You're Dialling In Clean Tones Wrong
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- Even our "heavier" plugins are great for clean tones. However, reducing the gain on the amplifier often leads to a fluttery-sounding distortion that doesn't achieve the desired tone. Instead, try reducing the input gain on the plugin and then compensating for the level dip by using the Master volume or the output level on the plugin.
Like with tube amplifiers, as you saturate the power amplifier with master volume, the EQ pots have less of an impact on the overall tone.
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That feel when I'm just now realizing that I've never tried to record a clean tone in my life after 12 years of playing guitar
Great point on lowering the Input. It would be a nice feature addition to have a link button that increases Output to match the Input changes so the overall level out is the same. Many other plugins have this.
This is great, some of us never had a real amp with more than 4-5 knobs so we don't know how to use all this options very well, thank you!
Took me way too long to realize this! This helped me get good clean boosted sound with Plini for funk rhythm and indie rock tones. I’d def love to see more videos like this. Thanks Steven!
For all of you who don't like Abasi while still owning it, try dialing back the input a veery tiny bit. I did that once to try scoop of some of the aggressivnes and lows and it worked. For me at least...
Im super new to guitar playing and recording, and having a couple Neural DSP plug in's, this was very eye opening
Dayum. I always thought input knob should be thought in a similar way than input gain in audio interface.
Hm.. this might be helpful for all my tones.
duuuuuuuude great tip!!! Just opened the door for so many more tonal options that I never thought of!!
i really needed this lol
Thanks for the tip. Just purchased the Omega and godt really frustrated that I couldn't get a proper clean sound.
Really happy with this sim. Soooo brutal, glassy and full sounding. Beats any other sim Ive tried.
Very nice content !! It's a little bit like the volume control on the guitar. I spent years leaving it always at the 10 position until I discovered one day, that one of the best clean I could get out of my amp was actually by rolling off a bit my guitar volume.
In an ideal world for the Neural DSP plugins, I would have preferred that a kind of algorithm manages this adjustment for me 😄. Today we have the volume of our guitar, the input level of our audio interface, the input level of the plugin and the Gain 🤪 🤯 !! It's a lot !! Finding the sweet spot can be time consuming and we could be lost tweaking. I would love that if I bring the gain down on the amp in the Plugin, an algorithm or something would automatically compensate the input level to keep me in the sweet spot. I know the sweet spot is different depending on the people but still Less is more ☺️ isn't this, after all, the philosophy of Neural DSP regarding guitar plugins ? 😜
Great tips, I didn't realize that.
thx man !! i just tried it on Omega. game changer for sure ,just a slight drop in the input helps so much !
O yeah! More, more, more of this level of detail and insight; was very useful and interesting. Thanks!
Great video! I've been getting it wrong all along
This is the most helpful video of the week. Thanks
What is the part you start playing around 2:05? It's lovely and I'd love to learn how to play it.
That helps! I totally didn't think of that. 👍🏻
Really great tips, thanks! On the plugin wishlist: an emulation of a b-bender / g-bender - maybe in a Brad Paisley archetype, with some great DR Z tones? (throwing money at screen..)
Short. Sweet. Useful. Thank you
Awesome, helpful video Steven. Thank you
Thank you very much 😊 these tips help me a lot!
I discovered this the hard way after hours and hours trying to get a specific tone with many different plugins and pre and post effects 🤦🏻♂️
This is great to know! Thanks Steven :)
Wow that’s awesome I didn’t think that was possible. Thanks
Thanks for your great tips Steven
Man, I should've known this! Thanks man...
Great advice! Thank you!
these videos are great! thanks. Fantasic plugins.
omg Thanks.....................Im old school I only look at amp controls
Very helpful, thanks!
Very useful! thanks mate
Cool, I’ve never really played with the input knob.
Now I know
It's essential, we're glad it helped!
@@NeuralDSP what if the clipping indicator appears? Can I ignored it if I like the sound or clipping always must be avoided? (thanks a lot for these cool videos)
Fantastic video! Rock on!
Excellent. Thank you.
Could you do the same thing by lowering the volume on the guitar?
Yes.
@@themightymcb7310 well, actually, not in most cases. i guess that with active pickups it doesnt really matter, but with passives you usually lose some high end when rolling down volume (unless you have some treble bleed caps installed)
@@bazdesh could probably get the same effect by turning down the level on any pedal with a level knob
When to use "LEVEL KNOB"? please reply thank you!
Which is the most versatile standalone plugin? Save me time. I love ❤️ most styles & play in coverband.
