The sad thing is the lesser known Chinese and Korean brands are doing better in terms of giving you more bang for your buck as well as having tighter tolerances and feel with buttons. $160 USD is pretty appalling considering their support isn't even top notch any more as they take a while to get back to you and it's hit or miss on how many hoops you have to jump through to get a replacement (not as bad as Razer but close).
I was super disappointed with super light 2: Worse glide, stiffer button and to little resistance in mouse wheel, make it a noticeable down grade! The new sensor u will not notice at all
I cant think of one mouse that has actually good glides as their standard. And I just hope that, the superlight 2 doesnt have the bug where the mousewheel becomes practically unusable.
Logitech should've updated the G305 as there are plenty of changes that need to be made there and it's considered entry level which in this economy more people need than top end mice.
@@vinicius401 I gave the mouse a chance in the 20 days that I've owned it and while it felt okay, it definitely did not feel like a 70 dollar mouse and the clicks felt tactile but hollow (i prefer Huano Blue shell pink dots now) like all optical switches and the skates were far from smooth compared to the stock feet that came with my Viper V2, Orochi v2 and G305 with Hyperglides.
Shows how out of touch mouse companies are nowadays. People who buy top tier mice for gaming don't care much about battery life. I think this would be a top mouse if it had a smaller battery and a bit more weight removed. Also be nice to have better switches and feet though. 👍
That's true for some people but for others, they will welcome this minor change. It should have been listed as a GPX lightforce to emphasize the different switches
Disagree. 60 grams is light enough. I very much value battery life. I have a gpx superlight, lamzu atlantis og v2 pro 4k, razer deathadder v3 and the mouse i keep going back to is the auperlight. I'm going to do a video on it soon.
Hey, loved the video. Can you help me please with some info? I got a Superlight 1 and wishing to get the 2nd, and I am fully ready to do that. I have a ton of mouse feet, skates for the Superlight 1 that I haven't tested and plan to use in the future. My question is, are those skates compatible with the Logitech Superlight 2? As I see the newer one has a straight angle on the lower/puck size while the original version is rounded. Are there any difference in the skate size that will make them incompatible? Cause to get complete new skates and toss the old ones in the garbage for just a design and different sake seems very scummy. If I am exaggerating and the original skates are completely compatible with the newer version then that's super good. Thank you!
From a design perspective, they could probably curved the sides a little more and remove the dongle storage. Removing the dongle storage could save roughly 3-5 grams. On top of that, they could save money from the magnets and extra pucks. I hardly know anyone who plays with powerplay mat anymore, and they changed the charging method to USB-C which allows for fast charging. Why do they continue designing their equipment within that ecosystem is beyond me. Nothing about the GPX2 warrants an upgrade from those who have the GPX, not even after indepth polling/click and motion latency test. LOD adjustments are so common nowadays that it's not worth talking about. Click method type options are gimmicks. Logitech really treating their users like morons.
