Fall of the Samurai
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Seeing that cavalry unit just melt in a single volley was absolutely beautiful
You can just hear Turin yell: "Last Samurai charge OOOOO!" 😂
Health bars combat will never be as good and sayisfying than this system.
reminds of the millenium mod or whatever the name is for wh3, easily one of the most fun campaigns I had with total war.
One thing I liked about FOTS is that the guns are so merciless. Enemies can be wiped in under 30 seconds that's how quickly they kill.
How guns work in real life. Especially before bullet protective armor
Date bullet proof armor won't protect you from them.
They should do a US Civil War version based on FOTS.
Well, there's a reason melee combat is no longer a thing. Guns are extremely deadly and care little about traditional armor...
@@EvoraGT430 they should, but I think the AI units would keep walking over each other trying to reform mid battle like they do in Napoleon TW
When the best Saga game wasn't even made to be a Saga game in the first place.
It was expansion. But resale as sage crap.
i think you mean sega
@@pyaehtetaungexpansion but sold as standalone. It followed in napoleon total wars footsteps
@@wile123456 no. Original it was few dollars dlc.
@@wile123456 I purchased shogun 2 gold edition key. It include fots as dlc without blood dlc.
The thing I liked about this is how you spent most of the time setting up the battle and then it played out exactly how you predicted over the course of 2 minutes.
That makes shogun so much more satisfying than the warhammer games.
@@ollis1270i can't hear You *Gets hited by flaming skulls *
The cloud of smoke covering your units after a few rounds of shots is an awsome effect i don't think is present in many gunpowder total wars
You should look at NTW3 mod the have amazing smoke
That's previous TW for you.. the arrows, the guns.. that was something else.
@@morgankingaming432 Is there reload animation for guns and line of sight matter?
If not what different than bow?
@@pyaehtetaung it’s a mod for napoleon total war, they have reload animations and will shoot into the backs of their own men if not positioned correctly.
IIRC its also present in Empire and Napoleon as well, besides we only got 3 gunpowder era Total War games so its not a lot to begin with
FOTS was amazing, glad to see a battle like this
I am playing FOTS now also between WH3 campaigns and ATTILA.
Gun units are so satisfying in this game, better than in WH3 the smoke, sounds and sheer power behind the cannons. Naval Warfare are great and bombardment mechanics
It would be much better if it wasnt waisted on japan
@@user-mc8ow8me9oOr even wasted.
Guns also work well with the fast paced battles of Shogun 2, they're allowed to be merciless and devastating because the combat is so punishing in general.
FotS is too boring just spam infantry and 2-3 armstorng guns each army.
All battles plays the same all game.
I absolutely love Fall of the Samurai. A Victorian era Total War with FOTS mechanics is the dream.
This was actually gonna be the base for a WW1 / Victorian/civil war ear game apparently a while back , but got put aside after Warhammer and three kingdoms and the Rome 2 fail at launch
@@kidmanwalters4236where did you get that info from? This is the first time i've heard of it
Would literally be my dream game
FoTS *is* set during the Victorian era. It's the late 1860s/early 1870s
@@pyroparagon8945 I know that, I'm talking about a Victorian era version of Empire.
"We could have taken on an army twice this size."
"..."
"Maybe."
Words I never thought I'd hear LoTW say.
battles in FOTS can end so fast that legend may not even have time to micro and save his army in some cases
@@adambrandethis wasn't on legendary he could have just paused
@@ThePiotrekpecet meh meh meh meh meh. that's what you sound like.
@@cutezachie literally you tho lol
That was exactly it: overlapping field of fire - two units shoot the same sector. Crossfire is when you shoot from two different positions.
Crossfire seems to just be slang for overlapping fire, which involves two or more defensive positions set up in such a way as to cover the same area. And the term doesn’t feel right for this video, since each unit was holding effectively the same defensive position. It felt more like an advanced line formation, with each unit taking the roll of an individual row of infantry.