Please do one for high gain distortion!!
You're Dialling In Clean Tones WONG
I'd like to see a QC on my floor at the house. When is that happening?
@this is our house not too long about 3 months. I hope it's worth the wait? My fm3 took over a year so....lol
how about turning down. the volume knob on the guitar
Works too, but gonna give relatively more hum and also you're not going to be able to perfectly recall the setting in future if required.
It takes away all my treble and sounds very bass-y
@@AtomMotherHeart do a treble bleed on the volume pot. .02 cap with 220 resistor.
@@CharlieLord if it hums your wiring is messed up some where. I've never had that issue.
Also harder to save as a preset :)
Very useful!
That's great for a single channel amp, but what about the Fortin Cali, to name just one? You turn down the input volume for the clean channel, but then what when you're changing to rhythm or lead channel? The master input doesnt change when changing channels. How do you keep the power up with a low input volume?
I had no idea that maxing the master volume kept other tone knobs from fully functioning. is this a universal concept with amps?
or you buy Archetype: Cory Wong
is this an exclusive feature to neural dsp with them recreating the real life amp experience or is this how all amp sims operate?
Thanks, highly useful! Just wondering though, what's the analogue equivalent to this?
Rolling down the volume on your guitar, partially engaging a volume pedal, or dropping the volume on an EQ or compressor or whatever that goes into the front of the amp.
@@themightymcb7310 Thanks! Very counter-intuitive as I always assumed maximising the signal going in would be preferable. These guys twiddling their guitar knobs on stage like Jeff Beck make a bit more sense now.
@@robertjones9598 Yeah, it's actually possible to clean up a proper distorted tone with just the volume knob assuming you have a high quality pot installed and you aren't running some kind of boost. Van Halen did it a lot. That's how he got that low gain tone from Hot For Teacher, for example.
Is there a video how to avoid popping when you hit notes on clean tones with effects, compression, and boost? I’m currently using Tim Henson along with Plini’s effect pedals
If what you call popping is a clipping issue you need to dial back the gain on your audio interface. If you are talking about notes jumping high and becoming dirty when playing a clean tone you need to add a compressor or limiter before the amp to avoid cleans becoming gritty. Hope it helped!
A suggestion:
Show us how to dial in a good Fishman Fluence Modern pickups tone?
Thanks a lot!
Using NDSP Nolly make a vid on dialing in a 6 string drop D - C Metal rythym tone for tracking... Knowing ahead u will likely use dubs or quads ..I got a pretty good handle on it but I'd love to see your way.. i use an Arrow, logic pro. And an LTD EC1001tctm..also what is ur opinion on coil tap pickups like the 1001 has? When and where to use them..I know it's all preference but still wonder how badly I am wasting writing time ,on tweaking Sims ,irs and coil position.. take care
Wouldn’t switching to 6l6 give more clean headroom also ?
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is neural considering a full license subscription? like stltones, alliance plugin or digital slate ??
I hope not. These plugins aren’t cheap but once I buy them I like knowing I won’t have to keep shelling out a monthly fee. For Adobe stuff or Slate it makes sense but Neural stuff isn’t that expensive, relatively speaking. Plus theres always the 2 week trials!
Devin Grubbs
sorry I find that these plugins are very good, moreover their cpu load is low compared to others, and given the number of amps I would not be against a monthly subscription and take advantage of new products when they come out .. I preferred can be given 10 € per month rather than 150 for each amp ..
@@devingrubbs Hey I got some plugins left to sell for 25$ if you want one :)
nice one! but really can't find much of a difference in tones at 3:00 for maxed out master vs. non maxed out... actually feels like is the contrary.
Ahh!!
Can someone explain to me what the difference is between an input signal clipping and distortion?
Clipping turns a sine wave into a square wave by chopping off the peaks and valleys.
Gain distortion has a softer knee at the tops and valleys and adds saturation (i.e. odd or even order harmonics).
Nice viddy
You're Dialling In Clean Tones Wong
Yet, it still distorting with your changes..
fuckin YASSSSSS
I feel dumb now, lmao
Don't mind me, I just wanted the 100th comment
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Also: how to dial clean tone in wrong. or, how to raise noise floor and reduce dynamic range. This sounds like wet cardboard. Just use an amp or plugin that sounds good clean. There's no audio at the end of the video.
What clean amps do you recommend, imo their Fortin Cali sim does a nice job, but any thing else for like a clean - just a little crunchy?
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Thanks for the tips!!!