I misremember it too many times. Branded into my brain!
Pro tip: watch your ship, not the enemies ;-)
Lol the issue is the sprites are so fun...they make you want to look!
It's such a shame you have to watch the clusterfuck of bullets headed your way, instead of the gorgeous animation and spritework.
This is my struggle with all bullet hell games. I want to pixel peep
@@VideoGameEsoterica You can briefly look at it before the screen's filled with bullets lol
When a game's only meaningful critiques are "it's not quiiite as good as the absolute elite of the extreme very best", and references to which staff were in the office at the time... then you know you've got a pretty damn awesome game.
As a self confessed, long term shmup casual, but who nonetheless does love the genre (among many others), this is easily my favourite game in the series.
Haha right? It’s just slightly less good than a hall of fame, first ballot game. You know it’s good!
This one I could maybe actually play, considering I'm terrible at that genre of games
It’s a good place to start for real. Give it a try
I have a PGM only have a few carts, I've been wanting to get this guy for awhile but the cheapest I've seen it is $650. Some of the title you featured previously in this series I've never even seen before of heard of.
yeah its certainly not a CHEAP game sadly!
Lol yeah, you were looking at your phone ;) suuuure
Haha I really was
Thanks for this. I heard it was infamous because it isnt a CAVE game, but people dont talk much in details about it. I think jarring/infamous/polarizing games are as important to talk about as good games.
yes its frowned upon but its not without merit
i was under the assumption that cave were consultants on this title & the igs devs handled the port in-house
yes its not developed by CAVE
Great Video i love my Copy of this Game was looking for it long time and found it really cheap.
Nice that you found it cheap
I really love the original DoDonpachi on my MiSTer and found it not that actually hard, but I'll try this one especially if it's easier !
This past weekend I tried Mars Matrix and... OH BOY 😂 I think that one, while a lovely game with nice art direction and good gameplay ideas/innovation is definitely too hard for my tastes, and kinda felt it did bullet hell a disservice ultimately by throwing SO MUCH bullets
Mars Matrix is a fun time but yeah it can be a bit cheap. It does LOOK amazing though. I've always loved that visual art style
Not to tell anyone how to play MM but after banging my head against that one forever I started watching some super plays and felt like I'd been playing it all wrong. All the same bullet herding is there with split second mosquito barriers to pass through bullet walls. And of course, the DC version is still the best with some unlockables that make the game playable at a human level.
oh its always ok to tell someone how to play a game so long as its not just a "git gud" lol
The black sheep of the franchise.
it really is but its still fun and it's a great place to start for newcomers to the genre
@@VideoGameEsoterica I’m not sure if this game is considered canon to the franchise.
I dont think it is. It barely even has a story
@@VideoGameEsoterica I don’t think SaiDaiOuJou even acknowledges it either.
No I think it’s basically always ignored
Think this will ever come to Mister?
Yes. PGM has been stated by Jotego to be a platform to bring to MiSTer. No time soon but eventually
@@VideoGameEsoterica nifty!
Yeah it should be a fun time
Graphically looks like a downgrade over DDP1. Is that right?
I think its more down to style than "downgrade" myself
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My issue with the bullet-hell genre is that it gives up the atmosphere of horizontal shooters for a screen full of bullets. Its like a pizza with too many toppings, and you lose the flavor of anything, with everything. With the current state of gaming, I'm starting to better appreciate these more. But give me if someone can give me a new Einhander or Devil Engine, Id be your best friend.
They are an acquired taste for sure. I just love the challenge and learning / practicing aspect of them
@@VideoGameEsoterica Im slowly getting it. Actually, you inspired me to get an IGS PGM, so I'll for sure try to find the magic in this game and the other shooters you've had on your channel...once this package arrives from overseas.
nice. Glad to hear you picked one up!
I like bullet hells because they constantly kick my ass and demand improvement. I'd love to see something like iS Internal Section, Einhander or R-Type Delta again.
Yes they demand practice and improvement. I enjoy that as well
i have a few pgm boards but this cart is quite rare & ive never found one 🥺
im a mere mortal lol i cant afford $1k+ pcb
You can get new pcb conversion carts. Repros that don’t sacrifice existing games
you could also emulate it if you're okay with a few more frames of lag
100%
the conversion carts are my go to but i never found bee storm, just ketsui, espgaluda, and dodonpachi dai ou jou
Yeah most people have the carts it seems. Because $$$$