Its because Logitech’s lead designers are all old dinosaurs, they think they are hot shit because they have so much experience as the #1 peripheral manufacturer, that they are designing their products in an ecochamber, they don’t even know what other mouse makers are doing. Logitech’s design principles have always revolved around long battery life and a false build quality. You can see this way back in mice Logitech produced like 20 years ago. They used to put brass weights inside of their mice to make them feel heavy. This is because old people from that generation got burned by a lot of lightweight cheap chinese made products that broke. Eventually Logitech realized that using metal to add weight was pointless when they could just over engineer the inner skeleton of the mouse to add weight through excess plastic. Its honestly a miracle that anyone on their dev team lowered the weight on the first GPX but realistically, these mice were recycling old gpro molds by getting rid of the rightside sidebuttons. Logitech helped develop the sensor with pixart, but after their collab Logitech started producing their sensors inhouse and stopped working with pixart, and their sensor improvements have been only focused on maintaining a long battery life. They have not put in any improvements to the accuracy of the sensor. Them going to 2khz is not a shock to me since they care so much about battery life. I do agree with that decision though. I’d rather see more mice with 2khz polling especially for wireless mice because too many dumb customers blame the mouse for their games/computer not being able to run smoothly when using 4khz or 8khz polling. I’d rather people just have a smooth experience with 2khz instead eventhough I do like my 4khz and 8khz mice. I don’t expect Logitech to remain the top dog now that sensor tech is capping out. Even by Razer’s own admission their newest sensor is like 99.8% accurate, they’ve got like one more pixart sensor to go until there is basically nothing else they can improve on other than battery life, and the performance difference between the last 3 or 4 pixart sensors really aren’t that much of an improvement, the main difference has been seen in Razer mice in particular who have been dramatically lowered click and motion latency with better microchips and pcb/firmware design. The future for mice will be all about shape, customization, and weight. All things that Logitech has a hard time adapting to since they are dinosaurs. Also, their keyboards are getting left in the dust as well ever since Wooting came onto the scene. Realistically Logitech probably won’t die but they will probably stop focusing on their gaming peripherals and just sell office gear since that is where most of their money comes from. However this refocus will end up killing the company since most office workers play games and a lot of them work from home now, so all of those customers will want gear that is good for both working and gaming. Razer will probably be fine because they actually listen to the community every now and then, plus they have always been heavily focused on gaming. Zowie might survive if they ever pull their heads out of their asses, simply because their huge array of shapes and sizes are why they have so many fans. Their business isn’t built on tech. However Logitech will be leaving space for a new peripheral king. I wonder who it will be, there are a lot of promising candidates positioned well to take over.
That '3M' grips look like the cheap counterfeit. Also also, the new puck looks like they saved 0.01$ on its cost of production. And replacing the lower -pads- skates was pure genius! You go Logitech!
The grips are pretty disappointing, i applied them and am tempted to remove them only 2 days later. Lost a considerable amount of its grip in that time. That’s fine though, I was planning on purchasing aftermarket ones anyway.
Hello, can I find out if the problem with the wheel has been solved on this version??? Or is the wheel still not reliable??? I want to buy this mouse, but everyone keeps talking about double clicks and a very bad wheel that goes out of work very quickly
Looking forward to this video to compare superlight 2 vs ULX.. if you could include Pwnage Stormbreaker in that testing as well that would be amazing, the storm breaker has the lowest latency wired or wirelss via rtings at 2.0 ms.. superlight 2 was at 2.1 wired and 2.5 wireless i believe@@Beardedbob
Would the superlight 1 base be compatible to the superlight 2? Asking because there were mods for the first one and I was wondering if I could just get a weight reduction base that fitted on the first one and just added it to the 2nd one.
Imo no if you are happy with the mouse you have. If you need to change it then 2k won’t hurt you but expect a drop in fps as it requires more cpu to compute
should i buy superlight pro ? since superlight 2 is super expensive and superlight 1 is also expensive but affordable for me but the double click problem for logitech is a nightmare for me since i am using ghero 502 but the doubleclick is broken for mine ...
Just get a hot swap pcb with whatever button switch you want for your superlight...and the double click problem would be a non-issue. Or claim the warranty of your superlight within 2 years, which will almost always create the double-clicking issue within that time period. At least based on my own experience with 5 different logitech gaming mice, all double-clicking eventually.
2, it has all the features of 1 and a bit more. 2 is only questionable as an upgrade. on a side note, I have 1 and will move it to my work and buy 2 to replace it at home for gaming.
@@johannesgreen6142 I'd say its personal preference, the small amount extra of battery life, ect, just doesn't seem worth it? in my country v1 vs v2 is double the price, $150 for vs $300 for v2, quite insane, plus v1 has more customisation out atm, more stakes, grips, ect
What I find utterly disgusting from Logitech is that they removed the smooth glossy finish on the bottom sides of the mouse. This finish was there to prevent friction when lifting off the mouse and moving it elsewhere on the mousepad. They removed it and replaced it with the same finish the bottom of the mouse has. The only reason they removed it is to save money from the process of making it smooth. Unacceptable for a 175 euro mouse. I will look into getting a refund.