@@1ManRandom Buddy you forget that military terms must work along both in attack and defense. More precisely there also shald be no difference if it;s infantry, artillery or mechanized forces.
Overlapping field of fire is by definition a wider term than crossfire, because crossfire is an equivalent of flanking but without an advance into enemy position.
(I would gladly draw you a diagram to resolve that misunderstanding, but i know no way to put it in YT comment section :D)
@@Kijekin477 Alright… I still don’t think it’s the right word for what Legend does in this.
Defence in depth is also a term applicable to this setup.
@@warhound45 That's what I would ahve called this setup, defence in depth. Or maybe layered defence- it doesn't quite feel "deep" enough to be called "in depth" if you know what I mean.
FoTS was peak gun warfare for Total War and had me incredibly excited for an Empire two year back. Before I realized CA had no intention of making an Empire two.
I still play FoTS today, even have an active independent campaign going now.
instead CA gives us shit like total war pharaoh and britannia that no one wants
That battle, despite not being particularly challenging, was a treat to watch. Keep it up, mate!
that was devastating! what an awesome battle to watch
These videos about "non-disaster battles" are a great way to show the skill curve for TW is exponential. Someone was having a hard time with that battle, and you said you can handle a force twice the size with the same force. Maybe more of these "non-disasters" to teach those underskilled.
Shogun 2 is the peak of total war games in my opinion, even if medieval 2 is my favourite. And FoTS guns are amazing
The base shogun 2 had good atmosphere, but the gameplay was really barebone.... Which actualy helped a lot with the primitive AI. FoTS is a much better game in almost every regard, but the AI cant really handle the gunpowder warfare well.
@@DebilinsideShogun 2 is quality over quantity
@@Debilinside Basically in every gunpowder Total war, AI cant handle player fighting with longer range units, so to win every FotS battle you need 150 range units doomstack, they are deadly against 100 range line infantry that Ai spams mostly.
@@Debilinside I would like to point out that I don't view FoTS as a separate game, since it was an expansion (DLC) on launch and I'm kind of an old-timer. As far as gameplay goes, I think battles even in vanilla are some of the most dynamic and tactically intense fun in total war games with such distinct unit roles and the large number of factors for each engagament. The morale system is so clutch for enjoyment as well, possibly turning dire situations into heroic comebacks.
The mod selection is mostly the reason I play base game instead of FoTS though, so I might have a slightly skewed sense of the two. Gotta appreciate the gunplay in FoTS regardless, everything feels impactful from visuals to sound design to gameplay functionality. Satisfying.
@@marcin7054 150 range? Armstrong guns wanna say hello. Once you get them produced, you have won the campaign.
FOTS is so amazing with how it allows for so much tactical variety with both traditional and modern units and combining them into one force. And seeing the wall of lead and smoke with each volley was beautiful. Just an incredible example of simple formations leading to devastating results.
This game is proof we need a dedicated pike & shot era TW style game
The UI mixed with the Gun mechanics in this game are just amazing, it’s crazy to think we got this over 10 years ago. I think I have more time on this game than R2 Attila and WH combined
It's just CA's terrible leadership decided to retroactively rebrand this game as a SAGA game instead of an expansion, further providing proof that saga games are just overpriced DLC
@@wile123456Tbh this more like an expansion than DLC
I absolutely LOVE Fall of The Samurai, one little tip: your general has this ability called Ganbatte (the icon with the face on it) that improves rate of fire and accuracy too i think. It's just a small thing that makes your units if even a tiny bit better
I remember winning an 8v1 in campaign with this tactic, atop a giant ridge mid-map. Several enemy generals and a sea of yari ashigaru simply evaporated too fast to rout
God, that would have been so good to send in. Didn't know the channel back then
Damn, gotta replay that game
It really is so good.
I'm replaying them all in order and have finished Rise of the Samurai then doing both a Buddhist and Christian campaign for Shogun 2 and then doing a Shogunate and Imperial playthrough for FoTS.
