Cosmic Alpha 4! | VRR IS HERE!

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  • @mirkodiciano4647
    @mirkodiciano4647 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    im itching to daily drive this desktop environment, nicely done mate

    • @ctpaxru7067
      @ctpaxru7067 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I'm now daily driving it on Fedora. The experience is not completely smooth (not so many bugs but rather features missing or configurable only via config files) but still more pleasant for me than on KDE. A DE focused on tiling is something I've always waited for since I switched to Linux.

    • @Sqwert-g6h
      @Sqwert-g6h 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ctpaxru7067 I'm using it on Fedora, and it's mostly smooth. I know some work needs to be done around gtk theming, specifically for web browsers and flatpaks. Only other main issue I found is that cosmic-greeter does not unlock the gnome-keyring.

  • @marlonese
    @marlonese 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Can´t wait to daily drive Cosmic once it's got a beta or stable release

    • @trajectoryunown
      @trajectoryunown 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Beta's gonna be lit.
      I'd be test driving Cosmic right now if it was a little more stable.

  • @onelikeandidie
    @onelikeandidie 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Waiting for the linux grandma to cover this

  • @Nullarino
    @Nullarino 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Sloths have been known to grab their own arm, mistaking it for a branch, which causes them to fall out of the tree and sometimes kills them.

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      they be a bit dumb but that sucks :(

    • @Nullarino
      @Nullarino 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@linuxnext true

  • @cybernit3
    @cybernit3 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It would be interesting if you ran some game benchmarks with COSMIC vs GNOME vs KDE PLASMA. I am curious about the Wayland compositor performance. I assume the COSMIC compositor is written in RUST, so right there that will have overhead and will hurt performance. COSMIC though could get popular with the US Government since it has some memory safety using RUST; but the Linux kernel is in C; one problem unless they convert the Linux kernel into RUST.

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      On newer hardware I doubt I would see performance being hurt, it would super negligible, on older hardware tho yeah there might be performance issues a little
      ill look into it tho

  • @happygofishing
    @happygofishing 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    at this rate i will be using cosmic by the time i build my new PC in February.

  • @Void_Dragon
    @Void_Dragon 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I made a neat observation: I used a USB 2.0 (a tiny 4gb one with around 5mb/s read/write speed) for the Alpha 4 LiveUSB and it was surprisingly snappy with Firefox being the only exception. It made gnome feel completely unoptimized in comparison.
    I cant wait for the stable release.

  • @notuxnobux
    @notuxnobux 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I also have issues with the xdg desktop portal. It's only capturing at 28 fps, no matter what fps you choose or which screen recorder you use. It's not a performance issue as cpu usage and gpu usage is at close to 0%. I reported it a few months ago, hopefully they fix it if they can reproduce it. It seems like it doesn't happen to everybody (im on AMD).

  • @cptfarzkizz8823
    @cptfarzkizz8823 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are braver than me sir. I have no tolerance for have baked distros anymore, I salute you sir for putting up with the headaches to bring us the news on linux.

  • @seventhblessing.7371
    @seventhblessing.7371 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Can someone eli5 why many people are so excited about a new desktop environment? (I am new to Linux been using KDE) is it just because its a new DE and there hasn't been a new one in a while so your all just excited to check it out?

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @seventhblessing.7371 that's one reason, people get bored and want to try something new, the other one is users have been looking for something that looks like gnome but offers the features that KDE brings to the table and doesn't take many years to bring new or required features like what gnome does sometimes, system76 has shown they can do what KDE is doing with their desktop environment + a great tiling manager, if you want to use tiling managers you usually need to set it up manually while on cosmic it's already setup for you and their is a floating window mode for users who don't want to use it
      It also mixes well with gtk/gnome applications as the majority of Flatpak applications are based in gtk
      It's also rust based which is something people want to use because of many reasons like memory safety etc which means also newer technology like Vulkan being used everywhere on the desktop so better and smoother performance on newer hardware
      Also a Wayland first desktop environment so they are focusing fully on improving Wayland instead of x11
      The main developers are getting paid also which is around 7 or so people last time I was watching a podcast of the CEO of system76 talk about their work on cosmic
      So when it comes to new features or improvements these have been pretty good as it's their job to improve it
      And it also means they have to make their desktop work properly on their system76 laptops & computers so when it comes to stability and reliability it's going to be great
      You also get the customisation of KDE plasma but with a gnome look and you can change it to look like KDE plasma also, Iv been running this plasma look on my laptop for a couple of months now and it's great

    • @perkulant4629
      @perkulant4629 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No idea it’s basically like a skinned gnome imo.

    • @seventhblessing.7371
      @seventhblessing.7371 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@linuxnext Thank you for the explanation; I understand now. Over the past few months, I’ve learned enough to grasp your points. I’ve heard Wayland is newer and more secure, and it’s reassuring to see a project with full-time developers, unlike many open-source projects that rely on spare-time contributions. I’m excited to see Cosmic as it becomes more polished. While I’ve enjoyed KDE’s customization, I also appreciate GNOME’s aesthetics, so this has my attention. You’ve gained a subscriber!

    • @MuseHijinks
      @MuseHijinks 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Laymen's terms since you've already gotten the technical explanation. It's GNOME without bullshit and extra features.

  • @Eddieddg1
    @Eddieddg1 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I will wait to see if it drops gnome for it's own path before I consider it seriously.

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes I don't think cosmic alpha would replace pop os gnome just yet lol

  • @jzetterman
    @jzetterman 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My understanding is that Wayland doesn't actually support setting a primary or main display, so I'm not sure what the answer is for that. I agree though, it really should be something we can do, especially for games.