@@hdkokohd3012 I've heard from most reviewers it's actually worse due to the clicks being much heavier on the gpx2 and the new skate size feels much worse
You gotta turn on a setting in Valorant. I don’t really play Val but it’s something like raw mouse input (beta). You gotta do this in overwatch 2 as well
The Superlight 2 wasn't just for owners of the first one to upgrade.. You understand that right? I just got it to replace my g502 plus x which i dont really like.. USB-C is great, 2000hz is so smooth the shape is good the mouse wheel is much better than the g502 plus x and its so light. Love it
it seems most people preffer the old swiches in the first version. 2000hz is great and all, but it seems the new hero 2 sensor has SRAV issues, that means it's not moving the same distance at different speeds. If i where to get a superlight id go for the 1st version.
@@Beardedbob yeah I would rather use Energy Fort a Logitech and Razer Dock for charging so its not even a big deal but still for a price like that if it's not usb C wtf they were thinking right? yeah im talking about superlight 1.
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So who won
The sad thing is the lesser known Chinese and Korean brands are doing better in terms of giving you more bang for your buck as well as having tighter tolerances and feel with buttons. $160 USD is pretty appalling considering their support isn't even top notch any more as they take a while to get back to you and it's hit or miss on how many hoops you have to jump through to get a replacement (not as bad as Razer but close).
Icl I trust America over Chinese products any day
What companies are you referencing? I don’t get the dislike of this mouse but I also sont fully understand the alternatives. Show me the light
@@ktg_2castle960pulsar, ajazz, darmoshark, zaopin, vgn etc
@@kai0kenyt568Where do you think Switzerland is in America
and where do you think Logitech stuff is produced
@@ktg_2castle960 I think they're referring to Lamzu (based in China) and Pulsar (based in Korea) if I'm not mistaken
This update was a regulatory requirement to be compliant with the USB-C mandate in EU for 2024 sales.
Crazy
Just what I wanted, same size with updated sensor and switches. 👌The skates look odd, but I don't have a large stock of org superlight skates anyway.
I was super disappointed with super light 2: Worse glide, stiffer button and to little resistance in mouse wheel, make it a noticeable down grade! The new sensor u will not notice at all
If you don’t want opto mech switches and 2k polling then save some money and get an SL1
@@Beardedbob But SL 1 and SL 2 are same price? Actually SL 2 is 0.99 cents cheaper right now!
Where is that? I need a link! @@shynnsup8383
I think the SL2 has more input lag than 1. The movement speed on SL1 is perfect, the SL2 o feel a little more latency.
I cant think of one mouse that has actually good glides as their standard. And I just hope that, the superlight 2 doesnt have the bug where the mousewheel becomes practically unusable.
The fact they couldn't be bothered to put the number 2 at the end of the superlight writing on the side says it all :'D
Ikr 😂
what wud be the purpose of it except for showing off?
Logitech should've updated the G305 as there are plenty of changes that need to be made there and it's considered entry level which in this economy more people need than top end mice.
I come from the future with some bad news.
@@vinicius401 I already tried the low effort mouse known as G309 and it's just more Logitech not listening to their customers.
@@NightMotorcyclist I was so hyped for that. Somehow they managed to get everything wrong. But at least it would be cheap, right? No, premium price.
@@vinicius401 I gave the mouse a chance in the 20 days that I've owned it and while it felt okay, it definitely did not feel like a 70 dollar mouse and the clicks felt tactile but hollow (i prefer Huano Blue shell pink dots now) like all optical switches and the skates were far from smooth compared to the stock feet that came with my Viper V2, Orochi v2 and G305 with Hyperglides.
Shows how out of touch mouse companies are nowadays. People who buy top tier mice for gaming don't care much about battery life. I think this would be a top mouse if it had a smaller battery and a bit more weight removed. Also be nice to have better switches and feet though. 👍
Agreed..