There's a reason guns are so good in this compared to other TW representations- the accurate representation of technology.
In Napoleonic warfare, smoothbore muskets(Meaning the inside of the barrel was smooth) were used with a spherical ball projectile. This curbed accuracy severely past 100 yards, and even before that it was shoddy. The flight was not stable and the pressure seal behind the ball when the gun fired was unregulated. Around 1830 Claudi Minie put together a bullet that was a cone that had a hollow base and grooves on the outside for grease. This allowed them to use rifling which is a pattern of spirals inside the gun barrel meant to make the bullet spin. Because it expanded it could grip the rifling better, seal in the gas behind it and be loaded faster- previously the projectiles to grip the rifling had to be very close to the barrel size itself, requiring a mallet to pound the ball down the chamber. Now it could be easily pushed down with a stick. The greased grooves helped keep the barrel moving in good order as well.
This new conical projectile, significantly higher pressure pushing the round and stabilized flight extended the range and accuracy tremendously, with rifles instead of muskets. In the US civil war using the same tech level as Samurai an Ohio(I believe) regiment of sharpshooters had trials where applicants were required to regularly hit small targets at 800 yards to get in to the regiment. By the time of Fall of the Samurai guns had improved even further with the traditional "cartridge" we know today with a brass casing and primer in the bottom, or bullets as most people call them, had become largely standard. The Civil War era guns were converted into "Trapdoor" models that allowed a cartridge to be loaded by hand after every shot, significantly speeding it up over a loose powder and ball style. Those Springfield Trapdoor models likely would have equipped most troops at this time, though not for certain.
This is also why the Crimean and US Civil Wars were noted for their carnage. People were being shot where they previously couldnt have and the projectile being soft unjacketed lead would mushroom on impact and often fragment leading to multiple wound channels and odd paths. These were also very large projectiles- .58 caliber, so larger than half an inch. The weight behind the impact was substantial. It was brutal business, and the game reflects that accurately.
So, yeah. If this game has better gun play its because IRL people felt that way too.
I wouldn't say better. More like faster.
Isnt faster a primary component of better? Bigger faster stronger being the simplest way of representing that idea
Wow, its so beatiful to see all those guns melting the enemy troops. The gun smoke effect is very well done too in this game.
reminds me of "Zulu"
FotS is imo the best Total War game. It is after more than 11 years still fantastic looking, its land battles are super fun due the unique mix of units available, and its campaign is good as well.
Legend, on that approach and first few volleys you could've used generals ability "ganbatte"
It buffs accuracy and reload speed and it's an area buff with a stupid amount of range. In that position you probably would've reached all of the line infantry and made that victory even more crushing to the enemy! Love seeing all of the historical content lately, it's a blast to watch! I'm in the middle of a FOTS campaign right now, so perhaps I'll be sending a save file myself, should I get into trouble ^^
Ah yes my favorite game, Total War: SHAMEFUR DESPRAY with the expansion MY LAWD VICTURRY SHALL BE YURS
FOTS already have the mechanism needed for a Victoria total war era. Tweak with tank and dragon mech from warhammer then you'll get a WW1 total war.
Somebody is basically creating a victoria total war mod for Shogun II. It is called Total Fall of the samurai, and he is making Carlist Wars campaigns for it now as well. You ought to check it out.
Total War's great AI would fit right in with the trench war in the western front
I might actually buy a partial reskin with that ancient game engine if the price wasn’t outrageous. FOTS is really enjoyable.
Nah, they lost the wave. Should have released one between or after Anno 1800 and Victoria 3;)
Besides CA hates making profits.
I'd like to dub this tactic "Multi-Level Marksmanship"
living the herbalife [gangsign]
(referencing multilevel marketing/MLM here)
I love the variety of Total war you are covering. It is just simply amazing to see Shogun 2, Rome, Rome 2, Attila. You are the Total War GOAT!