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jzetterman yeah I think the one on KDE plasma is for xwayland games to spawn on the main monitor but even then It has issues of its own
      Edit: KDE uses kwin rules to tell where applications should launch on what monitor and xrandr which cosmic uses should be able to tell where xwayland games should launch on which monitor
      Here is KDEs merge for their primary monitor implementation on wayland
      invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_requests/1150
      invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/merge_requests/1563
      invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/merge_requests/1630

    • @wikwayer
      @wikwayer 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The fact that they didn't think of such trivial future is wild 😂

  • @eduardoscorpio
    @eduardoscorpio 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cosmic has VRR in alpha and will be ready for release and gnome still has that not implemented besides using experimental settings ,despite having much more support community wise and could thad that implemented years ago

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep it's why I'm excited for cosmic, the developers are being paid also to work on cosmic so they can rlly make this a great desktop environment

  • @MichaelWilliams-lr4mb
    @MichaelWilliams-lr4mb 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It sounds like that voice is being produced by espeak.

  • @everlastingmedia
    @everlastingmedia 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Seriously hope they also improve exfat filesystem perms for linux so gamers who use Steam (basically all PC gamers) can just, run it and go instead of having to do a bunch of bind mounts to add a SteamLibrary location that actually works.

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exfat is used for gaming on windows? NTFS is what most gamers use and on Linux you use ext4 for playing games through proton

    • @everlastingmedia
      @everlastingmedia 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@linuxnext Buy and large exfat is recommended because of the perf gains and compatibility with Linux and Windows. And while Linux can use NFTS as storage, exfat still seems to be widely recommended by the internet at large.
      I admit I'm new to dual booting.
      That being said, I'm gaming with my SteamLibrary using an exfat partition on Linux and it works great, after I did some bind mounts to bypass permissions limitations exfat has with Linux.
      I don't do anything on Windows I don't have to. I only have a handful of apps that work on Windows I can't get running on Linux (yet). I keep the partition for when I absolutely just need an app to work.
      ext4 is great for Linux but Windows needs some extra sorcery I don't know to read it.
      And Linux can read NFTS but there are other issues I run into with it on Linux I'm not even qualified to explain. Performance and permissions.
      exfat buy and large has just worked better for me. But do whatever gets the job done for you.

  • @lefteris.p
    @lefteris.p 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My number one feature I want is gnome's hot corner.

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@lefteris.p yeah I bet they will add that at some point
      You can check here for future features they are working on
      github.com/orgs/pop-os/projects/23/views/1
      github.com/orgs/pop-os/projects/27/views/1

  • @wikwayer
    @wikwayer 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    LOL the robotic voice is worst than Microsoft sam

  • @techzone2009
    @techzone2009 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I just switched to cosmic 😂. I am trying it. If everything goes according to plan, then i will delete Gnome 😂

    • @techzone2009
      @techzone2009 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I deleted Gnome 😅

  • @adnanalam6201
    @adnanalam6201 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm waiting for more applets to do be added to cosmic

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What applets would you like to see?
      Here is the current list of community applets and I saw system76 Devs are implementing an applet category in the cosmic store soon :)
      github.com/edfloreshz/cosmic-project-collection

    • @adnanalam6201
      @adnanalam6201 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @linuxnext yeah I've seen these, these are a bit basic, i tried the clip board one, didn't like it too much.

  • @hv-1944
    @hv-1944 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As someone who didn’t want to install a tiling window manager and go through all the crap of configuring it
    Tiling is amazing.
    I almost always use it now and it’s so much more efficient.

    • @Just_Add_Coffee
      @Just_Add_Coffee 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A tiling window manager and Super+h,j,k,l have made my life better!

  • @tda0626
    @tda0626 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does it have HDR and VRR support now?

    • @cybernit3
      @cybernit3 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In the video he shows VRR works, but I don't think HDR is supported yet.

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Only vrr right now, if you watch the video HDR isn't coming till after epoch 1 which is I think around stable release

  • @cabek3453
    @cabek3453 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im getting close too 😫

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ayo 💀

  • @LinuxIsForAll
    @LinuxIsForAll 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This desktop has the potential to become the "ultimate" desktop envirorment for Linux, and I think it will

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @LinuxIsForAll I agree, it will be up with the big dogs/KDE, gnome soon :)

    • @cybernit3
      @cybernit3 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Ya, I wonder about it, looks like Gnome quite a bit. Gnome is having internal and finance problems; so maybe in a few years it might take over Gnome. Right now, I am some what happy with KDE Plasma for my needs.

    • @LinuxIsForAll
      @LinuxIsForAll 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ I think this DE can be the best of both worlds, the look of gnome + the functionality of kde plasma + it's own thing on top

    • @cybernit3
      @cybernit3 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @LinuxIsForAll I guess it will fill some niche out there.

  • @Mindroix
    @Mindroix 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You really remind me of LOLYOU

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🤔🤔

  • @5mrd
    @5mrd 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i dont like 2 panel layout

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ok and you can make one if you like, my laptop has one panel in cosmic

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      here is a screenshot of my cosmic desktop right now
      imgur.com/a/iPKxld4

  • @n.m4497
    @n.m4497 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Too bad cosmic arrives at a time where most Linux features are implemented or close to being finished. Their arrival brought little help to Linux.

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Their Wayland compositor has been around for atleast a year or 2 now and Victoria the main developer of that compositor (smithay) has worked a ton with Wayland developers to make decisions on what gets implemented with things like protocols, these developers don't sit in their own corner, every developer from different desktops like KDE, gnome, cosmic, cinnamon and tiling managers also all discuss for what and how things with Wayland should go
      So I don't think cosmics arrival brings little help