That's true for some people but for others, they will welcome this minor change. It should have been listed as a GPX lightforce to emphasize the different switches
just buy the x2h. it's everything i want it to be.
@@glashausAimz2 I wanted to like it, but my hand cramped way more than I like while using the x2H
Disagree. 60 grams is light enough. I very much value battery life. I have a gpx superlight, lamzu atlantis og v2 pro 4k, razer deathadder v3 and the mouse i keep going back to is the auperlight. I'm going to do a video on it soon.
Hey, loved the video. Can you help me please with some info?
I got a Superlight 1 and wishing to get the 2nd, and I am fully ready to do that. I have a ton of mouse feet, skates for the Superlight 1 that I haven't tested and plan to use in the future.
My question is, are those skates compatible with the Logitech Superlight 2? As I see the newer one has a straight angle on the lower/puck size while the original version is rounded.
Are there any difference in the skate size that will make them incompatible?
Cause to get complete new skates and toss the old ones in the garbage for just a design and different sake seems very scummy.
If I am exaggerating and the original skates are completely compatible with the newer version then that's super good.
Thank you!
they are not compatible, unfortunately bro
i wonder how it would weigh if the power pluck and power play magnets were removed without any additional cutouts
there about 2/3 games in saving
@Luke_4044 you listen to zutomayo??
@@okamery yes
From a design perspective, they could probably curved the sides a little more and remove the dongle storage. Removing the dongle storage could save roughly 3-5 grams. On top of that, they could save money from the magnets and extra pucks. I hardly know anyone who plays with powerplay mat anymore, and they changed the charging method to USB-C which allows for fast charging. Why do they continue designing their equipment within that ecosystem is beyond me.
Nothing about the GPX2 warrants an upgrade from those who have the GPX, not even after indepth polling/click and motion latency test. LOD adjustments are so common nowadays that it's not worth talking about. Click method type options are gimmicks.
Logitech really treating their users like morons.
“Logitech really treating their user likes morons.” More like oMORONS haha get it…no that was bad lol
Its because Logitech’s lead designers are all old dinosaurs, they think they are hot shit because they have so much experience as the #1 peripheral manufacturer, that they are designing their products in an ecochamber, they don’t even know what other mouse makers are doing.
Logitech’s design principles have always revolved around long battery life and a false build quality. You can see this way back in mice Logitech produced like 20 years ago. They used to put brass weights inside of their mice to make them feel heavy. This is because old people from that generation got burned by a lot of lightweight cheap chinese made products that broke. Eventually Logitech realized that using metal to add weight was pointless when they could just over engineer the inner skeleton of the mouse to add weight through excess plastic. Its honestly a miracle that anyone on their dev team lowered the weight on the first GPX but realistically, these mice were recycling old gpro molds by getting rid of the rightside sidebuttons.
Logitech helped develop the sensor with pixart, but after their collab Logitech started producing their sensors inhouse and stopped working with pixart, and their sensor improvements have been only focused on maintaining a long battery life. They have not put in any improvements to the accuracy of the sensor. Them going to 2khz is not a shock to me since they care so much about battery life. I do agree with that decision though. I’d rather see more mice with 2khz polling especially for wireless mice because too many dumb customers blame the mouse for their games/computer not being able to run smoothly when using 4khz or 8khz polling. I’d rather people just have a smooth experience with 2khz instead eventhough I do like my 4khz and 8khz mice.
I don’t expect Logitech to remain the top dog now that sensor tech is capping out. Even by Razer’s own admission their newest sensor is like 99.8% accurate, they’ve got like one more pixart sensor to go until there is basically nothing else they can improve on other than battery life, and the performance difference between the last 3 or 4 pixart sensors really aren’t that much of an improvement, the main difference has been seen in Razer mice in particular who have been dramatically lowered click and motion latency with better microchips and pcb/firmware design.
The future for mice will be all about shape, customization, and weight. All things that Logitech has a hard time adapting to since they are dinosaurs. Also, their keyboards are getting left in the dust as well ever since Wooting came onto the scene.