I LOVE the smoke effects. Best smoke effects in any total war, the way it builds up into massive smoke clouds really contributes a lot to the feeling of "this is a real battle".
More please, never got to really understand shogun 2 and fall of the samurai, but I really enjoy this time period, and I've learnt how to properly play other total games by watching you
Thank you for reminding me why I love Fall of the Samurai
so happy to see you play these legendary old games, this and attila are probably my all time favorite total war titles
Fall of the Samurai was a damn interesting game because you had guns coexisting with traditional units in such a way that both had their strengths if utilized effectively. Guns NEED clear lines of sight to fire so even minor gradations in the terrain that most other units would ignore become super important considerations, to the point that missing a dip in elevation or a hillock can make your gun-line totally useless. At the same time, with clear firing lines guns will butcher any other unit. It creates this really interesting tactical space to explore that very few other Total Wars have managed to touch.
So it begins...
I like watching your older videos and then I see this lol makes me chuckle.
One of the cooler battles to watch to be honest. Even if it was not that hard, nice video!
I really like all the videos from all the different older TW games. I'm glad you're spicing it up.
This battle was so elegant ! The overlapping shots were amazing to watch
FOTS is my absolute favorite Total War! So this was an absolute treat to watch. There's just something so fascinating about a game where you utilize both traditional and modern units at the same time. Aizu are my favorite clan for that exact reason.
Those samurai fell all right, goddamn.
Teaching sword wielding fools the power of gunpowder! Also would love to see some naval battles!
As someone who binged a Completely Devin story series in fall of the Samurai as Teppou republic. Loved it, would love to see more :)
You going back to the older games has had be binging shogun two and founding a love for a game that tbh I had forgot until now thank you!
I never played FOTS but I picked it up after watching your videos of the past months. Really enjoying it; reminded me of what total war once was.
9:39 THOSE are the moments I play FOTS for. beautiful !!!
Also because I watched 55 days in Peking as a kid and a FOTS siege defense just tickles that itch.
By far the best total war of all time! Still holds up today.
Hope some naval battles of FOTS will get sent too, especially with coastal fortresses - one of the best experience in Total Wars up to this day. Artillery was overall great in this game and gunpowder never been as much enjoyable as in this one.
Been playing since Rome I, and FOTS is my favorite historical title when it comes to the vanilla game (let's not forget that Rome I and especially Medieval II had amazing mods).
The original RTW was where the mod scene picked up for TW games. Big stuff like Rome Total Realism and Europa Barbarorum were the O.G. big mods for TW.
I remember when I first learned about using hills to overlap firing arcs in Napoleon. All of a sudden things became so much easier and more bloody.
The overlapping fields of fire is my main go to strategy in every ETW and FOTS campaign, as well as NTW, It's justs so satisfying seeing your lines of Nizam Cedit, British line, French and Japanese ranged units just absolutely devastate an enemy, most times far superior in number/strength by careful positioning, I love finishing it with a battery of howitzers/artillery right at the top of hills or inclines and a couple of elite melee units to chase em down, nothing beats FOTS gunplay though, so satisfying.
P.S interlocking is when you're firing on one position and crossing "fire". You are right with overlapping as the term.
I’ve missed FOTS so much, thanks so much for this video! Music, graphics, the battles, the campaign…all of it was perfect. Easily the best DLC in the franchise’s history imo.
I would love to see more of this; wouldn't even mind a FotS livestream😁
Thanks Legend for giving FOTS some love. It got me playing it again and it's a blast, as it really does gun battles way better than ETW/NTW. Hoping there's a chance you do some campaign livestreams of FOTS to see how you approach that, but just happy you gave it some love even if this isn't a disaster battle.
Loved FOTS, I had my favourite battle in a Total War game in there when I was sieged by a pretty elite half melee and half ranged army in my fort garrisoned by an entirely gun levy army. It was brilliant, by the end the air in the map looked like it was more smoke than air.
Loving the latest content man. Keep doing you.
Been playing a whole load of FotS atm and even watching your old pets plays! What an amazing game!
Yes mate, this game will always rock.
Maybe do a live stream of a campain?
Love your content. Keep em coming man.
that opening volley was a thing of beauty
Fun campaign tip for FOTS enjoyers. Me and a friend once did a campaign were we roleplayed The last samurai movie. The rules are:
1. Only samurai units, melee archers and cav (only 1gunpowder unit allowed and thats wooden cannons)
2. No modern tech
3. No industry, only buildings that would count as feudal
4. No AI cheese
Would recommend to try it, its kinda easy in the beginning but once the AI start fielding elite line infantry the number of samurai required to defeat a modern army goes way up so the endgame is way harder than a normal campaign (thats usually what kills the fun for me, just right clicking to victory). Would say its probably the most fun campaign ive had in any TW game and ive played them all.
Going traditional is fun. The problem is that many people will try Aizu. They might have good bonuses but they have a very hard campaign. The first few turns are difficult. I usually ignore the "target" province to the south and instead attack Sendai. Those guys will defect to the imperial side anyway and backstab you. The worst part for me is when EDO of all clans defect to the imperial side. Like the Shoguns seat of power? So the Shogun joins the emperor against... the Shogun?
I love fall of the samurai, I bought it 10 years ago, can't believe I never played it until this year. BY FAR one of my favorite total war games.
I really enjoy these battles where it is mostly explaining the tactics for the army composition and how best to use it
I live fall of the samurai! Thanks for covering it!
You spent more time fiddling with you gun line than fighting the battle. As usual great content Bro. Keep up the good work
Hell yeah, playing a FOTS Tosa campaign right now, happy to see this!
Perfect, I recently started a FOTS run and went full modern army with Lineinf and canons.
These tips have been helpfull for me too, since I now have to win solo against 90% of the rest of Japan thanks to my friendly AI completely failing at life :D
Fall of the Samurai is an amazing game. Thank you for doing this battle!
Never played FOTS despite owning it. Loved this video though. Definitely going to start a campaign up now! Also, would love to see a stream of FOTS sometime in the future!
Fall of the Samurai is a SAGA game? Im old enough to remember when it was a DLC haha
Really cool, would love to see more of this!
I would love to see more videos from fall of the samurai, especially a stream of this is total war challenge or something like that, so we could see the full glory of gun warfare like in this video :D
This game looks dope. Haven’t had the pleasure of playing. You made this look easy
Omg yes!! Totally want to see more of FOTS!
Seeing FOTS again is so utterly nostalgic, yet the game aged amazingly!
I was hyped for a Victorian TW (like the Zulu mod for NTW) after Fots and, sure, Rome II reveal was amazing but it's a shape that everything that was done in Fots, amazing ironclad naval battles included, wasn't followed up later.
Uaing the Kotetsu for the first time felt amazing
This is a pretty good showcase of how to manage a gun army in a less-than-ideal terrain situation
awesome, i am just playing fall of samurai and in my opinion it is hidden gem and proving point for the fact, that Total war is able to work even in 19th century,
I mean, napleon and empire exist
I have never seen fall of the samurai before, looks super damn cool
Makes me want to go do another campaign of FotS! Glad you got something good to cover from this game. I agree, FotS has the BEST gun warfare in the Total War franchise. Using elevation in a similar way is just so incredibly satisfying in this game.
9:38
Legend: "Line Infantry, do you see that unit of General's Bodyguard?"
Line Infantry: "Yes, sir."
Legend: "I don't want to see it anymore."
I love FOTS guns, the sound, animations and power are crazy beautiful
You could call it enfilading fire. You’re basically destroying the enemy by firing at them while they are in disadvantageous positions (e.g. while they are engaging other units, or in their flanks, or when they are charging you in depth/a coloumn). Alternatively, you could say you’re concentrating firepower.