Realistically Logitech probably won’t die but they will probably stop focusing on their gaming peripherals and just sell office gear since that is where most of their money comes from. However this refocus will end up killing the company since most office workers play games and a lot of them work from home now, so all of those customers will want gear that is good for both working and gaming.
Razer will probably be fine because they actually listen to the community every now and then, plus they have always been heavily focused on gaming. Zowie might survive if they ever pull their heads out of their asses, simply because their huge array of shapes and sizes are why they have so many fans. Their business isn’t built on tech.
However Logitech will be leaving space for a new peripheral king. I wonder who it will be, there are a lot of promising candidates positioned well to take over.
I don't have either, should I for Superlight 1 or Superlight 2?
That '3M' grips look like the cheap counterfeit. Also also, the new puck looks like they saved 0.01$ on its cost of production. And replacing the lower -pads- skates was pure genius! You go Logitech!
You know 3M is a multi billion dollar company, right...
@@kikkukun yeah, overrated and the amount of fake 3M products on the market is unbelievable.
The grips are pretty disappointing, i applied them and am tempted to remove them only 2 days later. Lost a considerable amount of its grip in that time. That’s fine though, I was planning on purchasing aftermarket ones anyway.
Hello, can I find out if the problem with the wheel has been solved on this version??? Or is the wheel still not reliable??? I want to buy this mouse, but everyone keeps talking about double clicks and a very bad wheel that goes out of work very quickly
which of it has the angle snapping settings?
I've used my superlight for 2 years and its still perfect, perfect enough to make me bored tbh. Im super excited to get the Razer viper mini SE
Hope you enjoy the SE it’s going to be a change
instead of updating the g305 or g703 we get this. wow.
updated 305 would have been nice
hey brother, Can you compare the latency between the Superlight 2 and Ultralight X ?
Sure when it ULX comes in.
Looking forward to this video to compare superlight 2 vs ULX.. if you could include Pwnage Stormbreaker in that testing as well that would be amazing, the storm breaker has the lowest latency wired or wirelss via rtings at 2.0 ms.. superlight 2 was at 2.1 wired and 2.5 wireless i believe@@Beardedbob
Would the superlight 1 base be compatible to the superlight 2? Asking because there were mods for the first one and I was wondering if I could just get a weight reduction base that fitted on the first one and just added it to the 2nd one.
So is it worth it for a cs2 player? port doesnt matter because ill get a charging dock for it anyways.
Think 2k polling is worth?
Imo no if you are happy with the mouse you have. If you need to change it then 2k won’t hurt you but expect a drop in fps as it requires more cpu to compute
@@Beardedbob ive got a g305 i wanted to upgrade so wasnt sure which to pick. prob will just go with the og. its on sale for 110 rn too
got the superlight 1 at 70 on sale 2 weeks ago :) Upgrade from the G900 . Amazing mouse
@@hurpaderpp
should i buy superlight pro ? since superlight 2 is super expensive and superlight 1 is also expensive but affordable for me but the double click problem for logitech is a nightmare for me since i am using ghero 502 but the doubleclick is broken for mine ...
You wont regret the purchase if you're into games like that.
Just get a hot swap pcb with whatever button switch you want for your superlight...and the double click problem would be a non-issue. Or claim the warranty of your superlight within 2 years, which will almost always create the double-clicking issue within that time period. At least based on my own experience with 5 different logitech gaming mice, all double-clicking eventually.
does the omron d2fp-fn2 work for the GPX 2
yes
@@Beardedbob thanks
so...should i go for gpx superlight 1 or 2 :(
2, it has all the features of 1 and a bit more. 2 is only questionable as an upgrade.
on a side note, I have 1 and will move it to my work and buy 2 to replace it at home for gaming.