Enfilade fire is generally when you're firing down the "length" of a units formation, such that you can functional fire upon them all at once.
For example, I hide a machine gunner in a forest at the end of a long road, and there is an enemy section marching down that road towards him in a column formation. If he fires he can essentially target everybody at once.
9:06 "When receiving cavalry ALWAYS
form SQUARE ⬛"
- _Silly Billy , Sharpe's Waterloo._
Nice to see new FOTS battles!
I love FOTS and loved seeing this even though it wasn't that difficult! More!!!
Well, it reminds me of concept of superfiring in naval warship gun placement, for the reason that guns elevated ("superior") above the one in front of them allows two or more gun turrets to fire simultaneously forward, not just in broadsides.
Even if this wasn’t exactly a disaster battle, I love FOTS, so to see LoTW cover it is an absolute treat (especially cus it feels like we’re generally starved for FOTS content these days)
Fall of the samurai is my favourite Total War game. The battles looks so good. Guns and artillery has so much impact and the atmosphere is so good. An Empire 2 with the same guns and artillery is my dream.
When that one unit took 90% casualties from one volley, oh the humanity
Looking it up for fun, overlapping fields of fire is when you defend from at 2 different positions that arcs each other about 30 degrees which intersect. A "defilade" is what you were searching for, where troops are protecting each other from an obstacle like a hill (reverse slope) where they support each other with overhead fire
Oh man I remember my Kihetai rush strat on FoTS. What's great with this game is you can defend your castles with barely any units. You can garrison about 2-3 units of levy infantry and you're pretty much set along with the free garrison of the castles. Add a couple more if you want insurance and just decide which way to expand. No fears of getting a settlement captured because you can even kill/rout half the army before they even reach the walls with 2 gun units 🤣
Duty Calls is one of my favorite songs.
Interlocking fields of fire are when two different firing angles intersect. It's a very deadly situation to be in, as it's hard to get cover from both directions at the same time.
What you have is defense in depth.
I believe defense in depth is at the strategic level, when you can retreat from one line of defense into the next.
That’s called enfilading fire. Defense in depth is really on the operational level - I guess if you wanted to do it in a total war battle, you could put up multiple lines of expendable, to slow the enemy while demolishing them with artillery.
@@fredrikhelland8194enfilade fire would be if the enemy is attacking one of your units that is in front of them while one of your other units shoot at the same enemy from their flank. It's like flanking but is more defensive in nature and can usually be seen in castle sieges
@@adambrande It depends on the direction though. I’d say the enemy is moving forward in a semi-column fashion. He’s also enfilading from the sides when they’re engaged, after beating back the enemy flank attack.
FOTS has the most satisfying gun gameplay hands down. The muskets and cannons act and sound powerful
Absolutely love FOTS. hopefully we see more of these!
Holy god. Those volleys were devastating
Love the content as always ❤
Its really nice to see someone playing fall of the samurai. Its a really great game one of the best of the series for sure, But I still prefer the base game over it in many ways just because I prefer the time period, the base game even in vanilla can kick your butt at times and definately isnt the easiest of total war games and I love the variety of units and the whole realm divide mechanic and the battles are fast paced but not too fast which I really like and the AI is pretty competent and will often make very good to the best moves to counter you. In fall of the samurai the only bad thing for me is if you decide to play a imperial gunpowder clan it can get a bit tedious after a while as its mostly spam line infantry with some artillery and cavalry and thats about it. But I agree with legend that there are more tactical and strategic things you can do, but considering the time period and technology available that makes a lot of sense.
Rather than seeing just disasters I loved seeing a different approach to tactics, just a return to basics in this case "terrain and guns"
Love these shogun videos gorgeous game, got me playing again
Yeah!, love FOTS. One of my favorite games
Personally I love both but FOTS is just all around masterpiece - each faction plays different and all the mechanics come together nicely - I would love more of this, hell a stream of FOTS would be a banger!
This was still a good battle to see because i learned about the over the head shooting.