@@lostpacket thank you so much, i'm ready for the 2
v2 is obviously better bcs of 2khz
@@johannesgreen6142 I'd say its personal preference, the small amount extra of battery life, ect, just doesn't seem worth it? in my country v1 vs v2 is double the price, $150 for vs $300 for v2, quite insane, plus v1 has more customisation out atm, more stakes, grips, ect
@@rahorin haha ty so much but I've already bought the v2 and really enjoy it
which one should i get
which one did u get? because i dont know which one to choose
What I find utterly disgusting from Logitech is that they removed the smooth glossy finish on the bottom sides of the mouse. This finish was there to prevent friction when lifting off the mouse and moving it elsewhere on the mousepad. They removed it and replaced it with the same finish the bottom of the mouse has. The only reason they removed it is to save money from the process of making it smooth. Unacceptable for a 175 euro mouse.
I will look into getting a refund.
Is gen 2 better ?
Ofc it’s better but I don’t know if it’s worth it or not in my country it’s 100$ more expensive
@@hdkokohd3012 I've heard from most reviewers it's actually worse due to the clicks being much heavier on the gpx2 and the new skate size feels much worse
Are the scrollwheels the same?
Yes
Is the coating the same as the og GPX?, it looks a bit slippier
Same it seems
theres a typo in the title
Well spotted u win first prize 🏆
I wonder if those 6 pin switches are interchangable with Omron 5 Pin switches the ones Sora 4K has
I don’t see it as the pcbs are very specific atm 😭😭..but you never know
Is the hybrid optical switch only on left/right click or also on side buttons and scroll wheel?
Just left and right, the sides are the same as the v1
My superlight 2 causes bad stuttering in valorant while on 2k
You gotta turn on a setting in Valorant. I don’t really play Val but it’s something like raw mouse input (beta). You gotta do this in overwatch 2 as well
Mine came with a bad sensor....stuttering no matter what. Might be a firmware thing. Or qc.
put the mouse close to the receptor logitech
I just bought the Superlight 1 for $80 on Best Buy. on a youtube binge watch lol
The Superlight 2 wasn't just for owners of the first one to upgrade.. You understand that right? I just got it to replace my g502 plus x which i dont really like.. USB-C is great, 2000hz is so smooth the shape is good the mouse wheel is much better than the g502 plus x and its so light. Love it
it seems most people preffer the old swiches in the first version. 2000hz is great and all, but it seems the new hero 2 sensor has SRAV issues, that means it's not moving the same distance at different speeds. If i where to get a superlight id go for the 1st version.
@@MissMan666 good to know that. its on sale. but i bet they fix the 2nd gens with updates anyways
Why change a good product?
It has some good points and some bad points they just don’t fix the bad
poor comparison, I dunno what I am looking at. you could mark it
They did like apple change the port to 10 years old usb c and call it new!
Sure did, I think Apple did more
dude just got done eating some oranges or somethin' xD
Sure did, ensure you eat fruits 🍎
if you get the pink one its better
Pink gives an extra 300 fps bonus
I barely understand what you are saying, what accent is that?
English Manchester
finally using usb C huh?
Would see so..usb-c is a bit over hyped tbh
@@Beardedbob yeah I would rather use Energy Fort a Logitech and Razer Dock for charging so its not even a big deal but still for a price like that if it's not usb C wtf they were thinking right? yeah im talking about superlight 1.
Gpx vs pulsar comparison video pls
Which pulsar? X2 or x2 v2
@@Beardedbobnvm i change back to my gpx because pulsar feel cheap
ok gladly i got v1 for 65€
Bargain
Switches feel horrible on 2
Opto mech for you
ikr
Looks the same
Waste of money
if you already have an SL1 sure
Not worth the upgrade. Nice video Bob.@@Beardedbob
Very disappointing^^ gpro superheavy now - twice the weight i prefer.
Falling behind
@@Beardedbob they needed a
@@MikeGrau0hr🤡
@@MikeGrau0hr Imho anyone who can play a mouse that's below 50g is superhuman haha
@@dudus9287 lighter mouse makes everything easier.
simple word
if you do not have gpx
then gpx 2 is worth it
if you have gpx 1
hold on not to much different